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jsully
Midas is NOT getting my info and I am glad that I don't have but pocket change in RM. Goodbye to more lost funds.
joemac278
Not too happy about this sad.gif

I can't get into the forum, when I try it says I have been banned, I've NEVER got in, or posted, so I don't know how I got banned thumbdown.gif
Pipster
QUOTE(joemac278 @ Jun 28 2005, 07:25 AM)
Not too happy about this sad.gif

I can't get into the forum, when I try it says I have been banned, I've NEVER got in, or posted, so I don't know how I got banned thumbdown.gif
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Think the last update indicated some technical problem with the forum.

I have part of profit left in here,i guess that i will give this up,not going to
certify any photo id to a stranger.

joemac278
QUOTE(Pipster @ Jun 28 2005, 04:33 PM)
Think the last update indicated some technical problem with the forum.

I have part of profit left in here,i guess that i will give this up,not going to
certify any photo id to a stranger.
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I've never been able to get in, from day 1, when I joined.

I don't think that this is going to be easy for a lot of people, having to get your Passport/Driving Licence notorised, then having it scanned, so that it can be e-mailed, and, I would guess they wouldn't want it in an attachment.

I know things have changed since 9/11, but, that didn't happen just yesterday.
avm703
Latest Announcement

QUOTE
It may be a good idea to investigate offshore asset protection whilst waiting for us to return the site and add the new software wink.gif

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Hi Everyone

I trust you are all having a relaxing time spent with friends and family wink.gif

While the new site is still under preparation, it may be an opportune time to investigate offshore structures and personal asset protection.

I have negotiated with a certain group to provide our members with a good discount. This offer is only available for a a limited period of time – until end July 2005.

For more information, please click on their link below:

www.embaadvisory.com

Or contact them directly for a free confidential evaluation:

erik@embaadvisory.com or mark@embaadvisory.com

Feel free to visit their site or contact them if you are genuinely interested and have at least $50K plus to protect.

Have an excellent week!

Midas
Ps. please visit the announcement section often and tell your down line members to do the same – thanks!


broker88
Looks like those that have substantial funds in here have no choice but to send in their documents.

I'll play the waiting game. Not sending in notarize documents to someone who will only identify himself as Midas.
teejay
QUOTE(mmgcjm @ Jun 27 2005, 07:17 AM)
Yeah, exactly....WTF! We are expected to send some UNKOWN person all of our personal information.....this a RIDICULOUS request! Plus they make it even more difficult.....we need to have our photo id certiifed....WTF!!!!!!! And then we need to scan everything and e-mail it.....this smells of MASSIVE identity theft on the horizon.....am I being too paranoid??????
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NO you're not!! That was my first thought -- identity theft.

Even if Midas is on the up and up, with the recent rash of thefts of personal info from banks and credit card companies, what assurances can he give that he will keep our info safe from hackers?

When he sends me his certified photo id, I'll send him mine.

TG I only have the $49 in it, which has earned precious little interest I might add!
mandy
QUOTE(Kenny @ Jun 27 2005, 08:03 PM)
Well I ask the people who are in favor of this...

What about the US LAWS? Does "Midas" have the SEC license to be using our funds to do "trades"? If he doesnt then isnt it illegal for us to be involved in this program? So we are suppose to give verification of who we are and where we live and if Interpol or the FBI or BOTH do a JOINT investigation, then what? Handcuffs for those who verified?

I won't even mention the identity theft issue. Sending my personal information to a "man" I dont know or cant contact except by an email address or forum is just stupidity.

I would like to know the US LAWS that say we have to verify. Simple as that. Cause I cannot find ONE LAW that says "When investing in an illegal program you have to send in "Verification documents X,Y &Z" .

If people are dumb enough to blindly just verifiy because the program has been paying.. NVM ....
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I agree 101%. I have been able to withdraw without verifying myself. I think it is just fair that everyone else should be able to do the same.

