You will have to find out with your bank how much they will charge you.It's usually a small amount.
You need to go to your bank- and give them the details of PayPro's Account for them to send the wire.It's very easy. You will just have to fill in a Bank Slip.
Executive Lady do you still want pictures of my strays? If you win the contest prize 3 you can donate to me. I am a little worried about Scooter he has been battling a urinary infection this time my vet is having the lab do a culture the infection seems to be finally gone but there is blood there. I hope its nothing serious all I asked my vet was if I don't have the cash upfront he said don't worry payment arrangements. Prize number 3 would be nice for me I now have 5 upgrades I want to keep going so I can earn a profit for my babies. May the best person win. LR being down will not affect the program will it? I am glad I chose Paypro when I changed processors. By the way Scooter is 14.
Prescious
May 2 2008, 09:34 AM
OMG, 14dh is still here?
ExecutiveLady
May 2 2008, 09:58 AM
Hi KV,
Yes, I would love to see Pics of all your "babies"- I hope scooter will be fine.
I will also fervently hope that you win at least the upgrades (don't bet on me winning- I really never do!)and I'll be very glad to contribute to your fund with my regular 14DH earnings when we roll again.
The LR downtime will NOT affect 14DH.Please don't worry- all will be well.
QUOTE (KVakinov @ May 2 2008, 09:32 PM)
Executive Lady do you still want pictures of my strays? If you win the contest prize 3 you can donate to me. I am a little worried about Scooter he has been battling a urinary infection this time my vet is having the lab do a culture the infection seems to be finally gone but there is blood there. I hope its nothing serious all I asked my vet was if I don't have the cash upfront he said don't worry payment arrangements. Prize number 3 would be nice for me I now have 5 upgrades I want to keep going so I can earn a profit for my babies. May the best person win. LR being down will not affect the program will it? I am glad I chose Paypro when I changed processors. By the way Scooter is 14.
OMG- where have you been??
QUOTE (Prescious @ May 2 2008, 09:34 PM)
OMG, 14dh is still here?
frabi
May 2 2008, 10:05 AM
QUOTE (JACOBKELL @ May 2 2008, 07:13 AM)
Huh,if realy this LR situation will cause shut down of 14dhs then i would realy start to belive how every program which i join will die after i join.But again 14dhs had problem with egold and it still managed to fix it.
Don't worry it's not your destiny to have a negative influence, the "join a site and the site closes" happened to more persons than only to you and it's the problem of the sites, not our problem. 14 DHS has the best imaginable manager, there will be no problem with 14 DHS, although 14 DHS has not only friends because it is the comet at the sky that makes all other lights look tiny
treebartt
May 2 2008, 10:12 AM
QUOTE (danchi @ May 2 2008, 11:06 AM)
Oh my...Still no news from LR? Well, I will do mine surf later...Hope they will pop-up in few hours...6 PM here now
Life is good
I still don't understand why this admin won't accept STP and AP, especially with the LR problems now.
I had a friend who was willing to join under me, but he has no Paypro or LR, so I lost my one and only
referral here!!!!!
mc13fr
May 2 2008, 11:20 AM
QUOTE (demalex @ May 2 2008, 02:49 PM)
I think we need to invite Mr J. Fox here to this thread to see what he is personally think about this situation and what he will do if LR will be offline for let's say 5 days or more... I'm tired of all this LR **** - up - down - up - down. 14DH is the best program ever and I have a lot of $ there and I don't want to loose it because of this LR fiasco. They just have learnt nothing from their past experiences, how many times their website was offline this year?!! People transfer millions dollars daily through their system and they can't buy advanced ddos protection from Prolexic??! ddos attacks shouldn't take more than 24 hours if the server maintenance team is well experienced but what we have? It's down for more than 50 hours already! I know egold was having similar problems but it was always fixed next day. I found some info about them:
LIBERTYRESERVE.COM 1849 - 4050 ALAJUELA Costa Rica www.libertyreserve.com business@libertyreserve.com Business Type(s): Internet > Ecommerce; Operating Hours: none Description: The next generation on-line payment system. Secure, private, instant payments.
