We all hope...DH back again...

Really feel sad for the big investors here..

I saw the biggest deposit was 2500$ which is swashbuckling and I don't know what would have I done if I lost such a massive amt..I would have gone mad probly..

But, since the profit was 40%, I just took a chance with 30$ deposit and recovered 10$ out of it which is a net loss of 20$..

I guess people should now realise that Old MMG member+Good security and script+Good plans(no 140% big plans)=contribute to success..

Just my humble opinion to all..

Hmmm...

I can feel that this will happen soon here

Just saying "I'm sad and feeling cry"


I'm lose my money here about $120 from my invested $200.



I'm thinking will invest last my money to FPP programe.Hoping its will recover my money grow



From SigmaAOS

Hyips always comes and goes so it is not a surprise when the time it has to come to game over stage. Harsh reality but u guys got to accept it. Invest in whichever amount u can afford to lose.

Damn, I was in $10 profit... Why I invested $60 in evening when Rays accnt was not under only his control. I hate such things.

Luckily i make big dollars in the stock market daily doesn't have to stress out in the hyips world. As i am not depending on hyips for a living.

HYIP = High Yield Investment Program (with high risk)
Why are we complaining ?!!
We know RULES of all hyips !

Can I lose money?
There is a risk involved with investing in all high yield investment programs.

Please be extinct !

Remember : Royal-Pay , ArivaFund , TimesProfit , ..... , and now desireSHyip
All of them were HYIP with the same RULES

I have a job and I earn money offline. My life doesn't depends on hyips too. But I can't be not stressed when I lose something especially money.

Why don't you shoot me a pm with what you need to say...

Back to the topic: Well, everyone here are not dependent on HYIP's I guess, the only thing everyone wants is extra money to party!!

I've tried to read last pages of this and I still cant figure out what happen here
Liberty Reserve acc of DesiresHyip ws hacked ?!
Site is under DDOS
Admin ran away ?!

I've deposited with AlertPay here so I suppose I shoud fill a refund claim with AlertPay or wait admin answer on this ?!
Thank you

If Ray were to scam us, he would have waited for a couple more weeks to collect more deposit. DH had not even warmup yet. Why would he runaway so early? Doesn't make sense. What say you?

l really care about the refund now . And for Ray - l just hope the best for you next time you venture on things like this ; cause worth doing is worth doing well .

I agree with you asgardian,

Im so dissappointed that it has to happen like this.. why you hackers and all those who attacked DH didnt hack and DDOSed other junk programs that now comes & tomorrow leave us?!
Im really sorry for you guys , those who lost big amounts, i was between those that compounded a half and the rest withdrawed, so my loss was $200 from my intioal of $400. Its a lot for me too... but thats it .. nothing to do now.

I just hope no hyip in this world will use GC script.. they are the biggest thiefs, wait until there are enough funds and then hit. Its not the first time when i hear this so i fully belive ray..

Be cool ray and we`re waiting for your next stepts..

Hy all,

Please everyone of you as I said you from beginning, I am not here to get rich with stolen money, I have better job outside this virtual world to earn a better life style. I just wanted to offer you an opportunity and let you know that old days will be back & so do the other admins will follow the trend.
Im telling this because some "i know everything" guys keeps spreading the word that im guilty for this failure. Yes i might be , because like most of you i didnt belive in those stories that GC might let some backdoors in their script so they could rip off everything later. I thought that only non-licensed script could be hacked , but as u know this script was bought with license too and all files were zend encoded so nobody could change, hack, break nothing in the script.

As I said, all money transferred to my LR account will be given back for refunds. I wont have any profit too for this hacker’s work. I will keep only my FPP deposit $1200 invested and the money came back. I still have to receive $480 (because the rest returned to DH acc), and this will be my share that I will keep in my account after this entire venture.


Now, coming back to refunds as I promised you, I am waiting AP to exchange the funds funds , around 1k to E-Gold. So I will be able to mix EG with LR and set a correct percentage for everyone. I don’t want to refund AP users 100% and LR users just a lil amount.

