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TheTonik
QUOTE(Noir97 @ Apr 30 2006, 06:51 PM) [snapback]2013251[/snapback]

I feel so sick. I had 5k in there, 4k was from my cousin.


Man, thats terrible dude. I hope you explained to him that this kind of thing can happen...
rapto
i dont think Terra would put that on her site terra's english is very good she knows how to spell .....check this out it seems this hacker has been getting into a few sites lately this hacker seems that he only got into a few big name autosurf sites forums..... this was the latest bgs announcement by so called charlot read this and tell me if u think this is charlot...>

Dear Users

Charlot Yesterday, 01:23 PM Post #1


Administrator


Group: Admin
Posts: 289
Joined: 28-January 06
From: U.S.A.
Member No.: 1



I'd like to thank you for all the money you have given me. Thanks to you, I was able to buy a house and a really nice car that I wouldn't ever be able to afford because I can't keep a job.

I'm feeling a little guilty, so I'd like to start by telling people how I lied to you and made you believe I was an ok person.

Those pending payouts for blackgoldsurf.com will never be paid. Sorry. I actually paid some people to say some nice things on talkgold and moneymaker in order to help scam you for the new site.

Charles is me. I use the alter ego in order to not have to deal with people directly especially when they get pissy about me stealing their money. Sorry!

I didn't count on hackers coming in and exposing me for the fraud I am, but when they did I decided to use them to my advantage! 1. by knowing that they sent out a mass email and it was bringing in a lot of money and not telling people that the deal wasn't real until many hours later! and 2. by blaming them for stealing money that I actually stole so that I could shut down my site and have someone else take the blame! Brilliant!

There's more dirt, but holy crap I have to go shopping

tq *****es!


RichieRich52
so heres my input.. whether this is a scam now or not.. you enter the this gpt arena understanding you are taking on risks.. i trusted this so much i put all my investment money in this single program.. but the way i feel is i now learned from my mistake. so will i ever invest in just one program ? no never again.. no matter how much because in the end they are just after whats in your pockets. so don't be suprised.. i'd also suggesting on getting out all intial investment asap.. then go **** with profit so you don't loose money.. next time i hope i can be smarter.. lol funny thing is this makes me just want to get back in even more..
flame
QUOTE(allenthien @ Apr 30 2006, 12:24 PM) [snapback]2010738[/snapback]

Well said..
Definately i will stand by your side...
Not cheer-leading though... dont wish any new investors to touch this site at this moment..

I do appreciate that,as I was going to invest on Monday,after reading this thread last sunday.What a difference a week makes! Sorry,I hope you all get your $ . crying.gif
gauranggupta
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Apr 30 2006, 02:51 PM) [snapback]2013253[/snapback]

It's a proxy.

aha thanks for the help mate, i think next time a new site launches we need to do a ip test if thats ok wid u
gilmey
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ May 1 2006, 12:51 AM) [snapback]2013253[/snapback]

It's a proxy.

well she used a proxy all the time
i wonder why ..... furious.gif
HLLH
QUOTE(enlightenedmind @ Apr 30 2006, 02:51 PM) [snapback]2013249[/snapback]

Girl, if someone wants to scam...you'd be surprised what they'd do to get it done! Now I WILL give Mazzie this credit...LOL...Stormysurf did fail...lol but what site doesn't. I'm still following my gut which tells me the money was running dry and it was time to jump ship for "Terra."

LOL, I just suggested but I don't intend to find her to send her into the jail...
Hopefully someone could doh.gif
gamerzgalore
QUOTE(dlex23 @ Apr 30 2006, 06:53 PM) [snapback]2013267[/snapback]

do you think this will make national news like 12 daily pro. Someone here should start anoter porgram with 150% in 10 days what terra did was not rocket science. Im sure someone on here that is a trustworhty member can do the same thing


Sooner or later they will go down ( as all ponzis do), and we would end up calling them a scam.
OxySheaGirl
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Apr 30 2006, 06:51 PM) [snapback]2013253[/snapback]

It's a proxy.

Please do explain, what is a proxy?
enlightenedmind
QUOTE(RichieRich52 @ Apr 30 2006, 05:53 PM) [snapback]2013273[/snapback]

so heres my input.. whether this is a scam now or not.. you enter the this gpt arena understanding you are taking on risks.. i trusted this so much i put all my investment money in this single program.. but the way i feel is i now learned from my mistake. so will i ever invest in just one program ? no never again.. no matter how much because in the end they are just after whats in your pockets. so don't be suprised.. i'd also suggesting on getting out all intial investment asap.. then go **** with profit so you don't loose money.. next time i hope i can be smarter.. lol funny thing is this makes me just want to get back in even more..