But I haven't found their phone number. Maybe somebody good in research and can find their phone number and call them... Don't let them bring this great program down. We should do something
LR phone number ?
I have just sent an email to support@libertyreserve.com asking for an update but I don't expect to receive an answer ... if only they could post an update on their official blog ...
LR ... 59 hours down ...
Pierre
sohaibahmad
May 2 2008, 11:29 AM
this is really not good news. I have a lot of money in 14DHS, but if LR stays down, this Autosurf will be in trouble. 2 yrs ago, when 12dp was at peak, Stormpay was the cause of the destruction. I just hope LR doesn't do that. Are they professionals or not? the website has been down for nearly 3 days now. What's the point of running a site which u can't control, everyday LR goes up & down. i just hope that LR haven't run out on us and legged it with the money. and 14dhs will be in bad position unless LR come back up & SOON. i really don't want either site to end. bye
KVakinov
May 2 2008, 11:36 AM
QUOTE (sohaibahmad @ May 2 2008, 02:29 PM)
this is really not good news. I have a lot of money in 14DHS, but if LR stays down, this Autosurf will be in trouble. 2 yrs ago, when 12dp was at peak, Stormpay was the cause of the destruction. I just hope LR doesn't do that. Are they professionals or not? the website has been down for nearly 3 days now. What's the point of running a site which u can't control, everyday LR goes up & down. i just hope that LR haven't run out on us and legged it with the money. and 14dhs will be in bad position unless LR come back up & SOON. i really don't want either site to end. bye
Don't panic I don't use LR but I don't think thats the case here. Stormpay just ran with the money there was no attack. I read paypro upgrades are doublings because of LR downtime.
skaughtiee
May 2 2008, 11:39 AM
Ya, it seems that most everyone is putting money into PayProNet.net and countinueing with the program. Even if LR just disappears, this site will continue.
Monitorcheckpaying
May 2 2008, 11:40 AM
QUOTE (mc13fr @ May 2 2008, 04:20 PM)
LR phone number ?
I have just sent an email to support@libertyreserve.com asking for an update but I don't expect to receive an answer ... if only they could post an update on their official blog ...
LR ... 59 hours down ...
Pierre
Hi I agree by your idea about LR (down-up) .now no news about LR ddos protection is very simple for them but i dont know why they are dont set any phone numbers on LR website !!! I remember ago LR always fix them problems after 24hours but at this time LR is donw about 4days . All admins and programers ago when egold started to block accounts of all programs and them members decided to find new processor that at last choiced LR but now what happend? I think must again all admins let s to new meeting about this problems from LR and decide about new processor of other about LR!!! Not to bad that jfox and his team say members here about their thinks
gauranggupta
May 2 2008, 11:44 AM
QUOTE (sohaibahmad @ May 2 2008, 12:29 PM)
this is really not good news. I have a lot of money in 14DHS, but if LR stays down, this Autosurf will be in trouble. 2 yrs ago, when 12dp was at peak, Stormpay was the cause of the destruction. I just hope LR doesn't do that. Are they professionals or not? the website has been down for nearly 3 days now. What's the point of running a site which u can't control, everyday LR goes up & down. i just hope that LR haven't run out on us and legged it with the money. and 14dhs will be in bad position unless LR come back up & SOON. i really don't want either site to end. bye
the stormpay situation was different anyways coming back to this surf i dont understand why the admin did not put this surf on freeze when lr went down ( means no surfing / no earnings till lr is back up ) now i am just hoping we dont get a situation where lr comes back after 2 days more and the admin starts to make payments and people dont re - upgrade back and secondly if lr is down for say another 2-3 days then its obvious that this site wont pay in 1 -2 hrs like it is now on expiry and cashouts are bound to take longer for no fault of admins , i just hope this dosent put people off !!
i personally want 14dh to stay for long as its a superb site , if jfox comes through this when lrs back up then trust me this surfs going to go nowhere anytime soon , this period to me is make or break !!
