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My name is Erlan Saduakasov and this is to warn you about scammers calling themselves FXOpen.com. I DO NOT OFFER ANY SERVICES to you, and I DO NOT WANT TO SELL YOU ANYTHING. This is only a warning for your information. If you don't want to lose all your money and be robbed by these disgusting cheaters, do not send them any money. They pretend to be a honest Forex broker, but in fact the STEAL your money, in case you begin to gain profit. What they want - is to make the trader lose and take his money. The rough facts are: I deposited 50000 USD to this scam company. I made 80000 USD profit. Then I tried to withdraw my money, but these scammers did not give me my money back. They have just stolen it! The complete story with screenshots and phone calls records is available at http://fxopen.info. I contacted police, Interpol and FBI, and the case is being investigated. I am doing my best to bring this information to everyone. If you gain 500 USD profit - they will withdraw it, and everything seems fine. But in fact, this way they wait for you to deposit USD 5000 or more - and then steal your money. Like a scam HYIP or any other online cheaters. Thank you and I hope you will not let FXopen.com (or whatever other sites they have) cheat on you and steal your money. Regards, Erlan Saduakasov
I don't know that ..... and by the way the link that u give can't opened.... I wanna look at the avidance, because I invest in FXOpen too
Thx QUOTE(bayulim @ Oct 9 2007, 12:18 PM) [snapback]4424252[/snapback] I don't know that ..... and by the way the link that u give can't opened.... I wanna look at the avidance, because I invest in FXOpen too Thx Weird. The link is: http://fxopen.info
And the FXOpen response is..
QUOTE Dear Friends,
Over the last few weeks we have faced a situation whereby a group of people have endeavoured to spread a negative and libelous view of our company, FXOpen on the internet. Up until now, we have not felt the need to bring too much attention to these threats to our integrity, but the situation has now changed. This letter has been drafted to try and explain what is going on and to reveal some of the internal politics of the organisation which we would normally prefer to be kept confidential, in order to diffuse the situation. Everything began with useless spam(including Penis Enlargement and dating sites) which has been sent to our clients again and again (we apologise to our Clients who have received these spam emails. It is unfortunate that some people whom had Manager's status abused the email system for this kind of immoral business). Then, our server began to receive daily hacking attempts to try and crash it and to steal confidential information. This criminal activity is still happening. Now, the situation has arisen, where an anti-FXOpen website has been created...what can we say? - "Much more professional this time our dear ex-friends!". Poltek Business ltd, was a coalition of FXopen Management and other "Partners". Since the beginning of this coalition there was nothing done from the side of "Partners" to develop our business, and all improvement and upgrades were rejected by them. All this was designed to slow the development and business vision of FXOpen. Recently, FXopen management held an emergency meeting, and decided to separate from our "Partners" as the effectiveness of the business was decreasing. Our partners were informed about this and due to a contractual obligation, some clients from former Soviet countries and Russia, had to remain with Poltek Business ltd, and all other clients were retained by FXOpen. As you can understand, this made our ex-partners unhappy (and we can understand them of course) so they began “Operation Client Erlan". The gist of this operation was as follows: Someone named “Erlan”, from Kazakhstan supposedly deposited just over $50,000 on his trading account.Then, during the night a fake position was opened by our former partners. It was 150 lots, which is of course impossible to do with 1:200 leverage and the amount of margin available to the account. We tried to investigate this situation, but immediately, all Manager's accesses were closed off for several minutes. Then, when the server appeared to work normally again, this magical position of "Erlan" was closed manually during the downtime, which was impossible to do for the person without Administrator's access. So, the question is, how was this trade closed, and who closed it when access to the server was closed even to FXOpen Managers? That answer is blindingly obvious. "Erlan" is a client of Poltek, company which the co-owners (our ex-partners) are also co-owners of several other brokerage projects. We ask you to compare the websites