Yup, I'm fighting that urge too!!!
gamerzgalore
QUOTE(OxySheaGirl @ Apr 30 2006, 06:54 PM) [snapback]2013282[/snapback]

Please do explain, what is a proxy?


An IP address used to hide your location.
resurrected
maybe a hacker hacked just the site.
DerikM
QUOTE(jdizzle @ Apr 30 2006, 05:34 PM) [snapback]2013112[/snapback]

I hate to say it, but "I did tell you so!!"

Its not like i'm proud of it cause i'm out 2k, I just couldnt pull my money out quick enough before all the signs started to add up...


Look i lost a lot money too, and i don't want to sit here and argue over it. But saying it's a scam when it's already having problems isn't telling anyone much.

but we're in the same boat, now, so... sorry you lost money man. i had over 5k in there. But it's money i can afford to lose... so that takes some of the sting away.

lol, now all i can do is laugh at this and maybe curse some too.
OxySheaGirl
QUOTE(gamerzgalore @ Apr 30 2006, 06:55 PM) [snapback]2013284[/snapback]

An IP address used to hide your location.

I still do not understand what that is.. So, no one knows the read address or the real ip address?
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(OxySheaGirl @ Apr 30 2006, 06:54 PM) [snapback]2013282[/snapback]

Please do explain, what is a proxy?

Hiding their true location.
Very few Canadians need a proxy.
Some countries need proxies but very few because they don't supply their own access to the net.
We ban most proxies when we find them so it lessens situations where people come here to run a scam or whatever.

That being said, it's possible there was hacking, blah blah blah but until something is proven, we just won't know.
enlightenedmind
QUOTE(gilmey @ Apr 30 2006, 05:54 PM) [snapback]2013278[/snapback]

well she used a proxy all the time
i wonder why ..... furious.gif

ARE YOU GUYS EVEN THINKING STRAIGHT. If any of you ran a site that was ponzi or even PART PONZI and you knew it would fail at some point...Would you use your own IP address or address knowing folks will scream SCAM when the money ran out?!?!! Stop and think before you start saying stuff like this!! I'm not trying to bash anyone so don't take it as such. DLEX 23...your last post is one I actually agree with. biggrin.gif
camzio
the end

time to move on
rapto
i dont think Terra would put that on her site terra's english is very good she knows how to spell .....check this out it seems this hacker has been getting into a few sites lately this hacker seems that he only got into a few big name autosurf sites forums..... this was the latest bgs announcement by so called charlot read this and tell me if u think this is charlot...>

Dear Users

Charlot Yesterday, 01:23 PM Post #1


Administrator


Group: Admin
Posts: 289
Joined: 28-January 06
From: U.S.A.
Member No.: 1



I'd like to thank you for all the money you have given me. Thanks to you, I was able to buy a house and a really nice car that I wouldn't ever be able to afford because I can't keep a job.

I'm feeling a little guilty, so I'd like to start by telling people how I lied to you and made you believe I was an ok person.

Those pending payouts for blackgoldsurf.com will never be paid. Sorry. I actually paid some people to say some nice things on talkgold and moneymaker in order to help scam you for the new site.

Charles is me. I use the alter ego in order to not have to deal with people directly especially when they get pissy about me stealing their money. Sorry!

I didn't count on hackers coming in and exposing me for the fraud I am, but when they did I decided to use them to my advantage! 1. by knowing that they sent out a mass email and it was bringing in a lot of money and not telling people that the deal wasn't real until many hours later! and 2. by blaming them for stealing money that I actually stole so that I could shut down my site and have someone else take the blame! Brilliant!

There's more dirt, but holy crap I have to go shopping

tq *****es!
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(gauranggupta @ Apr 30 2006, 06:54 PM) [snapback]2013277[/snapback]

aha thanks for the help mate, i think next time a new site launches we need to do a ip test if thats ok wid u

No biggrin.gif
Do you realize how many programs open on MMG in a day?
That would be insane to keep up with.

Some people do need a proxy depending on their country though.
But it doesn't mean it's bad or good if it's a proxy. Some people have run good sites from a proxy.
resurrected
I wouldnt be suprised if stormysurf bounced back,because she did refund alot of money before.
sabana
Would someone please give me the Alertpay account that Stormysurf used. And how many posts do you have to make to be able to PM someone?
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(enlightenedmind @ Apr 30 2006, 06:57 PM) [snapback]2013296[/snapback]

ARE YOU GUYS EVEN THINKING STRAIGHT. If any of you ran a site that was ponzi or even PART PONZI and you knew it would fail at some point...Would you use your own IP address or address knowing folks will scream SCAM when the money ran out?!?!! Stop and think before you start saying stuff like this!! I'm not trying to bash anyone so don't take it as such. DLEX 23...your last post is one I actually agree with. biggrin.gif

