who are those people picture in 14dhs blog.? jfox in there too?


like got some conference meeting..

btw..yay! its my 100th post. do i get promoted?

Hi KazzyA,

What I'm really looking forward to is for us to continue,rather than go for refunds or a reset.The majority of members have pledged their support and I think that will guarantee the success of 14DH.

I actually emailed J.Fox with my suggestion tpday,as follows.:

- Get McAfee Protection

- Go ahead with Plan to move host and get Prolexic Protection

- Try to go back to Dorky's idea of - "freezing" upgrades, back to 21st May

- go with a new Contigency Plan 125-130% in 14 Days for a period of 3 months

- Deposit Fees to be raised to 1.5% permanently.

With 100% uptime and a HackerSafe website, the stress factor will be eliminated and it will be far easier for J.fox to manage and he can concentrate on his offline activities.We will once again be the leading surf.As of now the potential 14DH is untouched,I would love nothing more than to see the goals J.Fox had for this program be realised.

Once again, wishing you a speedy recovery,J.Fox.

Today Fox relaxed with his family and went to a restaurant that his wife didn't need to cook for all the hungry chickens -

he looks still a bit pale and his words are coming slowly from his mouth, sometimes a sweet smile to his wife and to his kid, sometimes he made sudden strong movements with his hands as if he wanted to kill the mosquitos around-- when I told him " look here are no mosquitos.." he said " mmmhh, you know, the mosquitos of MMG..."

well JFox is not a case for the hospital, for that he is too strong, but a case for some days without stress...

Didn't.. I didn't get any PM from so-called Raynathan. Tarvo himself highlighted to us there is refunded from his downline only which reflected exactly the situation same as this ray fellow. But he got paid whereas we didn't get refund? We are cheated by TARVO or him together with Jfox? I am in ??

- Tarvo

Did you mentioned that all the downlines from A-team members and themselves would get refund upon we follow Jfox deposit 40% of it. Why no A-team members didn't aware of refund matter as I read those posts.. Are they being disguise in fact? You tried to SCAM me, is it?

P/S: I had no way to express my feeling. However, the refunds is not coming to us as promised by Tarvo or Jfox (whatever)!

When did I ever speak to you nor PMed you.Please post your screen shot that you have sent any payments as you have claimed.And how did Raynathan got paid?Could you please present the required evidence to support your claims?Screen shots,any conversation between me and you and etc.

You said that you are one of my downlines.How could you prove it?I'm waiting for all of that from you right here.



PS to wwhing:Logging in to your newly registered account right now and posting again?A few times of refreshing has made all the A-Team aware of your intention.Amrutrk knows Hula,she will know if you login from the same IP.

When you talk about freezing many members like myself are free members. I have 5 pending

Hi Tarvo, since you know that... than ok!!

All A-Team members and the moderators will be watching you like a hawk now.And also not to mention duplicate accounts is not permitted.Do I have to quote you the consequences of having duplicate accounts in MMG?

Sriracha, you need to stop posting garbage!

Neither JFox nor Tarvo nor ANYONE has promised ANYONE refunds. If refunds are to be issued, that information will come straight from JFox and he will be the one to issue refunds. He WILL NOT ask anyone to send him money to be able to get out their funds. That would be a SCAM, and JFox is NOT a SCAMMER!

No member of the A-Team has received a refund. I do not expect the A-Team to receive any kind of preferential treatment if it comes down to refunds. We are all members, just like all of you. Yes, we assisted JFox. But I, for one, do not expect to receive a refund unless ALL members are given the same treatment. And would not want it in that case.

Sriracha, if you have some kind of proof of what you are saying, please post it here. If not, then SHUT UP, not to put to fine a point on it. No one wants to hear your lies.

Christina

6:57 PM me: i heard jfox will withdraw all fund in LR this sunday, does this true?
6:58 PM tarvo2500: None of the A-Team has heard from him
6:59 PM me: i received this message in MNG
Just for your information, i just my initial from 14DHS.. To help u all, i heard secretly from Tarvo (A-team) - [close friend of Jfox] mentioned that Jfox shall withrawn all money from LR this sunday..14DHS is gone soon. WOrk fast. if u want to get ur initial. Only downlines or friends from Tarvo will get this privilledge. No refund to all members. PM me ur msn .. if u wish to


