#12 I have 2 pendings now and reverted to free member status. Does anyone know if free member get paid for their pendings?
No news on my refunds from old PTSPayPro too!
Yes, you will still get paid your pendings, even if you're a free member.
I also just posted this in ASA forum:
This is a quote from an answer Terry gave to a member in the official forum. Hope it sheds some light on what's going on:
David..... I am, more then everyone else here, upset and down right ticked off here on how this has gone. Why in hell is it my fault (as you say "Trusted") that the US economy is going in to a recession? I started a great program after learning the faults of others, and then the stock market goes for a crap on August 8th and all these great Hedge funds start selling every damn stock they own to cover their ass, and it just happens that the few companies that I did buy stocks in, got caught in this too. So, what does this mean, I have to wait for at least a few of these companies to come back up in value, and I will sell them! Then, I'll use those funds that have not made any returns on since August 8th, to generate profit for all, along with what I have working now.
If anyone asks why did I put funds in the stock market (US market as you mention), I told members that I often buy stock of companies that I work with in the wholesale business. As well, I move the funds into my trading platforms while I wait for the wholesale deals to come in, as I need the funds to be making some kind of return. Theres no return at the bank is there now?
The thing is, if this was a Ponzi, I guess I would be closing the doors right about now and saying that the site is out of money right?? Well, sorry, but this is not a Ponzi and the funds are working, and because there is no cashflow into the site right now, members will just have to wait until I make enough to continue payouts. If this takes another week or two, so be it, because if I went ahead and used the funds I have now to payout members, and these funds run out, you all lose!! All I ask is that you and the rest of the members continue to surf or at least visit the site once in awhile, and let me do what I need to do to get this turned around and caught up. I still have a lot of faith in this site, even though all of you have lost yours, but there is not much I can do about that right now.
If this process takes a month or so, then fine, at least you all will get paid and make your returns! Where in the heck would anyone get a return of 200% on their funds in that time frame??
Yes, you will still get paid your pendings, even if you're a free member.
I also just posted this in ASA forum:
This is a quote from an answer Terry gave to a member in the official forum. Hope it sheds some light on what's going on: David..... I am, more then everyone else here, upset and down right ticked off here on how this has gone. Why in hell is it my fault (as you say "Trusted") that the US economy is going in to a recession? I started a great program after learning the faults of others, and then the stock market goes for a crap on August 8th and all these great Hedge funds start selling every damn stock they own to cover their ass, and it just happens that the few companies that I did buy stocks in, got caught in this too. So, what does this mean, I have to wait for at least a few of these companies to come back up in value, and I will sell them! Then, I'll use those funds that have not made any returns on since August 8th, to generate profit for all, along with what I have working now.
If anyone asks why did I put funds in the stock market (US market as you mention), I told members that I often buy stock of companies that I work with in the wholesale business. As well, I move the funds into my trading platforms while I wait for the wholesale deals to come in, as I need the funds to be making some kind of return. Theres no return at the bank is there now?
The thing is, if this was a Ponzi, I guess I would be closing the doors right about now and saying that the site is out of money right?? Well, sorry, but this is not a Ponzi and the funds are working, and because there is no cashflow into the site right now, members will just have to wait until I make enough to continue payouts. If this takes another week or two, so be it, because if I went ahead and used the funds I have now to payout members, and these funds run out, you all lose!! All I ask is that you and the rest of the members continue to surf or at least visit the site once in awhile, and let me do what I need to do to get this turned around and caught up. I still have a lot of faith in this site, even though all of you have lost yours, but there is not much I can do about that right now.
If this process takes a month or so, then fine, at least you all will get paid and make your returns! Where in the heck would anyone get a return of 200% on their funds in that time frame??
Have a Good day.
Thanks Tree for posting this I completely understand how this program works and am willing to wait some more for my pending payments.
Thanks Tree for posting this I completely understand how this program works and am willing to wait some more for my pending payments.
Thineke
Thanks for your understanding, Thineke.
Payouts might have slowed down, but they are still happening. A few people posted in
the official forum, that they got paid this week. Hope there will be many more soon.
blueboy22
Sep 10 2007, 06:27 AM
I will continue to surf 25 sites a day here, because thats what the TOS asked for when I joined. But it should be understandable if I no longer upgrade at this time, after 9-30-07 I'll be a free Member and just wait it out.
davileonardo
Sep 11 2007, 08:05 AM
I don't think wich this program will continue, lot of pending.
I never received one cent from they
Bad program
malles
Sep 11 2007, 12:08 PM
Any update from admin how things going? Tree, have you heard anything new from admin ?
Hi Malles. No unfortunately, I haven't been able to get in touch with Terry lately.
I know he's busy and stressed out, but hopefully he will update us soon. Last I heard he
was waiting for the stocks to rebound so he can cashout and continue paying us, but I
suppose that hasn't happened yet. Some people are still being paid though. They posted
in monitors and the forum, but he has a way to go yet, to catch up on all the pending.
So keep the faith. He's NOT going anywhere. It might take longer than expected to get
paid, but we will be eventually.
Thanks Tree. I have no problem to wait. I understand that it must be a very stressfull situation for Terry now. He seems to be a honest admin, so I´m sure this gone be fine if we just give him some time.
Thanks Tree. I have no problem to wait. I understand that it must be a very stressfull situation for Terry now. He seems to be a honest admin, so I´m sure this gone be fine if we just give him some time.
