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Trademark
Dear Users,

I'm lampe berger franchise. Going to be baron.. I just joined few weeks before. As i know, their marketing plan is much better than other MLM business.. Once you join lampe berger, u have to attend some classes.. From there u will know much more about Lampe Berger.. how do they works and how to approach others..

DUN TAKE IT WRONG.. Lampe berger is not selling products only. for example, NOT LIKE AMWAY.. in Amway, you have to sell their products. but in lampe berger, you can use other method. that is YOU HAVE TO SEARCH 5 DOWNLINES under you. once u have 5 ppl under u, u will be promoted as BARON.. and from every downline, u will get 10% when they join. After that, you can help ur downline to get 5 ppl under them if u want. or u just relax urself at home.. your downline will work for u. and u will keep on get commision and position. you just have to lead them.. thats all..

You can know much better about this company in this site..
http://lampeberger.products.com.my/

If u really looking for good income, just msg me. I'm sure u can be a millionaire one day. we will help you out.

If u have any questions, just reply the thread here or contact me personally..

Yahoo Messenger : silverstar_siva@yahoo.com
MSN Messenger : xtreme_siva@hotmail.com


I will explain more if u guys want. Just message me. Thanks..

Regards,
Siva
Inspirasi
QUOTE(Trademark @ Oct 21 2005, 12:44 PM)
Dear Users,

If u really looking for good income, just msg me. I'm sure u can be a millionaire one day. we will help you out.

Regards,
Siva
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Trademark
QUOTE(Inspirasi @ Oct 22 2005, 11:09 PM)
Keep us updated  dance9bh.gif  dance9bh.gif  post-69220-1110229459.gif  post-69220-1110229459.gif  clapping7.gif  clapping7.gif
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This is the right time to join it.. dun miss the chance..
Stephen3
LB just a money game,I've lot of frend spend more then RM10+ and earn nothing smile.gif
before join a mlm company must choose right smile.gif
Inspirasi
QUOTE(Trademark @ Oct 21 2005, 12:44 PM)
Dear Users,

If u really looking for good income, just msg me. I'm sure u can be a millionaire one day. we will help you out.

Regards,
Siva
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QUOTE(Trademark @ Oct 22 2005, 11:44 AM)
This is the right time to join it.. dun miss the chance..
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Keep us updated. We would love to meet the new millionaires dancing4dh.gif dancing4dh.gif dancing4dh.gif
potato85
I heard about this last few months and a few friends of mine asked me to join.
They told me I need to invest at least RM1000.

What really it is ? post-36326-1110185726.gif Can anyone leave more details ?

Thanks.
sooyeshun
It just another MLM
i've seen the plan,
do you know why some people paying like RM30k for products and become count?
its because they scared their downline better than them and overwrite them.
So, you think your upline will 100% help you?
he has to help 5 downlines as well.

When people bring you to lampe berger office, what he show you is bring you to those who success in MLM...saying that earning this much, that much
you never hear from the failure before. not everyone success.

in the society, only 5% are rich.
in lampe berger as well. they have established for 4 years.
now, when you enter you are the most below.
dont worry, when you ask them these question, they'll tackle you back because they've already know what question you are going to ask.

I was brought up once and being FORCED to enter ..first they ask you RM2345, later ask another RM30,000. If you dont have , RM10000. If not , ask you to re-fiance your vehicle or house.

I was brought into the place and feel the "TRAP" , the "SETUP"
if you want to be rich, just open your own firm.
MLM will make you rich only you go in as they established and work hard from there. They'll just show you all the success people , because they are the top.

I'm not trying to offence. But think outside the box when you read this.
When people trying to ask you join the MLM, your handphone just wouldnt stop ringing. or when you ask people to join, you call him nonstop. your friends runaway from you.
which side you want to be? call or being called for non stop..

Imagine calling someone who oweing you money, but he never pick up.
or you owe someone money but dont have money to pay..the "loan shark" keep calling?
Inspirasi
QUOTE(sooyeshun @ Oct 23 2005, 01:45 PM)
It just another MLM
i've seen the plan,
do you know why some people paying like RM30k for products and become count?
its because they scared their downline better than them and overwrite them.
So, you think your upline will 100% help you?
he has to help 5 downlines as well.