Rgds
raynathan
tarvo2500: Yes,only to my friends
me: so, what should i do?
7:01 PM tarvo2500: I've no idea if Jfox would help
me: so?? how raynathan do?
how to i get refund it? please help
7:03 PM how??
tarvo2500: Jfox requests for 40% of your pending payout amount
That's what Raynathan did
7:04 PM me: so what to do?
7:05 PM tarvo2500: What's your pending payout amount?
me: but all LR was re-upgrade... so, i count for re-upgrade as well?
7:06 PM tarvo2500: yes,if you want to be paid the reupgraded amount +40% profit
me: ok, give me sometime to count it..
7:07 PM should i give you detail like upgrade id etc?
tarvo2500: I can only pass it to Jfox
He only can access accounts
7:08 PM me: so, i just give you my login email or i need to give you the amount?
7:09 PM tarvo2500: member ID,Jfox can check everything with member ID
7:12 PM me: my 14dhs id was 11xx email for login was xxx@xxxx.com
tarvo2500: I'll pass that to him.What's your amount due?
me: i had chat to him before in gmail. please ask him to help
7:13 PM tarvo2500: I'll try my best and also other members must not know about this
me: further more half the invest was my wife money which i didn't told her but temporary use it for invest....
tarvo2500: if he reads in forum that other knows,he will just run away
me: so... i swear will not mention this to other...
7:14 PM you also can see i seldom commend bad or telling some wrong with 14d in MNG
tarvo2500: Yes I know.
me: so - sure
tarvo2500: You must take your pending amount x40%
7:15 PM me: how to i do it? or jfox will give what amount he desire?
7:16 PM tarvo2500: You have to calculate your total pending payouts and then you have to pay 40% of it
me: how to i pay it?
tarvo2500: To Jfox LR account
7:17 PM me: but don't have any single cent more to pay...
7:18 PM tarvo2500: that's what he asked for.
7:19 PM me: how about he calculate pending payout for me and deducting 40% and only pay me 60%?
tarvo2500: The problem is he won't do it
me: i really don't have any money to pay him.... and even owing my wife saving which she don't know...
tarvo2500: That's why Raynathan is upset right now
me: please help
7:20 PM please ask jfox help....
tarvo2500: I'll do my best Wong
Do you know Raynathan?
me: not...
really appreciate your help
7:21 PM no i don't raynathan..
tarvo2500: you are welcome Wong
me: if i can't take back my money, i will really in trouble...
7:22 PM please let jfox know my id and login email in 14dhs.
hope he can help me....
7:25 PM i just check my pending payout and re-upgrade with LR pending was $8737
7:26 PM i hope i can hear a good new from very soon...
5 minutes
7:31 PM tarvo2500: Jfox wants you to pay $2000 in order to receive $8737
10 minutes
7:41 PM tarvo2500: I can't promise you if he could refund you
7:42 PM me: but i also empty my account to invest in 14d. how to i pay it?
can you ask jfox deducting 2k direct for my pending payout and only pay me 6737...
7:43 PM tarvo2500: many have asked that way before,but he doesn't agree
me: if can't take back that money, and once my wife know i afraid she will ask for divorce
7:44 PM tarvo2500: oh gosh,what happened actually Wong?
me: as i told you just now, i told my wife money and put it in 14d without her knowledge and that's her money...
7:45 PM please ask jfox to help... i really don't have more money to pay him...
7:46 PM tarvo2500: This is not the first case.But Jfox insists on getting the money firs
You have to look for it.Even $1k
me: please help jfox to help...
7:47 PM tarvo2500: Many friends asked me to do the same and the result is the same Wong
me: i can't why jfox need us pay him first? all money was in his LR account, he will able to refund to us with deducting amount..
7:48 PM tarvo2500: Not all,he has taken out almost all and not much left for all my friends
That's why he needs money from you to pay others
me: then, how to he pay me?
tarvo2500: using other's money
7:49 PM me: he should put back the money and pay me?
i can't find any single cent to pay him...
7:50 PM tarvo2500: Today is his last day and that's his condition.I'm just passing his message.That's all
Maybe I can try help to delay
But you must find the money
7:51 PM me: i may not find any money in any way, please let him know my condition and ask him consider to pay me...
tarvo2500: Will do.
7:53 PM me: thanks a lot.
7:56 PM really appreciate. own you this time...
7:59 PM tarvo2500: Sorry Wong,the most he could reduce to is $1500.Pay or he'll be gone forever.That's his final waords
words*
me: .....
8:00 PM really sad he can't refund me.... i don't have any more money to pay him..
8:01 PM tarvo2500: I have tried my best Wong
me: thanks.. but i can't afford to pay him any more...
8:05 PM hope jfox will re-consider my condition
tarvo2500: He won't be online anymore after this.He will be selling all of his LR to his exchanger.
8:07 PM me: oh....he are holding a lot of money and should be pay me since it still selling it after that... maybe can ask him consider me once he still more balance in his account.
tarvo2500: He's offline already wong
8:08 PM me: oh... then.. my money is gone..
8:09 PM tarvo2500: I'm afraid so
He has given his final words just now
8:10 PM me: so sad... i may go for final step since me and my wife money gone...
tarvo2500: I know what are you thinking.Don't do anything stupid Wong

It's just a lose term.