I have seen the verification ploy too many times from admins who are simply seeking a way to cut down on pay outs. This in NOT cool if your members have already invested and have funds being held to ransom ala PayPal tactics. 4.gif
joemac278
QUOTE(avm703 @ Jun 28 2005, 04:54 PM)
Latest Announcement
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QUOTE
It may be a good idea to investigate offshore asset protection whilst waiting for us to return the site and add the new software

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Everyone

I trust you are all having a relaxing time spent with friends and family

While the new site is still under preparation, it may be an opportune time to investigate offshore structures and personal asset protection.

I have negotiated with a certain group to provide our members with a good discount. This offer is only available for a a limited period of time – until end July 2005.

For more information, please click on their link below:

www.embaadvisory.com

Or contact them directly for a free confidential evaluation:

erik@embaadvisory.com or mark@embaadvisory.com

Feel free to visit their site or contact them if you are genuinely interested and have at least $50K plus to protect.

Have an excellent week!

Midas
Ps. please visit the announcement section often and tell your down line members to do the same – thanks!



What a great idea Lighten.gif

I wonder if they will require a notorised ID, in order that we can set up an "anonymous" offshore account doh.gif
future
sry guys, did not get the update, can someone send me the mail-addy for our datas??
Mckinlie
I have a hard time giving my identity to someone who hides theirs.
makedollars
QUOTE(Mckinlie @ Jun 28 2005, 08:21 PM)
I have a hard time giving my identity to someone who hides theirs.
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That is the #1 thing I have a problem with! annoyed.gif Show me yours and maybe i'll show you mine!!
unclejesse
QUOTE(makedollars @ Jun 28 2005, 09:31 PM)
That is the #1 thing I have a problem with! annoyed.gif  Show me yours and maybe i'll show you mine!!
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Sounds like a cheesy pick up line smile.gif


WTF
QUOTE
Further Info:

The 3 documents that we require:

1. The downloadable document in PDF format has to be
printed out, and completed by hand in clear large
writing; use of a BLACK pen is recommended.

The word document needs to be typed in and then
printed off for signing.

With the site being unavailable we are aware members
cannot list the exact registration date, so please
just list the month or leave blank.

2. The photo ID that you send needs certifying /
notarizing by a commissioner of Oath, solicitor or any
other officer authorized to do so in the country of
your residence.

3. Utility bills - if for some reason you do not have
the utility bills for your residence in your name, you
will have to send in some other proof of residential
address, or be certified and notarized for your
address.

Important:

We can ONLY accept emailed documents. This is not
negotiable under any circumstances - for the following
reasons:

We do not have a mailbox, as our staff are based
Globally, and it would be totally unworkable to handle
over 60,000 manual documents, the verification process
would take months to complete!

We cannot accept Faxes for 2 reasons;

1. The Photos simply do not fax clearly, and are not
acceptable for inspection as required by banking and
regulatory authorities
2. The documents need archiving; paper copies are no
good or workable in our situation.

We appreciate there are thousands of members who do
not have a personal scanner, however scanners and
scanning services are readily accessible (and at
minimal cost) in local Libraries, news stores,
computer centres (internet cafes) etc... These centres
will scan and minimize the size of your scanned copies
for email purposes. Please seek where possible local
help and consult your up line member for assistance
and advice in this regard.

Good luck all

Rick
Kenny
Well I am heading over to the RM forum (if its working)... Either I am gonna get BANNED or turn the tide on MIDAS...


POWER TO THE PEOPLE!

LOL

Kenny
Had to register for the forum.. cant post anywhere until my "IP" is verified..... so I emailed my upline... waiting on a responce... cause apparently my withdrawal confirmation was deleted "Accidently" and my money was placed back in my availible balance.....?

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

After traveling 12 hours today... this surely isnt something I wanted to deal with...

fahlenkamp1
QUOTE(Kenny @ Jun 28 2005, 10:26 PM)
Had to register for the forum.. cant post anywhere until my "IP" is verified..... so I emailed my upline... waiting on a responce... cause apparently my withdrawal confirmation was deleted "Accidently" and my money was placed back in my availible balance.....?

