That's great Foxcar. Ans guess what ? He believed ON you as well. He beived all over you and the rest of us.....
I have written off my investment here and have to move on. But I pity my immediate downline who invested her hard earned $500. She even reinvested her 2 withdrawals back into the system before Admin announced all those changes. She never come into this forum and totally not knowing what is happening.
georgem
Apr 14 2008, 03:44 AM
QUOTE (emperor @ Apr 14 2008, 03:36 AM)
I have written off my investment here and have to move on. But I pity my immediate downline who invested her hard earned $500. She even reinvested her 2 withdrawals back into the system before Admin announced all those changes. She never come into this forum and totally not knowing what is happening.
That's OK. Just tell her what we know....Or what we know about most Admins's and the programs......
FleshPro
Apr 14 2008, 03:52 AM
Admin never aproved my sites.Something not good here
MONEY-news
Apr 14 2008, 04:07 AM
It's really a shame to end the program like this, Robert! I hope you will be back here and explain everything but as time is running out I start to doubt in your good intentions!
georgem
Apr 14 2008, 04:15 AM
QUOTE (FleshPro @ Apr 14 2008, 06:52 AM)
Admin never aproved my sites.Something not good here
Your kidding right ???? I would not take that at all. I suggest you contact the PTS Commission at once !!!!!
sarsons
Apr 14 2008, 06:18 AM
QUOTE (SurfLibertadAdmin @ Apr 10 2008, 07:55 PM)
Dear members, please wait for me, I have a very important update to all of you, it would seem like I would pay everyone their balances in the previous database with some profit, although not 130% maybe around 5% profitto 12% profit only, and from there on, after I pay you all within 3 to 5 days time, I will just close shop and re-open with a new website after some time, I am having a very hard time working on the investments but luckily I am able to produce some funds for paying out.
Sill waiting admin.
Guess you are, and were aleways planning to, turn this into a scam after a few days after all.
hughledu
Apr 14 2008, 06:33 AM
QUOTE (MONEY-news @ Apr 14 2008, 04:07 AM)
It's really a shame to end the program like this, Robert! I hope you will be back here and explain everything but as time is running out I start to doubt in your good intentions!
I think so. hope everything will be fine. good luck for us.
frabi
Apr 14 2008, 11:03 AM
Edit: spam
ExecutiveLady
Apr 14 2008, 11:22 AM
It's over here too.
Hope we can all be more discerning and stick to the programs that are paying us and support them.It's been one failure after another in these last few months.
My humble suggestion to all members, is, don't join any new programs for now because there is a at least a 50% chance that it's the same admins starting over with funds from their last "failure"' or "scam".
Thanks and take care,everyone.
oldsalt
Apr 14 2008, 12:09 PM
QUOTE (ExecutiveLady @ Apr 14 2008, 11:22 AM)
It's over here too.
Hope we can all be more discerning and stick to the programs that are paying us and support them.It's been one failure after another in these last few months.
My humble suggestion to all members, is, don't join any new programs for now because there is a at least a 50% chance that it's the same admins starting over with funds from their last "failure"' or "scam".
Thanks and take care,everyone.
They say insanity can be defined as doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.
Well we must be the craziest bunch of people on the planet for continuing to inflict this pain on ourselfs.
You all can have this insanity I'm done.
oldsalt
georgem
Apr 14 2008, 12:20 PM
QUOTE (oldsalt @ Apr 14 2008, 03:09 PM)
They say insanity can be defined as doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.
Well we must be the craziest bunch of people on the planet for continuing to inflict this pain on ourselfs.
You all can have this insanity I'm done.
oldsalt
Hold on there Sailor.....we need all hands. Now turn too!!!!!
shadowkat
Apr 14 2008, 01:59 PM
QUOTE (oldsalt @ Apr 14 2008, 02:09 PM)
They say insanity can be defined as doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.
Well we must be the craziest bunch of people on the planet for continuing to inflict this pain on ourselfs.
You all can have this insanity I'm done.
oldsalt
That sentence speaks volumes. This whole year, thus far, has been tumultuous at best. Established members or new members, everyone wants to run a program. You see how the majority of the programs have turned out and its only 3-1/2 months into the new year. I, too, have donated enough of my money to these SOB's, and am stepping back. Good luck everyone with the other programs you're involved in.
emperor
Apr 14 2008, 03:39 PM
I am surprise that Surflibertad site is still online and still receiving sign ups and large payments from unsuspecting investors. If Admin is honest (so far he makes us belief he is honest and caring) he should bring down the site immediately. I suspect Robert is buying time here with his pending news (looks like a scamming tactic ) so that he can withdraw all his ill gotten earnings from the various payment processors. I encourage all members to do a charge back immediately before the scammer gets away the money.
munnymachine
Apr 14 2008, 03:52 PM
Congratulations Rob, you've convinced at least two great members to leave this arena. (if I understood them right.)
