Your are beautiful, will you be my Nubian princess? Let be put some SS stuff here, to be on topic. I have been paid 8 times so far. Waiting for number 9 for payment sent on 4/14.
bushido
sandmanmrm
Apr 24 2006, 03:23 PM
And so begins another romance at the ss front.
pamelasue
Apr 24 2006, 03:26 PM
I keep thinking that maybe we need like three threads for SS - single, married, or in between (married, but looking or single but not looking)......
Your are beautiful, will you be my Nubian princess? Let be put some SS stuff here, to be on topic. I have been paid 8 times so far. Waiting for number 9 for payment sent on 4/14.
bushido
she's a married women. damit we really do need the ss dating site NOW!
I was just wondering what people think a cheerleader was...etc. ...So it is apparent we all have different meanings of "cheerleaders."
Cheerleaders - this easily ranks in the top 5 most overdone and bloated topics of discussion in the world of HYI. Worst of all, in my opinion, is that every charlatan comes out of the woodwork to pontificate on the subject and establish their own expertise. This is a great example of a kind of cultural trend in which posting on a specific topic becomes faddish or fashionable. Along with this, criticizing or deriding others because they seem to cheerlead or are unacquainted with just what a cheerleader is also happens to be a popular activity.
But, the tired and repetitious prattling about "cheerleading" isn't all that insightful. All that really needs be said is that there are those promoting programs on a hollow or irrational basis. Some do it for their own ends (referral commissions, to enhance the amount of capital coming into a program in order to assure the program's longevity, etc.) or out of ignorance (naive optimism which makes selective observation of the circumstances surrounding a program, usually missing some key negative indicators). Either way, the lowest common denominator is: "cheerleading" is nothing other than propaganda.
The *real* problem is not "cheerleading" - instead, it is idiocy. In fact, one should pay much more attention to the IQ (Idiot Quotient) of a program than the number of "cheerleaders" (which is always disputable) and the intensity of their "cheerleading" (if that is, in fact, what they are doing). "Cheerleading" itself, appropriately defined, is a factor in any program's IQ. "Cheerleading" is a problem in its own right, but if anyone doesn't think it is symptomatic of a deeper and more terrible systemic problem, they need to realign their thinking, because the limited scope of their assessment is only contributing to the IQ of the arena in general.
So how does one gauge IQ? There are numerous indicators, with irrational optimism being only one of them. Very generally, message boards and forums are an excellent metric: the quantity of posts about a program will increase in inverse correlation to the decrease in the quality of posts.
The 12DP forum, with which most here are familiar, is an excellent example of this: thousands upon thousands of posts containing nothing but sheer nonsense, which betrayed the disturbing level of naivete common to most of the posters there. Unsophisticated, slothful, reactionary, paranoid, and sloppily greedy posters are indicative of an unsophisticated, slothful, reactionary, paranoid, and sloppily greedy overall membership, from which nothing good can come. As I recently posted somewhere else, once a body of thousands of minimally aware, unreflective and short-sighted posters gather together to converse about *their* pet money-making program, they became a massive, irrational force which cannot be contained or checked. Before you know it, some small-minded, skittish sort has contacted e-gold on the basis of some ridiculous reason and gotten the program's account(s) blocked, or the "brilliant" marketing efforts of some enterprising yet oblivious college kids has caught the interest of the pathetic local paparazzi and, in turn, the SEC.
Some other IQ indicators are: the "gambling" mentality, lack of concern about DD (often accompanied with silly talk about "belief" and "faith", as though a program were an ideological or religious system), repetition of requests for information that is easily found after some minimal effort, unstable individuals who swing between avid enthusiasm and grave pessimism on the basis of simple news items (e.g., interpreting an Admin's temporary use of dial-up or decision to launch their own PP as a scammer signal), the presence of referral links for blatant ponzis/scams in many forum/board member's signatures or talk of "diversifying" into such programs (this shows a general lack of research, foresight and responsibility), pettiness (criticizing others for trivial matters, often because they don't manifest the traits of the critic's notion of a model program member), elitism, and of course, cheerleading.
Now, scammers love it if their program has a high IQ and will even become emboldened by it. This brings to mind another important correlation: A scammer's level of sophistication, combined with the IQ of their program, is directly correlated to the degree of their success in their endeavor to accomplish their goal (i.e., defraud their members). Members of a high IQ program are easily molded and manipulated as long as payments continue to flow, due in large part to the common misconception that a program cannot be a scam if it is paying. Admins of legitimate programs, on the other hand, prefer a low IQ because they want intelligent, informed members who will not do things to encumber (e.g. submitting tickets for questions already answered in the FAQ or somewhere the site) or disrupt the operations of their program.