When people bring you to lampe berger office, what he show you is bring you to those who success in MLM...saying that earning this much, that much
you never hear from the failure before. not everyone success.

in the society, only 5% are rich.
in lampe berger as well. they have established for 4 years.
now, when you enter you are the most below.
dont worry, when you ask them these question, they'll tackle you back because they've already know what question you are going to ask.

I was brought up once and being FORCED to enter ..first they ask you RM2345, later ask another RM30,000. If you dont have , RM10000. If not , ask you to re-fiance your vehicle or house.

I was brought into the place and feel the "TRAP" , the "SETUP"
if you want to be rich, just open your own firm.
MLM will make you rich only you go in as they established and work hard from there. They'll just show you all the success people , because they are the top.

I'm not trying to offence. But think outside the box when you read this.
When people trying to ask you join the MLM, your handphone just wouldnt stop ringing. or when you ask people to join, you call him nonstop. your friends runaway from you.
which side you want to be? call or being called for non stop..

Imagine calling someone who oweing you money, but he never pick up.
or you owe someone money but dont have money to pay..the "loan shark" keep calling?
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Once beaten twice shy harhar.gif harhar.gif harhar.gif


potato85
So in other words, I am not going to make any profit if I don't recruit any downline?

My friends told me is a kind of investment and you will get your money back after a few years ?? What really the heck it is ?

They target a lot of youngsters who are studying in college or Uni coz simply easier to brainwash them ? I am kind of concern coz I worried most of my friends later fall into their 'trap'.

No way for me to invest RM1000 for some perfume. Rather invest some hyip or auto-surf. dancing4dh.gif
john_ngu
QUOTE(potato85 @ Oct 24 2005, 10:41 AM)
So in other words, I am not going to make any profit if I don't recruit any downline?

My friends told me is a kind of investment and you will get your money back after a few years ?? What really the heck it is ?

They target a lot of youngsters who are studying in college or Uni coz simply easier to brainwash them ? I am kind of concern coz I worried most of my friends later fall into their 'trap'.

No way for me to invest RM1000 for some perfume. Rather invest some hyip or auto-surf.  dancing4dh.gif
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If you do a search on the lamp berger products and oil online, you can buy them at a much lower price than those agents selling. Their products are 30% marked up relative to original price just to pay off the agents. That is why their oil so censored2.gif expensive.
Wong King Kuang
QUOTE(potato85 @ Oct 23 2005, 11:00 AM)
I heard about this last few months and a few friends of mine asked me to join.
They told me I need to invest at least RM1000.

What really it is ?  post-36326-1110185726.gif  Can anyone leave more details ? 

Thanks.
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that's rm1000 is not strange. my friends even ask me to consider rm20000 to enter silver or i not sure to join LampB.
Inspirasi
Getting more interesting here.

The heat is on..... clapping7.gif clapping7.gif clapping7.gif yahoo.gif yahoo.gif yahoo.gif
sooyeshun
When they "force" you to the LB office, what you hear is VERY EASY TO DO
EASY TO GET RICH, so and so richman's son doing, this doing, that also doing.
even Amber chia is doing, the problem is WHo cares!!
doesnt mean they do means you will get rich in there.
So easy to do, you ask them go do yourself, why keep "persuing" people to join? if its easy, people will persue you ask what you do to get rich, not you tell others and persue others. they often tells you "nvm, dont join is your lost, not mine"
tell them back "if everyone dont join, is your lost or mine?"
you go ebay.com and see how much is that thing cost, much much more.
and the commission gets to the upliner.
they get enough money, quickly buy BMW and show to you, all wear blazer, gucci tie, LV wallet.
You earn money all goes there cos you've been told by upline must buy that to show your success. but bank kosong.
youngster now like me wants to easy get rich, and then get fall into the trap.
ask parents for the money.
of course lah, your parents sayang you sure give you, even sell the car off. or mortgage the house.
think wisely. See how many people doing there. each force downline to pay RM30k.
Yes, you can get rich, if you are the founder.
you still work for others!!!
they keep saying its business, its business
i)you work for your upline
ii) you compete with so many thousands people there.
iii)your business remains in malaysia not international.