JACOBKELL
Apr 14 2008, 04:40 PM
QUOTE (emperor @ Apr 14 2008, 04:39 PM)
I am surprise that Surflibertad site is still online and still receiving sign ups and large payments from unsuspecting investors. If Admin is honest (so far he makes us belief he is honest and caring) he should bring down the site immediately. I suspect Robert is buying time here with his pending news (looks like a scamming tactic ) so that he can withdraw all his ill gotten earnings from the various payment processors. I encourage all members to do a charge back immediately before the scammer gets away the money.
Well probaly.I mean it's impossible to do ALL payments one day.
Tamara
Apr 14 2008, 05:23 PM
Oh Robert... what are you doing? You PROMISED all these good people you would always be here and you were NOT a scammer! There were a LOT of BIG investors here Robert and you are just going to end it like this? With not even so much as a "farewell" statement
Looks like we all got SUCKED right in to another one I can see now why some of the "veterans" and even the "newbies" want to leave this industry. There is ENTIRELY TOO MANY ADMIN "CLAIMING" TO BE "HONEST", WHEN ALL THEY REALLY WANT TO DO IS SUCK YOU IN AND TAKE YOU'RE HARD EARNED MONEY!
I really hope you had a nice "vacation" at your members expense. I hope you will come back in here and prove us all wrong Robert.
fxoscar
Apr 14 2008, 06:49 PM
i'm still waiting for you rob. Don't let me down...
bernado
Apr 14 2008, 07:05 PM
wats happen? whats happen?
any news from robert?
JoePanda
Apr 14 2008, 07:12 PM
QUOTE (Tamara @ Apr 14 2008, 08:23 PM)
Oh Robert... what are you doing? You PROMISED all these good people you would always be here and you were NOT a scammer! There were a LOT of BIG investors here Robert and you are just going to end it like this? With not even so much as a "farewell" statement
Looks like we all got SUCKED right in to another one I can see now why some of the "veterans" and even the "newbies" want to leave this industry. There is ENTIRELY TOO MANY ADMIN "CLAIMING" TO BE "HONEST", WHEN ALL THEY REALLY WANT TO DO IS SUCK YOU IN AND TAKE YOU'RE HARD EARNED MONEY!
I really hope you had a nice "vacation" at your members expense. I hope you will come back in here and prove us all wrong Robert.
Hello,
You say it so true in words, When an admin claims to be honest they are not, If an admin is honest they do not need to tell us of such things, We are so free to give trust and honesty, just cause we see so many members joining and numbers going up we think get in now. and then if we get out we win and that make for many fast sites.
i hope to see more people joining in some sites by known and trust admins who establish them selves and not just come in one day buy lots of advertising and gone when advertising is over.
Thanks Joe
p911ruf
Apr 14 2008, 09:46 PM
Another SCAM just like the rest... I guess no more honest ROB
-max-
Apr 14 2008, 10:51 PM
omg only one day i didn't look this topic and admin was banned, theme moving to closed section... so good bye another honest admin - Robert
emperor
Apr 14 2008, 11:11 PM
QUOTE (-max- @ Apr 15 2008, 02:51 PM)
omg only one day i didn't look this topic and admin was banned, theme moving to closed section... so good bye another honest admin - Robert
Yes we were sold by Robert. So much for honesty, bloody Robert !!! Well the law of KARMA applies to everyone. Robert will get the same treatment from others sometimes in his life. Robert remember this!
JACOBKELL
Apr 15 2008, 03:06 AM
So my prediction was good.I know money cannot be backed by offline investments,beacuse selling ratio would never cover promised roi.For example,let's say i open investment fund and invest in let's say caffe bar.I could manage to get into profit,but that profit would be always same,and would not be able to cover promised roi.Well in any case i am glad i invested here only 5$(and i got 1$ which was during daily cashout time).Well one thing is sure-as yoda said,people should start to learn make good money itself instead depending on some scamming admins.
georgem
Apr 15 2008, 03:41 AM
QUOTE (bernado @ Apr 14 2008, 10:05 PM)
wats happen? whats happen?
any news from robert?
The music stopped. And as always: "Not enough chairs."..................
angelice
Apr 15 2008, 05:37 AM
QUOTE (p911ruf @ Apr 15 2008, 01:46 PM)
Another SCAM just like the rest... I guess no more honest ROB
i cant believe Robert is this kind of person. He is honest , right ? i cant believe ! i cant believe !!!! where is Robert now ? Please come out and say something ...
desire1
Apr 15 2008, 06:42 AM
QUOTE (georgem @ Apr 15 2008, 12:41 PM)
The music stopped. And as always: "Not enough chairs."..................
the last chair was taken... I was in profit & did not reupgraded I am sorry for all of you & better luck next time!
