Thanks for the advice,because it's my 1st time invest at auto surf,so i didn't have strategy like you. But my friend say we only have 1 month to fill complaint from the date we invest. I will try wait 1 week,but how if Michael account verified and then he cash out all the money and run away? Can we ask his identity from AP?
It does not hurt to ask. Whois.com will also give you answer on him too (which myself & others have listed on here through our posts before). AP and any other processor has to have verification of who he is through his bank Information for all of his business transactions from Alert Pay to his bank as well as confirmation numbers of the people he pays so yes I would believe that they would have all of his business information at hand. It's called a paper trail. But for now. I suggest again, wait and next time spread your money out to places like Frogress, Daily Profit Pond, Gigalido, and such . LOL
joshi81
Nov 19 2008, 10:08 AM
Whenever you invest.. always have a strategy, because with the kind of money you are investing if you have a good strategy to support it you can make huge profits. Always remember to diversify, participate in forums to knw what is happening. Feel free to contact people if you are confused about anything... I think Ap should help you get back your money.. I got it couple of time.. give it a try.. Good luck. ( if you need any help on AP support feel free to PM me)
QUOTE (JOYFANS @ Nov 19 2008, 11:00 AM)
Thanks for the advice,because it's my 1st time invest at auto surf,so i didn't have strategy like you. But my friend say we only have 1 month to fill complaint from the date we invest. I will try wait 1 week,but how if Michael account verified and then he cash out all the money and run away? Can we ask his identity from AP?
JOYFANS
Nov 19 2008, 10:34 AM
QUOTE (annan147 @ Nov 20 2008, 01:07 AM)
For those of you saying you are planning to do a chargeback with your payment processor if you used a credit card, you do realize that these payment processors aren't like Paypal right? When you signed up, you agreed not to do any chargebacks and if you do, they will close your account, or so they claim. If everyone that invested in these ponzis that used credit cards did a chargeback, the payment processors would go out of business. It is YOUR fault for investing here...yet when you do a chargeback you are punishing the payment processors. Take it as a lesson learned and move on. Otherwise you'll have a closed account and won't be able to invest in this industry any more. Find a good program like Madzpop, Vlane, etc and put your money in those. They have a sustaining return, unlike this one which was obviously a ponzi. For those who are going to do a chargeback, did you honestly think that 44% return every 12 days was real? Come on, no one could possibly think this was going to last a long time. It's your own fault, don't punish the payment processors.
Thanks for the advice,i will try check Madzpop, Vlane at google. It's my 1st time invest in this industries,so i don't know about ponziz or what is that mean. I am not fill any claim yet,and about you say i punishing the payment processors,why? They has freeze Michael account right?so i can take back my invest only without 44% ,because i never receive any profit like other who has receive profit from Megalido before.
QUOTE (joshi81 @ Nov 20 2008, 01:08 AM)
Whenever you invest.. always have a strategy, because with the kind of money you are investing if you have a good strategy to support it you can make huge profits. Always remember to diversify, participate in forums to knw what is happening. Feel free to contact people if you are confused about anything... I think Ap should help you get back your money.. I got it couple of time.. give it a try.. Good luck. ( if you need any help on AP support feel free to PM me)
Thanks! I will PM you soon,wait my post reach 25. I will wait i weeks more,hope Michael finish the problem and start pay. I invest at Megalido,because i lot's read a couple forum before and lot's say good thing. My investment reach 12 day when Megalido change website and change rules!
Zardon
Nov 19 2008, 11:00 AM
What about Solid Trust Pay members? As I've posted several times before, I'm not due to be paid until this weekend.....it's a few more days of autosurfing.
While some STP members have received their money from Megalido even during these problems they've had with AlertPay, others have not.
So let's say the Megalido site automatically repurchases ad units in the new plan with my money (which I don't want to do) instead of paying me. At that point can I do a VISA card chargeback with STP? From what I read in their Terms & Conditions, I kind of got the impression that I would be penalized or even prosecuted for attempting that. If that's the case it would explain why STP hasn't frozen Megalido's account(s). I don't want to risk anything.
I phoned STP planning to ask their Customer Service people my question anonymously. Unfortunately, their phone lines must be overloaded! I waited for 25 minutes and gave up because I didn't get past the pre-recorded music (opera of all things). How long does it take to get a live operator??