The most annoying thing that happened until, and i still cant sort it out, is DH DATABASE from our HOSTING PROVIDER. As I told you, he cleared my site before letting me move to other hosting provider after I asked $1100 refund from him. This is not a professional mode to treat a client even he asked you a refund. I am still buzzing him on YM but, he doesn’t bother to answer me. I will let you know his e-mail and YM, if he wont do this until the night, so you all ask him for database back because its close to 700 member’s money which I can’t let it go.

Ray

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Let's go to this forum...give me refund or go to DH again Ray...
Nice to see u in here....

I have lost here 380 $

I think server admin hacked it. Give me the YM & e-mail

desireS,

i believe you before with my $190 deposit in DH.And now i still believe in you with your action to refund.

DO THE BEST RAY...
I deposit in DH before site is done (by LR $225)...i realy hope u can found the solution and give us your update.....
Member DH: Gendut

Hope that LR support help Desires

How you will compensate, if the database is stolen ?

Each Hosting company has a backup of the programs that were hosted on their sv. For now he refuse to give me that because he`s mad on me because i asked him the refund after the site was hacked.
But i`ve alredy told him im gonna let you know his YM and his email if he wont return that until the night. Here is money involved and he cant get this properly.
As you probably remarked i still refuse to give provider`s name only because Dave asked me this for his & our program safety(that was before) . But if i wont recive any answer from him, you`ll be able to contact him and ask for that.

i dont think soo that server admin do this i will not agree with u on this
and secondly i am very sorry for u RAY i was not here for last 4 days
i just came today and see that urs site has been hacked i know the
pain which u having now but i think people are also having worring about there
money becasue thats ther money i will apperiate yurs urgent response about the
refunds and hope u make a good decision
i will say only that u have my full support
thxs
ADIZ

i made deposit via myAP. i never got paid this amount
hope AP refund

and my LR amount are all commion.
if you impossible, i dont needed my LR amount

A nice site, a good plan, an honest Admin - not enaugh to run a site
my respect to Ray, it was a promising start, never say never again!

congratulations to all those honest admins that succeed in running their sites

Ray is honest , he had no blame on this , but there is still this thing on the air...

Offer the hosting provider a small amount for service, like 200$ and ask for the rest. If he promised DDoS protection and couldn't keep this promise, he doesn't deserve the money.

Since RAY promise to refund, keep arguing will not give much result.

Ray, can i give you a simple advice?

If for you is important recover your reliability, you could hand out some proofs. The best solution for me (if there is a solution in the virtual world), could be showing yuor hacked LR screenshot. All af us so could see the 16.000$ transaction on the sreenshot.

Is it a good way?

*Sorry if my english is bad.

Don't be so naive. If he wanted to refund us he would be able to do it without the database. Remember that all the transactions are stored in LR and AP history of the transfers. Even if he refunds say 30% it will not make him an honest admin because he will keep 70% of all members' funds. And I simply don't believe his hacking stories and excuses! Why on earth did he keep accepting new deposits for 15 more hours if he knew already that the damage had been done? Think about it. There are way too much discrepancies in his story. And of course he has a hidden agenda still hanging on here in hope of sucking in more money from all of you.

That's a good proposition. All we heard until now were words, give us some evidence.

I feel sorry for all those of you who have lost, me included
and, I feel the admin agony about this because, I'm admin myself and already
have an experience with my egold account been hacked all the money just flew away.
It really hurts...
But that's a price we have to pay when we all need fast cashouts it's a damn big risk.

And, I never trusted in those enconded scripts by GC or whatever... You never
know what the really code is...

But, this is an arena full of hackers,scammers and greedy people.
So, everyone know the risks...

Life goes on...

I hope a fast recover to all

Fully agree that this is one of the best way to silent all the critics and accusers.