If any program talks about going "private", it is because doing so will ensure that the program IQ remains low, or at least at a manageable level. Often scammers are able to attract members with "going private" announcements not only because the window of opportunity is closing and because membership in a "private program" gratifies the pride of the member, but also because most HYI participants with any sense are drawn to a program in which an open membership will not let the program's IQ from escalate out of control.
In short, then, those who are squawking about "cheerleading" ought to be analyzing a programs Idiot Quotient, because that is the better and more complete index of the program's health (from the member end of things) by far. If a program seems to be dumbing down, you are witness a decidedly negative development. It doesn't necessary follow that a program will be dismantled by thoughtless and silly members, but it does heighten the risk.
Sorry for the long post.
flower
Apr 24 2006, 03:34 PM
QUOTE(got_jewels @ Apr 24 2006, 05:41 PM) *
LH has the popcorn, I have the alcohol and Emind has the drugs
Nonononoooo....there´s something wrong with this picture well..okey...u can have some,but don´t u dare finish up the bowl ......and membershipfee is 1k..just to let u know
LH has the popcorn, I have the alcohol and Emind has the drugs Nonononoooo....there´s something wrong with this picture well..okey...u can have some,but don´t u dare finish up the bowl ......and membershipfee is 1k..just to let u know
Good one, so much free help around here I'm surprised people aren't charging stormysurfbucks for it.
In short, then, those who are squawking about "cheerleading" ought to be analyzing a programs Idiot Quotient, because that is the better and more complete index of the program's health (from the member end of things) by far. If a program seems to be dumbing down, you are witness a decidedly negative development. It doesn't necessary follow that a program will be dismantled by thoughtless and silly members, but it does heighten the risk.
Sorry for the long post.
oh shim is back. An intellgent analysis as usual i think I digested it as well as can be expected considering its nearly 1am here.
If you want to post your egold account number, I will send you $20., so you can get it done in half the time. I had just been thinking about starting a growing money tree to send $$$ to help people with little invested here, but with the condition that in 3 months they pay it forward to someone else, since they would then have like 2000% profit. (If my math is right.)
On 2nd thought, I will pm you with my email address to send the account #, so you don't have to post for everyone to see.
That's a really cool thing to offer. I'm all for paying it forward - I've done it in other programs I've been with and will be starting it again as soon as I finish recovering my losses.
oh shim is back. An intellgent analysis as usual i think I digested it as well as can be expected considering its nearly 1am here.
What's all this Shim talk? I fib a little bit about my gender to draw sandmanmrm out into the open, which - among other things - has yielded the positive benefit of her substituting that sports car for her own picture, and consequently my masculinity is vilified with a EnlightenedMind-coined "transsexual/hermaphroditic colloquialism". I don't think even Sweetgirlof19years has ever been the target of such reproach (speaking of which; how much did she lose in EMO, again?)!
See if ever go undercover again for the amusement of everyone else. *sniffle sniffle*
What's all this Shim talk? I fib a little bit about my gender to draw sandmanmrm out into the open, which - among other things - has yielded the positive benefit of her substituting that sports car for her own picture, and consequently my masculinity is vilified with a EnlightenedMind-coined "transsexual/hermaphroditic colloquialism". I don't think even Sweetgirlof19years has ever been the target of such reproach (speaking of which; how much did she lose in EMO, again?)!
See if ever go undercover again for the amusement of everyone else. *sniffle sniffle*
LMAO!!! It's the new subject in Stormysurf so we can have something else to talk about besides being paid! Lol.
Your are beautiful, will you be my Nubian princess? Let be put some SS stuff here, to be on topic. I have been paid 8 times so far. Waiting for number 9 for payment sent on 4/14.
bushido
Hookup number 3 seems to be on the way. LOL
Just to let you know...Emind is married.
enlightenedmind
Apr 24 2006, 04:00 PM
Well after 4 days of slaving it out with dial up, we got our hi-speed back today at 4 pm !!!! We are pretty behind but have keep it within our terms, and over the next day or so we will be getting back to normal operations. With hi-speed I can do things about 10 times faster. We still have 13th payouts with alertpay and we are going to finish 14th payouts with e-gold today and start on the 15th. We are sorry for any delay.