Dont nuts, think twice.
See people who suffering in failing. dont keep looking at success people. if you think you can be success as that, you must learn from failures ,but your upline dont let you meet failures.
Inspirasi
QUOTE(sooyeshun @ Oct 29 2005, 01:53 PM)
When they "force" you to the LB office, what you hear is VERY EASY TO DO
EASY TO GET RICH, so and so richman's son doing, this doing, that also doing.
even Amber chia is doing, the problem is WHo cares!!
doesnt mean they do means you will get rich in there.
So easy to do, you ask them go do yourself, why keep "persuing" people to join? if its easy, people will persue you ask what you do to get rich, not you tell others and persue others. they often tells you "nvm, dont join is your lost, not mine"
tell them back "if everyone dont join, is your lost or mine?"
you go ebay.com and see how much is that thing cost, much much more.
and the commission gets to the upliner.
they get enough money, quickly buy BMW and show to you, all wear blazer, gucci tie, LV wallet.
You earn money all goes there cos you've been told by upline must buy that to show your success. but bank kosong.
youngster now like me wants to easy get rich, and then get fall into the trap.
ask parents for the money.
of course lah, your parents sayang you sure give you, even sell the car off. or mortgage the house.
think wisely. See how many people doing there. each force downline to pay RM30k.
Yes, you can get rich, if you are the founder.
you still work for others!!!
they keep saying its business, its business
i)you work for your upline
ii) you compete with so many thousands people there.
iii)your business remains in malaysia not international.

Dont nuts, think twice.
See people who suffering in failing. dont keep looking at success people. if you think you can be success as that, you must learn from failures ,but your upline dont let you meet failures.
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Hear hear clapping7.gif clapping7.gif clapping7.gif thumbup(1).gif thumbup(1).gif thumbup(1).gif
Wong King Kuang
hmm..seems not only me got nightmare unsure.gif
kof
QUOTE(john_ngu @ Oct 25 2005, 12:03 PM)
If you do a search on the lamp berger products and oil online, you can buy them at a much lower price than those agents selling. Their products are 30% marked up relative to original price just to pay off the agents. That is why their oil so  censored2.gif  expensive.
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30% marked up?? i believed to be 200-300% mark up 4.gif

if not mistaken, coz it's MLM.... like 3x9 matrix, and the commission is super high, all ur upline and uplines on top got paid, if level 4 or 5, can get like 42-45% commission per sales from downline... WTF...

i was also a victim for buying the stupid shampoosss from LB. actually they wan me to buy many shampoossssss. why so many ssss?? that is the quantity lor... keekeke

owh, by the way, the prefume really smell bad, my gf cannot breathe and got headache.

the member entry fee is RM2345, sux.... if i let it compound in ST for a yr, i will probably get to level RM20k oledi diablo.gif
Riskyinvest
This a big scam. I hear that people get burn testing their product. I also hear that they have court case in Hong Kong.

Their products are lacked of quality, they are focusing only on the member fee. Once they suck enough cash from the bottom, they will go to another country and do the same.

Not for long, their members will soon lodge a report to police as Hong Kong.

Mr.noob
WT``.... stil MLM ?
for me all put in ST lah. no need ask ppl for buy product or become ur downline.. or what.. if u goto do MLM. ur scare all ur friend around u and even ur parent, saudara all also...
because them dont understand the concept of this MLM..
MLM business can do. but once u step inside ur like change to other person. ur talking stayle.. and other acting. all different already because of $.... $ is the factor cause like that... and u want to become higher position... then u get the pride... all this stuck u in a big big deep hole...
IF join ST u just ask best friend if them dont believe if them losing this vey good chance... even now i join ST for so long i no simple ask friend to join. because he must know what he doing before enter..
dont forgot is ur offer he. u are offerer. no like MLM ask pls` or b** them to join.