Who cares what people scream.
I never used a proxy for anything, never would.
People who don't have anything to hide, won't.
megazero
QUOTE(sabana @ Apr 30 2006, 03:53 PM) [snapback]2013266[/snapback]

I will call alertpay also but I need the account id that was used to make a spin. Was it jcsevoltt@yahoo.ca?


yea it was, alertpay will not refund any money since it would cost them money, your best bet is alertpay keeping stormys money if there is any, I rather have alertpay keep the money then Terra at this point.
grecia
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Apr 30 2006, 06:56 PM) [snapback]2013295[/snapback]

Hiding their true location.
Very few Canadians need a proxy.
Some countries need proxies but very few because they don't supply their own access to the net.
We ban most proxies when we find them so it lessens situations where people come here to run a scam or whatever.

That being said, it's possible there was hacking, blah blah blah but until something is proven, we just won't know.



I think I would use a proxy I wouldn't want some psycho showing up at my door. Not that I would ever be an admin.
Pariah
QUOTE(camzio @ Apr 30 2006, 06:57 PM) [snapback]2013297[/snapback]

the end

time to move on

END GAME.... crying.gif I learned my lesson from HYIP.US I have back ups, but most of my $$$ were in here. I guess you can't trust anyone.
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(resurrected @ Apr 30 2006, 06:59 PM) [snapback]2013306[/snapback]

I wouldnt be suprised if stormysurf bounced back,because she did refund alot of money before.

If it's meant to be then it will happen but this Terra person needs to come out and say something.
enlightenedmind
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Apr 30 2006, 05:59 PM) [snapback]2013312[/snapback]

Who cares what people scream.
I never used a proxy for anything, never would.
People who don't have anything to hide, won't.

Let me rephrase what I meant. Mr. Mobile...the point is folks would start a witchhunt and try to track you down based on the info they received from your real IP address. Look how everyone started acting in here...WHAT'S HER ADDRESS...I'm going to find her this and that. AND that was BEFORE the whole e-gold hacked thing. That's what I was trying to stress. And as you said many good programs have been run from a proxy.
HLLH
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Apr 30 2006, 02:58 PM) [snapback]2013302[/snapback]

No biggrin.gif
Do you realize how many programs open on MMG in a day?
That would be insane to keep up with.

Some people do need a proxy depending on their country though.
But it doesn't mean it's bad or good if it's a proxy. Some people have run good sites from a proxy.

that's true LOL
I am using proxy also since my freaking network at the moment..
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(grecia @ Apr 30 2006, 07:00 PM) [snapback]2013316[/snapback]

I think I would use a proxy I wouldn't want some psycho showing up at my door. Not that I would ever be an admin.

Not like it tells them your name, phone number and address. harhar.gif

QUOTE(enlightenedmind @ Apr 30 2006, 07:00 PM) [snapback]2013321[/snapback]

Let me rephrase what I meant. Mr. Mobile...the point is folks would start a witchhunt and try to track you down based on the info they received from your real IP address. That's what I was trying to stress. And as you said many good programs have been run from a proxy.

Witchhunt...do you know how many blow hot air and do nothing? Probably 95%.
Sorry but that's true.
Proxies have their place but a Canadian doesn't need one.
enlightenedmind
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Apr 30 2006, 06:01 PM) [snapback]2013325[/snapback]

Not like it tells them your name, phone number and address. harhar.gif

Now Mobile...you know some people would go so far as to find out who you get service through...report your ip address on X day as running a ponzi...they could very well track you down that way. Even if it was a dynamic ip address..companies keep track of this info.
crittle.steele
QUOTE(gamerzgalore @ Apr 30 2006, 06:55 PM) [snapback]2013284[/snapback]

An IP address used to hide your location.



it's actually a box (or series of boxes) used to reroute your traffic through....essentially, if someone backtraces you using an IP, they'll hit the proxy, or the dumby box, making it more difficult to actually pinpoint your origin...

This was horrible guys, I'm out of the HYI industry altogether now..i lost too much money to tell you....I'm out....bye all
enlightenedmind
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Apr 30 2006, 06:02 PM) [snapback]2013325[/snapback]

Not like it tells them your name, phone number and address. harhar.gif
Witchhunt...do you know how many blow hot air and do nothing? Probably 95%.
Sorry but that's true.
Proxies have their place but a Canadian doesn't need one.