The screen will shown your account no, the amount transferred and the hacker's account number and the date/time.

Scam programs are a dime a dozen but honest Admin are few and far apart.

I think we all members need to organise a petition or a way to get the Host Admin to release the DB to Ray. If not thre refund process will be at a stand still.

Though it must be done peacefully and in right approach or he may get pissed off and refuse further.

I hope the hacker will be run over by a BEER TRUCK . . . . . . . . . .

I don't agree..........................

The program was RED HOT ! It could easily continue to operate and hit $100K.

Why would he stop the program at this point of time for a measly $16K ?

Why would he still remain to explain what happen and face the music when he can just disappear ? ?

Though I agree that he can definitely refund through the payment records in his LR and AP accounts.

I see a lot of you able to understanding about API, GC, interfaces, e-currency etc etc....
So: is there anybody who would like to contact GC and speak about our situation? if you succeed to chat with some Admin or Support of theese services, you can make a screenshot of your chat.

That is something that puzzles me also...
Long after the claimed hacks.......the site continued to accept deposits...
I made a deposit maybe 18 hours after this hack story..
I am hoping Ray will refund my money and do the right thing..




Yup.....that makes sense!!

screenshot doesn't matter cauze I can make any fake screenshot you wish, it will be even better than original
The question is why admin was almost crying in the night when he got that his website hacked but still accepted new deposits?
I don't take the side of admin and I don't take the side of scam screamers. I just know that I lost $60 in moment when admin could prevent us to make spends.

Either way its short money if they did scam us, had they stuck it out they would of been able to make more all year if they wanted to run a legitimate site. It just makes it harder for any site now that will try to compete with bpp and fpp because they will have to prove they are good.

This is a tricky problem here. Seeing so many pages back and realize that the site is been hacked....poor desireS what has happen to you? currently we should support him as he is trying very hard work which end up been hack.

is an license GC script that easy to be hack?

I lost here too as you all…
I am now convinced DesieS will not refund any body
Read this from the other site http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showthread. php?p=2335775&highlight=desireshyip#post2335775

another scam hyip ?? what is going on to this great thread hyip ??

what happen man ??

That's the internet all over. I mean, look at your signature for bux.to

Account balance $ 4,467.71
Total Amount Paid $ 0.00

Lots of sites look good on paper but can you get dollars into your hand? If you showed $4k
in your Paypal account I would think more of the program.

Now here it was a 7 day program. So you must get in within minutes of it starting.

I did here but with e-gold which then didn't count so I was a few hours late getting in with LR

After 6 days of payments I made 20%. Good. I was within an hour or two of making the last payment and 40% profit but hey, 20% is good and I'm not greedy.

Whatever the reason for the site stopping, the rules follow - get in early; get your stake out; invest the profits.

Sorry for those who lost out here.

Here endeth the lesson according to smacksman!

What's admin saying about the refund ; no updates as to whether it is still feasible .

Ok usually I dont get involved in these things but since this guy is running around speaking untruths about me and my company I must respond. I will explain the entire situation involving secureservertech, my hosting company, dave from bpro, and this desire hyip.

Ok, Dave from bpro is one of my best customers, a very honest person with successful programs and has referred quite a few people to me, all of which are still with me. Dave went out of his way to help ray in his entire situation.

Ray comes to me saying that he needs hosting but ddos protection is not important so he signs up for the lowest possible plan for HYIp sites which is $200. Protection on this varies from 250mbit to 500 mbit against bandwidth related attacks and includes protection against all server level attacks. I had explained in FULL how the protection works and the options if you break the barrier of what plan you pay for.

The protection beyond this is a protection called secureport our datacenter offers. We do not make hardly anything on these so we usually refer people directly to the datacenter to have it setup.

Ray knew in detail and signed up saying ddos will not be an issue. So the other day he gets an a good size ddos.