ST or online earn $ is new generation of $ maker. goto do more research about this topic.
In oversea them dont do MLM already. all aim for e-business. (internet business)

i here no mean to hurt anyone or boom any brand of MLM. But the fact is MLM time is out..
e-invest or e-business will be a future..

for me MLM or amway. lampa.b, elken...or what even lah. them concept is a bit same as ST. IF u got do search about it. u will know... i here hard to explain for it..

btw, just advise do internet marketing or investment or business. what even. but i very sure is internet is the future for new people.
Inspirasi
QUOTE(Riskyinvest @ Nov 2 2005, 07:05 AM)
I hear that people get burn testing their product.
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Get ready a First Aid Kit everytime you need to test their product harhar.gif rofl4.gif
TunIqbal
QUOTE(Inspirasi @ Nov 6 2005, 03:38 AM)
Get ready a First Aid Kit everytime you need to test their product  harhar.gif  rofl4.gif
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What happened to TradeMark aka Siva who promoted this so called business? Ran off already is it? Who chose the wrong avenue to promote this MLM.

For me, MLM ain't the way to go...it's only a VERY SMALL Precentage who make it.

I just DON'T LIKE THE IDEA to bug my friends, family, neighbors, strangers, so that I can generate money....

Looking at the way Siva is promoting it, sounds more like a Skim Cepat Kaya aka GET RICH QUICK SCHEME rather than an MLM business.

Autosurf's are alot better, you can earn WITHOUT ANY downlines, unlike MLM, no downlines NO INCOME. That just sux!
Inspirasi
QUOTE(TunIqbal @ Nov 6 2005, 02:13 AM)
What happened to TradeMark aka Siva who promoted this so called business? Ran off already is it?
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bryon
no thanks
i have read the truth
yurica
QUOTE(bryon @ Dec 17 2005, 03:48 PM)
no thanks
i have read the truth
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same to me
It must be post-69220-1110229459.gif post-69220-1110229459.gif post-69220-1110229459.gif
..good luck guys.
espionage
LB is just a headhunter for good....when you join. just get 5 person in and you are ok. then if u want more, u need to invest 30k and every downline of u will deducted 35% of every each. let say 30k of 35 is 10k. 10 person would be 100k.......what a nice tactic.
Inspirasi
QUOTE(espionage @ Dec 18 2005, 05:11 PM)
LB is just a headhunter for good....when you join. just get 5 person in and you are ok. then if u want more, u need to invest 30k and every downline of u will deducted 35% of every each. let say 30k of 35 is 10k. 10 person would be 100k.......what a nice tactic.
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5 generous donors? tongue4.gif


yurica
QUOTE(Inspirasi @ Dec 19 2005, 11:53 PM)
5 generous donors?  tongue4.gif
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even i do have the money, i wouldn't choose to be that 'generous' way doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
enigma
QUOTE(espionage @ Dec 19 2005, 08:11 AM)
LB is just a headhunter for good....when you join. just get 5 person in and you are ok. then if u want more, u need to invest 30k and every downline of u will deducted 35% of every each. let say 30k of 35 is 10k. 10 person would be 100k.......what a nice tactic.
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that seems to be their formula for success but the 'investment' amount too big and not everyone will be able to tahan... no wonder some of the LB'ers will have teh until 3 or 4 am to close a deal
espionage
ya.....tea until 3-4am..........drive bmw but cant spend a single tea tarik oso
Inspirasi
QUOTE(espionage @ Dec 19 2005, 05:30 PM)
ya.....tea until 3-4am..........drive bmw but cant spend a single tea tarik oso
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Maybe they can join the 'tea tarik' competition tongue4.gif
yurica
In fact, network marketing is actually a good business to start with and also to practice yourself to get into a real place of educating with the real business matters instead of learnig the theory whereby u normally learn in business school or college.

But in addition, there are too many network marketing company nowadays and therefore, its now back on the individual to make judgement whether or not to join the respective network marketing company that is approaching them.