of beaverheadfinacial.com , iberiaforex.com , masterforex.org and of course fxopen.info. You can plainly see the "hand of the webmaster" and the similar designs. Our IT department can make a website like this every day. Please check: www.fxjoke.com Regarding communications with "Erlan": 1) The client "Erlan" is registered as citizen of Kazakhstan really under the name Erlan but he even don't know that an account was opened under his name it's first. And second after we change the operational company to Belvedere Inc. and that client contacted us about his account(which belongs to Poltek Business Ltd.) we advised him to email to provide us his real phone number. But he emailed us the following: Hello I have contacted your support once again and they asked for my phone number. Since I am a nephew of a city mayor and I am almost sure my phone line is tapped, I want to keep this information private. Therefore, please use our U.S. phone number for communication. The support team told me you will call today. Please do, I am waiting for your call. The issue is very urgent. Very interesting that the client tries to hide his normal land line phone number from the company which under his opinion has his money? 2) Someone named "Erlan" called our Egyptian representatives and claiming that he is from Pakistan! ...strange... 3) Egyptian support do not have access to any financial records or trading operations of the client as part of our security and confidentiality policy. They are tasked to deal only with basic support issues. There is a standing order, that when a client calls regarding any withdrawal problem, to forward this to the main office and always assure the client that problem will be solved as soon as possible (this is normal customer support etiquette). The query is then forwarded to the main office. 4) The client "Erlan" was always changing his IP addresses and location, and as you see from the whois on "his" website, uses anonymous details to register the website. When the pieces of the puzzle are put together, you can see that "Erlan" is actually a group of people or a company working together who wish to profane the GOOD NAME OF THE COMPANY FXOpen. To see what we think about "Erlan's" website please check this out.. http://fxjoke.com/ We are sure that registration on ‘Erlan’s” website is not safe and details provided on “Erlan’s” website might be used for SPAM ( this was proven several times). This website was created in just 12 minutes by our IT team. Fake details are used throughout the website, as used on "Erlan's" website as you can see, so I hope we can all laugh together at it (http://fxjoke.com/) We understand that "Erlan's" website will hit our reputation somewhat, mostly for people that have never used our services so we are working towards a solution which will put an end to “Operation Erlan" very soon. With this information we provide, we duly request that the Administration of this forum do consider removing mr.Erlan's posts, and links, and to please ban him as soon as possible. PS. We have managed to find the real Erlan Saduakasov and will ask him to report to his local police as his identity appears to have been stolen.
No professional company has time to bother with that crap "Creating joke sites". The chat logs in fxopen.info are very clear, I doubt they are fake. However I still can't decide whether they are scammers or not.
First mistake you did -- depositing very high amount of funds with unregulated property. I would only trust Oanda for such amount. Well, also making these sites may hit their reputation -- actually I am scared myself now -- but we need a final proof from either side and an end to this case to know who is right, who is wrong. QUOTE(GoldGuy @ Oct 9 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]4424939[/snapback] No professional company has time to bother with that crap "Creating joke sites". The chat logs in fxopen.info are very clear, I doubt they are fake. However I still can't decide whether they are scammers or not. First mistake you did -- depositing very high amount of funds with unregulated property. I would only trust Oanda for such amount. Well, also making these sites may hit their reputation -- actually I am scared myself now -- but we need a final proof from either side and an end to this case to know who is right, who is wrong. Well one of the most telling peices of evidence is the fact that this "Erlan" managed to somehow open 150 lots e/u at 1:200 leverage on an account just over $50k. Do the math, it doesn't add up.
I have received a number of emails and phone calls from people who support me and I must thank them all for their participation. On the 9th of October, FXOpen has published a mendacious letter with «comments».