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

After traveling 12 hours today... this surely isnt something I wanted to deal with...
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Guess its not a good time to ask how your day was fear2.gif

Honestly I don't have enough funds in there to be very concerned. Although notarizing documents is no problem for me, it sounds a little too suspicious, people will pay big bucks for authenticated ID's and the scanned documents and drivers liscense are easier to replicate. I just am not comfortable with this.
joemac278
Just tried to register for the forum, since the last time I tried to get in it said I was banned, so I thought, maybe I wasn't registered,


Sorry, but this e-mail address has been banned.
Sorry, but this username has already been taken.


Tried to get in using different username, and, e-mail addy, got logged in, but,

Sorry, but only users granted special access can read topics in this forum.


Guess I'm not wanted furious.gif
daniel_arch
QUOTE(Radmax86 @ Jun 27 2005, 06:19 PM)
Just photoshop your stuff... not like he has systems to verify their authenticity...
ninja.gif
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You mean clearing out certain stuff?? If that was the case, i would have sent my info a long time ago! But the thing which is making me angry, is the fact that you have to certify your documents! Not even INTgold asked us to do this!
IanSane_BC
I find the attempt to verify users an interesting move. Like Intgold they are asking people to go against statements made by governmenet agencies while at the same time blaming the government.

Photocopying any ID or utility bills, the Canadian and US government state the same thing:

Do NOT make copies except for personal backup to be stored in a safe place like a safety deposit box for use in the case of loss, theft or damage so you can easily contact the necessary authorities in such a case.

Copies of ID should not be made for any other purpose to protect the user against ID theft and to protect the government against forgeries. In some cases copying of ID can lead to charges being laid. ID is to be shown, NOT copied.

The utility companies state that all bills should be shredded before leaving your possession and that NO copies should be made except for taxation/government purposes and backup. Backup copies should be kept in a safe place and copies for taxation/government should be sent VIA registered mail or directly turned in to the institution.
teejay
QUOTE(joemac278 @ Jun 29 2005, 09:25 AM)
Just tried to register for the forum, since the last time I tried to get in it said I was banned, so I thought, maybe I wasn't registered,
Sorry, but this e-mail address has been banned.
Sorry, but this username has already been taken.
 


Tried to get in using different username, and, e-mail addy, got logged in, but,

Sorry, but only users granted special access can read topics in this forum.
 


Guess I'm not wanted furious.gif
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I believe you have to send in all that certified stuff to get access.

Perhaps another way of walking away with our money. Let's face it, most savvy members will not do this.

I have requested a refund because I refuse to send a totally anonymous person all MY personal info! I'll let you know if I get anything back. I'm not holding my breath though. diablo.gif
mmgcjm
I wanted to paste IanSane's post over on the RM forum and demand an answer from Midas about it, but I can't post in the forum. If anyone can post over there, PLEASE copy and paste that post and DEMAND an answer.....WHY SHOULD WE SEND PHOTOCOPIES WHEN WE ARE WARNED NOT TO?????
broker88
Actually when it comes to financial matters, they have every right to verify who they are dealing with. Unfortunately, it also means they are violating the very rules they are setting out to enforce. "Do as I say and Not as I do".
IMHO, you are sending your info to a hole in the wall.


QUOTE(IanSane_BC @ Jun 29 2005, 09:37 AM)
I find the attempt to verify users an interesting move. Like Intgold they are asking people to go against statements made by governmenet agencies while at the same time blaming the government.

Photocopying any ID or utility bills, the Canadian and US government state the same thing:

Do NOT make copies except for personal backup to be stored in a safe place like a safety deposit box for use in the case of loss, theft or damage so you can easily contact the necessary authorities in such a case.

Copies of ID should not be made for any other purpose to protect the user against ID theft and to protect the government against forgeries. In some cases copying of ID can lead to charges being laid. ID is to be shown, NOT copied.

