Well be unhappy somewhere else. Go play with your pet mouse or scratch at your scratching pole

NO i WANT be right here letting the new who are thinking about this site to know the truth not what you recruiters want to tell them the forum is for members of the site to voice there opinion and I am a member so dont tell me go elsewhere I wish someone had warned me early so I could known

What and how did you withdraw? THIS SITE IS A SCAMMMMMMMMMM 1 week almost two weeks offline with all sorts upgraded server and new site look yet they couldnt even take the time to put in the left columm a place for with drawing and now another week and nothing no money! PEOPLE DONT INVEST HERE THIS SITE IS A SCAM PERIOD YOU WILL NEVER MAKE MONEY DONT INVEST AND THERES BEEN STORY AFTER STORY LATELY, AND LOOK AT THE EMAILS SAME ONES JUST REPETING AND NOW THE LATEST NO PAYOUTS BECAUSE HES NOW GONNA STEAL ALL YOUR GOLD YOU MAIL HIM. He states never been so excites heard that one about 2 weeks ago and all I can say is dont spend your cash here I am once again made nothing on my 320.00 now after over 2 months I have a total of around 350.00 ventures which are worthless under the cashout policy I go in the red this is utterly rediculous and this site needs be moved to scamm section and I betcha wont be long and it will be! I for one am a very unhappy cat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I sick hearing about the gold site as well why would that have a bearing on this one if its doing so great and he gets the gold before he even pays you for it so where is the money? I telling you this site robs the poor and Steve and his crew are going to end up with everyones cash and now he taking your jewelery as well, better lock up your wife and kids before he trys get them

Oh my thank you for the laugh! Didn't I tell ya we could expect to hear from you know who? Just wait there's more coming!

Fast surf today.

Concerning the %, this is no surprise because Steve told us that it would fluctuate because of buying gold. It will raise again.

This kind of thing will only show us the true supporters from the ones that like to post negative or only when things are going their way.

You got that right jackson! I gonna treat this the way its suppose be done stop the unknowns from getting in and losing. LOOK POSSIBLE NEW MEMBERS HERE IS THE EMAIL FROM THE ADMIN HE SENDS SAME ONE EVERY WEEK NOTICE HOW HE STRESSES THE POINT OF 15% COMMISSION AND THATS THE REASON 99% IN HERE ARE SAYING THIS SITE SO GREAT HOPING YOU BE STUPID ENOUGH LIKE ME TO PUT YOUR HARD EARNED CASH IN HERE. READ THIS EXCERPT FROM TODAYS EMAIL.

(The other thing that fascinates me about the program is recruiting. Our recruiters are making a ton of income, we pay 15% - yes, that is righ - 15% and we pay that on new upgrades and rollover earnings. Nobody is paying that way - period! You know what is even better? YOU do not have to recruit at all if you don't want to in this marketing program in order to share the revenue - it's just another method of earning within the membership.
)

I only have 1 member in my downline. And I am not advertising this site. so basically I'm not a recruiter. So don't call me one. Just be happy you got anything at all. And now you are basically spamming the forum by posting the same exact thing over and over that you have already posted.

I have a question for you. You seem to change you mind each week about this program choritzo. One week you cashed out your full earnings after and complained it was scam then. But then you sent in a support ticket so you could reverse or send back in the funds. If site was such a scam why do that.? Why do you keep investing in it?

Why not just cash out your full earnings each week and go if site is such a scam to? I don't understand you at all. You say scam but invest. And then say scam again when you don't get the amount of earnings you want. You are a very confusing and difficult person

I know there's more coming.

I got the same earnings as last week keeping 100% rollover.
It is not «good» do not keep under control so vital thing as earnings.
A real business does not allow mistaskes - let us eliminate them.

I'm almost thinking that Steve set the payout at 3.5% this week just for them! Time to shake out the chaff!

Could be

I'm just happy I still got something instead of nothing. I still earned $2 and some change.

So what's going on?

I saw a very low income early today and then I see the 14% income. I did a withdrawal with the 14% income (49% I withdraw as always).

Did Steve try to pay out less this week and was hammered for it? And he raised the income level again back to 14%?

Edit: I understand now as I see the lower interest again. It looks like it's jumping up and down today. I sent in a ticket hoping that my withdrawal is canceled so as not to lose my ventures. This stinks. No real warning whatsoever.

Regarding the higher 'Weekly Earnings' some of us are seeing. Reply to support ticket:

Hannah Brandt Replied 2009-08-25 10:13:29
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You may have been seeing last week's earnings still. If you continue, please delete your cookies and restart your browser. Thanks!