Somebody who knows the facts about STP from dealing with them in the past, please tell me what your experiences are. I'm still thinking it's best to wait this out no matter which way it goes with Akinyemi "Michael" Odrgan.
bgw
Nov 19 2008, 11:12 AM
I'm more of a looker than a poster but thought I would add my 2 cents in here. I have been around since 12dp and also know to keep diversified in several programs. I am slightly in profit in Megalido but am probably about to lose a big chunk. I did notice something today though that is not very encourageing. My last upgrade of $3234.00 expired yesterday and this morning showed as paid. Of course, like everone else has seen, paid meant re-invested (without my permission) into the "new plan". I was going to go ahead and wait a few days to see if he got back up and running because doing things like closeing the program and posting messages on the front of the site are not the usual work of a scammer. Incidentally, even if this does go down, I don't think it was a scam, I just think admin was in over his head.
At any rate the thing that bothers me though is that my payoff yesterday was $4656.96 which he "re-invested" for me. That is obviously not even a multiple of $6 which makes it obvious that this is just a hold on my money. So for me, I think I will surf for another 3-4 days, maybe a week and then if nothing changes, just take the loss, have Crown & Ginger to ease my pain and move on.
In the meantime people, don't invest in these things with credit cards, divesify in several programs, enjoy it when when you win with one of these programs, live with it when you lose in one of them, never ever never extend yourself in debt (like buying a new car or house) based on what you make in these programs and last but certainly not least, don't blame other people for your decisions!
Good day to all
abuhammad
Nov 19 2008, 11:21 AM
People it micheal care about his members and his site he should show some activity and talk with his members in the forum and even the site is back it would not be strong like it was it is dead if u have time go and ask for your dispute from your payment processer i hate scammer i lost more than 2000$ in this indusrty even i have been told about good sites but all of them turn to scam i thought that ML will be different but i was wrong so i asked a refund to my money i can not take the chanse to be in danger situation again i lost my money in the past becasue i did not asked for refund so go to hell scammers
JOYFANS
Nov 19 2008, 11:27 AM
QUOTE (abuhammad @ Nov 20 2008, 02:21 AM)
People it micheal care about his members and his site he should show some activity and talk with his members in the forum and even the site is back it would not be strong like it was it is dead if u have time go and ask for your dispute from your payment processer i hate scammer i lost more than 2000$ in this indusrty even i have been told about good sites but all of them turn to scam i thought that ML will be different but i was wrong so i asked a refund to my money i can not take the chanse to be in danger situation again i lost my money in the past becasue i did not asked for refund so go to hell scammers
Do you think you will success take back your money? AP LR Sp ?
Megalidothebest
Nov 19 2008, 11:35 AM
QUOTE (Zardon @ Nov 19 2008, 07:01 AM)
AlertPay didn't rip anybody off. Because of their policy, they are forced to freeze accounts of those businesses whom AP account holders (customers) accuse of scamming them. So that minority of Megalido members who ratted Michael out to AlertPay are the ones to blame. Michael doesn't have sufficent funds to pay us as a result. Once he regains control of his AP account, maybe that will change. All we can do is be calm and wait it out.....
We're still seeing reports of some Solid Trust Pay members being paid, but others who say they haven't been. That new MMG member above said he received $2039 yesterday to his STP. Unfortunately he has 1 post to his name, so that brings his credibility into question. But it's not impossible under the circumstances. If I get my $259 that's due when my current ad package expires this weekend, then I'll believe him. ( correction__ HER. am a female my dear!
yeah i just have 1 post. because i just join the MMG this morning. I mean i have been reading this forum but i never registered. But this morning i read a lot of negative comments and i cant just shut up my mouth when i know Michael is actually doing his best to Pay us. Majority of members paid invested tru AP and it sucks that someone reported to AP when almost all of us has huge investment tru AP. If only i know this will happen then i would've just invested all my money there tru STP. But the thing is STP fees also sucks. Now what can we do but wait? I have no expired STP anymore my investment tru AP rolled back to new plan. Too bad Yes but at least the site is not dead. I assure you Michael is paying. Lets just give him enough time to sort things out. PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE Edit: link removed
Richy
Nov 19 2008, 11:38 AM
Maybe they will pay but will remain with no funds to pay the last investors. Some will lose some will win. This is the game.
Critter
Nov 19 2008, 11:55 AM
QUOTE (Zardon @ Nov 19 2008, 11:00 AM)
So let's say the Megalido site automatically repurchases ad units in the new plan with my money (which I don't want to do) instead of paying me. At that point can I do a VISA card chargeback with STP? From what I read in their Terms & Conditions, I kind of got the impression that I would be penalized or even prosecuted for attempting that. If that's the case it would explain why STP hasn't frozen Megalido's account(s). I don't want to risk anything.
Why would you do a Visa chargeback on STP? You funded your account at STP with Visa, you then proceeded to spend the money in that account. STP has fulfilled their obligation to you. They have done nothing wrong....