The utility companies state that all bills should be shredded before leaving your possession and that NO copies should be made except for taxation/government purposes and backup. Backup copies should be kept in a safe place and copies for taxation/government should be sent VIA registered mail or directly turned in to the institution.
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broker88
QUOTE(Kenny @ Jun 29 2005, 12:26 AM)
Had to register for the forum.. cant post anywhere until my "IP" is verified..... so I emailed my upline... waiting on a responce... cause apparently my withdrawal confirmation was deleted "Accidently" and my money was placed back in my availible balance.....?

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

After traveling 12 hours today... this surely isnt something I wanted to deal with...
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Your withdraw was "accidentally" deleted. rofl4.gif rofl4.gif well.. at least it went back into your available balance. It coulda been worst... like going to the black hole as in IT. Or .. I'm sorry but someone "accidentally" gained access to your sensitive data that we have on file. rofl4.gif
ladygarner
Hi, I haven't been able to get in since I got my new computer....something about security/firewall settings. Was never able to get it resolved. I'm not verified, since I just read about it today in this thread so I guess I can't get in now anyway but I would appreciate any help on the security issue. Not sure if I'll be doing the verifying thingie..... just wondering why NOW?? Also, why certified? Maybe so he knows we haven't stolen an identity and sent it in?..............hmmmmmmm

curious turn of events at RM...........isn't he through taking members soon or has that already happened? I don't get it screwy.gif but sending by email only is risky business. Didn't even know about the hacking till I read this thread today - it's been a while....was letting my little bit of money just sit. biggrin.gif
joemac278
QUOTE(investor2005 @ Jun 29 2005, 04:49 PM)
Your withdraw was "accidentally" deleted.    rofl4.gif  rofl4.gif  well..  at least it went back into your available balance. It coulda been worst...  like going to the black hole as in  IT.  Or ..  I'm sorry but someone "accidentally" gained access to your sensitive data that we have on file.  rofl4.gif
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You don't mean that this could be some kind of censored2.gif "terrorist" ninja.gif activity, to gain funds,

OMG, I've just realised Midas spelt backwards is SADIM, maybe we've not got him after all doh.gif

I
Retain
All
Questionable ID funds
nuk
I wonder why Midas didn't want to verify everyone BEFORE he took their money? Don't want any *dirty* money now! He must have accidently deleted that requirement and noticed it a year later. Or, Mudass will accept terrorists' money, but won't send it to terrorists. Hey, he's got principles post-69220-1110229459.gif

NUK
Kenny
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

mandy
QUOTE(nuk @ Jun 29 2005, 11:07 AM)
I wonder why Midas didn't want to verify everyone BEFORE he took their money? Don't want any *dirty* money now!  He must have accidently deleted that requirement and noticed it a year later. Or, Mudass will accept terrorists' money, but won't send it to terrorists. Hey, he's got principles post-69220-1110229459.gif

NUK
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soapbox.gif The Sept 11 tragedy was an excuse for Government to further invade the right to privacy of their citizens. They needed something like this - also particularly due to the problematic taxation issues that they were facing on the internet... Sad but true.

soapbox.gif Anyway, I have it on good authority that some people were mistakenly paid double their withdrawal by "Mudass" rofl4.gif . If I happened to be one of those people their is no way I would send back those funds, especially since my remaining funds are now being held hostage... shutup.gif thumbup(1).gif
daniel_arch
Some1 said MIDAS is a clown. And looking at his picture on the site (if that is him) and that remark of him being a clown does make me LAUGH OUT LOUD! rofl4.gif
zcash
Is RM paying until now?
Can I join RM?
joemac278
QUOTE(zcash @ Jun 30 2005, 04:42 AM)
Is RM paying until now?
Can I join RM?
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Read back a few pages, then make your mind up,

The site is down, at the moment
Kenny
Well finally got some info here..

