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hi all . i got this message from raynathan .please read this message :

Just for your information, i just my initial refund from 14DHS.. To help u all, i heard secretly from Tarvo (A-team) - [close friend of Jfox] mentioned that Jfox shall withrawn all money from LR this sunday..14DHS is gone soon. WOrk fast. if u want to get ur initial. Only downlines or friends from Tarvo will get this privilledge. No refund to all members. PM me ur msn .. if u wish to


Rgds
raynathan



please . reply about this message

A caution was posted yesterday regarding this.

This is not true.If anyone falls for this they will simply lose their money.

Please use your judgement everyone.Don't fall for obvious tricks like this.

EL, Thank you for you effort and constant support to all of 14DHS members. That's priceless.

Let's hope for a happy 14DHS end for all of us!

14DHS will get health soon ... JFox is a very dedicated man and he will not run out with our money, this was promise from me. You are talking with 3 years experience in Autosurf industry and lived all good and bad sides of all Autosurfs history

Believe or not, I'm not in Profit at all. My upgrades expired the day the database messed up and got all that errors, huge money there and I'm still 100% positive and supporting 14DHS in all ways

Thank you,Majdi.We missed your posts.

I guess we are in the same situation.
Surely JFox will get well soon and will back like the good old times.

Members are and have always been the strength of 14DH.The trust and confidence that has been built over 9 months is the biggest asset 14DH has and this will take us past the current challenge.

When J.Fox gets well and decides we can carry on, there'll be no stopping 14DH.

lol, them guys who try these sort of things are stupid, imo. if anyone ask you give me 20 % & i'll get you 100% of your deposit back. just tell him to give you back the 80% and can keep the 20% from there. lol. watch how they'll run then. don't know why they think they can fool people easily, as if we will really pay them 20% to get all our money back. lol

You're absolutely correct, but there are a few people who may fall for it not because they are not bright, but because they feel vulnerable and feel they need to take the chance.

Those are the members we are thinking about.

thanks to you and 14dhs

i deposited twice from lr and was paid just once and ofcourse both my deposits were higher than the payment so means i am NOT in profit !!

i deposited 420$ and 175$ from LR and was paid 245$ .. leaves me with a loss of 350$

and ofcourse the time wasted surfing plus 2 compounds from cash balance wont matter !!

All is over! The 14DHS had gone TODAY! Those who get refund, just be quite and leave as instructed by Tarvo and Jfox.. Jfox had just withrawn all his money from LR (30#) and Paypro (10#) already. It was OVER. The game is OVER.

As I said only, those are friends of Tarvo have trust in Tarvo (close friend of Jfox), can get the refunds. For those A-team members keep consoling the members, none of them is ever contacted to Jfox for the past few days for sure. Only Tarvo. Since the last post by EL regards Jfox news, Tarvo had disappeared as he get the money and leave quitely. Other declared as A-team are hide under the truth, just want to cover the fact.

Believed it or not. You all go and decide in whatever u want! I am not losing anyway. Need not to be helpful anyway. Jfox is Scammer or Not! It was up to u all to assess from your experience in Autosurf industry. At least I had been get refunds, I am able to leave happily. I am just pity for people whom are in big loss still.

Anyway, good luck to u all and other A-team members. You all are still the best in making this DEAD 14DHS forum lively and vibrant by consoling members.

what are you trying to say ?? be clear , you mean to say from the A - Team members only tarvo was involved in this with jfox ?? and others were left hanging ??

I think you better ask him directly in MSN. He's MSN email was owc_83@hotmail.com.

Imagine that...This raynathan, after yesterday posts, have nerve to show here again and making ANOTHER post....What kind of human are you, if any? I cannot believe God allows people like this walking on Earth...
Just waiting for JFox to came back, this whole mess will be cleared then...

Life is (almost always) good

Let's just hope 14DHS Liberty Reserve & PayPro accounts haven't been completely emptied by hackers ...

Pierre

Just be calm everyone.

Raynathan is probably just very angry because he didn't get any takers for his little scam and so he comes here and makes this absurd post.


He's PMing everyone,even an A-Team member.

Hello Everyone,

I would like to draw some conclusions from what that idiot raynathan said..

This is a positive side just for members to keep their minds positive..

1) Jfox cannot withdraw 3M$ in one go, can he? It's impossible for a man to w/d 3M$ in one go and overnight..

2) Jfox disabled the upgrades so that no one could upgrade, that means he's not a man who's greedy of money. He's a good business person who has a family and kids.

3) he had loads of plans, and he auditing the accounts on may 19th and 20th proves the point that attackers were on the move and it's transparent to all the members, that Jfox has been transparent to all people even though he did'nt tell people what he was doing. That's Jfox style.

Drawing these conclusions, I would say, this raynathan guy is such a cheap ass that he can do anything. Such people cannot be trusted friends.

Just for people who were curious.

A-Team,

amrutrk.

I saw tarvo2500 was in here. Maybe Tarvo2005 should explain the situation since Raynathan highlighter his name and he didn't reply anything negative or positive feedback.

Yes tarvo2500 is going to confirm what we already know for sure

Poor raynathan ...

Pierre

received this message also. have deleted .

If you get a PM from him,just delete it.

I asked Raynathan to prove to me how he is so close to Tarvo and all he could come up with is that he has Tarvos MSN email.

LOL, Tarvo had that in his signature for everyone. Funny that people are even believing this Raynathan guy.