JOYFANS
Nov 19 2008, 12:00 PM
QUOTE (Critter @ Nov 20 2008, 02:55 AM)
Why would you do a Visa chargeback on STP? You funded your account at STP with Visa, you then proceeded to spend the money in that account. STP has fulfilled their obligation to you. They have done nothing wrong....
What is going on? Why there's no one fill complaint and ask STP to freeze Michael account like AP? Or because lot's member deposit use AP than STP?
gerryunderwood
Nov 19 2008, 12:18 PM
QUOTE (JOYFANS @ Nov 19 2008, 01:00 PM)
What is going on? Why there's no one fill complaint and ask STP to freeze Michael account like AP? Or because lot's member deposit use AP than STP?
u play. u win. ur happy. u play. u lose. u want to sue. it is all gambling. so take the winnings with the losses. u won't receive refund from payment processors. give it up.
Megalidothebest
Nov 19 2008, 12:24 PM
QUOTE (JOYFANS @ Nov 19 2008, 02:00 PM)
What is going on? Why there's no one fill complaint and ask STP to freeze Michael account like AP? Or because lot's member deposit use AP than STP?
JOYFANS it wont help..i have been with STP and maybe if only there was no stupid person filed complained to AP then i would've get my referral commissions paid to AP. My investment from AP rolled to new plan and am not complaining bout it except that my Commissions are still pending in AP too. You guys are just bent for 12%x 12 days. Come on 4% is still money.
Michael i love you so dearly..thanks for my STP payment..will love you more if i get my AP payment soon i mean just ref comm.
JOYFANS
Nov 19 2008, 12:32 PM
QUOTE (gerryunderwood @ Nov 20 2008, 03:18 AM)
u play. u win. ur happy. u play. u lose. u want to sue. it is all gambling. so take the winnings with the losses. u won't receive refund from payment processors. give it up.
Joshi81 say "Ap should help you get back your money.. I got it couple of time" Do you has try ask your money from any payment processors in the past?
QUOTE (Megalidothebest @ Nov 20 2008, 03:24 AM)
JOYFANS it wont help..i have been with STP and maybe if only there was no stupid person filed complained to AP then i would've get my referral commissions paid to AP. My investment from AP rolled to new plan and am not complaining bout it except that my Commissions are still pending in AP too. You guys are just bent for 12%x 12 days. Come on 4% is still money.
Michael i love you so dearly..thanks for my STP payment..will love you more if i get my AP payment soon i mean just ref comm.
When you receive at STP payment? It's your last investment? if yes,lucky you!
Megalidothebest
Nov 19 2008, 12:46 PM
QUOTE (JOYFANS @ Nov 19 2008, 02:32 PM)
Joshi81 say "Ap should help you get back your money.. I got it couple of time" Do you has try ask your money from any payment processors in the past?
When you receive at STP payment? It's your last investment? if yes,lucky you!
Got yesterday..Nope i still have couple of investment tru AP over$4000 rolled back to 4% . I was gonna buy myself Laptop for xmas if i get payment from AP but well what can i do but to wait. Atleast michael trying his best to pay some of the members. And my sponsor been talking to michael and posted the screenshot in one of the forum. Nov 18, michael told him he is waiting for the AP and LR to be refunded. I would give him my LR just to pay other members who have been waiting in a week. But the thing is i just have $40 i my LR
Cant copy the screenshot so here is message from michael
(Sponsor) Thank you Am sure People will help. Whatta bout the LR? what is the situation?
(Michael- Admin) The same, I also need LR as they have blocked 3 of megalido's account so i dont have any funds to continue LR payouts. I believe a lot of people are using Alertpay thats why i wanna exchange for alertpay so i can also pay those with pending LR payments via ALERTPAY.
gueva
Nov 19 2008, 01:10 PM
QUOTE (Megalidothebest @ Nov 19 2008, 08:46 PM)
Got yesterday..Nope i still have couple of investment tru AP over$4000 rolled back to 4% . I was gonna buy myself Laptop for xmas if i get payment from AP but well what can i do but to wait. Atleast michael trying his best to pay some of the members. And my sponsor been talking to michael and posted the screenshot in one of the forum. Nov 18, michael told him he is waiting for the AP and LR to be refunded. I would give him my LR just to pay other members who have been waiting in a week. But the thing is i just have $40 i my LR
Cant copy the screenshot so here is message from michael
(Sponsor) Thank you Am sure People will help. Whatta bout the LR? what is the situation?
(Michael- Admin) The same, I also need LR as they have blocked 3 of megalido's account so i dont have any funds to continue LR payouts. I believe a lot of people are using Alertpay thats why i wanna exchange for alertpay so i can also pay those with pending LR payments via ALERTPAY.
