QUOTE(sereneche @ Jun 30 2007, 04:06 PM) [snapback]4227394[/snapback]
Basically, SC is always paying , it's the problems with the OMT's dealers , SC randomly choose dealers to send payment out and there are 2 kind of dealers, lazy and hardworking. Some of the dealers might be Malaysians Leaders too which was stuck or hanging in the air.
Choosing a dealer is important, if they are hardworking. you will get money and e-points fast.
Why are we the Largest E-Points dealers ?
That is because we have many runners and dealers in our group to serve different countries.
In Jamacia alone we have over USD 2 Million Transactions in 1 Single Month. How do you think we can cope ?
We serve our downlines as a Personal Dealer which we can deal any amount up to USD100,000 per transaction.
Malaysians pls be patient, i am sure SC will unblock MY accounts soon. Just cross your fingers.
cheers Serene... u r enlighting us...for those r starburn..pls read carafully and understand it...
malwen1611
Jun 30 2007, 01:24 AM
QUOTE(sereneche @ Jun 30 2007, 12:06 AM) [snapback]4227394[/snapback]
Basically, SC is always paying , it's the problems with the OMT's dealers , SC randomly choose dealers to send payment out and there are 2 kind of dealers, lazy and hardworking. Some of the dealers might be Malaysians Leaders too which was stuck or hanging in the air.
Choosing a dealer is important, if they are hardworking. you will get money and e-points fast.
Why are we the Largest E-Points dealers ?
That is because we have many runners and dealers in our group to serve different countries.
In Jamacia alone we have over USD 2 Million Transactions in 1 Single Month. How do you think we can cope ?
We serve our downlines as a Personal Dealer which we can deal any amount up to USD100,000 per transaction.
Malaysians pls be patient, i am sure SC will unblock MY accounts soon. Just cross your fingers.
Anything bad happens blame d Msian, can u confirm Swisscash always paying? There r investors in US China Spore Aus who hv their OMT delayed 4 more than 30 days, Swisscash r paying some n not paying some,is this d action of a professional investment company, we r not talking about MY ID anymore. U can still buy n sell epoints because there is still a demand at ur side, n that does not mean Swisscash will b paying in future. CHEERS
Swis$988
Jun 30 2007, 01:34 AM
QUOTE(sereneche @ Jun 30 2007, 04:06 PM) [snapback]4227394[/snapback]
Basically, SC is always paying , it's the problems with the OMT's dealers , SC randomly choose dealers to send payment out and there are 2 kind of dealers, lazy and hardworking. Some of the dealers might be Malaysians Leaders too which was stuck or hanging in the air.
Choosing a dealer is important, if they are hardworking. you will get money and e-points fast.
Why are we the Largest E-Points dealers ?
That is because we have many runners and dealers in our group to serve different countries.
In Jamacia alone we have over USD 2 Million Transactions in 1 Single Month. How do you think we can cope ?
We serve our downlines as a Personal Dealer which we can deal any amount up to USD100,000 per transaction.
"Malaysians pls be patient, i am sure SC will unblock MY accounts soon. Just cross your fingers". Please add me in
Hi Serene, Your above post makes sense to me. I especially like that quote in blue and do pray that it will come true in the near future. Please keep us pity 'blocked' members informed if you have the slightest idea of them progressing with the 'solutions'.
Thanks in advance and may you achieve your mission for SC vision.
Cheers to all!!!
pokerteller
Jun 30 2007, 01:40 AM
QUOTE(malwen1611 @ Jun 30 2007, 01:10 AM) [snapback]4227511[/snapback]
First n 4most I hv said many many times in my other posting we hv help many many MY ID investors transfer epoints thru MOBILE ASSCESS n change them into cash way way earlier than anybody in this CRISIS , now with d intentional blockage of MOBILE ACCESS by Swisscash nobody can help Msian investors so please all d buying n selling of epoints now is just another way of cashing in on this crisis.With all this buying n selling, hv u ever thought 4 a second what would happen 2 all d new or reinvestors if I say if Swisscash does d same 2 SG ID what it did 2 MY ID. CHEERS
Why didnt you have the holy thoughts when your account was still active and were also buying and selling epoints? Bro, just cool down, jumping wont help now. Just cross your finger and pray for the best to happen. Good luck.
Anyway I tried to deal with Serene. Their attitude in yahoo messenger makes me puke. Why do you need to ask if I am from your group? Then just ignored me after knowing I am selling epoints (maybe priority is given to buyer instead). With my experience, those advertiser here for her, i suspect, (only suspicious ok) are only duplicate IDs.
Have a nice weekend everybody
sereneche
Jun 30 2007, 01:58 AM
QUOTE(pokerteller @ Jun 30 2007, 01:40 AM) [snapback]4227569[/snapback]
Why didnt you have the holy thoughts when your account was still active and were also buying and selling epoints? Bro, just cool down, jumping wont help now. Just cross your finger and pray for the best to happen. Good luck.
Anyway I tried to deal with Serene. Their attitude in yahoo messenger makes me puke. Why do you need to ask if I am from your group? Then just ignored me after knowing I am selling epoints (maybe priority is given to buyer instead). With my experience, those advertiser here for her, i suspect, (only suspicious ok) are only duplicate IDs.
Have a nice weekend everybody
We have not talk to you in Yahoo Messenger yet.
Why are you keep accusing us ?
What is your nick in YM ?
Cheers! Serene Chea
power4goddess
Jun 30 2007, 02:22 AM
A HUNGRY MAN IS AN ANGRY MAN..so the saying goes. I think this should also apply to "desperate man", hence, A DESPARATE MAN IS AN ANGRY MAN..and you can see them all over in this forum!
Up till now, I still applaud Serene's calm and patient responses to our angry MY friends. That also explains why she is the top dealer at the moment, and not those who screamed at her.
I intend to stay loyal to SMF/SC with 100% faith. I have confidence that they will gear me and other faithful investors towards a new investment platform which they had so "visioned" right from start. Success or failure cannot be measured by monetary gain or loss only, to be able to live the way we live now is already a success itself, don't you think so?
A wonderful weekend to all..
swisscashforum
Jun 30 2007, 02:25 AM
QUOTE(sereneche @ Jun 30 2007, 01:58 AM) [snapback]4227596[/snapback]
Allow me to mention something. It is very true that Serene is not behind the computer servicing investors. All and even this ID in MMG are handle and run by her staffs. Serene herself is too busy with other matter. So I am not surprise a little lack of service sometimes. Actually if you have a big active group and enough cash to roll, you can make yourself a dealer and announce it to the world. But so far, Serene's group is the most active in dealing of epoints since after MY accounts were blocked. How good is their service, you judge for yourself. Lets be harmony and help each other....