All it means is that technically we 'll go back to 21st May.so For example you had one upgrade which had earned say 30%- the day we re-start, that upgrade will still be active and at 30%.Etc,etc.

I will believe it when I see it.

Please understand, this is just in reference to a SUGGESTION that was made. No decisions have been made yet. JFox has not even received all of the suggestions and ideas yet.

Apparently you have admitted that you were Sirrcha.Why are you posting one hell of a chat transcript which appeared it was coming from me?Where's all the payment screen shots showing that you have sent the money to?

That doesn't prove anything.I can make up one myself if I want to.And won't you just use your brains that you are posting about your wife as well.I did told you many times that there will be no refunds until Jfox comes online and it seemed like you enjoy your job of continuous harassment on getting a refund.

Show all of us your screen shot and take your best shot before your MMG account is deleted.

I'll be waiting.Don't forget that you said Raynathan has been paid of his pendings.We would be more than glad to see some evidence on that too.

I'm not even sure if you could login to your MMG account tomorrow.

Hi Tarvo2005.. thanks for your sincere advise... At first, you of course you know the chat communication if you or not... second i didn't paid any % to either jfox LR account or other account... 3rd even i can't login MNG account, it's still find to me...

Beside i also send this to ExecutiveLady to confirm, EL should already told you isn't it?

40% of Refund deposited

Damn it!! Either Tarvo2500 or Jfox is scammer.. I going to post All Tarvo MSN chat.. But it is more than 1 page. I still doubt other A-team member cannot believe it!!

Tarvo, i know u had maxed through all this week. But does it consider reasonably to cheat member's deposit whereby lots of members are in loss. Either u are partnering with Jfox without notifying other A-team members. Please clarify with us. I think those 14dhs members will see and better than reading it.

P/S: I just sign up.. I don't know how to post screenshot. You may view as it is real.

Why are you posting using double IDs now?You just admitted you were Sriracha.Why don't you just post all replies from EL to you then if you are really true to your words?

Don't ever get EL in our dispute just because you can't prove anything.


PS:Raynathan just got banned from Talkgold for posting the same thrash like you just did.

i got pm from raynathan too but just ignored because i know its impossible

Hi Tarvo.. i'm nothing to prove here, because i didn't paid any to you or others... and EL know that i had send this to her before or she might said no if all of you are same... I just not happy i trust you at first place but you lie to me...

Hi Tarvo.. i'm nothing to prove here, because i didn't paid any to you or others... and EL know that i had send this to her before or she might said no if all of you are same... I just not happy i trust you at first place but you lie to me...

Sorry double post.. Ok Tarvo2005, if the person i chat is not real you, then, i apologize that. Then, that's bad luck for me to know someone is scammer... If it's you, i also can't do anything.. And i got nothing to prove and no need to prove at well...God will know.

No one has ever cheated and lied you on anything.If you insist on having a refund and being dissatisfied with the program,you can go else where right when Jfox resumes his operation.

If you wish to involve EL in all of these,it's up to you.You will be banned anyway by tomorrow.

Banned or not banned really doesn't matter... Who know what will happen tomorrow?

Hi, Mr. Tarvo.. Are you trying to disguise urself and said u are the nice guy. Yet, we are the bad guy that loved to exposed people. Please have some common sense..

As i post in the screen-shot, still NO-ONE believed that Jfox or Tarvo ask for Refund!! Even for other A-team members.. Are all A-team members tried to come up with solution to deceived our 14dhs member again..!!! Or All other A-team members already get the refunds already. If it is in this way, I think all 14dhs members from all the world are lost whereby A-team member and Jfox WIN!!

When 14DHS is coming to the end, let's stop iT. And Tarvo, please think inside your heart and are u sure what u said is from Mouth of "HUMAN". Thanks..

http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cashoutwq7.jpg

That is not even JFox's LR account number, as anyone who has upgrade in 14DHS through LR can verify in their own LR account. This is an obvious fake. Why are you doing this?

So cbconti, you mean some one cheating us? And how about your team member Tarvo2005?

Please leave J.Fox and A-Team members out of this.

I really have no idea what you guys think you can gain from all this.When members PMed me about all this, the very first thing I did was to post a caution on this thread and on ASA.

J.Fox is not well and he is in not communication otherwise he would answer this absurdity himself.