Thanks for the update.. but can you tell us where this has being posted ? If you can't, then can you post the screen ? if you can't copy it, why ? is it because the forum prohibit it, or because you simply don't know how to copy a link of a picture ? waiting for your answer.
gerryunderwood
Nov 19 2008, 01:20 PM
Strictpay says they won't get in middle of arguments. They say contact the admin to work it out. so why no strictpay payments?
chris167
Nov 19 2008, 01:38 PM
I am a STP user and my current cycle has just expired so will post up screenshot if i get any money from megalido
FrogPrince
Nov 19 2008, 01:42 PM
goodluck to you!
Richy
Nov 19 2008, 02:04 PM
I think you wanted to say Good luck to all!
QUOTE (surfbhoy @ Nov 19 2008, 01:42 PM)
goodluck to you!
Dalen
Nov 19 2008, 02:52 PM
I thought Michael said a long time ago that the LR problem had been sorted out... if so, then why has it emerged again?
I noticed today after surfing I can no longer cashout via LR with the "new plan".
jimandjg
Nov 19 2008, 02:59 PM
Everyone think about this;
No money coming into Megalido
26000 members earning money daily 4%
Where will the money come from to pay everyone in 36 days
tooooot toooot, ALL ABOARD, CHRISTMAS COAL TRAIN IS LEAVING THE STATION
LOL
nineteen
Nov 19 2008, 03:20 PM
QUOTE (Hula @ Nov 19 2008, 11:26 AM)
Hey, nineteen!
Welcome aboard!
Edit: Wrong thread, kiddo!
QUOTE (jimandjg @ Nov 19 2008, 03:59 PM)
Everyone think about this;
No money coming into Megalido
26000 members earning money daily 4%
Where will the money come from to pay everyone in 36 days
tooooot toooot, ALL ABOARD, CHRISTMAS COAL TRAIN IS LEAVING THE STATION
LOL
Hopefully From Heaven* My Polar Bear* Market is Winning NY* Giants Lose
modsquad3
Nov 19 2008, 03:22 PM
Concerning unionsurf admins comments:
UnionSurf Admin's Update from MMG Forum:
First I want to apologize for lack or communication of what has happened over the past 2 days. I also want to let everyone know I am NO SCAMMER.....I lost several thousand $$$ to Megalido. When I opened UnionSurf I quickly formed a friendship with Micheal at Megalido and we would talk sometimes several times a day on Instant Messenger. He assured me from the very beginning, He would take care of me and my sites. SO, I trusted him.....and put most all of UnionSurf and my sites funds in Megalido. SO much so, that Micheal allowed me to open 3 different accounts with Megalido. So, you can see the thousands of $$$ I had put into Megalido. Then, when Megalido went down and quit paying, I thought maybe I could keep the site up and going.....but then that would put me running as a ponzi and I know.....that eventually people would end up loosing money. SO, I decided that I would REFUSE to keep taking money from people....so I begin to REFUND members as I could and ended up pretty much draining the funds I had left refunding members. I had no other option but to CLOSE. I want you all to know.....I do NOT have your money.....Megalido has it. I had 3 accounts with Megalido, with several thousand $$$ in each account. So my loss was very significant and I could not recover. After having a conversation with Michael from Megalido on Tuesday morning, Nov. 18, He told me Megalido was DEAD. SO, I knew then there was no chance to recover........my only option was to REFUND what funds I had left and close.
Again I am very sorry.....but I DO NOT have your money.........Megalido has it.
Thanks UnionSurf Admin
Says Michael allowed him to open 3 accounts, so max on each account 6,000 times 3=18,000 DOLLARS...
Now the stats from the cached screen shot from his sight on google before he parked it, date/time stamp is Nov 18, 2008 10:09:51 GMT:
Running Days 99 Total Members 1207 Members Online 6 Total Upgrades $97648 Total Active Upgrades $49787 Total Paid $55709.57
Forget the payouts, or total upgrades, and look at the total active upgrades: 49,787.00, so suppose 18,000 of that is tied up in megalido and suppose he maxed out his 144% would give him: 25,920.00, leaving a balance of 23867.00. So the question is where did all this go? He says "so I begin to REFUND members as I could and ended up pretty much draining the funds I had left refunding members.".
Is this really what he paid out or is this really Michael throwing out more ashes in our eyes to cover his tracks and run with all the money. Is he behind all these 12/12 sites or most of them and robing peter to pay paul and pocket the difference for the holidays?
Strange that all this started happening at the same time?
Those of you who keep saying its not a scam or he would have done this or done that, stop it already. All you are doing is giving him and other scammers more info to use for the future scam they will pull on us, and yes, I am sure most of us will go for it again because, lets face it, we are all greedy. The trick is, as been said many times before, know when to get in and get out your seed money quicky, then play with their money, and risk what you can afford to loose.