God Bless
digger71
Jun 30 2007, 02:37 AM
I'm very confuse whether scash is still pay their investors or not , some say yes ,. some say dont. Which 1 is true ?
tipusultan
Jun 30 2007, 02:40 AM
QUOTE(sereneche @ Jun 28 2007, 02:28 AM) [snapback]4222170[/snapback]
Cheers, Serene Chea Your Swiss Cash Investment Consultant and E-Points Dealer
HI madam spoke 2 u on your mobile ,u told me that u will sms me bank a/c to transfer money,but u never send the the sms,then i have send u sms regardind my email id my mobile numbers,but could not get any reply,i calling u on ur mobile daily u r not lifting the phone because u know the number ,please do not send any negative message about swisscash,if u r not capable to supply swiss point accept it ,but do not try to create bad image about swisscash.all wrong happenend because ur malasian goverment, if u need help come to india i will help u.swisscash is always best and also created a goldel history which no body can equal it.sorry if i am harsh but swiss has given me lot so cannot tolerate any body who try to damage not even my upline who is not lifting the phone in malasia.
reality
Jun 30 2007, 02:47 AM
QUOTE(malwen1611 @ Jun 30 2007, 02:49 PM) [snapback]4227262[/snapback]
First of all u r d one barking n boasting all d time, all u r doing is profittting fr this crisis n many people in this forum knows about this, secondly I hv never wanted 2 join ur socall ANGEL SAVOIR N ALMIGHTY group, thirdly this is a forum where everybody can airs their views n if u r not mature enough 2 except this pls u r not welcome here. Lastly hv u ever thought 4 once that all d epoints u r buying now r not fr d MY ID anymore because Swisscash hs intentionally block d MOBILE facility so that Msian investors cannot transfer their epoints n change them into cash, n all d epoints that u r buying now r sold 2 new or reinvestors just imagine 4 a split second whats gonna happen if Isay if Swisscash does d same towards SG ID. Never evsr say CHEERS 2 U
Malwen1611, why are you putting all the hatred around? If you are good enough please come out the solution rather than complaining??? You look so desperate person moving around without any directions. Go and pray to your God..may God bless you!!!
swisscashforum
Jun 30 2007, 02:49 AM
QUOTE(malwen1611 @ Jun 29 2007, 10:32 PM) [snapback]4227232[/snapback]
D epoints that Serena n her group is buying at this stage is immediately sold mostly 2 Spore new investors or reinvestor, that beens its a bussiness transaction between d buyer n seller, but d main issues here is if Swisscash can block MY ID fr asscessing D website then later preventing MY ID fr MOBILE ASSCESS thus preventing Msian investors fr having any chance of transfering their epoints n changing them into cash, Just imagine what would happen 2 this socall new or reinvestors if I say if Swisscash does d same 2 SG ID,think about it? n she still does not get it, they r many non Msian investors out there not getting their money thru OMT, swisscash is paying some n not paying some, some r due 4 more than 30 days, this should not b happening if Swisscash is as proffessional as they say they r. CHEERS, Hope 4 d sake of my personal group n ur big big group that i m wrong
My opinion - SC is definitely still involve in the whole operation. Unlike what people speculated it has left with only dealers and investors playing the game. Or else, nobody will run and maintain the server site. No more expensive sms to investors which we still receiving.
One explanation I gathered on delayed OMT, which more cases happened only lately, around same time when MY account were blocked, is because SC had appointed most of the transaction to 3rd party (dealers) from MY. Having their account being blocked, I am sure those MY dealers wont be glad to send money to complete the OMT. Its up to SC to redirect those epoints to dealers with active trading accounts now. Hope this will solve very soon
reality
Jun 30 2007, 03:02 AM
QUOTE(tipusultan @ Jun 30 2007, 06:40 PM) [snapback]4227658[/snapback]
HI madam spoke 2 u on your mobile ,u told me that u will sms me bank a/c to transfer money,but u never send the the sms,then i have send u sms regardind my email id my mobile numbers,but could not get any reply,i calling u on ur mobile daily u r not lifting the phone because u know the number ,please do not send any negative message about swisscash,if u r not capable to supply swiss point accept it ,but do not try to create bad image about swisscash.all wrong happenend because ur malasian goverment, if u need help come to india i will help u.swisscash is always best and also created a goldel history which no body can equal it.sorry if i am harsh but swiss has given me lot so cannot tolerate any body who try to damage not even my upline who is not lifting the phone in malasia.
TIPUSULTAN..PI LA TIPU INDIA PUNYA SULTAN!!! I AM PRETTY SURE YOU ARE NOT AN INDIAN, BUT JUST A SMALL MOSQUITO JUST TO GIVE A LUCK HERE. DON"T TRY TO CREATE A STORY OF YOUR OWN. AS OF NOW NOBODY REALLY COME WITH PROOF TO SAY SERENE'S GROUP HAS TARNISHED THE SC IMAGE. HER GROUP IS GROWING AND GROWING TREMENDOUSLY. I SEE IT MYSELF AND I SPOKE TO HER PEOPLE AND HERSELF.
QUOTE(tipusultan @ Jun 30 2007, 06:40 PM) [snapback]4227658[/snapback]
HI madam spoke 2 u on your mobile ,u told me that u will sms me bank a/c to transfer money,but u never send the the sms,then i have send u sms regardind my email id my mobile numbers,but could not get any reply,i calling u on ur mobile daily u r not lifting the phone because u know the number ,please do not send any negative message about swisscash,if u r not capable to supply swiss point accept it ,but do not try to create bad image about swisscash.all wrong happenend because ur malasian goverment, if u need help come to india i will help u.swisscash is always best and also created a goldel history which no body can equal it.sorry if i am harsh but swiss has given me lot so cannot tolerate any body who try to damage not even my upline who is not lifting the phone in malasia.
TIPUSULTAN..PI LA TIPU INDIA PUNYA SULTAN!!! I AM PRETTY SURE YOU ARE NOT AN INDIAN, BUT JUST A SMALL MOSQUITO JUST TO GIVE A LUCK HERE. DON"T TRY TO CREATE A STORY OF YOUR OWN. AS OF NOW NOBODY REALLY COME WITH PROOF TO SAY SERENE'S GROUP HAS TARNISHED THE SC IMAGE. HER GROUP IS GROWING AND GROWING TREMENDOUSLY. I SEE IT MYSELF AND I SPOKE TO HER PEOPLE AND HERSELF.
pokerteller
Jun 30 2007, 03:13 AM
QUOTE(tipusultan @ Jun 30 2007, 02:40 AM) [snapback]4227658[/snapback]
HI madam spoke 2 u on your mobile ,u told me that u will sms me bank a/c to transfer money,but u never send the the sms,then i have send u sms regardind my email id my mobile numbers,but could not get any reply,i calling u on ur mobile daily u r not lifting the phone because u know the number ,please do not send any negative message about swisscash,if u r not capable to supply swiss point accept it ,but do not try to create bad image about swisscash.all wrong happenend because ur malasian goverment, if u need help come to india i will help u.swisscash is always best and also created a goldel history which no body can equal it.sorry if i am harsh but swiss has given me lot so cannot tolerate any body who try to damage not even my upline who is not lifting the phone in malasia.