Sriracha,everyone knows that you are wwhing here already.How could you try to deceive everyone?This is your last day in MMG and all of us know that the screen shot is a fake one.You have filled in the memo on purpose just to set this all up?


Please do yourself a favor and get a life for yourself.You always seemed to have forgotten that you have admitted that you are wwhing earlier.Everyone saw that.

I don't mean anyone is cheating you. I don't know what you and this other person are trying to do or to prove here.

NO REFUNDS have been made or offered to anyone. JFox is the ONLY one who has the authority to do this, and we all know he is resting on his doctor's orders. If anyone else tries to tell you that they can help you get a refund, they are lying to you and I would like the information passed on to me so I can investigate it.

Things are bad enough right now, with all of the waiting and wondering. We don't need all of this crap brought into the middle of it.

So EL, does that a different Tarvo or Tarvo really a scammer?

Hi NeilGomes...

I´ll try to answerd u´r question.. most of the pictures of the blog were sent to Mr. Fox by a group of investor in DR. i know this because i was refered to 14 dhs by this group.

The pictures are true, this people invested big and did buy all those stuff with there profit.... don´t know if profit just from 14dhs but i know few of the people of the picture...

BTW none of them is Mr. Fox, he doesn´t live in DR. BTW... just in case if someone wonder.....

People Stop making so many acusations... if think u lost u´r money then get out of the forum i don´t see a reason for u to be here...

Some of us still belive that Everything if going to be just fine, and the desition mr. Fox takes will be good for every member of the program like it has always been...

Thank u for everything and
GET WELL SOON MR. FOX WE WISH U THE BEST...

Thus, EL. You are telling me that Jfox is not well.. Then during online conversation, Tarvo was in contact with Jfox for my refund matter for the past few days. This indicated what meaning?? Tarvo play 2 role, either Tarvo and Jfox.. Or he is Tarvo *** Jfox.

And another cbconti - A-team mentioned it that that is not Jfox LR no.. I also notice that. That why i ask Mr. Tarvo. He answered me that it is only one of Jfox PERSONAL acc. As i trusted him, i deposited to him..... Am I so stupid to refund all this?.. as Tarvo is one of A-team members. I trusted HIM.. The acc no is totally different, does that mean that this acc is owned by THE ONE whom ask me to deposit, is it?

Hi Sriracha, i'm offline now and maybe tomorrow i'm not able to login in MNG forum any more.. God bless you with your money.. And the cheater "Tarvo" god know what you doing... Of course Tarvo2005, if you are not that Tarvo, you not need to worry...

Why would you send $2000 to an LR account number when you do not know for sure who it belongs to? This whole thing seems ridiculous to me. If that is indeed the case, take it up with LR support. Posting the same thing here will do you no good.

Again, NO REFUNDS HAVE BEEN MADE OR OFFERED BY JFOX. He is the only person, as Admin, who can do something like this. When the time comes to issue refunds, if that is what he decides to do, you can be certain he will not do it in secret communications.

Please people, use the brains God gave you. Why would anyone send in 40% of their pending amount IN THE HOPES of receiving funds back? I do not believe you have done this either. But I'm not sure what kind of game you are playing in trying to make us believe that you have done so. I hope MMG moderators will take a look at your garbage posts and remove you from this forum.

Christina

That's even better. I was just suggesting restart because people are still surfing and earning more daily while nothing is coming in. That doesn't seem fair for the program.

In the meantime:


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16 Members: wldflower128, wwhhing, snow66, cbconti, KVakinov, Gangsta, tarvo2500, spaghetti67, sledge101, ExecutiveLady, ORINTO, danchi, emaxima, Aton, lappen66, littlebopper


A definate scammer is in the house! Orinto must of put all the MT $ he stole into 14dhs. On that note, this actually becomes amusing for me.


Anyways, Since I ended up more or less compounding, my 14dhs upgrade history is skewed. So I went over to LR and got my history of pay in and pay out from 14dhs, I am NOT in profit by: $356. I created a screen shot, if by chance one day, refunds may be given. I'm doubtful though, as I have been around the block to many times before.

Can you please take a moment to think about all this.

J.Fox ran a flawless program for 9 months,paying 1 hour within expiry, the most lucrative rates,we've seen in a long time.By the time the DDos attacks started 14DH was taking in at least $150K in ugrades daily.

Do you really believe, this man would be interested in swindling a few people privately so they can send him some money.

If he wanted to scam whey would he do it that way, he would send out a notice to ALL members and make them that offer.

PLEASE LEAVE J.FOX OUT OF THIS.The man is sick, for goodness sake.

