I was convinced that she was running a solid site & that she had revenue coming in from over 30,000 sites......I went against my usual standards & reinvested more than I should have........I always have taken out my initial upgrade ASAP & then go back in with profits........I was so convinced that this one was here to stay for awhile ........that I was trying to gain back some of my other losses real fast........I am out over $2,500 from Stormy Scam........I do hope that Terra is tracked down & made to repay any of us who have lost funds in this scheme........
Definately we can hope.. but pure hoping is no use.. if you are a canadian, track her down... if you are not, then we can only hope aimlessly...
atlantic-rose
May 2 2006, 08:00 PM
QUOTE(OxySheaGirl @ May 2 2006, 04:02 PM) [snapback]2029092[/snapback]
I don't know if this helps or not, but if you are verified by Alertpay and EMO, you must send in a picture id such as drivers liscense or passport along with bank statement and some kind of bill with your address on it. When I sent money to stormy surf through EMO, her name came up Terralee Theissen and I figured she must be honest to use her real name and her picture ID. I know we can't do much about EMO, but Alertpay must have a copy of a picture ID and address and bank statement. Just for the record. I do hope we can accomplish something. God bless all..
If she used a picture ID it may have been her Driver's Licence, which would certainly help authorities trace.
atlantic-rose
May 2 2006, 08:46 PM
QUOTE(atlantic-rose @ May 3 2006, 12:00 AM) [snapback]2031365[/snapback]
If she used a picture ID it may have been her Driver's Licence, which would certainly help authorities trace.
Also, there is a Terra Theissen listed as a member of phpfreaks.com since Nov. 2005 with location given as Winnipeg, Canada.
rugimulu
May 2 2006, 09:12 PM
So there are some clues here to track that bicch down.. i can;t wait to see her face here..
OxySheaGirl
May 2 2006, 09:15 PM
QUOTE(Moneybundles @ May 2 2006, 10:27 PM) [snapback]2030901[/snapback]
Hi ALBUS. Your not alone, we were scam very good be a professional. Made us feel sorry for her typing typing to the bone. I converted and it's gone. E-gold has no mercy, in refunding fresh money spent. This is healing talking about this. It's going to keep us sane.
I really feel sorry for my friends on hyipranks who listen to my cheerleading about how wonderful Terra was to people who had no hope. I don't think I will never stick my neck out there ever again. Lord forgive me.
Hi Cahira, it�€™s nice to see your strong again , rested, to fight another day.
Be blessed, Pastor Pam
Oh, I was also one who stuck my neck out and told people about this one. I really believed in it. I lost everything. I am so sorry for everyone. I will not do it again. I will post if I have been paid, but that is all.
got_jewels
May 2 2006, 09:18 PM
QUOTE(rugimulu @ May 2 2006, 10:12 PM) [snapback]2031682[/snapback]
So there are some clues here to track that bicch down.. i can;t wait to see her face here..
My friend you may want to take your banner out of your sig.
cagney
May 2 2006, 09:22 PM
QUOTE(rugimulu @ May 2 2006, 09:12 PM) [snapback]2031682[/snapback]
So there are some clues here to track that bicch down.. i can;t wait to see her face here..
Yep but We cant post stuff here anymore for obvious reasons but we are gathering stuff
Folks if you get any type of info please pm Cahira or surfposter with it
supakoreanflyguy
May 2 2006, 09:32 PM
If she is caught what will happen?
allenthien
May 2 2006, 09:34 PM
QUOTE
If she is caught what will happen?
not sure about refunds, but at least she wont get to spent our money...
Van Bassidor
May 2 2006, 09:50 PM
QUOTE(berglee @ May 3 2006, 12:12 PM) [snapback]2030819[/snapback]
i do not think so now, maybe that is true in last year, but in 2006, it is totally a mass in HYIP and Autosurf, how great it is in 2005, i missed too much chances to make me a rich guy but now, i am trying to turn my dream to be reality, i found it is so hard to find a good site, so many sites borned every day, erh, i am wondering which one is the one i should jump in, i had to do in-depth research, such as looking up in whois.sc, but now, i know that is of no use, for they all use false infos, no use at all...........