Apparently one of my downline reversed a bank wire after Midas announcement. So they didnt pay my w/d. Not let me see... my withdrawal should of been paid last wed at the latest according to my deleted withdrawal confirmation... the announcement came out sunday or monday right.. so midas has ESP and thus didnt pay my withdrawal..

I emailed Rick and still no word back.. this doesnt look good... I would say RM is finished!
nuk
QUOTE(Kenny @ Jun 30 2005, 05:33 AM)
Well finally got some info here..

Apparently one of my downline reversed a bank wire after Midas announcement. So they didnt pay my w/d. Not let me see... my withdrawal should of been paid last wed at the latest according to my deleted withdrawal confirmation... the announcement came out sunday or monday right.. so midas has ESP and thus didnt pay my withdrawal..

I emailed Rick and still no word back.. this doesnt look good... I would say RM is finished!
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Wow, Mudass is a psychic! From *accidently deleted* to Blah Blah Blah. GAME OVER.
NUK
gunjag
Do you really think so?
I mean, I really know a person which had calls with midas and knows much more about him and his work.
She invested more than 200k, and normally she knows what she does.
At the moment, she is on holidays, so i can't talk to her.
Hopefully, it's not the end, but you're right. It doesn't look very well...
broker88
QUOTE(gunjag @ Jun 30 2005, 10:05 AM)
Do you really think so?
I mean, I really know a person which had calls with midas and knows much more about him and his work.
She invested more than 200k, and normally she knows what she does.
At the moment, she is on holidays, so i can't talk to her.
Hopefully, it's not the end, but you're right. It doesn't look very well...
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If shes willing to spend 200K with someone who hides from 99.9% of the membership, then how much is she willing to spend with me. Heck, I'll fly there to meet her to pick up the money. I'll even tell her who my great great grandfather on my mother's side is. I can prove my identity. I'll show her which cheek has a mole. She can even take pictures. tongue.gif

200K ..... geeeeeeez. Even if she signed a non-disclosure agreement and met someone, how can she be sure it is the real Midas. Because the person showed her some ID? You don't even know who Midas real name is to begin with. rofl4.gif
Inspirasi
QUOTE(zcash @ Jun 29 2005, 08:42 PM)
Is RM paying until now?
Can I join RM?
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Wait ohmy.gif

Look before you leap ninja.gif
unclejesse
200k might not be that much to someone who has millions to spend with these games......


broker88
QUOTE(unclejesse @ Jun 30 2005, 11:32 AM)
200k might not be that much to someone who has millions to spend with these games......
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I hear ya Jesse but almost everybody who has the ability/good fortune to accumulate millions has more smarts than to spend 200K on someone who they can't even find. Even if they inherited the money.
shanip
RM still offline

I had my profit still there, i heard many noices about RM....

Is RM a governmental registered company, so why so many procedures now....

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joemac278
IF this is a scam,(and the jury is out on this) why would he tell everybody, a year in advance that it was going private, and, then make it look like it was going to, but, had site problems.

Why not keep it going, and, keep getting $$$ in, and, when the BIG payouts are getting close,(probably a year away, at least)then shut it down?

Just my thoughts,

Joe
unclejesse
I dont think its a scam in the sense that he will run with the money anytime soon.

I just think Midas is very smart and knows he can get a lot more money and keep this going longer by pulling **** like this. All you future admins, take note.


Kenny
QUOTE(unclejesse @ Jun 30 2005, 05:40 PM)
I dont think its a scam in the sense that he will run with the money anytime soon.

I just think Midas is very smart and knows he can get a lot more money and keep this going longer by pulling **** like this.  All you future admins, take note.
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UJ look at this timeline.

6/19 - requested withdrawal

6/20- recieved confirmation of withdrawal (ticket accidently deleted), withdrawal processed within 48 hours

6/22- no withdrawal paid yet, so I submitted another ticket

6/22- told all withdrawals paid by friday 6/24

6/25- no withdrawal paid, so PM'ed Rick on Yahoo

6/27- no answer from Rick on yahoo and announcement of Verification DD crap

6/28 - got reply to ticket stating that my money had been sent back to account all verified withdrawals had been paid. Also replied requesting a reason.