Below is the response. QUOTE Everything began with useless spam(including Penis Enlargement and dating sites) which has been sent to our clients again and again (we apologise to our Clients who have received these spam emails. It is unfortunate that some people whom had Manager's status abused the email system for this kind of immoral business). Then, our server began to receive daily hacking attempts to try and crash it and to steal confidential information. This criminal activity is still happening. Now, the situation has arisen, where an anti-FXOpen website has been created...what can we say? - "Much more professional this time our dear ex-friends!". All the scam companies BEFORE they disappear with all customers' money usually complain about mythic spam and hacker attacks. It has always been this way and FXOpen is one more case. QUOTE Poltek Business ltd, was a coalition of FXopen Management and other "Partners". Since the beginning of this coalition there was nothing done from the side of "Partners" to develop our business, and all improvement and upgrades were rejected by them. All this was designed to slow the development and business vision of FXOpen. Recently, FXopen management held an emergency meeting, and decided to separate from our "Partners" as the effectiveness of the business was decreasing. Our partners were informed about this and due to a contractual obligation, some clients from former Soviet countries and Russia, had to remain with Poltek Business ltd, and all other clients were retained by FXOpen. As you can understand, this made our ex-partners unhappy (and we can understand them of course) so they began “Operation Client Erlan". Actually, these inner relations between you and your partners and whoever else are none of my business. I do not care, what happened between Belveder, Poltek, FXOpen or anyone else. You have stolen my money and I want them back. You «have informed» your partners about customer base division. Can you post a whole list of customers who are «not yours» any more? More than this, WHY didn't you inform me that I am not your customer any more? The fact that you «informed» your partners about customer base division means that YOU decide, which customers would stay with you and who will be with Poltek. If YOU make such decisions, it means that YOU are Poltek, stop lying to me. You have all the money, including mine. And now you want to throw off your responsibility to some other unexisting company, while this is YOU YOURSELF. Liars! QUOTE Someone named “Erlan”, from Kazakhstan supposedly deposited just over $50,000 on his trading account.Then, during the night a fake position was opened by our former partners. It was 150 lots, which is of course impossible to do with 1:200 leverage and the amount of margin available to the account. Let me draw your attention to this: supposedly deposited. Does it mean that ALL the money that people deposit to your company are deposited supposedly? So you can steal them any time? And then just pretend nobody transferred you real money? This is scam. I am ready to provide my E-Gold purse access to any respected member of this community to see the history of the account. I will provide the access and you will create a screenshot from the E-Gold account history and post it here. So that everyone can see – I HAVE deposited 50000 USD, not supposedly, but really, and FXOpen Scam Company has stolen them. This is a fact. I hope you will not tell that your mythic «partners» persuaded E-Gold company to create a fake history? QUOTE Then, during the night a fake position was opened by our former partners. It was 150 lots, which is of course impossible to do with 1:200 leverage and the amount of margin available to the account. We tried to investigate this situation, but immediately, all Manager's accesses were closed off for several minutes. Then, when the server appeared to work normally again, this magical position of "Erlan" was closed manually during the downtime, which was impossible to do for the person without Administrator's access. So, the question is, how was this trade closed, and who closed it when access to the server was closed even to FXOpen Managers? That answer is blindingly obvious. "Erlan" is a client of Poltek, company which the co-owners (our ex-partners) are also co-owners of several other brokerage projects. Does this mean that anyone can easily access your server and execute any order there? Wow! A nice opportunity for traders, I guess. Well, we have the account history (and you have it as well, by the way), and it was not Holy Ghost who opened the order. And, (please don't consider it a hint), if the order went against the trend – you would not mind against gaining USD 50000, right? Anyway, this order was accepted by you. Why didn't you delete it? Why didn't you consider it as «disputable»? Why you did not react to this order in any way? You started to say something is wrong with this order (there can't be leverage over 1:200 and other lies) only AFTER 3 WEEKS. After that there were other orders on my account. And NO reaction, or leverage changes from your side. Then I started a public campaign against you. And only after that you posted this insane version that some «ex-partners» are trying to attack you. In fact I do not care, if I am a customer of Belveder, Poltek, FXOpen, or whatever other names you have. You MUST return my money. I had trades on YOUR server, I deposited money to YOUR account and YOU have stolen them. You have DELETED the account with 140000 USD on it. I have received a number of emails and phone calls from people who support me and I must thank them all for their participation. On the 9th of October, FXOpen has published a mendacious letter with «comments». Below is the response. QUOTE Everything began with useless spam(including Penis Enlargement and dating sites) which has been sent to our clients again and again (we apologise to our Clients who have received these spam