Choritzo,

If you learned to add you might actually make some money on your investments. You state that you put $320 into Adv's. $320 earns you over $40 a week which means you could withdraw $20+ each week. At $20+ for two months you would have put $160+ in your pocket which is half your original spend. So tell me how they scam you with those kinds of returns.

This is why everyone needs to read through the negative posters as most of them have no clue what they are saying or talking about.

A lot of people, I sure, are dealing with this issue. I withdrew, validated, came here to read the thread. Went back to the site and saw the changes. I, too, thought I was withdrawing 50%. Not so. Hope Steve cancels mine, too.

Who you stroking? I havnt cashed a dime out! and I telling you I surf and everything and i ma at 350.00 and thats after 2 months so quit telling me how much I should have made sounds like you saying I am a liar and thats far far from reality. Only ones making money is the promoters are you telling me that I should be making 40.00 a week? If so where is it? I not full of bolonga as my account never sees 40.00 and this week cant even find any profit?


WHERES THE WEEKLY EARNINGS FOR THE PAST WEEK? CASHOUT REQUEST WHERES IT AT MY ACCOUNT HAS NONE SHOWING THIS WEEK SO QUIT PICKING ON ME FOR BEING HONEST!

I requested a cashout but when I realized that this week's earnings is less, I sent a support ticket and asked to cancel my request. I got an answer from Hanna that it has been cancelled.
Even if we earn less for a while, this is a very good program and there is no need to panic.

Good* Day surfluv, i like your positive thinking it helps..

When did u see a cashout button? Also where is the earnings shown for this week before it was under purchases come on all you saying this why I dont see it and yes I am complaing after 2 months why dont you all send into Steve and tell him just refund my account, I can live with that! Sure beats not making any money!

What !! And let you miss all the fun of waiting 14 weeks to get your money back like anyone else ? No way .... you made your bed and now you've got to sleep in it.

FYI, earnings are normally shown under the heading "Weekly earnings" but I think because of the confusion in the site alternating between showing last week's earnings and then this week's earnings they might have taken it off for a while and will put it back again later once that's sorted out.

Taken care of. Thanks, Hannah!

The cashout form is here: http://ad-ventures4u.com/purchases.php

I just saw weekly earnings under the heading "Weekly earnings 8-24-09!!!". Go there and you can see your earnings for the week.

Choritzo, at $350 level you can safely withdraw $6 this week with no penalties. You should try it.

Choritzo,
I'm really trying my hardest, but I am failing to understand what your motivation is here. You have a vested interest in seeing this program succeed because you have money in it, but you spend all your energy trying to knock it down. By badmouthing the program you're only hurting yourself. It's like buying stock in a company then doing all in your power to make the stocks decrease in value. It doesn't make any sense. We all want this to succeed and should do all we can to help it do that.

And I can't really believe that after two months you're still so ignorant about how the site works. I've only been a member for a month or so and have it pretty much figured out. You really can't find where the cashout button is? After all I've read where people try to explain this to you, you still don't know what the process is for computing your earnings and rolling over? I don't buy it.

I don't think you're being honest at all. I think you're purposely posting comments that get a rise out of people because you get entertainment from it. I think it's best from now on if everyone pretends the posts by you don't exist. It's what I intend to do starting now.

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@choritzo if you still dont find it post your memberno and we can find it for you


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Requested cash out and rolling some.

f.y.i.

At the current earnings level of 3.5%,

you will need 286 Ventures to withdraw the minimum of $5.00

Hope this helps.


Muggy

You are NOT being honest about this. Up until now, this site has been paying about 14% a week. If you started out with $320, your earnings after one week would be $44.8. Half of that is added to your venture total, 22.4. 22.4 + 320 = 342.4. Week 2, 342.4 x 14% = 47.936, rounded up 47.94. Again, roll over half, 23.97. Add that to your total from last week, 342.4, and your total ventures are 366.37. As you can see, after only 2 weeks, you already have over 366 ventures. So, who are YOU stroking??

Oh... you don't even know how to request cashout or where you can see your earnings?
Well, click on "purchase" on the left and scroll down a bit and fill in the form and hit "submit", that's it.
The earnings are under System messages, now in the bottom line.

Not too much negavity here, so far at least.

However I didn't bother to read Choritzo's posts, as I knew what to expect.


Given the history of Ad-Ventures4u, its ground breaking nature and Steve's unique leadership style, I think we have little choice but to trust him,and hope that he knows what he is doing. I am generally not one for placing much trust in the administrators of online money programs, but in this case I'm willing to make an exception, until I'm proved wrong.

So let's give Steve the benefit of the doubt that many of us may be feeling, and continue to support this program.


Best regards to all, including Choritzo



Will.

Thanks for all your uplifting posts MMG7.