Monitorcheckpaying
May 2 2008, 11:54 AM
What do you think about altergold &vmoney&paypro processors? My question is of members!!! Please reply
KVakinov
May 2 2008, 11:55 AM
QUOTE (gauranggupta @ May 2 2008, 02:44 PM)
the stormpay situation was different anyways coming back to this surf i dont understand why the admin did not put this surf on freeze when lr went down ( means no surfing / no earnings till lr is back up ) now i am just hoping we dont get a situation where lr comes back after 2 days more and the admin starts to make payments and people dont re - upgrade back and secondly if lr is down for say another 2-3 days then its obvious that this site wont pay in 1 -2 hrs like it is now on expiry and cashouts are bound to take longer for no fault of admins , i just hope this dosent put people off !!
i personally want 14dh to stay for long as its a superb site , if jfox comes through this when lrs back up then trust me this surfs going to go nowhere anytime soon , this period to me is make or break !!
STP was down for several days and they came back.
cbconti
May 2 2008, 11:59 AM
I don't know much about either altergold or vmoney, but I've been using PayPro since the beginning of March and haven't had any problems with them at all. Very fast to both fund my PayPro account by wire transfer and to receive wire transfer back to my checking account.
QUOTE (Monitorcheckpaying @ May 2 2008, 02:54 PM)
What do you think about altergold &vmoney&paypro processors? My question is of members!!! Please reply
skaughtiee
May 2 2008, 12:07 PM
QUOTE (gauranggupta @ May 2 2008, 01:44 PM)
i dont understand why the admin did not put this surf on freeze when lr went down ( means no surfing / no earnings till lr is back up )
Why put the surf on freeze and effect others that shouldnt be effected? Everyone using PayProNet.net is making upgrades and earning still. A lot of people would be ticked if this surf went on a lockdown or went "on freeze."
cbconti
May 2 2008, 12:12 PM
I absolutely agree. JFox is doing the right thing in continuing to pay PayPro upgrades as they expire. More people need to start using PayPro so they can be earning.
When LR is back up, things will be dealt with as quickly as possible. The main thing here is to NOT PANIC. 14DHS and JFox are not going anywhere. We are all just in a waiting game right now, waiting for LR to take care of their problem and get their site back up and functional.
Meanwhile, the contest is still ongoing, so get your PayPro upgrades in for a chance to win those great prizes!
Christina
QUOTE (skaughtiee @ May 2 2008, 03:07 PM)
Why put the surf on freeze and effect others that shouldnt be effected? Everyone using PayProNet.net is making upgrades and earning still. A lot of people would be ticked if this surf went on a lockdown or went "on freeze."
KVakinov
May 2 2008, 12:13 PM
QUOTE (skaughtiee @ May 2 2008, 03:07 PM)
Why put the surf on freeze and effect others that shouldnt be effected? Everyone using PayProNet.net is making upgrades and earning still. A lot of people would be ticked if this surf went on a lockdown or went "on freeze."
I agree if surfs froze because of processor downtime surfs will be open and closed all week long. I am paypro and I feel for you lr members but I shouldn't suffer because its down.
Monitorcheckpaying
May 2 2008, 12:23 PM
LR is back up soon as possible again i m dont worry about that at all becasue LR was down about 3 days ago. I have more than $1000 on 14DHS and hope jfox dont get any problem by downing LR and go on his work after back LR to up!!!! Thanks for your support here dear jfox & Christina;)
cbconti
May 2 2008, 12:29 PM
Thank you. I too hope that LR will be back up as soon as possible. But rest assured, JFox has no intention of going anywhere.
14DHS is the BEST!!!
Christina
QUOTE (Monitorcheckpaying @ May 2 2008, 03:23 PM)
LR is back up soon as possible again i m dont worry about that at all becasue LR was down about 3 days ago. I have more than $1000 on 14DHS and hope jfox dont get any problem by downing LR and go on his work after back LR to up!!!! Thanks for your support here dear jfox & Christina;)
Takku
May 2 2008, 12:35 PM
HEY! I was able to make an upgrade using LR! Here is the proof!
Might just have gotten lucky though.. take it for what it's worth, yesterday I was almost able to do the same but it froze before I got in the login screen. Cheers.
danchi
May 2 2008, 12:40 PM
QUOTE (cbconti @ May 2 2008, 12:29 PM)
Thank you. I too hope that LR will be back up as soon as possible. But rest assured, JFox has no intention of going anywhere.