Great, someone has experience the negative side of Serene's group. Prove that I was telling the truth
tipusultan
Jun 30 2007, 03:24 AM
[quote name='reality' date='Jun 30 2007, 03:02 AM' post='4227702'] TIPUSULTAN..PI LA TIPU INDIA PUNYA SULTAN!!! I AM PRETTY SURE YOU ARE NOT AN INDIAN, BUT JUST A SMALL MOSQUITO JUST TO GIVE A LUCK HERE. DON"T TRY TO CREATE A STORY OF YOUR OWN. AS OF NOW NOBODY REALLY COME WITH PROOF TO SAY SERENE'S GROUP HAS TARNISHED THE SC IMAGE. HER GROUP IS GROWING AND GROWING TREMENDOUSLY. I SEE IT MYSELF AND I SPOKE TO HER PEOPLE AND HERSELF. TIPUSULTAN..PI LA TIPU INDIA PUNYA SULTAN!!! I AM PRETTY SURE YOU ARE NOT AN INDIAN, BUT JUST A SMALL MOSQUITO JUST TO GIVE A LUCK HERE. DON"T TRY TO CREATE A STORY OF YOUR OWN. AS OF NOW NOBODY REALLY COME WITH PROOF TO SAY SERENE'S GROUP HAS TARNISHED THE SC IMAGE. HER GROUP IS GROWING AND GROWING TREMENDOUSLY. I SEE IT MYSELF AND I SPOKE TO HER PEOPLE AND HERSELF. [PLEASE CHEAK INBOX OF MADAM MOBILE PHONE ON 28/06/07
sereneche
Jun 30 2007, 03:30 AM
QUOTE(reality @ Jun 30 2007, 03:02 AM) [snapback]4227702[/snapback]
TIPUSULTAN..PI LA TIPU INDIA PUNYA SULTAN!!! I AM PRETTY SURE YOU ARE NOT AN INDIAN, BUT JUST A SMALL MOSQUITO JUST TO GIVE A LUCK HERE. DON"T TRY TO CREATE A STORY OF YOUR OWN. AS OF NOW NOBODY REALLY COME WITH PROOF TO SAY SERENE'S GROUP HAS TARNISHED THE SC IMAGE. HER GROUP IS GROWING AND GROWING TREMENDOUSLY. I SEE IT MYSELF AND I SPOKE TO HER PEOPLE AND HERSELF. TIPUSULTAN..PI LA TIPU INDIA PUNYA SULTAN!!! I AM PRETTY SURE YOU ARE NOT AN INDIAN, BUT JUST A SMALL MOSQUITO JUST TO GIVE A LUCK HERE. DON"T TRY TO CREATE A STORY OF YOUR OWN. AS OF NOW NOBODY REALLY COME WITH PROOF TO SAY SERENE'S GROUP HAS TARNISHED THE SC IMAGE. HER GROUP IS GROWING AND GROWING TREMENDOUSLY. I SEE IT MYSELF AND I SPOKE TO HER PEOPLE AND HERSELF.
I am a very busy person. Please understand I have over 6000 growing team members to followup and will not be able to reply you so fast.
I have given my payment details a few times on the forum, please read the forum before you post.
Cheers! Serene Chea Hi pokerteller,
Please provide your YM nick, can you do that pls ?
Is that so hard ?
Cheers! Serene Chea
THANK U MADAM I HAVE NOTTING PERSONAL AGAINT U
Forbe2
Jun 30 2007, 04:21 AM
QUOTE(sereneche @ Jun 30 2007, 07:06 PM) [snapback]4227394[/snapback]
Basically, SC is always paying , it's the problems with the OMT's dealers , SC randomly choose dealers to send payment out and there are 2 kind of dealers, lazy and hardworking. Some of the dealers might be Malaysians Leaders too which was stuck or hanging in the air.
Choosing a dealer is important, if they are hardworking. you will get money and e-points fast.
Why are we the Largest E-Points dealers ?
That is because we have many runners and dealers in our group to serve different countries.
In Jamacia alone we have over USD 2 Million Transactions in 1 Single Month. How do you think we can cope ?
We serve our downlines as a Personal Dealer which we can deal any amount up to USD100,000 per transaction.
Malaysians pls be patient, i am sure SC will unblock MY accounts soon. Just cross your fingers.
Serena, Thank-you for your reply. I appreciate in part as to what you have explained but do appreciate as well that there are some fundamental issues with the program which are not being addressed. Tickets are not being responded to. Phone calls are being abruptly ignored. Emails are not being replied to either. In addition, I have affiliates in the US and UK who have been waiting for payouts who have assured me that their OMT's are still in pending status after 5 working days. Some have been waiting for a little longer. The program in itself has fundamental issues which need to be addressed. In the 18 months of my participation, I have to insist that this is the worst case of poor communications which I have ever experienced with this program. You may be trading in the e-currency but if the program itself is experiencing problems, that flow of e-points for resale is not quite ethical. The administration of SC must address their investors regarding the program as there have been many issues which have emerged over the last couple of months which has left people in the dark. Communications is the key where this arena is concerned and so far, the administration has chosen to remain silent despite numerous concerns. That is not the sort of message that the administration should be sending out to its investors. It has a service of which is provided which we are suppose to use in order to communicate with them but when used, the administration doesn't seem to want to reciprocate. In addition, I have rung their office in NY and the receptionist was extremely unhelpful stating that all enquiries should be directed via their web site and when I attempted to explain to her that my ticket has not been responded to in more than 2 weeks, her response was that there was nothing that she could do about that. From what I have gathered, there are definite issues with SC and no one is willing to say what. My personal opinion is that dealers are aware of what is happening but are unable to be say anything, Probably the result of some NDA or the equivalent. In any case, the current situation sits very uneasy with me and I will be advising all my affiliate line to stop investing or re-investing with SC until such time that they choose to communicate with us. I cannot in all good conscious allow more innocent parties to be involved with a program that may be on the inevitable slide down hill. Forbe2.
sereneche
Jun 30 2007, 04:36 AM
Currently, we would advice all SC members to deal their e-points with a dealer, rather than using OMT which would be faster and easier.
Since the blockage of MY accounts. Swiss Cash had numerous flooding of tickets and emails which is expected.
As i have said because of MY accounts are being block (3rd Parties dealers who are MY dealers are unable to send out payment)
Before this situation is back to normal, all SC members are advice to buy or sell through your E-Points dealers.
Everything will be as normal going through a dealer. Think positively.
Cheers! Serene Chea
Forbe2
Jun 30 2007, 05:52 AM
QUOTE(sereneche @ Jun 30 2007, 11:36 PM) [snapback]4227874[/snapback]
Currently, we would advice all SC members to deal their e-points with a dealer, rather than using OMT which would be faster and easier.
Since the blockage of MY accounts. Swiss Cash had numerous flooding of tickets and emails which is expected.
As i have said because of MY accounts are being block (3rd Parties dealers who are MY dealers are unable to send out payment)
Before this situation is back to normal, all SC members are advice to buy or sell through your E-Points dealers.
Everything will be as normal going through a dealer. Think positively.
Cheers! Serene Chea
As much as I appreciate the information that you are offering Serena, I cannot but feel somewhat disappointed with SC admin for not communicating the issues with their system PRIOR to investors requesting for cash outs via OMT. Now that some investors have already requested for a Cash Out, its apparent that they will have no alternative but to wait until such time that admin chooses to process their request. Once again, poor communications and under these circumstances, its rather difficult to think positively about the program when the admin is less than honest nor candid with its members. Back to the drawing board with having to inform the affiliate line via an unofficial channel of what needs to be done. Something which admin should be addressing instead of investors needing to hunt and search for information just to be assured that the program is still alive. Forbe2.
malwen1611
Jun 30 2007, 06:00 AM
QUOTE(reality @ Jun 30 2007, 02:47 AM) [snapback]4227674[/snapback]
Malwen1611, why are you putting all the hatred around? If you are good enough plelersase come out the solution rather than complaining??? You look so desperate person moving around without any directions. Go and pray to your God..may God bless you!!!