If this gold sight really takes off there will be more people than ever clamoring to get started with Ad-V. I have read a lot of negative posts in here today. I believe it is best to reserve judgment. This could turn into a win, win situation with added revenue from the gold site, and added revenue from more people than ever upgrading to get a piece of the action.

I ask everyone to consider this before posting.

God Bless! Nate

Update email I got from ad4u:


I know that there are members looking into the Negative but I just won't lower myself to do it. I am looking out for your future and I know that I am doing the right thing.

The % is what is needed to grow us into the long term goals I have. I have never ever done anything to hurt the program and will not start now. I did not build this to end tomorrow but to be here forever. Upgrades are still coming in from allot of members that see the vision and that is what I am focused on.

We have been sharing 100% of the earnings for weeks and will continue to share until we get the gold refined and the money moved back into the business. We are purchasing large amounts of advertising and gold. That is what is needed to move us back to where we were and more.

We are not hurting like some people think, matter of a fact we are as strong or stronger than ever. But in order to put all the pieces that is needed together for our future all might have to see a change for a short time. Put it this way, if we don't move our business in this direction we will be just like the rest and that is gone in months.

We will be here when all the rest is gone, and we will offer the best advertising site on the net plus have the other income supporting us for years to come.

What you do today will reflect your future is my belief and that is exactly what our goal is.

If you don't see it I am sorry and just surf and pull your earnings out. I am ok with that and you will see that over time your will earn no matter when you joined unlike all the others.

GO to http://ad-venturs4u.com and click on purchase ventures and start sharing today because next year we will be here and moving forward, thanks So Much. Steve Smith

Cloritzo seems very pleased today. He is very happy when he can be more negative than ever. I notice Cloritzo has a new 12% daily pay site posted to scam people with though. They never last long. Boy, will his referrals get taken there. Hmmm,.... a real humanitarian, yep!


Nate

I dont see system messages but I refreshed the cache and then a request for payout appeared this site got a lot of kinks so I requested 10.00 now out of 350.00 ventu Wres wouldnt you think I would have at least 10.00?

Edited

350 x 1.75% (50% of 3.50%) = $6.13

you requested over 50%.

It looks like your not intersting in getting help in this matter, so please if you dont manage to navigate on the site or dont understand how this site is working and still dont want to get help, let us know.

Please read #20 on the faq's page of ADV4U website.

I know there are no guarantees. It's about consideration. Steve is forever touting doing what is right and in a timely manner for everyone's concern.

Go back and read his volumes of emails.

I dont think thats right as now I messed up again as I sent in a request for 10.00 measly dollars because I seen no place that shows my earnings and then I read the other post says I could withdraw 6.00 so I get penalized again for lack on admins part to properly display the correct imformation. Lookm if I dont complain and bring to light what do you think others are trying figure it out they let me because they dont want to be screamed at by you all for posting there concerns. I just doing my part as I see a mess here for the past 3 weeks instead of messing around trying get everybodys gold and jewelry he should have had this site fully functional after all this man has taken in millions so why not have your Ps and Qs in the right order before launching a site that has now taken away the profits too make this one viable? I seeing that just around the corner we make nothing as thats what Ive made so far absolutely zero dollars have I gotten back, and yes I am in other sites that maybe not paying like a clock but at least I am getting something and thats more than I can say here. by the way my account number here is xx260 in case some ones refund me? I go away with just my seed money back because I am smart enough to know that there is no future here for me as after over 2 months nothing in my til Ive seen enough to know the hand writing on the wall keep compounding or as its put to us leveraging, well the only one who makes it is Steve and the promoters and the peeps like me end up losing all we invest eventually. You want to blame me I dont think so I just see and know whats up as the past 3 weeks this site has been in total disaray and anyone who has a brain can realize that this is the site that the house that jack built and its payouts should have been numero uno even during the change over as its really not that hard to do with his programmer. You can call me whatever you want but the truth of the matter is you all know that I am right this site is not being handled professionally.

Please let's stop directly quoting our good friend choritzo. Do you not realize that this is exactly what they want us to do? Ignore this xxx

OK got that off my chest!

Today I spent 30 minutes on the phone with the lawyer, Frank, that helped Steve set AV4U up and incorporated the biz in Panama. Don't worry about the threats you read here about trying to shut AV4U down, that ain't gonna happen.
Now I will tell you that Frank did state that Steve made an error, and he let him know it, in not keeping us more 'in the loop' regarding the need to capitalize the gold site and the resulting(temporary)reduction in R/S earnings.

Steve's error was in thinking that 'Pro' members would understand and support the need to create an additional outside income source that would ensure the longevity of AV4U. It would seem that Steve believed that the 'Pro' members were thinking of the long term viability, as I did, rather than short term high returns.