14DHS is the BEST!!!
Christina
Same here...I think I'm gonna fund mine PayPro acc Now, something for people who have e-gold acc...I got this mail yesterday: "Dear e-gold account holder,
Due to concerns, for the safety and integrity of your account we have issued this warning message.
It has come to our attention that you are involved with High Yield Investment Program (HYIP) industry. Therefore, you will have to agree with new Account User Agreement modifications, if you want to continue using our service.
Once you have reviewed and agreed with these modifications your e-gold account service will not be interrupted and will continue as normal. Failure to accept a new agreement may lead to account suspension.
Please use a particular link below to login to your account.
Thank you in advance for your prompt response. --------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated email message. ---------------------------------------------"
Sender is BlockedRobot_donotreply@e-gold.com
So I clicked on link, and, THANX GOD FOR NETCRAFT I USING who warned me, this one is SCAM, to make you give them (senders of mail) your's details (pass etc). I posted some more about that on mine blog, including link to NETCRAFT. Beware, boys and girls, we are swimming in waters full of sharks
Gonna do mine surf and off to bed, almost 11 PM here, hope to LR goes up soon. Good night
Life is good
cbconti
May 2 2008, 12:44 PM
Thanks for the info. I would try it myself, but I already have 14 upgrades, plus I have already surfed for today. Anyone else want to give it a try and report back to us?
Christina
QUOTE (Takku @ May 2 2008, 03:35 PM)
HEY! I was able to make an upgrade using LR! Here is the proof!
Might just have gotten lucky though.. take it for what it's worth, yesterday I was almost able to do the same but it froze before I got in the login screen. Cheers.
demalex
May 2 2008, 12:49 PM
QUOTE (Takku @ May 2 2008, 12:35 PM)
HEY! I was able to make an upgrade using LR! Here is the proof!
Might just have gotten lucky though.. take it for what it's worth, yesterday I was almost able to do the same but it froze before I got in the login screen. Cheers.
You were able to make a spend? I can't even load main page
cbconti
May 2 2008, 12:51 PM
The last time LR was down, I was able to do a spend. I couldn't bring up the main page either, but when I went through my 14DHS account to make a spend, it went through. Not sure if that is the case here, but we have had one report that a spend was made.
Christina
QUOTE (demalex @ May 2 2008, 03:49 PM)
You were able to make a spend? I can't even load main page
Takku
May 2 2008, 12:54 PM
I haven't been able to load the main page in ages myself, I just clicked on upgrade on 14DHS, and then did the normal procedure from there, maybe it was all about timing.. but it all went just normal and smooth from there? I'm not kidding here.. I have no idea what just happened. I'm not complaining though, even if we're talking about a tiny 5USD upgrade here, I do wish people would try to spend to make the program going anyhow.
KVakinov
May 2 2008, 01:06 PM
QUOTE (danchi @ May 2 2008, 03:40 PM)
Same here...I think I'm gonna fund mine PayPro acc Now, something for people who have e-gold acc...I got this mail yesterday: "Dear e-gold account holder,
Due to concerns, for the safety and integrity of your account we have issued this warning message.
It has come to our attention that you are involved with High Yield Investment Program (HYIP) industry. Therefore, you will have to agree with new Account User Agreement modifications, if you want to continue using our service.
Once you have reviewed and agreed with these modifications your e-gold account service will not be interrupted and will continue as normal. Failure to accept a new agreement may lead to account suspension.
Please use a particular link below to login to your account.
Thank you in advance for your prompt response. --------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated email message. ---------------------------------------------"
Sender is BlockedRobot_donotreply@e-gold.com
So I clicked on link, and, THANX GOD FOR NETCRAFT I USING who warned me, this one is SCAM, to make you give them (senders of mail) your's details (pass etc). I posted some more about that on mine blog, including link to NETCRAFT. Beware, boys and girls, we are swimming in waters full of sharks
Gonna do mine surf and off to bed, almost 11 PM here, hope to LR goes up soon. Good night
Life is good
Everyone should go by my policy whenever I get an e-mail from ANY PROCESSOR I never click on anything even if I know beyond a doubt that its from them. I pull up my internet type in manually and I have never been hacked either. But look at this fake e-mail its a new one.