Looking up whois is not in-depth research at all, I don't know where on earth you get that idea; whois info provides nothing. In-depth research implies getting non-refutable evidential documentation for each and every claim made by a certain program, getting proof of how exactly all funds are derived, checking phone registries, home addresses etc.
If you think there are no legitimate operations out there, you just need to look further, as there definitely is. Develop your research and auditing skills and you will be able to filter programs better.
AlJones
May 2 2006, 09:52 PM
QUOTE(allenthien @ May 3 2006, 01:34 AM) [snapback]2031775[/snapback]
not sure about refunds, but at least she wont get to spent our money...
Now that's really funny .....but who is that gonna happen?
Cahira-eire
May 2 2006, 10:10 PM
QUOTE(cagney @ May 2 2006, 10:22 PM) [snapback]2031725[/snapback]
Yep but We cant post stuff here anymore for obvious reasons but we are gathering stuff
Folks if you get any type of info please pm Cahira or surfposter with it
Just a note to let you know that we have confirmed quite a bit more info on both of these scammers.
But please, pm any further information because I guarantee you, they are watching this thread.
If my pm box gets full then send it on to cagney or surfproster.
If there is anyone else in Canada who can physically help, please contact me. We have discovered quite a bit about these two. They can be stopped.
Cahira
QUOTE(atlantic-rose @ May 2 2006, 09:46 PM) [snapback]2031571[/snapback]
Also, there is a Terra Theissen listed as a member of phpfreaks.com since Nov. 2005 with location given as Winnipeg, Canada.
I just checked that site and cant find her name. Can you check again and let me know. She may have deleted it if you cant find it.
This is why we need to pm the information. She wouldnt have deleted it if she wasnt reading this forum and wasnt worried.
Cahira
Noir97
May 2 2006, 10:28 PM
QUOTE(Cahira-eire @ May 2 2006, 11:10 PM) [snapback]2031962[/snapback]
Just a note to let you know that we have confirmed quite a bit more info on both of these scammers.
But please, pm any further information because I guarantee you, they are watching this thread.
If my pm box gets full then send it on to cagney or surfproster.
If there is anyone else in Canada who can physically help, please contact me. We have discovered quite a bit about these two. They can be stopped.
Cahira I just checked that site and cant find her name. Can you check again and let me know. She may have deleted it if you cant find it.
This is why we need to pm the information. She wouldnt have deleted it if she wasnt reading this forum and wasnt worried.
Cahira
For all the supersleuths, thank you. Maybe I will never see my 5k again, but maybe some form of retribution can be taken
rugimulu
May 2 2006, 10:46 PM
QUOTE(got_jewels @ May 3 2006, 12:18 PM) [snapback]2031708[/snapback]
My friend you may want to take your banner out of your sig.
Sorry boss, im kinda not in the mood now to explore mmg features, I dont care bout my sig right now, maybe someday, when i have time and mood, i'll remove it. I still busy reading this thread, 13PS thread, Pointshare threads.. scam scam and scam.. this is my bigger lost since i join egold.. now only PSX that still leave a hope.
I believe, there some members outside that will track these scammers down.. cmon Caheira lead the way !!!
got_jewels
May 2 2006, 10:51 PM
QUOTE(rugimulu @ May 2 2006, 11:46 PM) [snapback]2032215[/snapback]
Sorry boss, im kinda not in the mood now to explore mmg features, I dont care bout my sig right now, maybe someday, when i have time and mood, i'll remove it. I still busy reading this thread, 13PS thread, Pointshare threads.. scam scam and scam.. this is my bigger lost since i join egold.. now only PSX that still leave a hope.
I believe, there some members outside that will track these scammers down.. cmon Caheira lead the way !!!
sorry to hear that.
studioman
May 2 2006, 11:01 PM
where in canada is she?
Cahira-eire
May 2 2006, 11:22 PM
QUOTE(studioman @ May 3 2006, 12:01 AM) [snapback]2032298[/snapback]
where in canada is she?