Thank you, Christina.. Maybe the screen shot is not enough for u to prove.. I shall PM u my LR acc no and password or U pm me (as i dun have point to post).. If u want to check my empty LR account!! because as SOMEONE had promised me the refund which is one of ur A-team members..!!

No-one would come in forum and make noise HERE unless it is truth!! Lots of 14dhs members lost a lot. I just wish them to know the real insight. But the disappointing is that ur A-team member is trying to cheat 14dhs members and scam their money. I am not busybody and trying to bring down 14DHS. But it happened to me the real situation!!



this MAN who?? He attended me and added me over msn during I have online support inside 14dhs website. After then, he asked me to talk secretly at MSN as many people watching inside (I dunno wat he mean). EL, you tried not to tell directly who is this MAN, right? Can u tell me who have the access to have online support with 14dhs members - Please don't give me in vague manner... What this man or whatever things..!! Not Jfox or whatever!!

Hi Sriracha,


That was the lamest excuse I have ever heard.Who with their right mind in this world would have deposited $2000 into an unknown account just for the sake of getting their refunds back.Flaming me is certainly not the way to get your money back.Have any of you investors seen a guy who's willing to provide his LR account number and password?For that,I believe most of you could imagine what kind of personality does he possess.

There's no way that Jfox could do a refund or anything right now.Members please do take note of this!Each and everyone of us will have to wait for his recovery until things get back rolling again and that will include the A-Team as well.


Be sure that none of you have been mislead that the A-Team has all the privilledge from the admin Jfox himself.We are all just investors just as same like each and everyone of you.

I would therefore like to applaud those of you who stand by JFox during these rough times.He'll appreciate all of you r kind words for sure when he comes back.


Thank you for your support and I hope everyone had a good weekend.

I simply meant,J.Fox, of course.He's the one who ran 14DH flawlessy for 9 months,isn't he?

Excellent post there - just shows how trustworthy a-team members are as well LOLOLOLOLOL

I was wondering when you would rear your ugly head here today...lol

That post is complete nonsense. No one has offered refunds. We all know JFox is the only one who has the authority to do this. Since you really don't know what is going on, why even make a comment? Didn't your mother ever tell you, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all?

We all know your view of the situation. It's not necessary to repeat it daily, thank you.

Good* Day Executive Lady, i like your plan* i was thinking 130% Let me add to it! Dump Paypro and LR and go with STP and Strictpay

I like the gossip going around about hearing jfox is withdrawing all fund from LR. I bet the people who read that and believed it are subscribers of National Enquirer. If that was true regardless of my feelings we would not of heard about it. And I hope no one was dumb enough to send money to an account with hopes of a refund.

So, the person in contact with me during online support is who?? Not jfox, then who else? Please explain... Unless some-one is disguised tarvo2500 to have online support with 14dhs members or one of ur A-team members as well... Now i am getting confused.. I tried not blamed other A-team members. I know ur intention to protect each of your A-team member.... However, with screen-shot shown (OK, insufficient evidence), conversation posted (OK, not enough evidence).. what else u want us to show?? U want some more and other person getting into this TRAP again.. and posted such messages again.. And u all tried to clear those rubbish as soon as possible...!!

The way u speaking is same as Tarvo...irresponsible, heartless, cruel .. Whereby u have posted 5000+ post. Who else would respect you since all people regards you as you well-taken care 14dhs members!!!

the only differences is that u not cheating 14dhs members money only (Hope so)

The more I see Sriracha posts the more rubbish it gets. What is he trying to do?
It doesn't make sense at all. ??????????????????

We all know your view, but you repeat it often too.

So thanks for the advice, but I'll continue as I was.

Who knows....all we know for sure is that it's over.