Lisa111
Nov 19 2008, 03:55 PM
Actually he can earn money but it would take longer than 12 days. He can double it actually, or more.... **Interupt** This is Lisas husband speaking -
It is people like the who made a report to AP!!!!
I've worked with my wife on this stuff for over 3 years. I find that more often it is member I that report to pay proccesors and cause a 3rd partyy shut down. I am the one who went tooe to toe with Ponzi nemisis SOB on scam.com in '05 and even though we profited 4K on 12DP that brought it douwn in 06 by constantly posting for people to report to the DOJ and other rich beurocratic agencies. Now THEY make the money. PN makes crap and 12DP is down. To hell with people who report these programs before they even know what is going on. May they burn in hell. Final.
Stop condemning Michael because most of you have no patience and cry scam way before the time. Trsut me, when it's really a scam I will be their worst enemy. I think Vince of Alientrust ran because when I knew he scammed I reported him to EVERYONE, including the FBI I think. I had a hand in ruining Vinces life even though he stole 100s K dollars
Megalido is NOT scam at this point so naysayers can just
I personally don't wanna hear the BS unless you can prove something and you can prove nothing now. It just pisses me off. Don't piss me off. Please.
**Lisa back** my husband gets a little more strait to the point than I do, but I have to agree, in a more humble way
Bigsease
Nov 19 2008, 04:00 PM
LOL. I am glad I filed with AP when I did then...
QUOTE (Bigsease @ Nov 19 2008, 05:57 PM)
LOL. I am glad I filed with AP when I did then...
When it comes from another admin that got screwed. I believe it.
jimandjg
Nov 19 2008, 04:09 PM
QUOTE (Bigsease @ Nov 19 2008, 05:00 PM)
LOL. I am glad I filed with AP when I did then...
When it comes from another admin that got screwed. I believe it.
Alot of these cheerleaders think one person filed a complaint, i got news for you, try more like over 200. And how many of these cheerleaders, are actual admins running sites of their own, ( cons ), and they don't want you to file a claim because then you might get your money back and then you'll do the same to them when they try to scam you on their site. understand arrgh, be needin some ale.
Lion05
Nov 19 2008, 04:23 PM
QUOTE (Lisa111 @ Nov 19 2008, 03:55 PM)
Actually he can earn money but it would take longer than 12 days. He can double it actually, or more.... **Interupt** This is Lisas husband speaking -
It is people like the who made a report to AP!!!!
I've worked with my wife on this stuff for over 3 years. I find that more often it is member I that report to pay proccesors and cause a 3rd partyy shut down. I am the one who went tooe to toe with Ponzi nemisis SOB on scam.com in '05 and even though we profited 4K on 12DP that brought it douwn in 06 by constantly posting for people to report to the DOJ and other rich beurocratic agencies. Now THEY make the money. PN makes crap and 12DP is down. To hell with people who report these programs before they even know what is going on. May they burn in hell. Final.
Stop condemning Michael because most of you have no patience and cry scam way before the time. Trsut me, when it's really a scam I will be their worst enemy. I think Vince of Alientrust ran because when I knew he scammed I reported him to EVERYONE, including the FBI I think. I had a hand in ruining Vinces life even though he stole 100s K dollars
Megalido is NOT scam at this point so naysayers can just
I personally don't wanna hear the BS unless you can prove something and you can prove nothing now. It just pisses me off. Don't piss me off. Please.
**Lisa back** my husband gets a little more strait to the point than I do, but I have to agree, in a more humble way
To lisas husband
hey, how r u,
im relatively new to this autosurf, and im kinda panicking, because i made a mistake on putting all in mega..got around 4500 in there rite now..
anyhow, u know whats the latest on megalido..?
mcmunson43
Nov 19 2008, 04:23 PM
QUOTE (Lisa111 @ Nov 19 2008, 06:55 PM)
Actually he can earn money but it would take longer than 12 days. He can double it actually, or more.... **Interupt** This is Lisas husband speaking -
I've worked with my wife on this stuff for over 3 years. I find that more often it is member I that report to pay proccesors and cause a 3rd partyy shut down. I am the one who went tooe to toe with Ponzi nemisis SOB on scam.com in '05 and even though we profited 4K on 12DP that brought it douwn in 06 by constantly posting for people to report to the DOJ and other rich beurocratic agencies. Now THEY make the money. PN makes crap and 12DP is down. To hell with people who report these programs before they even know what is going on. May they burn in hell. Final.