Hello,
My name is Sgt.Smith Ben,an American soldier, I am serving in the military of the 3rd Infantry Division in Iraq.I am in Iraq at the moment,I and my partner moved one of the boxes containing funds which we believe is belonging to Saddam Hussein in March 2003, the total fund in this box is $12,000,000.00 (Twelve million US dollars), this fund had been moved via a safe Diplomatic Courier Service to a secured security company, Click on thislink:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2988455.stm
Basically since we are working for the American government we cannot keep these funds, since we are three that are involved. This means that you wll take 30 percent, I will take 30 percent, and my partner will take 30 percent. 10 percent will be kept aside for expenses.
This business is confidential, and we plead that it should not be discussed with anyone.There is no risk whatsoever involved as we left this fund in the Security company without declaring it's contents for this period of time to make sure that the fund will be safe for transfer and investment. If you are interested I will send you the full details, my job is to find a good partner that we can trust and will assist us.kindly send me an e-mail signifying your interest including your telephone/fax numbers for quick communication and also your contact details. I assure you that this transaction is risk free and its success is 100% guaranteed,Please help us to help you. Please get in touch with me.
Yours-in-service, Sgt.Smith Ben.
sohaibahmad
May 2 2008, 01:16 PM
QUOTE (gauranggupta @ May 2 2008, 11:44 AM)
the stormpay situation was different anyways coming back to this surf i dont understand why the admin did not put this surf on freeze when lr went down ( means no surfing / no earnings till lr is back up ) now i am just hoping we dont get a situation where lr comes back after 2 days more and the admin starts to make payments and people dont re - upgrade back and secondly if lr is down for say another 2-3 days then its obvious that this site wont pay in 1 -2 hrs like it is now on expiry and cashouts are bound to take longer for no fault of admins , i just hope this dosent put people off !!
i personally want 14dh to stay for long as its a superb site , if jfox comes through this when lrs back up then trust me this surfs going to go nowhere anytime soon , this period to me is make or break !!
Yeh, that's exactly what i was thinking about and i talked to the Support team abuot that as well. Admin should have frozen LR Upgrades, and carried on with Paypro until LR is back. but i'm sure no one knew that LR would be down for 4 days and running, it was only for a few hours usually. so when (if) LR comes back, Admin would have to do a massive payout, and i'm sure people won't reupgrade that soon. oh, i just hope it goes back to normal (4 days ago).
mc13fr
May 2 2008, 01:33 PM
QUOTE (cbconti @ May 2 2008, 10:44 PM)
Thanks for the info. I would try it myself, but I already have 14 upgrades, plus I have already surfed for today. Anyone else want to give it a try and report back to us?
Christina
It does work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ID Amount % Buy Date Expire Date Earnings Bal. 21626 $1110 10.00 2008-05-02 16:21:02 2008-05-16 $0
Why does it work ? The answer is very easy , the upgrade process is only using sci.libertyreserve.com
Only libertyreserve.com is down , sci.libertyreserve.com and blog.libertyreserve.com are up
Pierre
ankor
May 2 2008, 01:46 PM
I just tried upgrade in another surf using LR and it works !
blessedchild
May 2 2008, 01:47 PM
Takku u are right. here is my proof! Transfer Successful Your transfer was successful!
This merchant has received your funds. Date 5/2/2008 23:42 Batch 2792067 To U5804 (14DHSN) From U7702 () Amount $202.00 wow! this is great! every body wake up, LR is back!
mc13fr
May 2 2008, 01:51 PM
QUOTE (Takku @ May 2 2008, 10:35 PM)
HEY! I was able to make an upgrade using LR! Here is the proof!
Might just have gotten lucky though.. take it for what it's worth, yesterday I was almost able to do the same but it froze before I got in the login screen. Cheers.