ss says:
I was waiting for you all day
ME says:
yupe..
ss says:
Just don't do anything bad on yourself
ss says:
where have you been today?
ME says:
why u still concerned abt me?
ME says:
i think u just tried to cheat me again..
ss says:
Now you sare saying me cheating on you
ME says:
unless u give me the 20% 1st.. then i trust u.. unlike u ... scam other member's money not only me as well..is it>
ss says:
I have sent it all to Jfox.Now you are turning your back against me.If I know this day will come,I won't even help to get back your account
ME says:
u didn't help me from the days u ask me... I am the one whom stupid.... i can admit it..
ME says:
i am finally realize.. but it is too late..
ss says:
Now you are accusing me
ss says:
just because you didn't get a refund
ME says:
just becoz i throw all my bank deposit .. i left few dollar only.. what would u think... i am lucky that i am alive..though i eat 4 sleeping pill.. MAN>>>>>>>
ss says:
ME I told you not to hurt yourself
ME says:
ccb... take other life as stake..
ss says:
I said I'll be up here,I'll always be
ME says:
so.. ur promise never fullfill...
ss says:
I never promised that he could refund you
ME says:
unless u ask jfox to talk to me..
ss says:
You asked me a question,then I ask him
ss says:
then I reply to you
ME says:
why do in this way...
ME says:
why can't ask him to add me..?
ss says:
He's not using msn
ME says:
because jfox didn't online.. , rite? u just make a fancy tale to trick me..
ME says:
then what he used.....???
ss says:
skype
ME says:
i have skype oso.. i turn on as well..
ss says:
then you can add him
ME says:
u didn't want to help me from the start..
ME says:
plz where is it?
ss says:
14dhsn@yahoo.com
ME says:
i need ur skype and his skype...
ss says:
I told you he's not online
ss says:
tarvo2500@yahoo.com
ss says:
and also weeuyy@yahoo.com
ME says:
i think no such user name.. what u give is bull**** actually..
ss says:
give me yours then
ss says:
what are you waiting for?
ME says:
Ooi_83
ME says:
u are waiting for ?
ss says:
my email
ME says:
ops.. why need ur email?
ss says:
am in
ss says:
to login
ss says:
how do I add you?
ME says:
add contact .. type my username.
ss says:
added
ME says:
then mr. jfox ??
ss says:
he's not online at the moment haven't heard from him today
ME says:
the user name.. i still can add.. if u want to prove u are true... just give me his username...
ss says:
That is easy to say
ME says:
i think u can't twin identify in skype, right?
ss says:
I'm out
ME says:
that why jfox is not online..
ME says:
it is ok.. i understand u lost a lot.. but what for u drag other people into this trap.?? all people got their trouble/ difficulties as well..
ME says:
when u happy, but other people are suffering.. is it the way of liveing u opt for..
ss says:
I don't set trap for others
ss says:
And now you are accusing me again
ME says:
as a human, when in difficulties, all people tried to protect themselves rather to take care other people.. am i right.. as long as u are safe, why u care for...
ss says:
I'm not the human like you just described
ME says:
but when u are not succesffully get back ur acc.. then u involved me into this trap.. then what is that called.???
ss says:
I never set any trap for you
ss says:
You keep saying me setting trap when you didn't get your refund
ME says:
i don't think u can helped me to get refund.. u are just like other scammer just to suck out my money.. is ok..
ME says:
i don't wish to speak such word to u.. but i think it is true..
ME says:
even u.. if from starting, if u still not getting refunded, why drag me into it??
ss says:
I never dragged you into anything
ss says:
You came asking for a refund
ss says:
When you need help,you just get help easily in MSN from me
ss says:
And others have to wait
ss says:
Do you know about that?
ss says:
They have to submit tickets
ME says:
so.. why u tried to tell me? ..
ME says:
u are helpful to get me into this trap in fastest way..
ss says:
I neve promised you anything
ME says:
but at the start,, mentioned ur downline alr refunded.. that y i trust in u.. but after tat.. u twisted ur word.. how can i believe in u in such way..
ss says:
My downlines never got online.I never told you that
ss says:
Everyone wants their refund,not only you
ME says:
but as u told , the deadline is today..?
ss says:
I have not heard from Jfox even for today,it's the weekend
ME says:
ha.. that meant jfox won't refund us.. am i right to conclude that.. in ur opinion.. ?
ME says:
u did conclude that yesterday.. i remember..
ss says:
He'll do what he can.
ss says:
Not heard from him yet
ss says:
As you know
ss says:
I can't say anything on behalf of him
ME says:
u mentioned u want to help .. but how tough i am in currrently.. is tougher than 3 days before u step in to help.. i think u won't know the situation..
ME says:
any case... the life is at stake.... yesterday.. i even tried in many ways to kill myself.. i dun't think u aware of it.. i think u still happily sitting in ur hotel or whatever..
ME says:
to watch tv.. or enjoy ur meal..
ss says:
I've told you times after times not to hurt yourself
ss says:
and no replies from you
ss says:
Did you not get my message?
ss says:
Do you think you are the only one have been scammed before?
ss says:
And you have the right to accuse others