B4 joining a network marketing, we normally will look at their product, the marketing plan and then the organization(company background), but tehre is 1 thing more important is that if the company also giving a good education on training them to face mistakes and losses instead of always urged them to sell the company's product and looking for new members(downline) to join them and put a big sum of money to invest usually give alot of promises with attractive figures of income.for example in LB I oftenly read and heard that... 'normally' only those invest big will get the better and best return. Do put in mind, that not all ppls could efford such big amount of investment (likely to be RM2345 or 10k or else, 30k, or if not enough, go for refinance ur asset or may be even their so called asset which is in fact it is a liability).

so take a time, think carefully b4 joining a network marketing company whether it is worth in form of their fee, their product (easier for the distributor to sell the product if they have good product line in my point of view) and also an outstanding company background and finally giving a great motivation to the members(not simply urge them to sell sell sell product!!!) but teach them how to learn from mistake and from that i think some1 always may improve themself and also increase their selfconfident and indirectly will boost up their sales ability!

SO that wat I think the truly good network marketing that suppose to be!!!! happy.gif
espionage
u are half right and half wrong.

u gain something but sometimes, those people are really annoying and critisize you being stupid or not successful in the life. They are trying to trap on you this way to let you join to be successful like them. This is the most i hate.

It is wasting time too. Just imaging. When coming back home from stressful work. Need to entertain those members until 1-3am. This is ridiculous.
Inspirasi
QUOTE(yurica @ Dec 20 2005, 01:43 PM)
In fact, network marketing is actually a good business to start with and also to practice yourself to get into a real place of educating with the real business matters instead of learnig the theory whereby u normally learn in business school or college.

But in addition, there are too many network marketing company nowadays and therefore, its now back on the individual to make judgement whether or not to join the respective network marketing company that is approaching them.

B4 joining a network marketing, we normally will look at their product, the marketing plan and then the organization(company background), but tehre is 1 thing more important is that if the company also giving a good education on training them to face mistakes and losses instead of always urged them to sell the company's product and looking for new members(downline) to join them and put a big sum of money to invest usually give alot of promises with attractive figures of income.for example in LB I oftenly read and heard that... 'normally' only those invest big will get the better and best return. Do put in mind, that not all ppls could efford such big amount of investment (likely to be RM2345 or 10k or else, 30k, or if not enough, go for refinance ur asset or may be even their so called asset which is in fact it is a liability).

so take a time, think carefully b4 joining a network marketing company whether it is worth in form of their fee, their product (easier for the distributor to sell the product if they have good product line in my point of view) and also an outstanding company background and finally giving a great motivation to the members(not simply urge them to sell sell sell product!!!) but teach them how to learn from mistake and from that i think some1 always may improve themself and also increase their selfconfident and indirectly will boost up their sales ability!

SO that wat I think the truly good network marketing that suppose to be!!!!  happy.gif
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You need to practice smiling from ear to ear.

Might want to consider plastic surgery tongue4.gif
yurica
QUOTE(Inspirasi @ Dec 22 2005, 01:37 AM)
You need to practice smiling from ear to ear.

Might want to consider plastic surgery  tongue4.gif
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smile.gif smile.gif
If you don't see the power of network, then u will lose the opportunity in making money
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espionage
making money is just a scam
Inspirasi
QUOTE(yurica @ Dec 21 2005, 03:19 PM)
smile.gif  smile.gif
If you don't see the power of network, then u will lose the opportunity in making money
wave.gif  wave.gif
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The more you smile the more power you attract tongue4.gif user posted image

yurica
QUOTE(Inspirasi @ Dec 23 2005, 12:35 AM)
The more you smile the more power you attract  tongue4.gif user posted image
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lol, thanks happy.gif
but i still love to smile tongue4.gif
espionage
can u post the pic of ur smiling?
yurica
QUOTE(espionage @ Dec 23 2005, 01:20 PM)
can u post the pic of ur smiling?
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harhar.gif you must be joking happy.gif tongue4.gif
Inspirasi
QUOTE(yurica @ Dec 22 2005, 12:27 PM)
lol, thanks  happy.gif
but i still love to smile  tongue4.gif
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Some smiles can melt the heart blush.gif

user posted image

yurica
QUOTE(Inspirasi @ Dec 24 2005, 02:29 AM)
Some smiles can melt the heart  blush.gif

user posted image
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lol, nothing to do with MLM.....out of topic tongue4.gif harhar.gif
Inspirasi
QUOTE(yurica @ Dec 23 2005, 11:05 AM)
lol, nothing to do with MLM.....out of topic  tongue4.gif  harhar.gif
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Hmmmmm...... tongue4.gif user posted image

user posted image
yurica
Is LB still hot in cities like KL? how's those members who with LB marketing plan so far? There a lot bad news about them i heard, specially in HK........ dry.gif dry.gif
ryanhkn
Less than 1% of Malaysian population in this LB business, those in LB business mostly are former MLM members as well. I guess there's still an "untouch" market for LB they are yet to "cheat" base on the rewarding plan.