emails. It is unfortunate that some people whom had Manager's status abused the email system for this kind of immoral business). Then, our server began to receive daily hacking attempts to try and crash it and to steal confidential information. This criminal activity is still happening. Now, the situation has arisen, where an anti-FXOpen website has been created...what can we say? - "Much more professional this time our dear ex-friends!". All the scam companies BEFORE they disappear with all customers' money usually complain about mythic spam and hacker attacks. It has always been this way and FXOpen is one more case. QUOTE Poltek Business ltd, was a coalition of FXopen Management and other "Partners". Since the beginning of this coalition there was nothing done from the side of "Partners" to develop our business, and all improvement and upgrades were rejected by them. All this was designed to slow the development and business vision of FXOpen. Recently, FXopen management held an emergency meeting, and decided to separate from our "Partners" as the effectiveness of the business was decreasing. Our partners were informed about this and due to a contractual obligation, some clients from former Soviet countries and Russia, had to remain with Poltek Business ltd, and all other clients were retained by FXOpen. As you can understand, this made our ex-partners unhappy (and we can understand them of course) so they began “Operation Client Erlan". Actually, these inner relations between you and your partners and whoever else are none of my business. I do not care, what happened between Belveder, Poltek, FXOpen or anyone else. You have stolen my money and I want them back. You «have informed» your partners about customer base division. Can you post a whole list of customers who are «not yours» any more? More than this, WHY didn't you inform me that I am not your customer any more? The fact that you «informed» your partners about customer base division means that YOU decide, which customers would stay with you and who will be with Poltek. If YOU make such decisions, it means that YOU are Poltek, stop lying to me. You have all the money, including mine. And now you want to throw off your responsibility to some other unexisting company, while this is YOU YOURSELF. Liars! QUOTE Someone named “Erlan”, from Kazakhstan supposedly deposited just over $50,000 on his trading account.Then, during the night a fake position was opened by our former partners. It was 150 lots, which is of course impossible to do with 1:200 leverage and the amount of margin available to the account. Let me draw your attention to this: supposedly deposited. Does it mean that ALL the money that people deposit to your company are deposited supposedly? So you can steal them any time? And then just pretend nobody transferred you real money? This is scam. I am ready to provide my E-Gold purse access to any respected member of this community to see the history of the account. I will provide the access and you will create a screenshot from the E-Gold account history and post it here. So that everyone can see – I HAVE deposited 50000 USD, not supposedly, but really, and FXOpen Scam Company has stolen them. This is a fact. I hope you will not tell that your mythic «partners» persuaded E-Gold company to create a fake history? QUOTE Then, during the night a fake position was opened by our former partners. It was 150 lots, which is of course impossible to do with 1:200 leverage and the amount of margin available to the account. We tried to investigate this situation, but immediately, all Manager's accesses were closed off for several minutes. Then, when the server appeared to work normally again, this magical position of "Erlan" was closed manually during the downtime, which was impossible to do for the person without Administrator's access. So, the question is, how was this trade closed, and who closed it when access to the server was closed even to FXOpen Managers? That answer is blindingly obvious. "Erlan" is a client of Poltek, company which the co-owners (our ex-partners) are also co-owners of several other brokerage projects. Does this mean that anyone can easily access your server and execute any order there? Wow! A nice opportunity for traders, I guess. Well, we have the account history (and you have it as well, by the way), and it was not Holy Ghost who opened the order. And, (please don't consider it a hint), if the order went against the trend – you would not mind against gaining USD 50000, right? Anyway, this order was accepted by you. Why didn't you delete it? Why didn't you consider it as «disputable»? Why you did not react to this order in any way? You started to say something is wrong with this order (there can't be leverage over 1:200 and other lies) only AFTER 3 WEEKS. After that there were other orders on my account. And NO reaction, or leverage changes from your side. Then I started a public campaign against you. And only after that you posted this insane version that some «ex-partners» are trying to attack you. In fact I do not care, if I am a customer of Belveder, Poltek, FXOpen, or whatever other names you have. You MUST return my money. I had trades on YOUR server, I deposited money to YOUR account and YOU have stolen them. You have DELETED the account with 140000 USD on it. QUOTE Our IT department can make a website like this every day. Please check: www.fxjoke.com It is an idiotic, but in fact, a very true and sad joke. Because you show Borat Sagdiev (a character of a «Borat» movie) praising your scam company. This way you show you consider ALL your customers as idiots (check the movie), and you show how you easily steal their money. Besides you show fake, Photoshop edited screenshots. Good work, guys!QUOTE The client "Erlan" is registered as citizen of Kazakhstan really under the name Erlan but he even don't know that an account was opened under his name it's first. Are you nuts? What is this supposed to mean? Who