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majdi290
QUOTE (Skyree @ Jun 25 2008, 12:22 AM) *
Check this moron out:



OMG ... shocking.gif
Bestcodemaker
Ohh that's funny biggrin.gif
ScottoGato
Did you try the Report button?
Skyree
QUOTE (ScottoGato @ Jun 24 2008, 09:41 PM) *
Did you try the Report button?


It's a PM, not a post.
aldrine
oh wow, was SR hosted with BLCC? I never saw BLCC word from SR topic when jkeller talked about hosting issues before, 12d.p admin needs some spanking rofl4.gif
optimale
QUOTE (Skyree @ Jun 24 2008, 09:51 PM) *
It's a PM, not a post.


Extortion.

And MMG doesn't ban them?
Interesting.

With this private PM posted MMG knows full well what's
taking place and that 12dailyproadmin is up to illegal
activities.
Hula
Not really. MMG admin/mods cannot read every post.

Perhaps if the PM had been forwarded to MMG admin...
Lighten.gif
optimale
QUOTE (Hula @ Jun 25 2008, 12:16 AM) *
Not really. MMG admin/mods cannot read every post.

Perhaps if the PM had been forwarded to MMG admin...
Lighten.gif


OK Hula, if you're here reading this then you know about it now!
thumbup(1).gif

What did you do about it?
Anything?
MONEY-news
QUOTE (Skyree @ Jun 24 2008, 11:22 PM) *
Check this moron out:


Wow, thanks for that info. That really puts some questions about BLCC hosting. Your credibility was under a question a long time ago and now I have something that proves how you treat your clients.
12DailyProAdmin
QUOTE (Skyree @ Jun 24 2008, 03:22 PM) *
Check this moron out:


We expected this reaction. Looks like we will have $500 less for refunds and our members will find out some interesting facts about BLCC Gold. So if you are eager to know more of what was happening behind the scenes in Round 1, read on:

As some of our members might remember we have had to switch our hosting twice. And both times BlackLotus was the reason. The first time our site seemingly fell victim to a DDoS attack and after contacting BLCC it was moved to the next higher protection plan and members had to wait for DNS propagation. Nothing special you might think, but the "attack" suddenly stopped just after we transferred money for the next higher protection level. So later we actually had two copies of our site running simultaneously and there was much confusion until we deleted the index.php file on the old host. Some members probably noticed that their recent upgrades "disappeared" overnight back then. This was due to the fact that they upgraded via the old site in the evening and accessed the new one in the morning.

The second time was when the actual problems began. We received some complaints from our members about their upgrades not being credited instantly. After checking their transaction details we discovered that the funds were transferred to a totally unknown account. We checked the files containing our program's e-currency details and saw that they were manipulated. We have tried to change the FTP/Admin panel passwords, but after 20 minutes they were changed back to the old ones! So changing the files via FTP wouldn't help us as the supposed "hacker" had full control over the server. That is why we put the maintenance notice on our main page and moved to another host that was actually waiting for us anyway as BlackLotus would not be able to handle the attack levels we expected. After moving to another hosting provider we have never had any hacking attempts so either BlackLotus are the "hackers" themselves or their servers aren't well enough protected against hackers.

Extortion? No extortion at all. We just tried to get our members' upgrades back as the "hacker" was able to steal over $400.

Read more here:

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Blcc-Gold-D...96#entry4914096


Alyery
So... It seems to me now we have a lot of things to think about post-36326-1110185726.gif
chadgtr
where is 12daily.pro hosting at now???

so that we can save all the hassle of reading long winded back stabbing story..
georgem
QUOTE (chadgtr @ Jun 25 2008, 06:45 AM) *
where is 12daily.pro hosting at now???

so that we can save all the hassle of reading long winded back stabbing story..