Just wanted to post that again...for the damn SHIMs start whining again!! Just kidding...lmao
LondonHoney
Apr 24 2006, 04:01 PM
damn I need to double read to digest your speeches so you know about sweetgirl huh?
What's all this Shim talk? I fib a little bit about my gender to draw sandmanmrm out into the open, which - among other things - has yielded the positive benefit of her substituting that sports car for her own picture, and consequently my masculinity is vilified with a EnlightenedMind-coined "transsexual/hermaphroditic colloquialism". I don't think even Sweetgirlof19years has ever been the target of such reproach (speaking of which; how much did she lose in EMO, again?)!
See if ever go undercover again for the amusement of everyone else. *sniffle sniffle*
HEY! Did he say he got paid 8 times already...hmm...don't be speakin' up for me got_jewels!!! LMAO... ERRR, bushido...how much WERE those 8 payments for?
What was I thinking....You're lover is George Bush Jr.
HEY! Did he say he got paid 8 times already...hmm...don't be speakin' up for me got_jewels!!! LMAO... ERRR, bushido...how much WERE those 8 payments for?
ok last post for real. Girl stop hoeing and cater to your man
If you want to post your egold account number, I will send you $20., so you can get it done in half the time. I had just been thinking about starting a growing money tree to send $$$ to help people with little invested here, but with the condition that in 3 months they pay it forward to someone else, since they would then have like 2000% profit. (If my math is right.)
On 2nd thought, I will pm you with my email address to send the account #, so you don't have to post for everyone to see.
This is a wonderful thought.
However, just for the mathematical record, it would only shorten his time by the time it would take to double one's money, or about 1.7 cycles*, or roughly 17 days. This is because starting with 40$ today would be the same as starting with $20 about 17 days ago then doubling it. That's the nature of compounding.
This in no way detracts from the sentiment that the gesture embodies. Just don't want anyone to miscalculate prospective time-frames.
*for those who might care, CYCLES = ln(2) / ln (1 + interest rate), = ln(2) / ln(1.5) = ~1.7 where '2' was chosen because we're calculating the time to double one's money.
sandmanmrm
Apr 24 2006, 04:08 PM
Emind, Thanks for posting Terras message, I hadn't seen it.
Londonhoney, Tell me what is up with sweetgirl. I haven't heard that either although I figured there must be something with all the chatter about her.
I know, I already saw that one. Just wondering if anyone else has gotten paid since then. I guess Im just trying to get some conversation going - this board seems dead compared to this afternoon after I made a few "comments."
So.... uhhh.... has anyone else gotten paid for an April 13th Alertpay?
Yes, I got paid for an 4/13 Aletpay buy tonight at 6:08PM. And Tonik, apparently I was snappish with you. I apologize. Cheers and hope you are paid soon.
I know, I already saw that one. Just wondering if anyone else has gotten paid since then. I guess Im just trying to get some conversation going - this board seems dead compared to this afternoon after I made a few "comments."
Girl, you better go get your dancin shoes on before you miss your own party.
andrewunknown
Apr 24 2006, 04:14 PM
I am very happy to report that I was paid about 3.5 hours ago on two seperate 4/14 deposits made in the 04:00 hour GMT.
Yes, I got paid for an 4/13 Aletpay buy tonight at 6:08PM. And Tonik, apparently I was snappish with you. I apologize. Cheers and hope you are paid soon.
Its all good. There were quite a few of us that were out of line earlier today and we all need to apologize to each other.
I know, I already saw that one. Just wondering if anyone else has gotten paid since then. I guess Im just trying to get some conversation going - this board seems dead compared to this afternoon after I made a few "comments."
So you want to start a fight to pump the thread up!!! LMAO...so errrr...let me think of something...give me a couple of minutes...
A very handsome 23 year old guy that has a crush on enlightenedmind...
*blushes*
AWWW how sweet!! Tell you what ....when you get paid I'll do a dance for you...a good shimey shimey...I'm going to update my avatar to a recent pic of me.
AWWW how sweet!! Tell you what ....when you get paid I'll do a dance for you...a good shimey shimey...I'm going to update my avatar to a recent pic of me.
Oh yeah... Now we're talkin...
Noir97
Apr 24 2006, 04:23 PM
I just attempted to join the program and I a having a problem with making a spend to 2861050
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