Winnipeg South
Please pm any information that is not already on here.
Cahira
cagney
May 2 2006, 11:27 PM
QUOTE(Cahira-eire @ May 2 2006, 11:22 PM) [snapback]2032381[/snapback]
Winnipeg South
Please pm any information that is not already on here. Cahira
Yep we dont want Bonnie and Clyde knowing what we have on them
But trust us here we have stuff thats never came up on this forum before
rugimulu
May 2 2006, 11:33 PM
QUOTE(cagney @ May 3 2006, 02:27 PM) [snapback]2032405[/snapback]
Yep we dont want Bonnie and Clyde knowing what we have on them
But trust us here we have stuff thats never came up on this forum before
I salute you and cahira and all participants that have useful information. Please do as you need to do in the name of victims here.. I wish i could help you, but i'm thousand miles away from canada
cagney
May 2 2006, 11:39 PM
QUOTE(rugimulu @ May 2 2006, 11:33 PM) [snapback]2032448[/snapback]
I salute you and cahira and all participants that have useful information. Please do as you need to do in the name of victims here.. I wish i could help you, but i'm thousand miles away from canada
Thats ok dont you worry about it
The Internet is a wonderful tool
Im also a long way from Canada but when you know where to look its amazing what you can find
allenthien
May 2 2006, 11:57 PM
Frankly speaking, what kind of more information do you all need to track her down? Seems like you all already got her name, address, everything to track her down..
Feel like helping, but not sure how to..
Bullskeptic
May 3 2006, 12:01 AM
QUOTE(bushido @ May 1 2006, 10:15 AM) [snapback]2020784[/snapback]
Dont get me wrong, I have money in some programs now that are most likely to be ponzis. CompacSurfing 1.2k, AlienTrust 3.3k and DadnDaves 1k. My investment in SS was a pure punt, I was counting on two ten day cycles, based on the programs popularity, I felt it was good for a month or two. I didnt think the admin would scam off. I anticipates a natural ponzi death, when new funds comming in were insuficient to make the payouts. bushido
You obviously don'y know much about what are ponzis and what are not. Stormysurf is just a pure SCAM not neccesarily a ponzi. If you're running a "co-op" you don't need to ponzi the money. You need to be honest about the returns (which are usually variable), but times of no return are normal. I can not believe you would lump in a program like dadndaves, which is obviously an autosurf that is, well what stormsurf was supposed to be, a "co-op", and call it a ponzi.
I think FXIG has more of a chance of being a ponzi than dadndaves.
jacomatt8
May 3 2006, 12:43 AM
has anybody in the area paid them a visit yet ...we want pictures!!!!! Of what these scammers look like.
allenthien
May 3 2006, 01:26 AM
QUOTE
has anybody in the area paid them a visit yet ...we want pictures!!!!! Of what these scammers look like.
Was just wondering whether people really wen to their area and check them out.. Hope there are though.. If i was sponsered, i will go there for you guys.. better ask canadian to do so to minimised the cost..
franka
May 3 2006, 01:36 AM
QUOTE(Van Bassidor @ May 2 2006, 09:50 PM) [snapback]2031876[/snapback]
Looking up whois is not in-depth research at all, I don't know where on earth you get that idea; whois info provides nothing. In-depth research implies getting non-refutable evidential documentation for each and every claim made by a certain program, getting proof of how exactly all funds are derived, checking phone registries, home addresses etc.
If you think there are no legitimate operations out there, you just need to look further, as there definitely is. Develop your research and auditing skills and you will be able to filter programs better.
Can't you just tell us?
P - L - E - A - S - E
nchancer
May 3 2006, 01:42 AM
QUOTE(franka @ May 3 2006, 07:36 PM) [snapback]2033063[/snapback]
Can't you just tell us?
P - L - E - A - S - E
Try reading outside of the hype filled MMG threads, which consist of three word "I was paid!" posts and then when someone points out a negative people put their hands on their ears and ignore it, saying stuff like "I HAVE FAITH IN TERRA! I AM NOT LISTENING TO YOU!"