I hv never complain n never spread hatred, u call urself REALITY but u cant even hear alittle bit of REALITY only a desperated person like u cant bear 2 hear d truth, d truth is many non Msian investors hv not received their cash fr OMT n SERENE hd d guts 2 even suggest that this may b cause by Msian OMT dealers, anybody that had collected any cash thru OMT will know in their bank statement it was done thru cash deposit that means someone fr that country did that cash deposit,how can Msian OMT dealers do it in d US China Spore n others, u wil b a more desperate person n moving around without any direction in d coming future. I m not d one that runs Swisscash so i can never come out with a solution, but we hv been transfering epoints 4 Msian investors thru MOBILE way way earlier than any other group but now due 2 d intentional blockage of d MOBILE ASSCESS by Swisscash 2 stop Msian fr cashing out we think we r obligated 2 tell not only positive but negative senario 2 new or reinvestors even from Spore China Iran US n others. CHEERS 2 THIS VERY DESPERATE PERSON
digger71
Jun 30 2007, 06:09 AM
Wahhhhhhh..2 many contradictions already here 4 scash, this is not a good sign folks........
AdvisorySupport
Jun 30 2007, 06:12 AM
QUOTE(Forbe2 @ Jun 30 2007, 08:21 PM) [snapback]4227841[/snapback]
Serene,Thank-you for your reply.I appreciate in part as to what you have explained but do appreciate as well that there are some fundamental issues with the program which are not being addressed.Tickets are not being responded to. Phone calls are being abruptly ignored.Emails are not being replied to either. In addition, I have affiliates in the US and UK who have been waiting for payouts who have assured me that their OMT's are still in pending status after 5 working days. Some have been waiting for a little longer.The program in itself has fundamental issues which need to be addressed. In the 18 months of my participation, I have to insist that this is the worst case of poor communications which I have ever experienced with this program.You may be trading in the e-currency but if the program itself is experiencing problems, that flow of e-points for resale is not quite ethical.The administration of SC must address their investors regarding the program as there have been many issues which have emerged over the last couple of months which has left people in the dark.Communications is the key where this arena is concerned and so far,the administration has chosen to remain silent despite numerous concerns.That is not the sort of message that the administration should be sending out to its investors.It has a service of which is provided which we are suppose to use in order to communicate with them but when used, the administration doesn't seem to want to reciprocate.In addition, I have rung their office in NY and the receptionist was extremely unhelpful stating that all enquiries should be directed via their web site and when I attempted to explain to her that my ticket has not been responded to in more than 2 weeks, her response was that there was nothing that she could do about that.From what I have gathered, there are definite issues with SC and no one is willing to say what.My personal opinion is that dealers are aware of what is happening but are unable to be say anything, Probably the result of some NDA or the equivalent. In any case, the current situation sits very uneasy with me and I will be advising all my affiliate line to stop investing or re-investing with SC until such time that they choose to communicate with us.I cannot in all good conscious allow more innocent parties to be involved with a program that may be on the inevitable slide down hill. Forbe2.
Thanks to Forbe2. The above message was well written by Forbe2 and should quickly be conveyed to the SC top management in whatever way possible, for example faxing to the attention of Mr Michael Manfield or posting by mail to whatever address we could find or use the swiss ticketing system. The line of commuication between SC and investors has seem to fall on deaf ears or just one way traffic! If this fails, I do hope some top leaders who know Mr BB Ng's and Dr Albert Lee's contact to please quickly convey to them. Mr BB Ng - 100% had met Mr Michael Manfield personally before & Mr BB Ng 100% has Mr Michael's contact. Mr Michael had said in one of his SC news update that he had read SC forum posts before. Hope he is reading here.
So Mr Michael Manfield, Mr BB Ng and Dr Albert Lee, if you are reading this post to please give us, M'sian investors more assuring love and understanding to quickly allow us to transact our SC business. Just in China, as I heard the normal SC website is blocked but SC has given the Chinese investors there alternative websites to login like sip25.com and scmutualfund.com even if these sites have to go through any reliable proxy server. Fellow bro and sis in SC, what would you advise to improve the poor communication which Forbe2 has insisted it as the worst case he has ever experienced in this program. Thank you.
Forbe2
Jun 30 2007, 06:21 AM
There have been some very ligitimate concerns about the program and some of the issues which have yet to be addressed by SC admin. As much as MMG is a good source of information, non the less, it is not the official channel of communications between SC and its Investors. Unfortunately, that channel of communications does not seem to exist right now so all we can rely on are the bits and pieces of information which is exchanged via this channel. That being said, tabling these very ligitimate concerns should not be seen as any form of negativity, contrary, should be received as some of the short comings of the program. As much as SC has been a well performing program over the last 24 months or so, it is apparent now that there is definitely room for improvement. We have been assured on numerous occassions that SC would address its members with the utmost level of professionalism yet on many occasions in recent times, that assurance seemed to have been placed on the way side. I believe that it is equally important to ask the difficult questions if we hope to find a solution to the current status quo. If SC is to survive its predicted plan until 2010, then it must take these issues seriously and address them professionally or this program is surely doomed. Keeping their members in the dark is not my idea of professionalism. Forbe2.
Dr Net
Jun 30 2007, 07:01 AM
QUOTE(padukatuan @ Jun 30 2007, 01:35 AM) [snapback]4227238[/snapback]
When i login into my ID my using mobile celcom.This error means "Your mobile swisscash access has been blocked.please unblock it back normal (non mobile) swisscash.Please help me to solve this problem.
global_talksc@yahoo.com
QUOTE(padukatuan @ Jun 30 2007, 01:35 AM) [snapback]4227238[/snapback]
When i login into my ID my using mobile celcom.This error means "Your mobile swisscash access has been blocked.please unblock it back normal (non mobile) swisscash.Please help me to solve this problem.
global_talksc@yahoo.com
Does this mean you can still assess me thru your Can u please PM me
QUOTE(Dr Net @ Jun 30 2007, 09:49 AM) [snapback]4228146[/snapback]
Does this mean you can still assess me thru your Can u please PM me
I mean MY id. I thought you can't access thru your mobile anymore. This is news
Forbe2
Jun 30 2007, 07:02 AM
QUOTE(Dr Net @ Jul 1 2007, 01:49 AM) [snapback]4228146[/snapback]
Does this mean you can still assess me thru your Can u please PM me
That is just a standard message which appears when MY clients try to log into their accounts using SC Mobile Services. The reality is that MY investors cannot log into their accounts at all as all avenues have now been closed off. Forbe2.
digger71
Jun 30 2007, 07:31 AM
QUOTE(Forbe2 @ Jun 30 2007, 07:02 AM) [snapback]4228181[/snapback]
That is just a standard message which appears when MY clients try to log into their accounts using SC Mobile Services. The reality is that MY investors cannot log into their accounts at all as all avenues have now been closed off. Forbe2.
Yes , the scash has double standard law , when its involving china investors , they came up with a quick contingency plan , but not with malaysia investors , very pathetic one
llcw
Jun 30 2007, 08:01 AM
It is apparent that SC has not been responding to most, if not all, of its member's queries. Has anybody attempted to approach SMF for info & update? Since it is the mother company of SC, SMF should have every detail of SC unless SC is never in their organization. I think the investers have right to get some clarification & explanation from them.
Dr Net
Jun 30 2007, 08:23 AM
QUOTE(llcw @ Jun 30 2007, 11:01 AM) [snapback]4228296[/snapback]
It is apparent that SC has not been responding to most, if not all, of its member's queries. Has anybody attempted to approach SMF for info & update? Since it is the mother company of SC, SMF should have every detail of SC unless SC is never in their organization. I think the investers have right to get some clarification & explanation from them.