So yurica, what's the bad news about LB that you heard?
yurica
QUOTE(ryanhkn @ Dec 26 2005, 10:00 AM)
Less than 1% of Malaysian population in this LB business, those in LB business mostly are former MLM members as well. I guess there's still an "untouch" market for LB they are yet to "cheat" base on the rewarding plan.

So yurica, what's the bad news about LB that you heard?
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Harmful product , skin got burned shocking.gif rofl4.gif
Consumers made complaint to consumers society and take the police agency into attention. I read the news somewhere in HK website, not so sure about it, but its would drag LB product freaking the current consumers(in my point of view). unsure.gif unsure.gif
Inspirasi
Hmmmmm........user posted image tongue4.gif rofl4.gif
idzen
I,

Has LB any connectiong with BA? Just curious

thanks
ryanhkn
idzen,

Yes, both are from France apparently. 2 of this group spin out (heard from other source) from family business, LB itself focus on aroma theraphy while BA focus on aroma theraphy + medicare + air refreshment.

Recently LB decided to shift their strategy into retail which will kill thousands of member/agent. It is disasterous LB will make this move, which mean their product is available everywhere like 7-eleven already, cut through the members.

I'd attended BA training yesterday, I'm motivated by their concept of success eventhough their product is so so to me (still sellable lar). I guess I'll just step in and give a try. peace.gif

I'm not greedy, just need 5 downline. If I got extra headcount, I will give it to my downline to built their network. If anyone want to join me for the next speech (a guy who used to be a financial advisor from different banks) around KL, please PM me. No commitment, join base on your free-will.

Thanks.
tekeitho
QUOTE
30% marked up?? i believed to be 200-300% mark up 4.gif

if not mistaken, coz it's MLM.... like 3x9 matrix, and the commission is super high, all ur upline and uplines on top got paid, if level 4 or 5, can get like 42-45% commission per sales from downline... WTF...


thumbup(1).gif agreed
Inspirasi
Hmmmmm........user posted image harhar.gif
Nicholaz
QUOTE(sooyeshun @ Oct 30 2005, 04:53 AM) [snapback]528968[/snapback]

When they "force" you to the LB office, what you hear is VERY EASY TO DO
EASY TO GET RICH, so and so richman's son doing, this doing, that also doing.
even Amber chia is doing, the problem is WHo cares!!
doesnt mean they do means you will get rich in there.
So easy to do, you ask them go do yourself, why keep "persuing" people to join? if its easy, people will persue you ask what you do to get rich, not you tell others and persue others. they often tells you "nvm, dont join is your lost, not mine"
tell them back "if everyone dont join, is your lost or mine?"
you go ebay.com and see how much is that thing cost, much much more.
and the commission gets to the upliner.
they get enough money, quickly buy BMW and show to you, all wear blazer, gucci tie, LV wallet.
You earn money all goes there cos you've been told by upline must buy that to show your success. but bank kosong.
youngster now like me wants to easy get rich, and then get fall into the trap.
ask parents for the money.
of course lah, your parents sayang you sure give you, even sell the car off. or mortgage the house.
think wisely. See how many people doing there. each force downline to pay RM30k.
Yes, you can get rich, if you are the founder.
you still work for others!!!
they keep saying its business, its business
i)you work for your upline
ii) you compete with so many thousands people there.
iii)your business remains in malaysia not international.

Dont nuts, think twice.
See people who suffering in failing. dont keep looking at success people. if you think you can be success as that, you must learn from failures ,but your upline dont let you meet failures.


Hi 'sooyeshun', may i know where r u from?
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