Hi everyone,

This guy Raynathan is using my name against myself and PMing all members in this thread. Did he not know he could've been banned for doing so?That's spamming and it's prohibited in MMG.Please all members,do not ever attempt to contact this guy nor be fooled by him.Just like John89 said,there's no reason for anyone of you to send 20% of your pending cashouts to him.

Never ever fall for it people.It doesn't make any sense at all.He's just a normal investor like anyone of us here.And now most of the A-Team are getting PMs non-stop from this guy.

Here,I wish everyone a pleasant weekend with your families.



Tarvo

Even Raynathan is closed to Tarvo, then, how we know Tarvo was closed to Jfox and Jfox only tell him this and rest of the A-Team member didn't know this. Tarvo need to clarify for sure!

I can confirm that Raynathan is nothing more then a member here. He didnt even sign up under Tarvo. He has been PMing me and Im sure everyone else. Again, he tried to prove is closeness to Tarvo with having Tarvos MSN email. Wow, what an idiot. Ignore him.

Since 14dhs was disable for upgrading, does that mean Jfox was went online to do that and do some other thing like LR & PP balance?

Thanks Tarvo for clarifying

Pierre

As Far as I know Tarvo, he's not of that kind..

You know what guys, Every member of our A-Team are such a good guys and such professionals that I can't believe Tarvo can do such things and that too abruptly..

Think the raynathan guy is so desperate that he posted that..

His post behavior showed that he was desperate and now everyone will contact him atleast today.

That might be his motive, but please have patience, 14DS was not built in a day, it took 9 long months to prove the honesty and even now upgrades have been disabled that shows how honestly the process is being taken out..

All I can request for is patience, support, flowers for Jfox and prayers for him..

That's all for now from me, hope I covered everything..

A-Team,

amrutrk.

I don't need a message, I want my money back, just it.

hi Raynathan!! close your mouth and pay us!

hi Jfox! I hope you

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I have just finished my daily surf , I don't lose good habits ... and I'm not the only one to surf at this time

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Active Members 1594
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Total Withdraw $6309652.97

Pierre

I think now already meaningless to judge who is lier.. Jfox? Tarvo2005? Or Raynathan? If JFox didn't came online and provide an update, we all are hopeless since even A-Team not able to contact him directly....

BTW PayPro always down for me ...

Pierre

hey raynathan, i hope u don't mind me asking, but if u have got refunded, then please show us proof. ppl post screenshots of LR payments when they get paid, so i think you shud be able to show us the refunded money.

Thanks,tarvo.

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Pierre

Where are you tarvo.. You said that you take our pending payment and give it to Jfox as I am your downline. Jfox shall return to me immediately. I already paid you the 40% of refund.. Please clarify with me.. If not, I am going to dispose all ur chatting conversation from the past 2 days, including the email... Let's all people question u.. Raynathan never PM for it.. But i just want the answer.. You scam or Jfo x scam me..

whatch your mouth

You knew that As industry is risky so better shut up

First of all,I don't have a downline like the kind of Raynathan.You can accuse all you want.And also you can post whatever you want,chats,emails,etc because I provide my chat IDs in signature before this.

If you are one of the kind of Raynathan,you can get a full copy from him.I have never been in forum for these past few days.Just do it.I'll be right here standing still.

The writing is on the wall, I am not spending any more time in this thread.

Just my 10c worth but if 14days is to continue the follow needs to be done:

1. Audit of all accounts. If JFox can't do it then he needs to pick someone he trusts to get access to the admin panel. The longer it takes for action to start the less likely 14days will return.

2. All accounts in profit (more withdrawn than deposited of real money) to be reset to zero.

3. Total amount owed for of all accounts not in profit.

4. A total of the current reserves in LR and PayPro.

5. Use 70% of reserves to pay members not in profit. Every member getting the same percentage and the rest for restart.

6. Add a 3% withdrawal fee and pay off the remaining amount for not in profit members. After that drop it or continue to build a decent reserve.

I'm not in profit myself and would be happy to get something now and the rest later. 14days gets back on track and we'll have some money to invest. This way everyone wins.

LOL.. are you already there ? They have internet in Hell ?
Keep ur black words for you dear... even if someone hurts you alot u don't need to wish him death... this words are a proof of your education.. if you have one..

Good luck all!

Regards,
Bogdanel

they ahve internet but they are banned

why so many people become so angry?

When you register on this kind of forum ond join a HYIP / AutoSurf program from the beginning you know that it won't last for ever

some day will fall and this is normally

so invest with your head not greedily and watch your mouth if you (if not...i have no words for you)

Oh , are you this bad to go to hell ?

if you make peace with JFox still on earth you both will go to heaven ...

I have received PM from wwhhing. Too bad I cannot PM him.. As i have less post.



Is that so, I don't think another member feedback me as He always face same problem as ME!! Now as i browse, 3 person are facing same situation as ME. (Kanekanekane, Me and wwhhing (maybe) I dun't want to argue with YOU.. I feel that YOU may SCAM us the 40% of deposit.. or together SCAM us with Jfox.. I really have no idea. Why only raynathan get refund? not us? we also deposited refund into Jfox liberty reserver account. Please clarify!!

anyone knows the condition of jfox?

what kind of sickness..disease? cancer? etc...


tq

If you are so firm on your claims,please do post a screen shot that you have sent the money to Jfox account.How did you conclude that Raynathan get any refund from the admin?

I can say I've deposited in Jfox's LR account as well and never gotten any refund.

As I understand your's post, you and two other guys actually payed 40 % to someone???? That raynathan dude?????? Only because you got PM form him?????????? C'mon, you cannot be THAT naive...

Life is good

I 2nd that how could someone pay a percentage to someone else thinking they were getting a refund.