What do MY investors do now
geranium
Jun 30 2007, 08:28 AM
QUOTE(sereneche @ Jun 30 2007, 05:36 AM) [snapback]4227874[/snapback]
Currently, we would advice all SC members to deal their e-points with a dealer, rather than using OMT which would be faster and easier.
Since the blockage of MY accounts. Swiss Cash had numerous flooding of tickets and emails which is expected.
As i have said because of MY accounts are being block (3rd Parties dealers who are MY dealers are unable to send out payment)
Before this situation is back to normal, all SC members are advice to buy or sell through your E-Points dealers.
Since SwissCash announced on June 15 the blockage of MY accounts, its assignments of OMTs to dealers should be to e-points dealers that can access their accounts. Therefore, we should see people getting paid who submitted their OMTs after June 15.
malwen1611
Jun 30 2007, 08:41 AM
QUOTE(AdvisorySupport @ Jun 30 2007, 06:12 AM) [snapback]4228073[/snapback]
Thanks to Forbe2. The above message was well written by Forbe2 and should quickly be conveyed to the SC top management in whatever way possible, for example faxing to the attention of Mr Michael Manfield or posting by mail to whatever address we could find or use the swiss ticketing system. The line of commuication between SC and investors has seem to fall on deaf ears or just one way traffic! If this fails, I do hope some top leaders who know Mr BB Ng's and Dr Albert Lee's contact to please quickly convey to them. Mr BB Ng - 100% had met Mr Michael Manfield personally before & Mr BB Ng 100% has Mr Michael's contact. Mr Michael had said in one of his SC news update that he had read SC forum posts before. Hope he is reading here.
So Mr Michael Manfield, Mr BB Ng and Dr Albert Lee, if you are reading this post to please give us, M'sian investors more assuring love and understanding to quickly allow us to transact our SC business. Just in China, as I heard the normal SC website is blocked but SC has given the Chinese investors there alternative websites to login like sip25.com and scmutualfund.com even if these sites have to go through any reliable proxy server. Fellow bro and sis in SC, what would you advise to improve the poor communication which Forbe2 has insisted it as the worst case he has ever experienced in this program. Thank you.
Sorry just need 2 add, its not Dr Albert Lee, d Dr Lee is just his nick name, he is just plain super rich Mr Albert Lee a former programer fr Kucing Sarawak East Msia n hope KL FLYER will b posting his photo soon. CHEERS
sereneche
Jun 30 2007, 12:43 PM
Dear Members,
For those who wants to sell their E-Points, please email to serenechea@millionaire-gain.com
For those who wants to buy their E-Points, please email or add me to
In 1996, Malaysias ex- Prime Minister Dr. Mahathir Mohamed launched an ambitious project, the Multimedia Super Corridor (MSC), attracting investment and support from the world most renowned Information Technology (IT) companies. The Malaysian government ensures an attractive environment for IT companies as outlined in the Bill of Guarantees. The 10-point bill reflects the commitment of the Malaysian government and its willingness to foster the development of the multimedia industries. Considering the privileged status of MSC companies, the application time for a company can be as fast as 30 days, but normally takes between 2 and 6 months.
In accordance to the Bill of Guarantees, Dr. Mahathir has reaffirmed that there will be no censorship on the Internet. In fact, he has reinforced his stand on the subject and has called all relevant government agencies to make the necessary legal and administrative arrangements to strengthen the enforcement of Intellectual Property Rights.
Those involved with the MSC consider IT as way to share ideas. Dr. Mahathir is an adamant believer in the philosophy to prosper thy neighbor, which equally applies to the MSC. All it initiatives need to adopt this policy. This is comparable to the Industrial Age, when more and more economics industrialize, thereby building a greater marketplace, says Benedict Lee, managing director of Microsoft.
MELAYU BOLEH , MELAYU MUDAH LUPA MALAYSIAN CAN , MALAYSIAN FORGETS.
AT THE LAUNCH OF THE MULTIMEDIA SUPER CORRIDOR (M.S.C.) NEXT LEAP AT KUALA LUMPUR CITY CENTRE (MAIN CONCOURSE) ON 3RDJULY 2004, 2.00 P.M. ---------------------------------
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
2. MALAYSIA HAS MADE A FIRM COMMITMENT TO EMBRACE I.C.T. AS PART OF ITS STRATEGY TO TRANSFORM ITSELF INTO A KNOWLEDGE-BASED ECONOMY AND VALUES-BASED SOCIETY. NOWHERE IS THIS COMMITMENT MORE EVIDENT THAN IN THE MULTIMEDIA SUPER CORRIDOR (M.S.C.). THE FIRST SEVEN YEARS OF THE M.S.C. FOCUSED ON DEVELOPING THE FOUNDATION FOR A MALAYSIAN I.C.T. REVOLUTION. AS SUCH, THE POLICIES AND STRATEGIES THAT WERE ADOPTED FOCUSED ON BUILDING UP THE PHYSICAL, LEGAL, AS WELL AS THE BUSINESS INFRASTRUCTURE AND SUPPORT SYSTEMS. ALTHOUGH THE M.S.C. HAD ITS FAIR SHARE OF SETBACKS, MANY OF THE ORIGINAL TARGETS THAT HAD BEEN SET WERE IN FACT SURPASSED. INDEED, I BELIEVE IT IS OUR ABILITY TO RESPOND TO MARKET DEMANDS AND OUR WILLINGNESS TO BE FLEXIBLE THAT HAS, AND WILL, CARRY US THROUGH IN REACHING OUR GOAL OF VISION 2020.
3. MOVING FORWARD, THE M.S.C. NEXT LEAP WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD UPON ITS DEMONSTRATED STRENGTHS IN KEY AREAS, WHILE SEEKING OUT NEW INVESTMENTS AND INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGIES, BOTH LOCAL AND FOREIGN. OVER THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS, THE M.S.C.’S TARGETS AND INITIATIVES WILL FOCUS ON HARNESSING THE POWER OF I.C.T. AS A VITAL SOURCE OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AS WELL AS AN ENABLER FOR OTHER CRTICAL AREAS SUCH AS EDUCATION, HEALTH, AND BIOTECHNOLOGY, AMONG OTHERS. EMPHASIS WILL ALSO BE GIVEN TO EMPOWERING THE PEOPLE THOUGH I.C.T.. AS I HAVE OFTEN SAID BEFORE, IN THE DIGITAL AND INFORMATION AGE, AWARENESS OF AND ACCESS TO TECHNOLOGY ARE VITAL. CERTAINLY, INACCESIBILITY TO TECHNOLOGY, BECAUSE OF DIGITAL DEVIDE, MAY PROVE TO BE A NEW FORM OF POVERTY IN THE DIGITAL AGE.
Serena, [quote] we the Largest E-Points dealers ? That is because we have many runners and dealers in our group to serve different countries.In Jamacia alone we have over USD 2 Million Transactions in 1 Single Month. How do you think we can cope ?We serve our downlines as a Personal Dealer which we can deal any amount up to USD100,000 per transaction.
Malaysians pls be patient, i am sure SC will unblock MY accounts soon. Just cross your fingers.
quote Forbe2. From what I have gathered, there are definite issues with SC and no one is willing to say what.My personal opinion is that dealers are aware of what is happening but are unable to be say anything, Probably the result of some NDA or the equivalent. quote Forbe2.