Yup I know how many blow hot air...but what about that 5%...LMAO!! screwy.gif
HLLH
OMG, I forgot the site I enterred one time, it showed everything even my proxy I was using ...
gilmey
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ May 1 2006, 01:02 AM) [snapback]2013325[/snapback]

Not like it tells them your name, phone number and address. harhar.gif
Witchhunt...do you know how many blow hot air and do nothing? Probably 95%.
Sorry but that's true.
Proxies have their place but a Canadian doesn't need one.


clapping7.gif clapping7.gif clapping7.gif
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(enlightenedmind @ Apr 30 2006, 07:03 PM) [snapback]2013334[/snapback]

Yup I know how many blow hot air...but what about that 5%...LMAO!! screwy.gif

Probably like 99.9% but I didn't want to scare anyone tongue4.gif
enlightenedmind
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Apr 30 2006, 06:05 PM) [snapback]2013342[/snapback]

Probably like 99.9% but I didn't want to scare anyone tongue4.gif

LMAO!! rofl4.gif you married?
tamparuliwebnet
QUOTE(CactusCash @ May 1 2006, 06:46 AM) [snapback]2013207[/snapback]

Well THIS really blows! I *just* found this site a few weeks ago and was JUST starting to get excited that MAYBE I could recoup some of the losses I've had... and now THIS?!?!?!

censored2.gif censored2.gif censored2.gif

I am SO sick of gettin' ripped off. furious.gif



same to me. DAMN IT. i put fresh fund about 3k over here, that was my last money. at least lucky enuf not to ask my family invested in. what pissed me of some of them was my cousin money. now it lead me to debt
gamerzgalore
Well once I get our first VM payout with alientrust, I am dumping all of my money in there again.
TheMobileHookup
QUOTE(enlightenedmind @ Apr 30 2006, 07:05 PM) [snapback]2013345[/snapback]

LMAO!! rofl4.gif you married?

No I am not miss. Stop asking me that tongue4.gif

I guess we have to wait for Terra to make her move in this chess game.
In check now, hopefully she doesn't say checkmate.
Caro
QUOTE(crittle.steele @ May 1 2006, 12:03 AM) [snapback]2013333[/snapback]

it's actually a box (or series of boxes) used to reroute your traffic through....essentially, if someone backtraces you using an IP, they'll hit the proxy, or the dumby box, making it more difficult to actually pinpoint your origin...


I had to use a proxy all the time when I was on dial-up because that was what my ISP provided me with.
MonkeyKing631
damnnnnnnnnn...lost my car yesterday and now lost all my e-gold......
HLLH
QUOTE(gamerzgalore @ Apr 30 2006, 03:06 PM) [snapback]2013350[/snapback]

Well once I get our first VM payout with alientrust, I am dumping all of my money in there again.

Surely it's not just you dude... sad.gif
enlightenedmind
QUOTE(gamerzgalore @ Apr 30 2006, 06:06 PM) [snapback]2013350[/snapback]

Well once I get our first VM payout with alientrust, I am dumping all of my money in there again.

Any cashback offers? rofl4.gif
Noir97
QUOTE(MonkeyKing631 @ Apr 30 2006, 04:07 PM) [snapback]2013356[/snapback]

damnnnnnnnnn...lost my car yesterday and now lost all my e-gold......



So sorry to hear that.
HLLH
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Apr 30 2006, 03:07 PM) [snapback]2013353[/snapback]

No I am not miss. Stop asking me that tongue4.gif

I guess we have to wait for Terra to make her move in this chess game.
In check now, hopefully she doesn't say checkmate.

God, it will not be a fair game tongue4.gif
gilmey
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ May 1 2006, 01:07 AM) [snapback]2013353[/snapback]

No I am not miss. Stop asking me that tongue4.gif




is there something u both want to tell us ? tongue4.gif
gamerzgalore
QUOTE(enlightenedmind @ Apr 30 2006, 07:08 PM) [snapback]2013360[/snapback]

Any cashback offers? rofl4.gif

lol. 50%, but then that only leaves me with 1% Lighten.gif
loopy22
I was only a few days away from getting a payment. Figures...

Also, on a side note, another scam just surfaced. Here is what I posted in another thread, but I am posting it here as well so that as many people can see it as possible. If anyone remembers Pacific Heritage or Dornstetten, this is the exact same situation...

SCAM SCAM SCAM! I am not in west-business, but a friend of mine is. He recently received an email from them saying that all withdrawal limits have been removed, which implies that he could withdraw all his money. However, it is a phishing scam to obtain his e-gold information. If anyone has a west-business.com account, please do not fall for this trap. They are a scam now for sure!!! You have been warned.
grecia
QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Apr 30 2006, 07:02 PM) [snapback]2013325[/snapback]

Not like it tells them your name, phone number and address. harhar.gif
Witchhunt...do you know how many blow hot air and do nothing? Probably 95%.
Sorry but that's true.
Proxies have their place but a Canadian doesn't need one.



Then how did you get my phone number? harhar.gif
siarragab
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pergh!!!!
d biggest scam ever encountered!!!!
i think this is bigger than 12dp ..

dear ADOLF TERRA..
congratulations, u've just made ur name on top of list of HYIP/SURF SCAM history!! diablo.gif lildevil.gif

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