are you talking to then? Make another 10 sites like fxjoke.com. QUOTE And second after we change the operational company to Belvedere Inc. and that client contacted us about his account(which belongs to Poltek Business Ltd.) we advised him to email to provide us his real phone number. But he emailed us the following: Hello I have contacted your support once again and they asked for my phone number. Since I am a nephew of a city mayor and I am almost sure my phone line is tapped, I want to keep this information private. Therefore, please use our U.S. phone number for communication. The support team told me you will call today. Please do, I am waiting for your call. The issue is very urgent. Very interesting why the client trying to hide his normal land line phone number from the company which under his opinion has his money? You contradict yourself. Why would you ask for my phone number if I am not your customer? You have confirmed I am your customer, you knew about my order, and I was talking to YOU. The records are available at http://fxopen.info. Talking to you via a regular line would be TOO expensive (I don't even know where you are located). But I have a REAL phone number, and here it is: +1 (601) 255-4504 ANYONE can call me and talk. Let's check your numbers, posted on your website. I can say that NONE of them ever answered except the egyptian number: +1 (352) 397-2678 - USA +44 0113 815 0258 - United Kingdom +33 870 440 213 - France +41 (44) 586 58 67 - Switzerland +852 8199 0778 - Hong Kong S.A.R., China Now let the respected community call on any or all of these phone numbers and see they are a fake and you are a scam company. QUOTE Someone named "Erlan" called our Egyptian representatives and claiming that he is from Pakistan! ...strange... Well, if your manager is as unqualified as not to see the difference between Pakistan and Kazakhstan – what can be discussed with him (her?)? QUOTE Egyptian support do not have access to any financial records or trading operations of the client as part of our security and confidentiality policy. They are tasked to deal only with basic support issues. First of all, be honest and say that you have no other support except Egyptian. The fact that your support has no information about accounts means once again you are scammers and the real situation is in the hands of 1-2 persons. And they are are insane according to what they write in their «letters». QUOTE There is a standing order, that when a client calls regarding any withdrawal problem, to forward this to the main office and always assure the client that problem will be solved as soon as possible (this is normal customer support etiquette). The query is then forwarded to the main office. Where is this mythic «main office» located? What is its phone number? Why is there NO CONTACT INFORMATION of this «main office» published? Does your support know their address/phone? Does it exist at all? Where should a person with a several thousand USD deposit call, to talk not to an unqualified support with poor english, but to a person who is in charge for financial questions? I see that at present: Customer Support has no information about accounts The main office has no contact information A full list of scam company features. QUOTE The client "Erlan" was always changing his IP addresses and location, and as you see from the whois on "his" website, uses anonymous details to register the website. I am Erlan Saduakasov and I do not change my location. Now take a look at whois records of FXOpen/FXEgypt and (WOW!) poltekbusiness.com http://whois.domaintools.com/fxopen.com http://whois.domaintools.com/poltekbusiness.com Screenshots for FXOpen WHOIS records: http://fxopen.info/images/fxopen_whois1.gif http://fxopen.info/images/fxopen_whois2.gif Screenshots for Poltek WHOIS records: http://fxopen.info/images/poltek_whois1.gif http://fxopen.info/images/poltek_whois2.gif Find 10 differences. So when you refer to Poltek as former partners and other company – you are lying to your customers and the whole web community. The domains are registered to the same (fake, I guess) persons and same emails and contact details. You are thieves, who steal customers money and then throw responsibility to your own fake companies. QUOTE When the pieces of the puzzle are put together, you can see that "Erlan" is actually a group of people or a company working together which want to profane the GOOD NAME OF THE COMPANY FXOpen You have no «good name». Your company «FXOpen» is 2 weeks old. And I guess you will go on changing names and stealing customers' money. After a month a new «FX_something_else» will appear, and more people will be robbed by these scammers, I suppose. QUOTE PS. We have managed to find the real Erlan Saduakasov and will ask him to report to his local police as his identity appears to have been stolen. This is a lie. You are afraid to contact me. My name is Erlan Saduakasov, and CAN YOU TELL YOUR NAMES? You have anonymous domains, fake phones and addresses, who are you? Can you tell that in public? I suppose you want to finish off with me in the best traditions of Russian Mafia, especially when we talk about USD 140000, a huge sum. In the end I suggest to have the third party involved in this argument as an arbitrator. I suggest it to be a respected by everyone authority who is competent is the question more than I and FXOpen scam company. I suggest to refer to MetaQuotes Company, the developer of Metatrader to check the logs and transactions and see who is right. I officially announce that I am ready to provide all logs from my computer (even the computer itself, if required) to MetaQuotes Company. As well as E-Gold account. Can FXOpen scammers provide their (and their fake partners) server logs and E-Gold history? I guess, you know the answer in advance. In case you want to save your «good name», please return my money. In this case I will take away my accusations and post positive feedback on you.