Faith based on what?
If you really want, my blog has some of the better publically available programs listed in the top of the side bar, and there are a bunch of more private, even better programs that people can't talk about publically. A bunch of other great resources out there too with which to find information. I won't list them in case someone tries to put a warning on me for spamming - but that's a fundamental problem is it? People jump on you if you mention a different program in a different thread! How are you meant to learn and research without qualitative and quantitative comparison?
All because it doesn't earn 140% in 5 days does not mean it is not worth your time.
This unfortunately seems to be many people's mentality these days.
GenesisPower
May 3 2006, 01:56 AM
QUOTE(nchancer @ May 3 2006, 05:42 PM) [snapback]2033088[/snapback]
Try reading outside of the hype filled MMG threads, which consist of three word "I was paid!" posts and then when someone points out a negative people put their hands on their ears and ignore it, saying stuff like "I HAVE FAITH IN TERRA! I AM NOT LISTENING TO YOU!"
Faith based on what?
If you really want, my blog has some of the better publically available programs listed in the top of the side bar, and there are a bunch of more private, even better programs that people can't talk about publically. A bunch of other great resources out there too with which to find information. I won't list them in case someone tries to put a warning on me for spamming - but that's a fundamental problem is it? People jump on you if you mention a different program in a different thread! How are you meant to learn and research without qualitative and quantitative comparison?
All because it doesn't earn 140% in 5 days does not mean it is not worth your time.
This unfortunately seems to be many people's mentality these days.
katenagui
May 3 2006, 02:08 AM
Привет Гарик!! Как ты?
franka
May 3 2006, 02:09 AM
QUOTE(nchancer @ May 3 2006, 01:42 AM) [snapback]2033088[/snapback]
Try reading outside of the hype filled MMG threads, which consist of three word "I was paid!" posts and then when someone points out a negative people put their hands on their ears and ignore it, saying stuff like "I HAVE FAITH IN TERRA! I AM NOT LISTENING TO YOU!"
Faith based on what?
If you really want, my blog has some of the better publically available programs listed in the top of the side bar, and there are a bunch of more private, even better programs that people can't talk about publically. A bunch of other great resources out there too with which to find information. I won't list them in case someone tries to put a warning on me for spamming - but that's a fundamental problem is it? People jump on you if you mention a different program in a different thread! How are you meant to learn and research without qualitative and quantitative comparison?
All because it doesn't earn 140% in 5 days does not mean it is not worth your time.
This unfortunately seems to be many people's mentality these days.
That is not always true, I have been scammed many times already, but I have also been lucky enough to find Total Rune and to scrape into DadnDaves. Any searching I am doing now is for short term investments in order to further finance those 2. The negative posts are what I look for, in fact I find it difficult to stomach the cheerleading cr. . I do not have your experience and am grateful, for any advice, I will certainly take a look at your blog, but telling me where not to look isn’t very helpful.
allenthien
May 3 2006, 02:10 AM
QUOTE
Привет Гарик!! Как ты?
English please.. lol
Garik187
May 3 2006, 02:12 AM
Personal Attacks Will NOT Be Tolerated!
Bizwhiz
May 3 2006, 02:13 AM
QUOTE(allenthien @ May 3 2006, 02:10 AM) [snapback]2033241[/snapback]
English please.. lol
You are rifht allenthien I just wonder what does it mean?
surfergirl
May 3 2006, 02:16 AM
QUOTE(Cahira-eire @ May 2 2006, 09:42 PM) [snapback]2030666[/snapback]
I am truly happy for you that you have never been in the position my family is, where we need to raise a very large amount of money very fast for the sake of my nephew.
Yes, desperation will often make people choose unwise choices because they HOPE beyond reason that the choice they make will help.
Hindsight vision is ALWAYS 20/20.
Unless you walk in the life of another you cannot judge, and believe me, you would not want to walk in ours.
Whether we were foolish or not does not excuse anothers wrongful actions. Terra/James is no more than a liar and a thief and I truly hope they do not have any children as they will only bring misery to those young lives.
