So the 12 daily pro craze is over, and now people are realizing that they aren't going to make a living sitting at their computer watch ads.

Where do you turn to now?

I think that network marketing is the way to go. It's similar in some aspects, but then quite different in others. People need to get out of the mindset that they can make money doing absolutely nothing from the start.

Now, you can make money doing nothing... but you have to put your part in at the beginning. Say, you start in a network marketing company. You get a couple recruits and and do the minimum number of sales, and then you sit back and watch your downline do the work for ya. Make sense?

Money isn't going to fall into your lap unless you do something about it. So, if you want my honest opinion, there is only one place to turn after you figure out that autosurfs and hyip's aren't going to make you rich. Network marketing.

network marketing is a huge failure online. getting money for seeing ads is the best way to make money if run by a pro.
there is working concept called Pay To Click or PTC.
Take a side:
Are you planning to make traffic to your site ?
Are you planning to forward people to your "referral link" on sites ?
Pay To Click is working because people want to get paid without trhe gard work of building a network.

PTC works as long as you can generate traffic to your site.

What i'm talking about is a genuine network marketing company. Not some online thing that is going to last 10 days and then run with everyone's money.

I'm writing a blog about how to make money online (right now its off-line [changing servers]), it has nothing to do with martices/refferal/hyips/autosurfs or anything. And you don't have to pay a dime.

Another thing, you won't start earning hundreds from the first day but if you work on it you might get a good long term source of income.

Danny...

MLM is nothing new and it always worked in such style: few people to make real money, more people make some money, many people barely get own money back, most people got nothing or almost nothing.

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dannyboy-online,

looking foward to the read once you get it up.

Don't worry Yasmine.

after some months playing with HYIP, i realize it was all a scam...

It took you months to work it out?

then why are u still promoting 4000% ROI program in ur siggy ??

hyip will come back on christmas, when everyone wants to get some extra money, and there are lots of newcomers, I mean, people to be scammed again and again, untill they leave and are replaced again, feeding scammers forever.

You are probably right about the Christmas thing, unfortunately.

They were fun at one time, Wow MMG has changed, It's been almost a year.

Well, scammers or not...there have been those who made their money and the others who lost it all. Anything that comes easy...goes easy. Stock markets are not very different either but it is legal. Las Vegas thrives on people who come from all over to try their luck. We all get tempted. HYIPs are not very different.

The interest of most people seems to shift towards the many Business/Social Community sites that are popping up all over the place.

It all started with places we all know like Facebook, Myspace, Youtube, ...
However, now most of the newcomers are sharing (part of) their revenue with their members.

I have tried several of them already (some of them are actually totally free to join!) but the results are way below expectations most of the time ... exept in one of them that already has 25,000+ paying members in 45 days and where I made my initial money back times 4 in their very first payrun.

I'm sure many clones of that program will pop up within the next couple of months!

regards,
Patrick.

Its sad because when you get used to a certain online community like MMG, you just cant seem to leave everyone. The familiarity seeps away and you meet so many new people. You never know what lurks behind all those usernames and dark corners of each web page.

Surprisingly enough, I have found many people who have been terrific. A couple of the bad type, but only a very small percentage.

As with the name of this thread "Autosurfs and Hyip's Dieing Out? I don't believe so. What we are now seeing is a new type of admin. Energetic, always looking forward and keeping in contact with the members. Taking on board what they are saying and then deciding what is best for the program. Currently I am in a HYIP and a ProfitShare, and one surf. But they are all unique in there own way, but have two big factors.. Admins that pay and talk to members. I don't just mean pay for awhile. I mean months and months.

So for my 2 cents, I really don't think they are dying out, just evolving. But beware there are still those straight out scam sites.. but they are easy to pick these days.. well I am very cautious where I put my hard earned dollars.

All the best for 2008, it is looking to be a great year..

Dorky