"Erlan", you still haven't explained how you managed to open 150 lots at 1:200 leverage. The system is set up to automatically switch your leverage once it goes over a certain point. I got an auto generated mail that I had been switched to 1:200 when my account went over $20k. You should have got one too.
There is no way in hell you could have opened that 150 lot position. QUOTE(jafar00 @ Oct 10 2007, 11:20 PM) [snapback]4426243[/snapback] "Erlan", you still haven't explained how you managed to open 150 lots at 1:200 leverage. The system is set up to automatically switch your leverage once it goes over a certain point. I got an auto generated mail that I had been switched to 1:200 when my account went over $20k. You should have got one too. There is no way in hell you could have opened that 150 lot position. I think that is fxopen server problem...Lucky he trade with profit but as Erlan said , how about his trade went lost ? Will fxopen minus his balance ? Or cancel the trade and return his balance ? Personally , to be fair , Fxopen should return the total fund that deposited from Erlan without any profit or loss....Server down or server got hacked was Fxopen security problem not the fault from Erlan... Let say if you have bet $100k in betfair and lucky win $200k , finally betfair said your bet is not valid( this is okay) and you are not allowed to withdraw back your $100K ( this one is big problem )...  ?? Can you accept it ?
QUOTE(rossman @ Oct 10 2007, 06:06 PM) [snapback]4426285[/snapback] I think that is fxopen server problem...Lucky he trade with profit but as Erlan said , how about his trade went lost ? Will fxopen minus his balance ? Or cancel the trade and return his balance ? Personally , to be fair , Fxopen should return the total fund that deposited from Erlan without any profit or loss....Server down or server got hacked was Fxopen security problem not the fault from Erlan... Let say if you have bet $100k in betfair and lucky win $200k , finally betfair said your bet is not valid( this is okay) and you are not allowed to withdraw back your $100K ( this one is big problem )... ?? Can you accept it ?If Erlan did in fact exist there may be a point here, but he is a fictitious person. FXOpen never steal people's deposits.
I think I better avoid FXOpen for the moment till all things are resolved. There are 2 sides of the story and 3rd party do not know which is true.
If they have a local address / phone in Egypt, I can investigate the case personally to know what is wrong.
QUOTE Phone conversations with FxOpen After that I started calling the support team. The support team was available once in 10 calls and on the egyptian number only. The phone numbers * +1 (352) 397-2678 - USA * +44 0113 815 0258 - United Kingdom * +33 870 440 213 - France * +41 (44) 586 58 67 - Switzerland * +852 8199 0778 - Hong Kong S.A.R., China are a fake. No one ever responds to them. The UK number just doesn't exist. The support team first told me they left some message for me in the trader's cabinet. This is a lie, since they can't leave ANY message in the trader's cabinet. This is the record of this call. 03.10.07, 12:31 GMT. Listen to the record Of course there were no messages for me in the trader's cabinet. The support asked me to write an email to finance@fxopen.com. Should I say that the email was not responded. This is the record of this call (the support team asks me to contact finance@fxopen.com). 03.10.07, 12:51 GMT. Listen to the record Finally ater 2 days of endless phone calls, we had the following conversation with the support team. As you can hear from the record the suuport team member doesn't have a clue, and refuses to provide any help. And hungs up. This is the record of this cal 04.10.07, 15:43 GMT. Listen to the record After that the MOBILE phone was turned off. Here is the proof that the support team of a respected broker uses a cheap mobile phone. Listen to the record The final conversation took place on 04.10.07 and FXOpen.com representative promised us our money in 24 hours. This is the record. Record IN 24 HOURS THERE WERE STILL NO MONEY ON OUR ACCOUNT, AND FXOpen.com has not yet returned them. THEY HAVE STOLEN 137000 USD IN TOTAL. LIKE I SAID I HAVE ALL THE PROOF! In fact NOBODY ever answers to ANY phone published at their contact us page, except the phone in Egypt. These phone numbers are fake. The Egyptian phone number (+20 100033993) is a MOBILE PHONE. NOBODY EVER answers in Skype. This is fake as well. anyone have contact these numbers before? erlan didn't say he open 150 lots....its fxopen said it....