The others are right, if your only purpose to post is to create more pain and loss than please dont. It does no good at this point to say you are wiser than another. The view is always clearer from the high rode.
I do not mean to be harsh, truly, but it is at times like this when we should take a good look at ourselves, learn from our mistakes and offer help to one another out of compassion. Cahira
You are right. Unless you walk in another's shoes, you should not judge. I live on a fixed income of a little over $600 a month from disability. I know all about desperation. That is why I decided to give autosurfing a try. To try and make ends meet. Those who invest thousands of $$$ into a venture where you do not know the person you are giving what could possibly be your life savings to, are either foolish or greedy. How many times do you have to hear the story of a previously great site running with members money, before you stop handing over all of yours?
I am not claiming to be wiser than anyone here. As I said, if not for egold being the only processor accepted before SS downfall, I too would have lost money. That is not wisdom, that is luck. But only $40, not $4,000 or more. If I had that kind of money, I definitely would be a little more careful in who's hands I put it. Maybe that is because it is not easy to come by for me.
This is a public forum. Opinions are posted here and this is mine. If you do not approve, move on. My compassion is saved for those who truly need compassion. Those who do not have ANY money to purchase life's basics. Food, clothing, shelter. Not someone with thousands sitting in an account somewhere looking to make a fast buck.
Do not be upset with me. I did not take your money or force you to hand it over to a stranger. Sorry if my post is hitting home with some of you.
Garik187
May 3 2006, 02:17 AM
QUOTE(katenagui @ May 3 2006, 03:08 AM) [snapback]2033234[/snapback]
Привет Гарик!! Как ты?
Don't worry guys, she's not Terra...she's my friend, she weas speaking our language. Hi, i'm good, Edited for inappropriate language/personal attacks
allenthien
May 3 2006, 02:22 AM
Hi Cahira, please read PM, dont think it helps much though, Cheers Allen Thien
katenagui
May 3 2006, 02:23 AM
QUOTE(Garik187 @ May 3 2006, 01:17 PM) [snapback]2033271[/snapback]
Don't worry guys, she's not Terra...she's my friend, she weas speaking our language. Hi, i'm good, i think you heard all the BS about StormySurf and ***** named Terra?
Lol, im not terra. Guys, i lost so much here... I had hope yesterday, but i guess Terra will never be back
Garik187
May 3 2006, 02:25 AM
QUOTE(katenagui @ May 3 2006, 03:23 AM) [snapback]2033298[/snapback]
Lol, im not terra. Guys, i lost so much here... I had hope yesterday, but i guess Terra will never be back
Yep, everything is ****ed up here, admin wasn't honest at all as we all know now. PM if you want to talk tomorrow. I'm off to bed now, talk to you later.
katenagui
May 3 2006, 02:27 AM
QUOTE(Garik187 @ May 3 2006, 01:25 PM) [snapback]2033306[/snapback]
Yep, everything is ****** up here, admin wasn't honest at all as we all know now. PM if you want to talk tomorrow. I'm off to bed now, talk to you later.
Good night, Garik! sweet dreams... will talk to you tomorrow
LondonHoney
May 3 2006, 02:28 AM
I am so glad we have stopped posting evidence in this thread. Some wonderful behind the scenes work is now taking place and these could be the first ponzi scammers brought to justice.
marc williams
May 3 2006, 02:40 AM
QUOTE(LondonHoney @ May 3 2006, 02:28 AM) [snapback]2033327[/snapback]
I am so glad we have stopped posting evidence in this thread. Some wonderful behind the scenes work is now taking place and these could be the first ponzi scammers brought to justice.
William form NOVA lights got caught maybe you guys could do some research on Nova Lights to see how they went about locking him away.
Not sure but i think PIPS,and ST got away with it
allenthien
May 3 2006, 02:42 AM
QUOTE
I am so glad we have stopped posting evidence in this thread. Some wonderful behind the scenes work is now taking place and these could be the first ponzi scammers brought to justice.