Don't you realize that NO R/S program can last depending only on member upgrades? Sure Steve could have left things as they were and for a few more months we could have all posted 'I got another payout, thanks' but that could not last forever. Steve took the steps, as he always said he would, to make AV4U the premier earning site on the Internet.

AV4U started something that is changing the face of advertising, even Google now has incorporated 'Social Advertising' in it's business strategy. So what are you in for? Looking for a 'get rich quick' scheme? You've come to the wrong place!
Let me state plainly, no let me qoute the AV4U website(which from too many of the posts here it is obvious that many have not even looked at it!):

NOTICE WE MOVED TO PANAMA FEB 1ST-2009 YOU ARE NOT GUARANTEED ANY INCOME--YOU ARE PURCHASING ADVERTISING

Are you looking for a program and an admin that is looking out for both the program's best interest and yours as well? Then this is where you belong, if not you need to start cashing out all your earnings and chase the rainbow!

On a further note: It is my recommendation that Steve close the program to new members, and I do think that will eventually happen. Secondly accept no new members that don't upgrade, third give free members 10 days to become 'Pro' or delete their account, and forth keep doing what you're doing!

Hang in there AV4U loyalist, the road ahead is full of promise and opportunity!

Just who are you? You talk to lawyers about this site? No wonder you jump my rearend as you part owner of this site look just refund me and I out of here! I have as much right as anyone post my opinions in this thread as I am a bobafide member here. So quit chastizing me for posting it the way I see it and I am not making any threats as far as putting anyone out of business maybe I should go back and see if someone else is a unhappy member cause I didnt post anything like that.

I don't understand which kind of maths some people are doing here ? Also you would cashout only $ 7 ( at 14% earnings weekly ) from always compounded earning with a $ 40 principal since March

the fact that you have now around $ 4300 of ventures in your account is due to those people that you like to offend, means those that really get only $ 7 after 24 weeks with a $ 40 start capital - to take your example -, they make you earn 15% net on their upgrades and rollovers every week
so maybe we should be a little more understanding if possible, especially because the key people in the forums are telling us the opposite from that which you read in the FAQ about the earnings....
if the cheerleaders and admin take seriously the problem of the non-recruiter with their small earnings then the site will grow, if their is arrogance the site has no future...

As a person who has been self employed for going on 25 years, I know how careful steering of cash flow is needed when launching a new aspect of your business. The new aspect of a business is needed to insure the business continues to grow and be stronger in the future. In the case of a new business like trading cash for gold, there is a need to have x$ on hand to get both the business up and running in terms of advertising and to have the reserves on hand to purchase the gold.

In a traditional business, this can be handled by having credit lines extended to you through your bank. However, to insure this credit line, collateral pledges have to be made. I.E. Hard assets of your business and or personal assets. For an online business such as Ad-Ventures4U, there is no luxury of a hard asset that would be favourably viewed by any bank and no one can expect Steve to pledge his personal assets.

There is no choice but to use cash reserves and new sales. IMO, Steve is building this business for the long haul.
Diversifying in to a cash for gold business at this time and in this economy is IMO, the right thing to do. The structure of this business is a revenue share, this gives him the flexibility to do what he is doing right now. The lag time right now by presenting lower earnings is I am sure, timed well by Steve. To propel this business on to highly stable ground. For me, I am willing to take a little less right now for a well secured future. Just think of how much easier it will be to promote this business to others when you have a cash for gold venture backing it.

William

The way you see it, is totally different from the way most members, who are serious!, see it, that's the big problem you have!
This is not your program, so please take your money out, ask Steve for a refund and go to those other programs wherein you will get rich quick (

Thineke

Heres what mine says why would mine be different than yours?

Last 7 Days Surf
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ad-ventures Chat
How to avoid surfing problems

So now I going lose again and whatever you all want to say this site is not very user friendly! I never seen no earnings listed for my account this week and now you tell me that I over requested this is why I get so upset with this site its not that I am stupid you know and saying bad things like calling me a idiot is totally unacceptable and I notice hula was reading this thread and I would think she should chatise mmg7 for his slandering post against me.

Hi Steve,

Can members who cashed out to STP have their payments sent to AlertPay instead? (provided they have an AlertPay account set up).

Please let us know

Thanks,
Joe

Never heard of a support ticket? You won't lose if you play the game right .

Thineke

Oh my god cholitzo is back... I really missed your talk and I am sure gonna have a ball here.... So I see you are still stuck with your 350 and can't withdraw .... Boo hoo hoo... Get a life.... I wish you all the best in getting your funds out.... I will be cashing out faster then you can breath...