Serena Chea I have to agree with Forbe2 that dealers are well aware of the present problems. Serena , you as the largest e-points dealer , deny that you have no influenced or unable to comunicate with s/cash management. If s/cash management ,do not listen to the largest e-point dealer, who else will they listen to? . At least say, that you will try to communicate with s/cash management for giving better service. Also please inform s/cash about MY investors , which is at the moment in pityfull state.
pokpok
NthDimensions
Jun 30 2007, 07:45 PM
QUOTE(pokerteller @ Jun 29 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]4223997[/snapback]
can anybody pls help to tell me?
I requested $2,400 (Ref 2120S) on 14/6/07 for out-going money transfer. Activated on 18/6/07. Today 29/6/07, still no money in my bank. Thought it is suppose to be within 5 biz days? Already 12 biz days (16 days in all), is this common or.....?
depends on which country's bank account you requested the money to be deposited into, it can take as long as 2 weeks, not including non-banking days
QUOTE(AdvisorySupport @ Jun 29 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]4224343[/snapback]
MALAYSIA Peaceful picket to hand a memorandum to PM regarding SwissCash is confirmed at the time and place appended below. Please do not sensationalise this post with unconstructive comments as the picket is set and effort has been made by coming together in unity. This peaceful picket I believe and may I suggest the following consideration:- (1) it is NOT a protest but simply to hand a sincere and practical memo to our PM. (2) it should be done in a rational and professional protocol without our human rights being suppressed. (3) unruly behaviour during picket is detrimental to public image. (4) memo should have a follow-up meeting with govt to create understanding. An ad hoc committee can be considered. If possible, get some well respected VIPs to help out. (5) proposals should spell out valid reasons to allow MY to do SC at least as a temporary measure until a full measure is given. Genuine internet businesses are becoming the trend to boost any country's economy. Just like in this internet age, we can buy online insurance from a well known and genuine offshore company. There is nothing wrong with it except a virtual company is not required to have a local license to operate online. (6) it is good to learn from many countries whereby SC website is freely allowed. (7) get some good media coverage including understanding SC better. (8) if the motivation, purpose and direction of this picket is good. Then, the govt may consider. (9) as a courtesy, inform SMF/SC about this peaceful memorandum.
The following quoted post written in Malay, briefly translated- it is said that the picket is confirmed to be held on 14th July 2007(Sat), 12 noon at Dataran Putra Jaya, Malaysia. They are calling all SC supporters and those doing any internet programs to kindly come and show your full support! This is the time for us to take a constructive action. If not, until when we need to patiently wait. Let us now exercise our human rights as citizens of democracy.
SUBJECT: PIKET PENGHANTARAN MEMORANDUM KPD PM TENTANG SWISSCASH (Picket to hand a memorandum to PM regarding SwissCash) DATE: 14 JULY 2007 ( SABTU ) (Sat) TIME: 12 TENGAHARI (12 noon) PLACE: DATARAN PUTRA JAYA, MALAYSIA. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SHOW YOUR SUPPORT BY SUBMITTING YOUR VOTE AT: http://pasai-swisscash.blogspot.com/ This website is written in Malay. Just go to it and scroll down to the voting box just below the 4th picture on the right-side of the homepage. The voting box has the following words, please cast your vote to support. Thank you. AFUNDI PASAI - SWISSCASH (SwissCash Voting Box) Choose "Aku Yakin Lagi" (STILL HAVE CONFIDENCE) if you want to show your support. Then click "submit vote". You can also add your advice/comment there even in English. Thank you once again! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE: This post has nothing to do with politics, religions, race or going against any govt or authority. This is a first attempt in spearheading better understanding in order to quickly solve the SwissCash predicament in M'sia. At least we need to voice out so that in our country we can do genuine businesses online for the sake of our country's economy including promoting our country's multi-media super corridor as a global internet multi-media hub to foster online international trades, financial transactions, foreign investments including tourism and education in Malaysia. An open policy will help Malaysia in the long run. If SwissCash allows us to login and promote its business, we do not want the authority to catch us, freeze our bank accounts, seal our house, fine us, put us in jail if we are caught! There must be some freedom guaranteed for Malaysians to do genuine offshore businesses online. As Malaysians, we do not mind paying our income tax from these business earnings. It is time we have to hand this memo to the govt. If not now, when? Any mistakes written here, please forgive me. Thank you very much for your understanding!
wow! all else being said, M'sians are still a vocal bunch and daring-to-do, compared to meek 'law-abiding' Singaporean. Picketing will never happen in Singapore
QUOTE(malwen1611 @ Jun 29 2007, 03:57 PM) [snapback]4224544[/snapback]
Its d oldest trick in any CONS or SCAMS pay some n dont pay some,those that got paid thinks ur GOD those that did not get paid will b very NOISY everybody confuse but d cons or scams carry on. CHEERS
can you provide us with an example of such a con/scam?
QUOTE(balestierkid @ Jun 29 2007, 06:04 PM) [snapback]4224812[/snapback]
Like to throw a question
Are investors allow to trade epoints with each other, instead of dealer? Any rules from the company stop us from doing so?
no. that's what Internal Money Transfer is for.
QUOTE(swisstalk @ Jun 29 2007, 06:38 PM) [snapback]4224875[/snapback]
All SwissCash investors are free to conduct private exchange of e-points between members.
SwissCash did not refrain members to exchange e-points via its e-banking system built-in its SC financial platform.
Cheers! Very good FOREX for SwissCash e-points.
Highly recommended to deal with you! Very good FOREX for SwissCash e-points.
Highly recommended to deal with you!
SwissTalk, your promotion is too obvious. heeheehee
Spinach
Jun 30 2007, 07:46 PM
So what do we look at:
Our dealer has had his email account hacked, next big downline from him has been travelling and can't access emails - these are the reasons for not being able to receive wire details and attend to them?????? Nobody is getting replies to tickets submitted to Swiss Cash. No response to emails No response from phone call (noted in an earlier post) No recent news on the Swiss Cash site. Requested payments late
Alarm bells are ringing. I could join up about 4 people at the moment but my ethical nature tells me that until all this settles down it would be very wrong.
Communication is definitely the key here and Swiss Cash is not responding. Even if they have been flooded with tickets, emails etc, the common sense thing to do would be to post some news on their site for heavens sake, how difficult could that be.
NthDimensions
Jun 30 2007, 08:05 PM
QUOTE(digger71 @ Jun 29 2007, 07:34 PM) [snapback]4225033[/snapback]
Is scash officilally scam for MY id already ?
one word of advise from the Law of Attraction. If you think SCash is scam for you, most likely it will be for you. The more you worry about negative/unhappy stuff, even thinking of it unconsciously, more negative and unhappy stuff will happen for you, and this will run into a vicious circle.
beware
QUOTE(swisstalk @ Jun 29 2007, 10:20 PM) [snapback]4225482[/snapback]
Now all MY IDs have been filtered from SwissCash's database ....
wow! this is intereating info. It means some MY ids are functional, if they can bypass MY govt's block.
this can means either of 2 things: 1) SCash is blocking some MY ids pending investigations into some MY investors breaching any SCash regulations (over-promoting/solicit funds in public, etc)
2) only top MY leaders are able to access their accounts due to unknown reasons SCash is not telling the rest.
These are my theories.