Stop condemning Michael because most of you have no patience and cry scam way before the time. Trsut me, when it's really a scam I will be their worst enemy. I think Vince of Alientrust ran because when I knew he scammed I reported him to EVERYONE, including the FBI I think. I had a hand in ruining Vinces life even though he stole 100s K dollars
Megalido is NOT scam at this point so naysayers can just
I personally don't wanna hear the BS unless you can prove something and you can prove nothing now. It just pisses me off. Don't piss me off. Please.
**Lisa back** my husband gets a little more strait to the point than I do, but I have to agree, in a more humble way
Yes, I agree with what they said!!!
MEMBERS AND FORUMS DESTROY GOOD PROGRAMS!
jimandjg
Nov 19 2008, 04:28 PM
QUOTE (mcmunson43 @ Nov 19 2008, 05:23 PM)
Yes, I agree with what they said!!!
MEMBERS AND FORUMS DESTROY GOOD PROGRAMS!
And what program do you run?
mcmunson43
Nov 19 2008, 04:30 PM
QUOTE (Bigsease @ Nov 19 2008, 07:00 PM)
LOL. I am glad I filed with AP when I did then...
When it comes from another admin that got screwed. I believe it.
So, thanks to you, AP payments will be held up longer!! Good going Ace!
jimandjg
Nov 19 2008, 04:38 PM
QUOTE (mcmunson43 @ Nov 19 2008, 05:30 PM)
So, thanks to you, AP payments will be held up longer!! Good going Ace!
and 200 others, don't blame one, if not for michael, no one would have filed anything, SO BLAME MICHAEL, Geezh
mcmunson43
Nov 19 2008, 04:46 PM
QUOTE (jimandjg @ Nov 19 2008, 07:28 PM)
And what program do you run?
Yeah right, and deal with the lunatics that come out the first second a hiccup occurs.
Not for me, I feel bad for the guy.
I would like to see some of the complainers try and accomplish the task of running a program.
QUOTE (jimandjg @ Nov 19 2008, 07:38 PM)
and 200 others, don't blame one, if not for michael, no one would have filed anything, SO BLAME MICHAEL, Geezh
And what did Michael do? He told us what was to occur while he was still able to pay through AP. The fact is that MEMBERS took it upon themselves to disregard the notices and start posting trash on the forums.
If people hadn't seen the posts urging them to file complaints, none would have been filed and things would probably be back to normal by now.
As I have stated, "Members And Forums Destroy programs"
jimandjg
Nov 19 2008, 05:02 PM
QUOTE (mcmunson43 @ Nov 19 2008, 05:46 PM)
Yeah right, and deal with the lunatics that come out the first second a hiccup occurs.
Not for me, I feel bad for the guy.
I would like to see some of the complainers try and accomplish the task of running a program.
And what did Michael do? He told us what was to occur while he was still able to pay through AP. The fact is that MEMBERS took it upon themselves to disregard the notices and start posting trash on the forums.
If people hadn't seen the posts urging them to file complaints, none would have been filed and things would probably be back to normal by now.
As I have stated, "Members And Forums Destroy programs"
You will never see the true picture, COMMUNICATION COMMUNICATION COMMUNICATION, True communication, not email up dates And what makes it right for Michael to force everyone to reupgrade , don't see many that thought that was right
Well Michael said in the notice on the site, that he needed 24 to 48 hours to fix everything, its' been 24, 24 more to go
Zardon
Nov 19 2008, 05:24 PM
I can't understand why anyone would start with so much money in a surf program??
You big spenders need to spread out your investments more. $4000, $2000, or even $1000 to put back in from PROFIT is one thing but nobody should start in something high-risk like Megalido for more than $150 to $300 TOPS. My total stake here is $180 and even that is from my initial profit / start-up of $60.
Jim Cobb (on his 2 hour Internet radio show) and David Courtney along with many other experienced leaders / members have confidence that Megalido is just going through the growing pains that any type of business would go through. Akinyemi "Michael" Odrgan is only 28 years old and as far as anyone knows this is his first time running a surf or anything. He made mistakes and YOU people who complained to AlertPay (probably 100 if I were to guess) are at fault here. I'm just giving it to you guys straight.
If I'm paid to my STP at the end of this week (when due) or early next week, I'll let you know. But if it's auto-reinvested I can live with it as long as I'm paid 36 days later.
mcmunson43
Nov 19 2008, 05:31 PM
QUOTE (jimandjg @ Nov 19 2008, 08:02 PM)
You will never see the true picture, COMMUNICATION COMMUNICATION COMMUNICATION, True communication, not email up dates And what makes it right for Michael to force everyone to reupgrade , don't see many that thought that was right
Well Michael said in the notice on the site, that he needed 24 to 48 hours to fix everything, its' been 24, 24 more to go
What did you want?? A personal phone call??