Hmmmm.... This all started from Skyree posting a copy of a PM to Admin....Is that correct ? If it is. How did Skyree have access to his PM's ??? what's the connection there ??? This PTS worls is scary..........I went thru Skyree posts...A real bottom feeder....... blush.gif
davileonardo
QUOTE (Skyree @ Jun 24 2008, 09:22 PM) *
Check this moron out:




Scammer and thief diablo.gif


Just get this pm and send to one moderator and this scammer will be banned very fast here wink.gif
Grin01
QUOTE (davileonardo @ Jun 25 2008, 08:22 PM) *
Scammer and thief diablo.gif


Just get this pm and send to one moderator and this scammer will be banned very fast here wink.gif

Did you read the previous posts? Hula is aware of the situation, we're waiting for an MMG admin now.
georgem
QUOTE (Grin01 @ Jun 25 2008, 03:42 PM) *
Did you read the previous posts? Hula is aware of the situation, we're waiting for an MMG admin now.



Hmmmmm....... Remember, every time we sign on and hit a site. it's a hit. The more hits. The more value MMg has to sell.....It's just a business after all. It don't make them bad people... w00t2.gif
Hula
QUOTE (optimale @ Jun 24 2008, 07:27 PM) *
OK Hula, if you're here reading this then you know about it now!
thumbup(1).gif

What did you do about it?
Anything?


And just what would you suggest? dry.gif
Skyree
QUOTE (MONEY-news @ Jun 25 2008, 01:44 AM) *
Wow, thanks for that info. That really puts some questions about BLCC hosting. Your credibility was under a question a long time ago and now I have something that proves how you treat your clients.


Since when has our credibility been in question? Sounds like someone put you up to that comment, imo.

QUOTE (12DailyProAdmin @ Jun 25 2008, 03:56 AM) *
We expected this reaction. Looks like we will have $500 less for refunds and our members will find out some interesting facts about BLCC Gold. So if you are eager to know more of what was happening behind the scenes in Round 1, read on:

As some of our members might remember we have had to switch our hosting twice. And both times BlackLotus was the reason. The first time our site seemingly fell victim to a DDoS attack and after contacting BLCC it was moved to the next higher protection plan and members had to wait for DNS propagation. Nothing special you might think, but the "attack" suddenly stopped just after we transferred money for the next higher protection level. So later we actually had two copies of our site running simultaneously and there was much confusion until we deleted the index.php file on the old host. Some members probably noticed that their recent upgrades "disappeared" overnight back then. This was due to the fact that they upgraded via the old site in the evening and accessed the new one in the morning.

The second time was when the actual problems began. We received some complaints from our members about their upgrades not being credited instantly. After checking their transaction details we discovered that the funds were transferred to a totally unknown account. We checked the files containing our program's e-currency details and saw that they were manipulated. We have tried to change the FTP/Admin panel passwords, but after 20 minutes they were changed back to the old ones! So changing the files via FTP wouldn't help us as the supposed "hacker" had full control over the server. That is why we put the maintenance notice on our main page and moved to another host that was actually waiting for us anyway as BlackLotus would not be able to handle the attack levels we expected. After moving to another hosting provider we have never had any hacking attempts so either BlackLotus are the "hackers" themselves or their servers aren't well enough protected against hackers.

Extortion? No extortion at all. We just tried to get our members' upgrades back as the "hacker" was able to steal over $400.

Read more here:

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Blcc-Gold-D...96#entry4914096


You seem to be confused:

- You bought better protection, we upgraded you, you came back online. I don't see how or why this is a problem for you.
- You're not on a protected network right now
- Your hacking problems are between you and whoever you're making enemies with. We're an anti-DDoS service, not an anti-hacker service.
MONEY-news
QUOTE (Skyree @ Jun 25 2008, 09:36 PM) *
Since when has our credibility been in question? Sounds like someone put you up to that comment, imo.

You should really have a look here to find out. dry.gif

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Blcc-Gold-D...96#entry4914096
Skyree
QUOTE (MONEY-news @ Jun 25 2008, 04:41 PM) *
You should really have a look here to find out. dry.gif

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Blcc-Gold-D...96#entry4914096


The result of extortion, I don't suspect it will be up for long.
MONEY-news
QUOTE (Skyree @ Jun 25 2008, 09:44 PM) *
The result of extortion, I don't suspect it will be up for long.

Why do you think so? Because it's the truth? furious.gif I think you should at least give us an explanation regarding all this stuff. If you don't do it I will consider it to be the truth. Even if it's removed the truth can't be hidden.
Skyree
QUOTE (MONEY-news @ Jun 25 2008, 05:06 PM) *
Why do you think so? Because it's the truth? furious.gif I think you should at least give us an explanation regarding all this stuff. If you don't do it I will consider it to be the truth. Even if it's removed the truth can't be hidden.