I really never liked they
QUOTE(jafar00 @ Oct 10 2007, 05:20 PM) [snapback]4426243[/snapback] The system is set up to automatically switch your leverage once it goes over a certain point. I got an auto generated mail that I had been switched to 1:200 when my account went over $20k. You should have got one too. Liar! It is not set up automatically. It is made manually, by FXOPen Scam Company Manager or whoever else.There is no way in hell you could have opened that 150 lot position. When my account reached over 100000k - yes, I goit this email, that my leverage is set to 1:100. BUT ONLY THIS EMAIL!!! NO ONE EVER changed my leverage to 1:200. And now thieves and their ass-lickers say "you could not open the position"... Read the statement, check the screenshots on my site, thieves. QUOTE(jafar00 @ Oct 10 2007, 09:25 PM) [snapback]4426595[/snapback] If Erlan did in fact exist there may be a point here, but he is a fictitious person. FXOpen never steal people's deposits. Wow! And do you have a REAL name? And not a fake phone number? If you can talk to FXOpen SCam Company Manager who ignores me - maybe you will publish your name and phone so we can talk? Or are you afraid like your parent company management? QUOTE(GoldGuy @ Oct 11 2007, 03:10 AM) [snapback]4426926[/snapback] If they have a local address / phone in Egypt, I can investigate the case personally to know what is wrong. Probably the only real phone is published on their website: +20 100033993.
(+20 country code) 010 0033993 It's a cellular.
I doubt any mobile numbers in Egypt (here) start with two zeros, this one is fake as well. This is not promising at all. I am going to do my best with any local firm to investigate FXEgypt further. Contact information should be accurate at least.
If not wrong the free $25 bonus is onhy given when you have post 100 msg in the forum.
QUOTE(jas @ Oct 12 2007, 06:00 PM) [snapback]4429434[/snapback] If not wrong the free $25 bonus is onhy given when you have post 100 msg in the forum. Actually, it's an instant opening bonus as well. You get $25 instantly on a standard account and $1 instantly for a micro account.
Just make a report to police or else who can incharge this case...i think is the best way to settle it..
After creating the acct, I saw the $25 bonus. What is the next step.
QUOTE(jas @ Oct 13 2007, 06:14 AM) [snapback]4430092[/snapback] After creating the acct, I saw the $25 bonus. What is the next step. I think it is not withdrawable, only profits made out of it. But unsure
Whois check on FXOpen.com
US Whois Information.. FXegypt.com also has US whois.. I do not know, it's a bit confusing matter.. :S
how do i trade using the bonus $25.
QUOTE(jas @ Oct 13 2007, 11:17 AM) [snapback]4430353[/snapback] how do i trade using the bonus $25. Well, you really should add some more to be safe, but if you want to risk it, make sure your leverage is set to 1:500. You will be limited in what you can trade with that much. aud/usd, nzd/usd, usd/jpy, usd/chf mainly. You need to get to about $30 for eur/usd and over $40 for gbp/usd trades. How to trade it? Very bleeding carefully 
When I login, where is the option where i can start trading using the bonus $25.
I think you have only yourself to blame.
Are you a newbie or what ? WHY on earth would a person invest such a BIG amount on internet HYIPS ? Any HYIPS or internet business comes with a RISK because they can be here today and GONE tomorrow. Even investing $5000, I will think HARD and analyse them very carefully. I really could not believe a person could invest that much without any solid proof, documentation or lawyer's aid. Unless you are very greedy and filthy rich. Take it as a good and a hard lesson................   QUOTE(jas @ Oct 14 2007, 05:45 AM) [snapback]4431369[/snapback] When I login, where is the option where i can start trading using the bonus $25. When you log in with Metatrader 4 (You did install it right?) you should find the $25 there ready and waiting
QUOTE(opera @ Oct 15 2007, 06:44 AM) [snapback]4432244[/snapback] I think you have only yourself to blame. Are you a newbie or what ? WHY on earth would a person invest such a BIG amount on internet HYIPS ? Any HYIPS or internet business comes with a RISK because they can be here today and GONE tomorrow. Even investing $5000, I will think HARD and analyse them very carefully. I really could not believe a person could invest that much without any solid proof, documentation or lawyer's aid. Unless you are very greedy and filthy rich. Take it as a good and a hard lesson................ This is FX, not HYIP...