He did communicate and then members twisted the words, put their own imagination into the words and ran to the forums and incited fear and panic.
Michael owns the program, so, yes, he has the right to do with it what he likes. Do you really think that he is the first businessman to change the busines plan. So, no, you don't get a choice in the matter.
McDonald makes their employees wear blue uniforms, do you think they have a choice?
I can't believe that every project that you started works perfectly thru the first time!!
Maybe he hit a snag that he couldn't work through. Maybe he was trying to get some help. In the mean time, everyone was screaming and yelling and making things worse by complaining to the payment processors.
moneyintheloops
Nov 19 2008, 05:33 PM
well at least the cycler im in is still working lol .. hope all gets fixed here was a great deal while it lasted
JAREDSQUALL
Nov 19 2008, 05:39 PM
Never invest in only one Autosurf site. That's my opinion.
I have money stuck in ML but I don't go ranting about it. Other Autosurfs are paying me and I'm profiting.
I hope everyone moves on. Some seem to stay on this thread, complaining and arguing with everyone. Feels like he makes a living by doing that.
jimandjg
Nov 19 2008, 05:39 PM
QUOTE (mcmunson43 @ Nov 19 2008, 06:31 PM)
What did you want?? A personal phone call??
He did communicate and then members twisted the words, put their own imagination into the words and ran to the forums and incited fear and panic.
Michael owns the program, so, yes, he has the right to do with it what he likes. Do you really think that he is the first businessman to change the busines plan. So, no, you don't get a choice in the matter.
McDonald makes their employees wear blue uniforms, do you think they have a choice?
I can't believe that every project that you started works perfectly thru the first time!!
Maybe he hit a snag that he couldn't work through. Maybe he was trying to get some help. In the mean time, everyone was screaming and yelling and making things worse by complaining to the payment processors.
You see i told you you would never see the true picture, LOL
Mareshal
Nov 19 2008, 05:42 PM
QUOTE (JAREDSQUALL @ Nov 19 2008, 05:39 PM)
Never invest in only one Autosurf site. That's my opinion.
tHIS SHOULD BE EVERYONE GOLD RULE BEFORE JOINING HYIP INDUSTRY
jimandjg
Nov 19 2008, 05:49 PM
QUOTE (Mareshal @ Nov 19 2008, 06:42 PM)
tHIS SHOULD BE EVERYONE GOLD RULE BEFORE JOINING HYIP INDUSTRY
Yes that's a good one, another one, make sure the admin is very active in a forum, and make sure he has a good working support system. none of which, michael had
rwa
Nov 19 2008, 06:44 PM
QUOTE (lionchild @ Nov 19 2008, 10:48 PM)
I have been watching the thread very closely for a while, and reading some of the accounts of new members who are new to the HYIP/Surf industry, and their potential losses in this program.
Please...
This is a highly risky field to earn money in, and there are many scams out there, that is just the nature of this business. There are a few of us including me who have been extremly fortunate to predict the fall of this program through in depth stats, member experince and plain simple number crunching. That however takes time, and yes some losses along the way.
My advice to the new fish in this tank is to diversify as much as possible, even if that means less profitable programs and more fees. When you first starting out, another way to gain quick knowledge is to ask around the forums for advice, in threads or talks one-on-one with members who have been swimming with the sharks longer.
I can not stress this point more - please ask around for advice, diversify your money and profits, and take out your seed money too (that is the golden rule for us Hyipers i think).
I live off this industry, and have seen several good programs that people thought would never go down --including this one-- so there is no guarantee here folks. I dont do 9-5 anymore, which you could say has made me extra cautious when choosing my investments.
One other thing to add in - dont be shy to ask senior members here on their opinions on a certain program
-Darcy Cardinal
Great post Darcy! We need more people like you in here for more reasons than one. It would be nice to be able to teach people how to play the game, which in turn will result in more calm and patience in forums such as these especially when the unexpected happen.
I feel sorry about someone who posted here saying this was their very first time and had invested 4.5k. Lets hope there will be a pleasant surprise down the road for this person.
buckeye66
Nov 19 2008, 07:34 PM
Yes indeed Darcy. Great post. Great advice for everyone. Thanks.
JOYFANS
Nov 19 2008, 08:12 PM
QUOTE (jimandjg @ Nov 20 2008, 07:09 AM)
Alot of these cheerleaders think one person filed a complaint, i got news for you, try more like over 200. And how many of these cheerleaders, are actual admins running sites of their own, ( cons ), and they don't want you to file a claim because then you might get your money back and then you'll do the same to them when they try to scam you on their site. understand arrgh, be needin some ale.