BTW , sorry but I was going to forget to thank Takku for this VERY IMPORTANT info
Another member has made an upgrade between Takku and me , 21624 , 21625 , 21626
JFox , Alliance-Team , and 14DHS members , together we're very strong and we'll succeed
Pierre
Nev
May 2 2008, 01:51 PM
QUOTE (cbconti @ May 2 2008, 03:44 PM)
Thanks for the info. I would try it myself, but I already have 14 upgrades, plus I have already surfed for today. Anyone else want to give it a try and report back to us?
Christina
Yup it works, Just upgraded 25 unit
blessedchild
May 2 2008, 01:55 PM
QUOTE (Takku @ May 2 2008, 10:35 PM)
HEY! I was able to make an upgrade using LR! Here is the proof!
Might just have gotten lucky though.. take it for what it's worth, yesterday I was almost able to do the same but it froze before I got in the login screen. Cheers.
yeah, only works from upgrade page for now
Takku
May 2 2008, 01:56 PM
Let's keep the program going people!
mc13fr
May 2 2008, 02:04 PM
QUOTE (blessedchild @ May 2 2008, 11:55 PM)
yeah, only works from upgrade page for now
You have just edited your post , wise decision , your full LR # appeared
Pierre
iTayb
May 2 2008, 02:16 PM
well... LR's back... why im not get paid?
demalex
May 2 2008, 02:18 PM
Thanks guys for the info, God bless you all. I have just try to upgrade my account and it's working! We can still make new deposits into 14DH even if main server/page is down Thanks God
Takku
May 2 2008, 02:21 PM
You're welcome, just trying to help on my part so we can all benefit on this wonderful program.
cbconti
May 2 2008, 02:21 PM
The reason you have not been paid yet is because it is night-time for JFox. He probably doesn't even know that LR seems to be functioning through the 14DHS site. Please let him have his deserved rest, and hopefully by tomorrow morning things can be back on track with LR payouts.
QUOTE (iTayb @ May 2 2008, 05:16 PM)
well... LR's back... why im not get paid?
blessedchild
May 2 2008, 02:21 PM
ok now, let the 297 people reading earlier today all go and upgrade. Dont forget the contest is still on. With Lr up now i think i would not be needing dinner any more!
mc13fr
May 2 2008, 02:24 PM
QUOTE (iTayb @ May 3 2008, 12:16 AM)
well... LR's back... why im not get paid?
Only new upgrades are possible at this time !
Why does it work ? The answer is very easy , the upgrade process is only using sci.libertyreserve.com
Only libertyreserve.com is down , sci.libertyreserve.com and blog.libertyreserve.com are up
Pierre
demalex
May 2 2008, 02:24 PM
QUOTE (iTayb @ May 2 2008, 02:16 PM)
well... LR's back... why im not get paid?
I think you can just make new upgrades for now because LR is not fully operational yet and J.Fox is not able to make withdrawals.
ankor
May 2 2008, 02:25 PM
Is possible now to make payments with LR?
blessedchild
May 2 2008, 02:31 PM
jackbell, am glad your jinx is not working here! its never gonna work!
cbconti
May 2 2008, 02:32 PM
We have had several reports that some people have successfully upgraded in LR through the 14DHS site. The main site is still not up, but upgrades are getting through.
This is great news. The contest is still going on, so get your upgrades in. Each upgrade is an entry in the contest.
Christina
blessedchild
May 2 2008, 02:32 PM
And Pierre thanks. I know some hacky eyes are around here!
iTayb
May 2 2008, 02:38 PM
well... sci.libertyreserve.com is down for me...
erdnan
May 2 2008, 02:42 PM
I know that we are allowed a maximum of $2500 per upgrade.
But are we allowed to do this 2 or 3 times in one day, as long as we haven't reached the maximum of 14 upgrades??
cbconti
May 2 2008, 02:45 PM
DAILY upgrade limit is $2500. Sorry.
QUOTE (erdnan @ May 2 2008, 05:42 PM)
I know that we are allowed a maximum of $2500 per upgrade.
But are we allowed to do this 2 or 3 times in one day, as long as we haven't reached the maximum of 14 upgrades??
web$
May 2 2008, 02:55 PM
QUOTE (ankor @ May 2 2008, 02:25 PM)
Is possible now to make payments with LR?
yes is possible, I just upgrade my account.
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