What specifically would you like an explanation of? The only accusations made were taken out of context or were carbon copies of other user's also baseless accusations.

If you'll form an actual question based on legitimate facts that isn't phrased in the form of an attack or accusation itself i'd be happy to answer it.
besthyipstoday
so this site has ended or there is something left here
MONEY-news
QUOTE (besthyipstoday @ Jun 26 2008, 03:56 AM) *
so this site has ended or there is something left here

The site is running in its Round 2 with 71 active members already. Hopefully soon the first payouts will be processed.
besthyipstoday
QUOTE (MONEY-news @ Jun 26 2008, 11:21 AM) *
The site is running in its Round 2 with 71 active members already. Hopefully soon the first payouts will be processed.


thanks for the update i will try to avoid this site if problem continues
optimale
QUOTE (Hula @ Jun 25 2008, 03:42 PM) *
And just what would you suggest? dry.gif


What do I suggest?

rofl4.gif

Nevermind.
rolleyes.gif

Round 2 everyone!

cheer12.gif cheer12.gif cheer12.gif

QUOTE (davileonardo @ Jun 25 2008, 02:22 PM) *
Scammer and thief diablo.gif


Just get this pm and send to one moderator and this scammer will be banned very fast here wink.gif


They already know.
No action taken I know of.

QUOTE (12DailyProAdmin @ Jun 25 2008, 03:56 AM) *
Extortion? No extortion at all. We just tried to get our members' upgrades back as the "hacker" was able to steal over $400.

Read more here:

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Blcc-Gold-D...96#entry4914096


Not extortion?
rolleyes.gif

Either way you couldn't say for sure the hacker was the individual you
sent the PM to.

Joining 12dailypro and losing $100
Watching 2 scammers and one try to extort
the other. Priceless!

Crazy.
Grin01
... back on topic. Smooth surfing today.
12DailyProAdmin
QUOTE (Skyree @ Jun 25 2008, 02:38 PM) *
You seem to be confused:

- You bought better protection, we upgraded you, you came back online. I don't see how or why this is a problem for you.
- You're not on a protected network right now
- Your hacking problems are between you and whoever you're making enemies with. We're an anti-DDoS service, not an anti-hacker service.

Posted a reply in the appropriate thread.
tudodetudo
Admin, where is my money?

12DailyProAdmin
QUOTE (tudodetudo @ Jun 26 2008, 06:55 AM) *
Admin, where is my money?

We had some serious problems with our business, that's why we had to stop our program and refund what was left on our e-currency accounts. Unfortunately this was only enough to pay back 5% of members' losses. We have restarted our program with a new strategy behind it and will refund additional 45% of your losses depending on how good we do
desire1
Always got paid fast from this site
Upgraded in the second round, waiting for Admin to add my upgrade
Remember always to play with the money you can offer to give away
Good luck!!!
noema
Another withdrawal for referral commissions in round 2

QUOTE
Date: 2008-26-06 21:20:50
Batch: 3720290
From Account: U7956114
Amount: $0.36
Memo: 12daily.pro payout
MONEY-news
QUOTE (desire1 @ Jun 26 2008, 07:26 PM) *
Always got paid fast from this site
Upgraded in the second round, waiting for Admin to add my upgrade
Remember always to play with the money you can offer to give away
Good luck!!!

Some golden words have been said finally. I hope Round 2 will last much longer than Round 1. Good luck to all! wink.gif
adex
I hope so that I think they have added New payment processor biggrin.gif
Bestcodemaker
Good luck to everyone who was in round 2 biggrin.gif
sarsons
QUOTE (Ryz* @ Jun 24 2008, 10:42 AM) *
Okay...

Just for my own edification, Admin, are you announcing the end of this program, or playing the "Round 2, round 3..." game?


This is round 2 of the scam.

When this one scams it'll be round 3 and so on.

Keep away - do not support a scammer like the admin here.
MONEY-news
QUOTE (sarsons @ Jun 27 2008, 08:34 AM) *
This is round 2 of the scam.

When this one scams it'll be round 3 and so on.

Keep away - do not support a scammer like the admin here.