ME says:
then why don't u tell the truth to everyone . all a-team) to prove ur innocent...Jfox are refunding to us but required deposit of 40%. Why u keep cheating me (person who is nothing to live)..
ss says:
No one is cheating you.And you kept saying me
ss says:
Jfox will refund when he sees fit.And that needs to be sorted out
ME says:
but who set this rules of 40% ...
ME says:
why other members no aware of it..??
ME says:
if it is not u..just clarify to all??
ME says:
because.. that is the rule that u set.... right..
ME says:
u didn't surface in anywhere..
ss says:
another accusation.If you want to start accusing again,then I can do it as well
ME says:
why don't u tell what u have done to ur downline or ur friends to all members..? i don't think it would affected u..
ME says:
if that is instruction from jfox.... let all get clearer picture from it..
ss says:
Why not tell everyone that you hacked your own account and set 2 email addresses
ME says:
i was hacked.. that why i open the other emaill address....and my original LR acc already gone..
ME says:
the LR acc currrently is the new since March .. i cann’t restore the old one as it was hacked..
ss says:
LR aco**** can't be changed unless submitting ticket to admin
ME says:
yes.. as u told to jfox.. he change my LR acc..
ME says:
i think u have remember this kind of little things..
ss says:
Yes but everyone knows LR can't be hacked
ME says:
u have forgetted..
ss says:
Only egold is easy to be hacked
ME says:
what don't u tried.. let hacker hack into the computer..
ME says:
i am not hacker..i cannot do this..no way about it..
ss says:
He won't get any security pin from you even if he hacks your PC
ss says:
LR designed that
ss says:
Without security pin,he can't change your password
ME says:
is LR design it? then how come ddos attacked still happend to LR.. ?
ss says:
Designed not to be hacked
ME says:
does that mean no one will get hacked?
ss says:
Yes even if hacker gets into your account,he can't transfer nor change pass without master pin
ss says:
That's the use of the master pin
ss says:
Try login to your LR and change your password
ss says:
You can't change without the pin
ME says:
there is tracked software.. to changed whatever u have done in surfing..
ss says:
Have you really heard LR being hacked?
ME says:
firefox.. have one feature to save all the password when u log into every website..
ss says:
Yes,I know about that
ME says:
u checked ur self..http://www.code4gold.com/blog/2007/07/12/liberty-reserve-reviewed/
ss says:
You never told me how yu got your LR hacked
ME says:
if no one is being hacked.. why got so many hacking stories surfaced out..
ss says:
LR requests you to use your mouse and click on the numbers
ss says:
If you even saved your passwords,it's no sue
ss says:
use* you can't type it
ME says:
but firexfox got feature s to save password... that time. i tot all no problem.. that y i usually save it.. into database.. is more easier..
ss says:
have you heard of problems with firefox?
ss says:
We use firefox because IE sucks
ME says:
as i said.. after i indirectly accept virus files from email or whatever.. at that time.. i don't have any antivirus installed.. that why the virus no scan. and pierced through my PC system..
ss says:
where did you get it from?
ME says:
what for i lie to u .. regards hacking matter..am i want to trouble u.. if i am able to surf 14dhs comfortably..
ss says:
It's not likely the one who sent virus knows that you use LR
ME says:
all such stories.. i already email to u and jfox.. about situation.. now u are the one whom ask me again.??
ME says:
i still keeping the email that i sent to u and jfox ...ok?
ss says:
You only told me your LR was hacked and also 14dhs account
ss says:
I asked you to email Jfox everything
ss says:
I don't need to know all that
ME says:
yeah... as i explained to jfox.. i email to u.. and jfox .. as well..
ss says:
If even he hacked you,he can't change anything without the master pin
ME says:
sorry .. the master pin already saved in the database.. as well.. there is a prompt message to save permanently..
ss says:
Then what are you using mozilla for if it's not safe?
ss says:
I've received viruses but my passwords never got hacked
ME says:
i am ignorant.. i didn't install any antivirus at that time.. and the virus is easily pierce through untill i discovered i am being hacked..
ME says:
and virus had many type.... did u aware? anyway.u mentioned all this.. u want to try all this experience before u believe in all this...
ss says:
I have only experienced in egold
ss says:
and not hacking from mozilla to LR
ME says:
so... since I give u 40% of refund to jfox as instructed by u.. could u confirm that i still have hope...
ss says:
You never sent any money to me but jfox. Refunding is up to Jfox.
ss says:
He's the admin and he decides who to refund to.
ME says:
However, i send the money according to your instruction.
ME says:
he decides? or he want to scam more money..?
ME says:
why other A-team members not aware of it?
ss says:
He's the admin.He manages the program
ss says:
You can't just accuse anyone no matter what he did.
ss says:
Even if you don't get your refund back.
ME says:
so.. doesn't it meant u are the only A-team member who help refund of your downline..
ss says:
I have not heard from my downlines anymore like I've told you