-max-
Apr 15 2008, 07:51 AM
QUOTE (desire1 @ Apr 15 2008, 04:42 PM)
the last chair was taken... I was in profit & did not reupgraded I am sorry for all of you & better luck next time!
i'm not in profit, but lost not much.. but will not be disordered.. we will find better surf projects are enough
Henrys
Apr 15 2008, 09:09 AM
QUOTE (-max- @ Apr 15 2008, 10:51 AM)
omg only one day i didn't look this topic and admin was banned, theme moving to closed section...
Admin was banned? Rob is still online???
georgem
Apr 15 2008, 10:48 AM
QUOTE (Henrys @ Apr 15 2008, 12:09 PM)
Admin was banned? Rob is still online???
Why sure Henry Known as Robo1, check him out.....
monyman
Apr 15 2008, 12:28 PM
This admin should be paying back members according to his plans...He would not want to have a future meeting with THE S.E.C.......THAT WOULD NOT BE GOOD......he better stop this type of behaviour fast.
Tucano
Apr 15 2008, 12:33 PM
QUOTE (-max- @ Apr 15 2008, 07:51 AM)
omg only one day i didn't look this topic and admin was banned, theme moving to closed section... so good bye another honest admin - Robert
HONEST ADMIN ???
He keep with the money of several people !
A great scammer just like any other !
KVakinov
Apr 15 2008, 12:34 PM
QUOTE (angelice @ Apr 15 2008, 07:37 AM)
i cant believe Robert is this kind of person. He is honest , right ? i cant believe ! i cant believe !!!! where is Robert now ? Please come out and say something ...
How long have you been surfing?
georgem
Apr 15 2008, 01:38 PM
QUOTE (monyman @ Apr 15 2008, 03:28 PM)
This admin should be paying back members according to his plans...He would not want to have a future meeting with THE S.E.C.......THAT WOULD NOT BE GOOD......he better stop this type of behaviour fast.
Hmmmm... Good point...But friend, but we would not want to be in that meeting either.......
Some smart guy might ask: "What were you fools thinking ???"
JACOBKELL
Apr 15 2008, 01:57 PM
Btw mods what other username has been used by admin here?
-max-
Apr 15 2008, 02:32 PM
QUOTE (Tucano @ Apr 15 2008, 11:33 PM)
HONEST ADMIN ???
He keep with the money of several people !
A great scammer just like any other !
lol.. i wrote not in direct sense
Tamara
Apr 15 2008, 02:32 PM
Well Robert... I'm sure you've read these latest posts. Nothing to say or what? If your not going to respond to us and you're done... TAKE YOUR DAMN SITE DOWN AND QUIT TAKING PEOPLE'S MONEY FOR GOODNESS SAKES
-max-
Apr 15 2008, 02:37 PM
QUOTE (JACOBKELL @ Apr 16 2008, 12:57 AM)
Btw mods what other username has been used by admin here?
i think you can to revise this topic and you will see for whom under avatar "proud" inscription - "banned"
searcher??
Apr 15 2008, 04:58 PM
Closed programs are programs whose administrators have officially announced the end to their programs. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Post# 3232 - (Robert Lees' last post):
Dear members, please wait for me, I have a very important update to all of you, it would seem like I would pay everyone their balances in the previous database with some profit, although not 130% maybe around 5% profitto 12% profit only, and from there on, after I pay you all within 3 to 5 days time, I will just close shop and re-open with a new website after some time, I am having a very hard time working on the investments but luckily I am able to produce some funds for paying out.
(The last Robert was heard from...)
However:
Since the re-start of SLA - transferred upgrades don't expirte until April 17. This is April 15 right now.
Post #3233 is emperor 20 minutes later saying happy to receive refunds back - nevermind profit %. (I imagine we'll take what % increase we can get.)
Later emperor states April 14 as THE DAY reckoning is. Post# 3246 on April 12 noted by him as April 13
Don't know what the "urgency" is emperor.(?)
Anyway - from the SLA re-started site - upgrades from start (as mine (I would think)) expire April 17. (new upgrades later would expire at a later date)
Anything that's been said since the re-start is speculating of "what to do". (Nothing that's been confirmed anyhow, to be sure.)
Emperor seems to be jumping the gun. Don't know what the hurry is.
As far as Roberts' last post goes, he wasn't thinking about the new SLA site of 120% he was thinking 130% from the old SLA site (I guesse) being able to go out at 5% to 12% on members upgrades instead.
This is only April 15 still. What is the hurry. Last heard from: he was going to wrap things up, in accordance with his last post (above).
Don't know if you are surfing out to the end of your upgrade or not but not doing so - is at your own risk.
I continue to surf out to the end of upgrade time.