Destination IP: 72.20.41.195
Destination Server ID: 322
Start Time: [Thu Jan 10 06:51:00 2008]
End Time: Please Check Client Services
Rate: 1,599,837 KiloBits Per Second

The basic protection that desire was on will rarely protect against this as it will null route automatically. This was never a guarantee to ray for this. So he pms me with a very abusive behavior. I had told him what the network charges to mitigate this level of attack and guarantee it.

After giving him the quote he became even more abusive and demanded that I put his site up as if I was the one who took it down. Then accusing me of scamming him and lots of other things. So I basically told him if he wants secureport protection to contact the network directly.

After a few more hours of the site going up and down due to null routes he finally decided he wants the secureport protection. I told him to go directly to network for this. But he goes on an don about how its my duty as a host to do it and if I didn't he was going to go post bad reviews and all this. So as a favor to dave since he was the one who referred him I accepted the order, money went directly to network with us not making a penny.

And again he did not sign up for the level of protection needed to guard against these type of attacks. More attacks came only this time bigger.

Destination IP: 72.20.41.195
Destination Server ID: 322
Start Time: [Thu Jan 10 20:32:52 2008]
End Time: Please Check Client Services
Rate: 2,681,260 KiloBits Per Second

Destination IP: 72.20.41.195
Destination Server ID: 322
Start Time: [Fri Jan 11 03:58:52 2008]
End Time: Please Check Client Services
Rate: 3,293,361 KiloBits Per Second

He had bought a securport plan for $1100 which only guarantees protection up to 750-1000mbit. he knew this very well and was explained what would happen if attacks come bigger then that yet he demanded we put him on that plan.

Site null routes due to 2gbit+ attacks.

More abusive messages from this guy. Accusations that somehow we were conspiring to get money off him. First he says there really are no attacks then he accuses me of attacking his site myself!

After more of this he was refunded his money and account terminated for the constant abusive behavior from him.

I dont blame people for trying to save money on these type things and I will try to save them money at any chance I get. I do not profit off these secureport plans so I will always tell people they can go directly through the network. Actually I prefer it this way. I also always give clients full logs and stats of the attacks.. Never in my time doing this (2 years) have I been accused of such things. Anyone can ask any of my customers how I do business and they will tell you I am an honest person and would never bait and switch or rip anyone off.

This guy had tried to pinch every penny he could by signing up for lower protection levels then the attacks he needed to mitigate against and then when it did not block them he was abusive and made accusations and threats.

Finally after he was off the server I hear news of the "supposed lr hack" And I am having lots of people messaging me as if I was the owner of this program or had something to do with it. As well as ray having people pm me with more accusations and threats.

I find it odd that
A. knowing he was getting these huge attacks signing up for a lower protection level, not even trying to consult the network or even look at other hosting companies as I had suggested many times to him.
B. As soon as he found out that he wasnt going to be protected for things that are over 2 times what he was paying for and site is down all of a sudden his lr account is hacked

draw your own conclusions but I wanted to post here and tell my side of the story since ray is going everywhere blaming me for this and that. I assure everyone that me and especially dave had went out of their way to help him. it is no one's fault but his own.
He had said that since bpro and fpro could stay online taking on the attacks they do and it was same people attacking as was him that somehow we was scamming him. As he was explained as well dave pays for the protection he gets and even then we have to manually block attacks at times. it is by far not a 100% thing and there is a balance to blocking attacks and keeping legit users from being blocked.

Nevertheless he got what he paid for, demanded more for free when it wasnt enough and was very abusive when he didnt get his way. I had never had such an encounter with a client but I figured it would eventually come. As far as someoen holding his db hostage that is not true. he was provided with details to pick up his backup after account termination so he either has it or doesnt care to get it

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From Talkgold

That's a great reply on TalkGold. So I must say all my assumptions about Ray (by the way, it's not his real name, guys) were true. Beware of this scammer and don't let him scam you again!

l should have known his temperaments . lt got us screwed up .

Another program with a "trusted" MMG member as admin collapsed.