ME says:
that is the funny parts.... because all downline was scammed by jfox?
ss says:
How would I ever know?
ME says:
As i know, yesterday and today. jfox was around.. U could check with him the refund of ur downlines, right?
ME says:
then u could send me confirmation regards this.. ? but did u do this?
ss says:
I haven’t cheked anything with him,and my downlines never come to me after I help them refunded
ME says:
U helped downline to get refund, is it? not only me, right?
ss says:
I helped them,once but they never feedback to me whether they are being paid.
ME says:
but u did mentioned ur downline get refunded??
ME says:
2 days ago.. u mentioned..it..
ss says:
I never said that,they never online so I don't know anything about them
ME says:
u want to deny it..
ss says:
I told you many times they didn't online
ss says:
and you asked me to check with Jfox
ME says:
then Jfox ask u to instruct me to send in 40% of refund?
ME says:
is it true.. that is the only way i hope u talked to me in truth..
ss says:
He only stated the refund in the email.
ss says:
He never said he's going to refund anyone for sure if you send any money to him
ME says:
then why u ask me to send in 40% of refund..
ss says:
You can ask for refund,I never promised you anything.
ME says:
i did ask for refund.. but in order to get refund, you said need deposit 40% of it.. before getting right?
ME says:
as instructed by jfox..
ss says:
That's the rule you PMed all members about and they'll know it
ME says:
so.... why don't u post it to all? anyway. that is rule set by jfox.. how don't let other members aware of it..
ME says:
then why in the 1st place, u ask me to give 40% of refund which end in no way (which Tarvo had known the outcome)..
ss says:
I never asked you to send any money to me only Jfox.I never promised you,how could I say I know the outcome?
ME says:
yes. u ask me to send money to jfox.. u said he will verify and process my cashout .. 1st day, you said "anytime from now" .. 2nd day, “server time 00:00a.m.”
ME says:
that why i am in desperation of waiting.. without sleeping and in anxiety..
ss says:
I have no idea about him.If he never refunded you,it's not me to be blamed
ME says:
u said u promised to help me.. u will help to the end.. but u didn't?
ss says:
I've told you that he's the admin and he manages everythingf
ss says:
Do you still remember?
ME says:
but ur promise to help is no value , right?
ss says:
He decides everything for members,not even A-Team can change his mind.
ss says:
A-Team is only for giving advice
ME says:
these 2 days, jfox is online and talked to u? why don't he talked to other A-team?
ss says:
Who are you trying to accuse again now?
ss says:
Jfox,me or the A-Team?
ss says:
or everyone?
ME says:
i just want to know the truth only....
ME says:
bcoz i think u not tell me the truth.. all these few days.. u are tried to get my money to get refund that u promised u will help me..
ss says:
After everything,you are blaming back on me again.
ME says:
as i mentioned .. u promised .. u would help.. as u mentioned .. i felt better.. but after these 2 days, things are the other way around.. how can i believe in you since u have let me dissapointed..
ss says:
You can't blame me on everything as well.You did know how to say humans are not perfect
ss says:
and you are telling all these to me again
ME says:
then u know that i am in big debt.. ur promise is like more than everything in the world ord.. U had helped u regards hacking matter .. that why I trust u fully.. don't u know it.. or u just my trust in granted, is it?
ss says:
You get me wrong.Sometimes things don't go the way you expect it to be.How long did I take to help you when you were hacked?
ss says:
And how many surfing days did you lose?Did you get credited back?
ss says:
You kept messaging me non stop just about your account and I never said a word about it
ss says:
If I didn't help you,your mail will just continues to be under the pile of tickets
ss says:
And Jfox won't even trust in you.
ss says:
Any hacker could just send a mail like you after knowing your email address
ME says:
yeah... that why i trust u since the hack problem surfaced ... after i told my pending cashout .. and my situation.. u didn't check if the refund will be deposited or not.. then u promised me in ambiguity status .... why? doesn't it take my trust in granted?
ss says:
I never promised you that you will get your account back nor refund.It's all up to the admin.
ME says:
then why u said that jfox promised to refund on what time.. all those **** things..
ss says:
All I have told you that I'll do my best to help. And you took it for granted that it'll sure be a success.
ss says:
You have to ask him about the refunds.He'll refund all if he decides for members.
ME says:
but it look like it shall be the end.. right.. as u said .. sunday.. Jfox shall took out all the money from LR acc ord.
ss says:
I have never heard from him since yesterday. Thus far, he is not yet online today.
ss says:
If even he takes all,it can be for investments
ss says:
Like always I said,he decides it all.
ss says:
You can keep blaming me but the end decision will be his.
ME says:
i think from now on, I won't easily trust the person already .. even though he had helped me once to get my trust.