QUOTE(xun @ Jun 29 2007, 11:19 PM) [snapback]4225658[/snapback]
If Scash NOT PAYING to MY investors anymore.. DO you think the EPOINTS still got VALUE? That time SCASH turns into SCAM.. everyone selling it...
SCash is still paying e-points into MY account, it's just that you are unable to access your MY account due to: 1) MY govt block 2) possible SCash MY id block (some MY id are accessible)
these are 2 different issues.
QUOTE(xun @ Jun 30 2007, 02:01 AM) [snapback]4226072[/snapback]
Block means what?? How long it takes? whole life/? One day they don't unblock MY accounts it's still consider as SCAM.
wrong perception, bro. cool down.
while the rest of the world is getting paid, you have no basis to cry scam, because the action on MY investors by SCash is an isolated case between SCash and MY investors.
I would also cry scam of the MY govt during the Asian financial crisis because my ringgit became waste paper when I was oversea.
QUOTE(digger71 @ Jun 30 2007, 04:14 AM) [snapback]4226336[/snapback]
What is the update 4 MY id , any good news guy ?
there won't be good news for you because you won't be able to recognise it
Spinach
Jun 30 2007, 08:07 PM
In Australia we have a guy who actually featured in "The Secret" promoting the law of attraction who has turned out to be one of the biggest scammers around. Those people are a group making money out of the rest of us.
We must think positively, I agree, but common sense must prevail. He is quite right in thinking Swiss Cash may be a scam. Until such time as they COMMUNICATE with us and keep us informed we naturally think something is wrong. The survival instinct clicks in.
BTW nobody wants everything to be ok more than me.
Forbe2
Jun 30 2007, 09:40 PM
In Serene's defense, I must add that she is doing her best to accommodate as many members as possible in the purchase and disposal of e-points. I have had a lengthy discussion with her on YIM and I believe that she is on the right track towards continuing with the program despite the adversities. Malaysian Investors, do keep in mind that your current status has nothing to do with SC admin itself. It is your constitutional rights which are being impeded and in a democracy, that is quite a shame when an authoritarian government can choose to pull the plug on their subjects as they see fit. As most of the postings here reflect. You need to take action and petition the government to keep to its initial vision of allowing a progressive and free trade economy which will allow individuals to exercise their rights through freedom of choice. That is what true democracy is all about and unfortunately, the Malaysian Government has chosen to ignore your rights to have free choice to use the internet as you see fit. I do believe that issues are being resolved as we speak and there should be some solution, though timing is of the essence, however, keep in mind that administrations can only work towards cultivating good relations with government agencies. They are not able to change policy. Do also keep in mind that while you are here making statements that SC is a 'Scam' based on your current situation that you are not doing the program any good by blaming the administration for a situation which is out of their control. As an admin to any program must be seen to be adhering to the demands of the government whether they like it or not. Unfortunately, it is the boundaries which have been created by these governments which are impeding your progress, not SC. So by bad mouthing the program while it is working through this difficult time, this is not going to help the situation at all. In addition, you will only be jeopardizing the future of the program and should all fail, then all your hard work would truly have been in vain. Solution ? Ride the tide out. This is simply yet another rough patch which we must all go through and have sufficient confidence and faith in the administration to resolve the issues in due course. Just my 2 cents worth. Forbe2.
KL-Flyer
Jun 30 2007, 10:01 PM
QUOTE(swisscashforum @ Jun 30 2007, 06:49 PM) [snapback]4227677[/snapback]
One explanation I gathered on delayed OMT, which more cases happened only lately, around same time when MY account were blocked, is because SC had appointed most of the transaction to 3rd party (dealers) from MY. Having their account being blocked, I am sure those MY dealers wont be glad to send money to complete the OMT. Its up to SC to redirect those epoints to dealers with active trading accounts now. Hope this will solve very soon
Sorry, I dun think so!! Dun always blame the so call "MY" 3rd party payment gateway! As I noticed, no such thing!! SC "appoint" their own ppl making the payment in M'sia. Blaming the 3rd party is one of their tricks.
Now, is not the matter of OMT. The key point is...... Can anyone tell the reason?WHY SISSCASH BLOCKED US FROM "SC MOBILE"?
QUOTE(swisscashforum @ Jun 30 2007, 06:49 PM) [snapback]4227677[/snapback]
One explanation I gathered on delayed OMT, which more cases happened only lately, around same time when MY account were blocked, is because SC had appointed most of the transaction to 3rd party (dealers) from MY. Having their account being blocked, I am sure those MY dealers wont be glad to send money to complete the OMT. Its up to SC to redirect those epoints to dealers with active trading accounts now. Hope this will solve very soon
Sorry, I dun think so!! Dun always blame the so call "MY" 3rd party payment gateway! As I noticed, no such thing!! SC "appoint" their own ppl making the payment in M'sia. Blaming the 3rd party is one of their tricks.
Now, is not the matter of OMT. The key point is...... Can anyone tell the reason?WHY SISSCASH BLOCKED US FROM "SC MOBILE"?
Sorry, I dun think so!! Dun always blame the so call "MY" 3rd party payment gateway! As I noticed, no such thing!! SC "appoint" their own ppl making the payment in M'sia. Blaming the 3rd party is one of their tricks.
Now, is not the matter of OMT. The key point is...... Can anyone tell the reason?WHY SISSCASH BLOCKED US FROM "SC MOBILE"? Sorry, I dun think so!! Dun always blame the so call "MY" 3rd party payment gateway! As I noticed, no such thing!! SC "appoint" their own ppl making the payment in M'sia. Blaming the 3rd party is one of their tricks.
Now, is not the matter of OMT. The key point is...... Can anyone tell the reason?WHY SISSCASH BLOCKED US FROM "SC MOBILE"?
Could it be remotely possible that the Malaysian Govt, discovered that some SC Malaysian Investors were still able to access their accounts and therefore placed added pressure on the SC admin to close off all portals while negotiations were in progress ? It's always easy to see the negative aspect of any situation, however, analysing all possibilities towards a positive outlook is what make the Law of Attraction all that more visible. You reap what you sow. If you see the program as impeeding your progress, then expect the worst but if you see this as a temporary setback and that workings are in progress towards alleviating the problem, then anything is possible. Do keep in mind that SC has been perhaps one of few programs which has been performing well in access of 24 months. In that time, many people have achieved their financial goals and I have no reason to think that this situation will change. Keep a positive outlook with what you hope to achieve and anything or everything is possible. Forbe2.
KL-Flyer
Jun 30 2007, 10:11 PM
Who is Who??
Albert Lee (Malaysian) is also known as "Swisscash Asian Tecnical Director". However, a lots people belives he is actually Swisscash Founder. Keep this photo, u may need it one day. incase!
Locatio: KL TOWER 2005 ( SC top meeting!)
sereneche
Jun 30 2007, 10:26 PM
QUOTE(Forbe2 @ Jun 30 2007, 10:07 PM) [snapback]4229442[/snapback]
Could it be remotely possible that the Malaysian Govt, discovered that some SC Malaysian Investors were still able to access their accounts and therefore placed added pressure on the SC admin to close off all portals while negotiations were in progress ? It's always easy to see the negative aspect of any situation, however, analysing all possibilities towards a positive outlook is what make the Law of Attraction all that more visible. You reap what you sow. If you see the program as impeeding your progress, then expect the worst but if you see this as a temporary setback and that workings are in progress towards alleviating the problem, then anything is possible. Do keep in mind that SC has been perhaps one of few programs which has been performing well in access of 24 months. In that time, many people have achieved their financial goals and I have no reason to think that this situation will change. Keep a positive outlook with what you hope to achieve and anything or everything is possible. Forbe2.