Ok will try to login and check. How long will the free $25 bonus expire if did not use it.
QUOTE(jas @ Oct 15 2007, 03:02 AM) [snapback]4432430[/snapback] Ok will try to login and check. How long will the free $25 bonus expire if did not use it. It doesn't expire. enjoy
I see more and more people using FX Open, great news
there are still many people using FXOpen, and this is the only complain so far rite?
QUOTE(hyippo @ Oct 15 2007, 10:05 AM) [snapback]4432801[/snapback] there are still many people using FXOpen, and this is the only complain so far rite? No, not the only, there are several such cases. But the FXOpen Scam Company do their best to prevent this information from people.
I have download the software but there is no $25 anywhere to be seen. Please advise.
maybe u need to fund some $ before you can get the bonus?
QUOTE(Erlan @ Oct 15 2007, 10:28 AM) [snapback]4432832[/snapback] No, not the only, there are several such cases. But the FXOpen Scam Company do their best to prevent this information from people. Why don't you take it to the Police then if it's real. FXOpen has thousands of happy clients and your case just doesn't add up. QUOTE(jas @ Oct 15 2007, 01:46 PM) [snapback]4433028[/snapback] I have download the software but there is no $25 anywhere to be seen. Please advise. You need to open a real account to get the bonus. Just downloading the software allows you to open a free demo only.
The free $100 is paid after trading 10 lots in volume on the account.
QUOTE(jafar00 @ Oct 15 2007, 07:31 PM) [snapback]4433485[/snapback] Why don't you take it to the Police then if it's real. FXOpen has thousands of happy clients and your case just doesn't add up. Can you give me a number of their local police department? Or maybe your local one, since you are an IB? ("Thousands of happy clients" which are going to be robbed one day by FxOpen Scam Company. Who cares anyway? They have STOLEN my money, do you understand?) So what about the phone?
hmm... if they are scammers, why are they still able to operate?
QUOTE(hyippo @ Oct 16 2007, 10:44 AM) [snapback]4434487[/snapback] hmm... if they are scammers, why are they still able to operate? I hope they will soon be imprisoned.
Anyone know where do they operate, offshore or in the own country. Also understand they are not under NFA certified.
it's quite popular, so unlikely it'll scam, just doesn't make business sense to me
I have already open an acct with them and was given a free bonus of $25 for trading. After the 1st login, i could not login for the 2nd time. Email them regarding this and yet to receive a single reply.
do keep us updated... hope they honour their words...
Still no news of my status. If they do not honour what they said then just give me a reply informing me that they have removed the free $25 rather than me waiting for their reply. In order to proof that they are scammers, they shld clarify all these openly rather than keep quiet. If no reply from them after a few more days, I would rather open another acct from other forex companies.
QUOTE(jas @ Oct 19 2007, 07:56 AM) [snapback]4439027[/snapback] Still no news of my status. If they do not honour what they said then just give me a reply informing me that they have removed the free $25 rather than me waiting for their reply. In order to proof that they are scammers, they shld clarify all these openly rather than keep quiet. If no reply from them after a few more days, I would rather open another acct from other forex companies. Jas, did you break the rules of the promotional accounts? Please see http://www.fxegypt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7402 QUOTE 1) You may withdraw the profit from trading the $25 only after making 17 trades of + or - 4 pips each, unless you also make an additional, initial deposit(min $25) on the account in which case you may withdraw anything above $25 anytime.
2) The $25 bonus money is not withdrawable 3) You may not open more than one bonus account unless you have made an initial deposit to the first account. One account per IP address without initial deposit One account per person without initial deposit One account per PC without initial deposit Please follow the promotion rules or you may find your additional account closed without warning. |
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