I know at least several programs that lasted for a couple of rounds, and I can't say nothing wrong about them. If you keep saying like this you will simply not get your 50% refund from Round 1. If you were in profit, then you're free to participate or not. It's all up to you. At least, give the admin a chance!
desire1
upgrade added, thanks Admin
Sotherby
Well. I have lost a big amount of money with this program. I have made a new Upgrade and it expires the next 5 days. I hope, that I get back remaining 45% of my loss in the second round. rolleyes.gif

The only what I asks me is, he wants to pay from what? The same tactics like with 5%? This would not feel well. I think, all us who give him with a new Upgrade a new chance should be recompensed for it. A reward should look in such a way that round for round we receives a payback to the complete UP loss before 15./16. …. completely paid has agreed.

If 12daily can create this, then we can say that it is an Admin who is different of all usual scamer….. a Admin who don´t hides themselve behind all the rules of all the usual scamerprograms… and rests on it. If he creates this - to pay back all them the whole losses - then he comes into the history of the surfing programes and belongs to be one of the biggest in this area.

Admin… this you should realy consider. You can create it and many of us are certainly ready to help you to reach it. You must only want it. We expect an honest and concrete answer and no excuses. peace.gif

Sorry, if my English is no so good blush.gif ... but I think is good enough to understend what I say and I mean rolleyes.gif
Grin01
Surfed smoothly for today.
vidforall
QUOTE (MONEY-news @ Jun 26 2008, 01:40 PM) *
Some golden words have been said finally. I hope Round 2 will last much longer than Round 1. Good luck to all! wink.gif

hope so . good luck for us.
Sotherby
QUOTE (vidforall @ Jun 28 2008, 07:02 AM) *
hope so . good luck for us.



Hope so too rolleyes.gif good luck
lolaa
Admin I sent you a support ticket few days ago but still waiting for ur reply!
indiana
QUOTE (lolaa @ Jun 28 2008, 05:03 PM) *
Admin I sent you a support ticket few days ago but still waiting for ur reply!


There seems to be no reply for this M.I.A admin. unsure.gif
Skyree
QUOTE (indiana @ Jun 28 2008, 07:36 PM) *
There seems to be no reply for this M.I.A admin. unsure.gif


Don't worry, i'm sure he'll be back to blame me for ruining his program.
12DailyProAdmin
QUOTE (lolaa @ Jun 28 2008, 05:03 PM) *
Admin I sent you a support ticket few days ago but still waiting for ur reply!

Sent you a PM. If you don't get your ticket answered within 24 hours, feel free to PM me on one of the forums as there could have been problems with mail delivery.
Grin01
There were more sites in rotation today. We're slowly getting there.
ebusinessgate
Admin - can we have an update on refunds from round 1? I know you state based on the success of round 2 you will refund an additional 45% on top of the refunded 5%, but I think it would be good if we could have some kind of timeline on that refund, ie 5% will be refunded on this date, 5% on this date etc.

I feel Having some kind of refund plan to follow and sticking to it will help your reputation and aid in bringing in more investment to round 2.

Thanks,
Stephanie.
sarsons
QUOTE (MONEY-news @ Jun 27 2008, 01:11 AM) *
I know at least several programs that lasted for a couple of rounds, and I can't say nothing wrong about them. If you keep saying like this you will simply not get your 50% refund from Round 1. If you were in profit, then you're free to participate or not. It's all up to you. At least, give the admin a chance!


why give a failed scammer a second chance?
12DailyProAdmin
QUOTE (ebusinessgate @ Jun 29 2008, 07:00 AM) *
Admin - can we have an update on refunds from round 1? I know you state based on the success of round 2 you will refund an additional 45% on top of the refunded 5%, but I think it would be good if we could have some kind of timeline on that refund, ie 5% will be refunded on this date, 5% on this date etc.

I feel Having some kind of refund plan to follow and sticking to it will help your reputation and aid in bringing in more investment to round 2.

Thanks,
Stephanie.

We can not give you an exact schedule for this process. Refunds will be processed from the bottom to the top starting with member ID# 1 in form of full 45% bonuses.

We have processed the refunds for members with ID's 1-102. Please note that you have to be an upgraded member to request a withdrawal.
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