Yup , always think positively and use this time to plan for the next move.
There are many people who are very negative over this forum but this is the nature of this forum , i do understand.
Swiss Cash does not want this to spoil their image either so please be patient.
Cheers! Serene Chea
swisscashforum
Jun 30 2007, 10:33 PM
QUOTE(KL-Flyer @ Jun 30 2007, 10:01 PM) [snapback]4229430[/snapback]
Sorry, I dun think so!! Dun always blame the so call "MY" 3rd party payment gateway! As I noticed, no such thing!! SC "appoint" their own ppl making the payment in M'sia. Blaming the 3rd party is one of their tricks.
Now, is not the matter of OMT. The key point is...... Can anyone tell the reason?WHY SISSCASH BLOCKED US FROM "SC MOBILE"? Sorry, I dun think so!! Dun always blame the so call "MY" 3rd party payment gateway! As I noticed, no such thing!! SC "appoint" their own ppl making the payment in M'sia. Blaming the 3rd party is one of their tricks.
Now, is not the matter of OMT. The key point is...... Can anyone tell the reason?WHY SISSCASH BLOCKED US FROM "SC MOBILE"?
Nobody is blaming. But its true fact most Malaysian dealers are not active anymore. Yes, money was used to be sent out by 'SMF'. From our forum which we did surveys and poll. Most investors participated from all over the world, have been receiving OMT from 3rd party since April.
A member from US posted in our forum, saying Amir is still active. Maybe you should try to reach him. Perhaps you will believe or trust someone from malaysia more.
pokerteller
Jun 30 2007, 11:04 PM
[quote name='KL-Flyer' date='Jun 30 2007, 10:11 PM' post='4229449'] Who is Who??
Albert Lee (Malaysian) is also known as "Swisscash Asian Tecnical Director". However, a lots people belives he is actually Swisscash Founder. Keep this photo, u may need it one day. incase!
Locatio: KL TOWER 2005 ( SC top meeting!)
I suppose only Malaysians knows well about Amir and Albert (maybe not so well as present situation is proving). So now you guys are speculatiing Albert Lee is the founder, and not Michael Mansfield? How sad to see people not trusting their own country men in general. Only Malayisans need their picture (for whatever purposes you might have in mind), as most investors from other countries are still very active.
If you are here to find the truth regarding MY accounts, believe the above 2 gentltmen can give you the best answers. Seems like you are here to try and finish off SC asap. If that is what you really want, I suggest to all the positive people here not to answer to your post. Be it in nice or aggressive way, you will never accept positive advices.
Being negative will end your life faster.....
paparaaaapa
Jun 30 2007, 11:18 PM
QUOTE(Dr Net @ Jun 30 2007, 08:23 AM) [snapback]4228336[/snapback]
What do MY investors do now
DDDBMMG = Duduk Diam-Diam Baca MMG
QUOTE(KL-Flyer @ Jun 30 2007, 10:11 PM) [snapback]4229449[/snapback]
Who is Who??
Albert Lee (Malaysian) is also known as "Swisscash Asian Tecnical Director". However, a lots people belives he is actually Swisscash Founder. Keep this photo, u may need it one day. incase!
Locatio: KL TOWER 2005 ( SC top meeting!)
Nice, so fat oledi ah? no wonder peopel said rich people is fat...uh...me too..need to get to gym liaw.
Forbe2
Jun 30 2007, 11:25 PM
I see no purpose in posting photos of leaders, the very same people who we will be relying on to resolve some of the issues which we are facing. It comes as no surprise that the leaders are hesitant to assist certain members when we should be trying to preserve their privacy, just as SC protects ours. Perhaps some people see this as a means of exposing those who have been active within the program but all the same, if we are to expect any resolution, we should be supporting not defaming our leaders as they are the ones who will be taking our case to the authorities. I wish that people would think first before acting. This is a blatant example of 'stupid sees as stupid does'. We want our leaders to assist us, yet do you think they will be willing to go out on a limb if we are prepared to expose them at the drop of a hat on the www. ? Forbe2. I should also add that I have met A.Hassan personally and he has always been a helpful and generous leader and has assisted many of thousands of people in his wide network. Just goes to proof how short some peoples memories are. Perhaps this image would explain my contempt at this exact moment : Does IMBECILE mean anything to you ?
I see no purpose in posting photos of leaders, the very same people who we will be relying on to resolve some of the issues which we are facing. It comes as no surprise that the leaders are hesitant to assist certain members when we should be trying to preserve their privacy, just as SC protects ours. Perhaps some people see this as a means of exposing those who have been active within the program but all the same, if we are to expect any resolution, we should be supporting not defaming our leaders as they are the ones who will be taking our case to the authorities. I wish that people would think first before acting. This is a blatant example of 'stupid sees as stupid does'. We want our leaders to assist us, yet do you think they will be willing to go out on a limb if we are prepared to expose them at the drop of a hat on the www. ? Forbe2. I should also add that I have met A.Hassan personally and he has always been a helpful and generous leader and has assisted many of thousands of people in his wide network. Just goes to proof how short some peoples memories are. Perhaps this image would explain my contempt at this exact moment : Does IMBECILE mean anything to you ?
Sorry, I dun see any leader is doing on their part. One of the top leader told me that 95% SC gone. prepare for the worst. He is not nobady in SC, he is the most famous e-point trader i Asia. what say u?
Anyway, im here just to sharing, u ppl can think watever u want. Im pretty sure SC ia gone!
I see no purpose in posting photos of leaders, the very same people who we will be relying on to resolve some of the issues which we are facing. It comes as no surprise that the leaders are hesitant to assist certain members when we should be trying to preserve their privacy, just as SC protects ours. Perhaps some people see this as a means of exposing those who have been active within the program but all the same, if we are to expect any resolution, we should be supporting not defaming our leaders as they are the ones who will be taking our case to the authorities. I wish that people would think first before acting. This is a blatant example of 'stupid sees as stupid does'. We want our leaders to assist us, yet do you think they will be willing to go out on a limb if we are prepared to expose them at the drop of a hat on the www. ? Forbe2. I should also add that I have met A.Hassan personally and he has always been a helpful and generous leader and has assisted many of thousands of people in his wide network. Just goes to proof how short some peoples memories are. Perhaps this image would explain my contempt at this exact moment : Does IMBECILE mean anything to you ?
This forum needs more of members like you who can really look into and analyse stuff in a more intellectual and learned way. After repeated reminders and persuasions, some investors just refused to assess and understand the whole thing. Perhaps they treat SC like any other conventional financial institutions which give them returns that is only good enough to cope with inflation. Or perhaps they are so used to MLM business that they are over dependent on uplines and too suspicious on people who genuinely offer help, for fear of losing downlines. That reminds me of all speeches made by Mr Michael Mansfield, they indeed make lots of sense!
In my opinion, the publishing of two gentlemen's photos is really uncalled for and an ungrateful act.. does not serve a purpose at all..and very damaging!
hanzahar
Jul 1 2007, 12:22 AM
QUOTE(mar @ Jun 29 2007, 11:06 AM) [snapback]4224047[/snapback]
My OMT approved 5/29 and still today I did not receive it
where u from?
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