I still have 2 days to go - 16th and 17th. (Not doing so would be missed surfing for the day.)
I have no real idea whether or not Robert Lee is going to make good on his last post but as far as the dates go the time of it all has yet to run its' course.
LadyLuca
Apr 15 2008, 07:04 PM
Well, lost a bit on the P/NP thing, aside a lot of days surfing for nothing...
We never know how honest they are, till they shows the true for us, for this I never say "honest admin", I just say thanks for a good job
Que arda no fogo do inferno, junto aos outros scammers!
JoePanda
Apr 15 2008, 07:19 PM
QUOTE (-max- @ Apr 15 2008, 05:37 PM)
i think you can to revise this topic and you will see for whom under avatar "proud" inscription - "banned"
Hello,
I go many pages back and i only find the banned under his id, can you tell us who else he was?
Thank you Joe
PS, if not here you can send me in pm.
Jobouknow
Apr 15 2008, 07:28 PM
All I do know as that I had a suspicion, seen this style before, and happend to notice a newer surf also seems familiar as to the way this admin handles himself, so who knows. I can't point fingers because I don't know for sure but it is very likely nobody will see their funds back. So they way I see it, another has come and gone time to move on. I don't get the forum often enough to do detective work, and of course i am disappointed.
bernado
Apr 15 2008, 09:16 PM
Wats happen to robert?
is he running away with our money?
well i dont expect too much from him...
he isnt GOD, he is just another fools like us.
human whos trying to get rich but do nothing?
well moved on guys... life is cruel!!!
I WANT MY MONEY BACK ROBERT!!!
HAHAHHAHAHA
sarsons
Apr 15 2008, 10:00 PM
It was obvious what was going to happen - closing the original plan down because he ran out of money.
It was then too late - the site had become scam - the rest he was just playing with members.
-max-
Apr 15 2008, 10:48 PM
QUOTE (JoePanda @ Apr 16 2008, 05:19 AM)
Hello,
I go many pages back and i only find the banned under his id, can you tell us who else he was?
Thank you Joe
PS, if not here you can send me in pm.
hi JoePanda i looked a theme from beginning and found these banned users - SurfLibertadAdmin, Myprecious and romeoromeo.. Myprecious writes much posts, especially first pages..
regards, max
gwenq
Apr 15 2008, 11:49 PM
The signs were there it was just the timing for all players I guess.
Still for admin's sake he will get what's coming to him .... in the end ...
JoePanda
Apr 16 2008, 12:30 AM
QUOTE (-max- @ Apr 16 2008, 01:48 AM)
hi JoePanda i looked a theme from beginning and found these banned users - SurfLibertadAdmin, Myprecious and romeoromeo.. Myprecious writes much posts, especially first pages..
regards, max
Hello,
Thank you, I seen them other ones in other places but bann form long before,
I wish the ip addres was posted so it make see things easier. also we can see who are form what part the world. and when admin ay from usa and they have bad english.
If we start stick together maybe we can have the days you guys talk about that were nice days.
Thank you Joe
MONEY-news
Apr 16 2008, 12:42 AM
QUOTE (-max- @ Apr 16 2008, 06:48 AM)
hi JoePanda i looked a theme from beginning and found these banned users - SurfLibertadAdmin, Myprecious and romeoromeo.. Myprecious writes much posts, especially first pages..
regards, max
I don't know about myprecious but Romeoromeo was a part of Jamie/Michael gang from PSTraffic for sure.
-max-
Apr 16 2008, 02:35 AM
QUOTE (MONEY-news @ Apr 16 2008, 11:42 AM)
I don't know about myprecious but Romeoromeo was a part of Jamie/Michael gang from PSTraffic for sure.
i can't say what names he had, but i think myprecious it's one of them.. on top pages myprecious writes often, when a theme is not strongly active yet.. unfortunately Yippee doesn't write what names exactly used admin.. but, it does not matter to my mind..
JACOBKELL
Apr 16 2008, 03:30 AM
I knowed this going to happen since day when he closed daily payouts.Practicly same approach as MT case,only without hacking thingies.
Wildthang
Apr 16 2008, 12:57 PM
I usually don't participate on these forums, although I do participate in the programs.
Just wanted to say that this guy could be a man and go out at least looking like a human being who screwed up big time, rather than a coward and a cheat. I suppose that's what he is, though.
That being said, we take the chance of losing our money every time we put it in these kinds of programs. We don't know anyone on the web from Adam and we can't really believe anything they say. Nice, pretty words and promises don't mean squat. Bottom line is, can you get in and out before you lose? And who knows when the bottom will fall out.
Take the site down for God's sake. Stupid me has still been surfing up until today, thinking there might be a decent bone in your body. LOL.
I'm not mad, I feel kinda sad knowing what kind of karma is coming to this guy.
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