6/28 - emailed Rick about this withdrawal situation and still no answer

6/29 - got a reply to the ticket saying that one of my downlines had reversed a bankwire so the commisions was removed from my account.

So this commisions received in early June and not reversed until the 27th or 28th. Withdrawal should of been processed by the 25th!!! So apparently RM has ESP because THAT WITHDRAWAL should of been paid by "friday" the 24th. No ANNOUNCEMENT of verification/DD till the 27th. So its BS. Simple as that...

I am tempted to move this to SCAM, because according to this time frame this was a scam!


Mckinlie
This sucks I have such high hopes for RM
slb5
I wonder what Rick would have to say if you presented this timeline to him annoyed.gif post-36326-1110185726.gif fear2.gif


QUOTE(Kenny @ Jun 30 2005, 01:56 PM)
UJ look at this timeline.

6/19 - requested withdrawal

6/20- recieved confirmation of withdrawal (ticket accidently deleted), withdrawal processed within 48 hours

6/22- no withdrawal paid yet, so I submitted another ticket

6/22- told all withdrawals paid by friday 6/24

6/25- no withdrawal paid, so PM'ed Rick on Yahoo

6/27- no answer from Rick on yahoo and announcement of Verification DD crap

6/28 - got reply to ticket stating that my money had been sent back to account all verified withdrawals had been paid. Also replied requesting a reason.

6/28 - emailed Rick about this withdrawal situation and still no answer

6/29 - got a reply to the ticket saying that one of my downlines had reversed a bankwire so the commisions was removed from my account.

So this commisions received in early June and not reversed until the 27th or 28th. Withdrawal should of been processed by the 25th!!! So apparently RM has ESP because THAT WITHDRAWAL should of been paid by "friday" the 24th. No ANNOUNCEMENT of verification/DD till the 27th. So its BS. Simple as that...

I am tempted to move this to SCAM, because according to this time frame this was a scam!
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future
QUOTE(Kenny @ Jun 30 2005, 11:56 PM)
UJ look at this timeline.

6/19 - requested withdrawal

6/20- recieved confirmation of withdrawal (ticket accidently deleted), withdrawal processed within 48 hours

6/22- no withdrawal paid yet, so I submitted another ticket

6/22- told all withdrawals paid by friday 6/24

6/25- no withdrawal paid, so PM'ed Rick on Yahoo

6/27- no answer from Rick on yahoo and announcement of Verification DD crap

6/28 - got reply to ticket stating that my money had been sent back to account all verified withdrawals had been paid. Also replied requesting a reason.

6/28 - emailed Rick about this withdrawal situation and still no answer

6/29 - got a reply to the ticket saying that one of my downlines had reversed a bankwire so the commisions was removed from my account.

So this commisions received in early June and not reversed until the 27th or 28th. Withdrawal should of been processed by the 25th!!! So apparently RM has ESP because THAT WITHDRAWAL should of been paid by "friday" the 24th. No ANNOUNCEMENT of verification/DD till the 27th. So its BS. Simple as that...

I am tempted to move this to SCAM, because according to this time frame this was a scam!
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Well said, i had high hopes here, its frustating sad.gif
khalsi
Yeah, it's very frustrating, specially for those who invested GooD Money in RM!!!
unclejesse
I agree that looks very bad on RM's part.

Fortunately (or Unfortunately), I think they will be around for awhile longer.... Midas has too much of our money and too many people know where to find him.




joemac278
QUOTE(unclejesse @ Jul 1 2005, 06:32 PM)
I agree that looks very bad on RM's part. 

Fortunately (or Unfortunately), I think they will be around for awhile longer....  Midas has too much of our money and too many people know where to find him.
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So, in that case he can't hide, from the members?
unclejesse
I doubt it.

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