London Honey, I hope so too... Those Back Stage Heroes must be busy looking for evidences and clues... To Track them down.. Wouldnt take them any longer now..
London Honey, Do you have any ideas how to help those Back-Stage Heros? Cheers Allen Thien
QUOTE
William form NOVA lights got caught maybe you guys could do some research on Nova Lights to see how they went about locking him away.
There are pages and pages off info about them and what they di just spend a few hours on google and te Forums might give you some ideads as to how to get Terra from StormSurf
QUOTE(allenthien @ May 3 2006, 02:42 AM) [snapback]2033403[/snapback]
Is refunds made from Nova then?
No because they could never trace the money it was gone and they could'nt do anything about it.
Some think williams had a few million dollars and stashed it away when he come outs he will get the money.
williams from NOVA got 2.5 years his Ponzi was much bigger than this someone set him $300k and there many high rollers in this Scam.
2.5 years he will be out and will have the money and live the rest off his life in Luxury.
Shame the governments don't seam to care about this mass fraude
Even if you get Terra she wont get much longer than Williams did the governments don't seam to care about these huge Ponzi scams
allenthien
May 3 2006, 03:12 AM
QUOTE
No because they could never trace the money it was gone and they could'nt do anything about it.
Some think williams had a few million dollars and stashed it away when he come outs he will get the money.
williams from NOVA got 2.5 years his Ponzi was much bigger than this someone set him $300k and there many high rollers in this Scam.
2.5 years he will be out and will have the money and live the rest off his life in Luxury.
Shame the governments don't seam to care about this mass fraude
Even if you get Terra she wont get much longer than Williams did the governments don't seam to care about these huge Ponzi scams
No refunds.. Should have known.. I didnt get refund of any of the program when im scammed.. But.. There are some MMGers working hard for it.. Let's hope for the best..
tamparuliwebnet
May 3 2006, 03:21 AM
any progress for today? scammer terra is still around
allenthien
May 3 2006, 03:31 AM
QUOTE
any progress for today? scammer terra is still around
So far, i believe theres no progress yet, if there is, i believe cahira will update us..
As for Terra, sigh, gone with the wind...
berglee
May 3 2006, 03:52 AM
QUOTE(allenthien @ May 3 2006, 03:31 AM) [snapback]2033641[/snapback]
So far, i believe theres no progress yet, if there is, i believe cahira will update us..
As for Terra, sigh, gone with the wind...
yes, it is, gone with the wind
Aqua Marine
May 3 2006, 04:10 AM
guys just to let u know we are actually making good progress with this and to thank u all for ur help and the pm of info
allenthien
May 3 2006, 04:15 AM
QUOTE
guys just to let u know we are actually making good progress with this and to thank u all for ur help and the pm of info
Edited... Cheers Allen Thien
Let's all wait for Aqua and girls into action!!!
Van Bassidor
May 3 2006, 04:20 AM
QUOTE(franka @ May 3 2006, 07:36 PM) [snapback]2033063[/snapback]
Can't you just tell us?
P - L - E - A - S - E
You want to just trust in me? I assumed people would rather audit programs for themselves, so they could determine their legitimacy first hand as opposed to just trusting someone to tell them which ones are legitimate or worthy
allenthien
May 3 2006, 04:22 AM
QUOTE
You want to just trust in me? I assumed people would rather audit programs for themselves, so they could determine their legitimacy first hand as opposed to just trusting someone to tell them which ones are legitimate or worthy
I dont mind if you pm me your programs, i will research in that later... lol
And yes, you cant say out what programs u had in mind in this thread, as good as hijacking.. Cheers Allen Thien
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Oh, I was also one who stuck my neck out and told people about this one. I really believed in it. I lost everything. I am so sorry for everyone. I will not do it again. I will post if I have been paid, but that is all.
but now, i am trying to turn my dream to be reality, i found it is so hard to find a good site, so many sites borned every day, erh, i am wondering which one is the one i should jump in, i had to do in-depth research, such as looking up in whois.sc, but now, i know that is of no use, for they all use false infos, no use at all...........
.....but who is that gonna happen?