So,member who claim and ask AP to freeze account Michael is correct? How many days to release someone account if freeze like these? If Michael acount can be verified,it's proof Michael not scam right?
gerryunderwood
Nov 19 2008, 08:37 PM
QUOTE (JOYFANS @ Nov 19 2008, 09:12 PM)
So,member who claim and ask AP to freeze account Michael is correct? How many days to release someone account if freeze like these? If Michael acount can be verified,it's proof Michael not scam right?
noone knows.
joret71
Nov 19 2008, 09:51 PM
QUOTE (jimandjg @ Nov 20 2008, 09:49 AM)
Yes that's a good one, another one, make sure the admin is very active in a forum, and make sure he has a good working support system. none of which, michael had
I think your referring to my sig here, but another admin is now inactive to the forum due to his LR account hacked. So best thing is join if admin is always active on forum besides they are not trading they are just "supposed" to be trading....
JOYFANS
Nov 19 2008, 11:07 PM
QUOTE (modsquad3 @ Nov 20 2008, 06:22 AM)
Concerning unionsurf admins comments:
UnionSurf Admin's Update from MMG Forum:
First I want to apologize for lack or communication of what has happened over the past 2 days. I also want to let everyone know I am NO SCAMMER.....I lost several thousand $$$ to Megalido. When I opened UnionSurf I quickly formed a friendship with Micheal at Megalido and we would talk sometimes several times a day on Instant Messenger. He assured me from the very beginning, He would take care of me and my sites. SO, I trusted him.....and put most all of UnionSurf and my sites funds in Megalido. SO much so, that Micheal allowed me to open 3 different accounts with Megalido. So, you can see the thousands of $$$ I had put into Megalido. Then, when Megalido went down and quit paying, I thought maybe I could keep the site up and going.....but then that would put me running as a ponzi and I know.....that eventually people would end up loosing money. SO, I decided that I would REFUSE to keep taking money from people....so I begin to REFUND members as I could and ended up pretty much draining the funds I had left refunding members. I had no other option but to CLOSE. I want you all to know.....I do NOT have your money.....Megalido has it. I had 3 accounts with Megalido, with several thousand $$$ in each account. So my loss was very significant and I could not recover. After having a conversation with Michael from Megalido on Tuesday morning, Nov. 18, He told me Megalido was DEAD. SO, I knew then there was no chance to recover........my only option was to REFUND what funds I had left and close.
Again I am very sorry.....but I DO NOT have your money.........Megalido has it.
Thanks UnionSurf Admin
Says Michael allowed him to open 3 accounts, so max on each account 6,000 times 3=18,000 DOLLARS...
Now the stats from the cached screen shot from his sight on google before he parked it, date/time stamp is Nov 18, 2008 10:09:51 GMT:
Running Days 99 Total Members 1207 Members Online 6 Total Upgrades $97648 Total Active Upgrades $49787 Total Paid $55709.57
Forget the payouts, or total upgrades, and look at the total active upgrades: 49,787.00, so suppose 18,000 of that is tied up in megalido and suppose he maxed out his 144% would give him: 25,920.00, leaving a balance of 23867.00. So the question is where did all this go? He says "so I begin to REFUND members as I could and ended up pretty much draining the funds I had left refunding members.".
Is this really what he paid out or is this really Michael throwing out more ashes in our eyes to cover his tracks and run with all the money. Is he behind all these 12/12 sites or most of them and robing peter to pay paul and pocket the difference for the holidays?
Strange that all this started happening at the same time?
Those of you who keep saying its not a scam or he would have done this or done that, stop it already. All you are doing is giving him and other scammers more info to use for the future scam they will pull on us, and yes, I am sure most of us will go for it again because, lets face it, we are all greedy. The trick is, as been said many times before, know when to get in and get out your seed money quicky, then play with their money, and risk what you can afford to loose.
psydox
Nov 19 2008, 11:08 PM
So is anyone even bothering to surf anymore?
bkkumala
Nov 19 2008, 11:35 PM
Still waiting....
Dunno what will happened next.... ?
there's too much news flying around ... But we will see then....
JOYFANS
Nov 19 2008, 11:41 PM
This is from another forum(refback80)
"After having a conversation with Michael from Megalido on Tuesday morning, Nov. 18, He told me Megalido was DEAD. SO, I knew then there was no chance to recover........my only option was to REFUND what funds I had left and close."
"I have reported this site to IC3.gov and the FBI. Hope Michael steps up on the payouts now."
"All people must complaint with Interpol and FBI to track that escrow. After having a conversation with Michael from Megalido on Tuesday morning, Nov. 18, He told me Megalido was DEAD. SO, I knew then there was no chance to recover........my only option "
Now,this is more worst and worst.......
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