And some positive attitude
Thineke
blkdude
Sep 19 2007, 05:19 PM
with 1k...I could of put it somewhere where I would be getting $600 monthly...not saying that this continue is over. Just wanted extra income immediately and this wasn't the program to turn to at the moment.
I stopped surfing...will that affect my payouts? I believe that it's operational
syber90
Sep 20 2007, 03:09 AM
I'm a free member now with 2 pendings...the oldest one is from 03 sept
davileonardo
Sep 20 2007, 06:31 AM
I have tree pendings without updates from the admin, i think wich this was a gone
sessi
Sep 20 2007, 06:51 AM
I wouldn't hold your breath here, I am still waiting for a refund from Terry's old programme, from way back in February. Quite fed up with this lot actually.
Risen
Sep 20 2007, 09:54 AM
If all the people that are complaining and predicting this program is gone would goto the PTSNetwork forum and read, you would not be posting so much false information. Yes, it is true that Terry does a piss-poor job of communicating, but be honest, don't most admins. The truth of the matter is that Terry has said on numerous occassions, that the investments he is involved with tanked. For two weeks, the stock market took a total beating. He also said, that as soon as the market rebounds, he would begin to resume payouts. Those of us that watch the market trends, know since the Fed deceased the prime rate, the market is responding. I guess Terry is currently observing the trends to see if it will continue or bust again before making an announcement. So, if you want to just give up and quit, do me a big favor, PM me with your accound info. I would be totally appreciative of the gift.
If all the people that are complaining and predicting this program is gone would goto the PTSNetwork forum and read, you would not be posting so much false information. Yes, it is true that Terry does a piss-poor job of communicating, but be honest, don't most admins. The truth of the matter is that Terry has said on numerous occassions, that the investments he is involved with tanked. For two weeks, the stock market took a total beating. He also said, that as soon as the market rebounds, he would begin to resume payouts. Those of us that watch the market trends, know since the Fed deceased the prime rate, the market is responding. I guess Terry is currently observing the trends to see if it will continue or bust again before making an announcement. So, if you want to just give up and quit, do me a big favor, PM me with your accound info. I would be totally appreciative of the gift.
Thanks!
Lets face the fact even the mods have admitted terry has blown most of the money and has nowhere near enough to even cover a round of payments or refunds
The market was has been on the up and no payouts or updates have come from Terry
Risen are you offering to buy these accounts or do you just want them for free
Bare in mind multiple accounts are against the sites terms and will get all your accounts deleted
Lets face the fact even the mods have admitted terry has blown most of the money and has nowhere near enough to even cover a round of payments or refunds
The market was has been on the up and no payouts or updates have come from Terry
Risen are you offering to buy these accounts or do you just want them for free Bare in mind multiple accounts are against the sites terms and will get all your accounts deleted
Who are you and where did you come from???? Are you even a member of HIS???
For you information, I am the only mod for the PTS Network, and I have NEVER said anything about Terry blowing the money? I don't know where you came up with this, but I can tell you its COMPLETELY wrong!!! Yes, the market has rebounded nicely this week, and he is using this to create income for payouts, but it won't happen overnight.
As to an update, he will update us when he is good and ready.
And re-read Risen's post. I believe you may have misunderstood what he meant.
Who are you and where did you come from???? Are you even a member of HIS???
For you information, I am the only mod for the PTS Network, and I have NEVER said anything about Terry blowing the money? I don't know where you came up with this, but I can tell you its COMPLETELY wrong!!! Yes, the market has rebounded nicely this week, and he is using this to create income for payouts, but it won't happen overnight.
As to an update, he will update us when he is good and ready.
And re-read Risen's post. I believe you may have misunderstood what he meant.
Who are you??? and what do you do for a Living???
Terry even if he cashed out all his Junk assets could not pay a round of refunds or payouts to any of his Junk sites
It is COMPLETELY right !!!! Terry has blown more money than he can afford to repay let alone pay a profit on, and you know it
Are you a member of the real financial world treebratt???????
As to an update you know he is hiding and will only update if he has a miracle to tell
Terry even if he cashed out all his Junk assets could not pay a round of refunds or payouts to any of his Junk sites
It is COMPLETELY right !!!! Terry has blown more money than he can afford to repay let alone pay a profit on, and you know it Are you a member of the real financial world treebratt??????? As to an update you know he is hiding and will only update if he has a miracle to tell
Terry even if he cashed out all his Junk assets could not pay a round of refunds or payouts to any of his Junk sites
It is COMPLETELY right !!!! Terry has blown more money than he can afford to repay let alone pay a profit on, and you know it Are you a member of the real financial world treebratt??????? As to an update you know he is hiding and will only update if he has a miracle to tell
Are you a member of HIS? Whats your member number? You come in here with a new identity and start lies for what reason. No mods are anyone has said anything like that about Terry. Watch this video so maybe you can get some facts straight. http://www.24surfmonitor.com/new/video.php
gwangy
Sep 26 2007, 04:03 PM
Good link Vinman,so your broke site is under Investigation You think closing HIC and moving all the accounts to HIS will fool them?,if you do,you are more foolish than i gave you credit for
BTW,Treebratt,i know because i asked - stay at home moms like you should stay within their depth
Good link Vinman,so your broke site is under Investigation You think closing HIC and moving all the accounts to HIS will fool them?,if you do,you are more foolish than i gave you credit for BTW,Treebratt,i know because i asked - stay at home moms like you should stay within their depth
Our site is not under investigation. But laws have changed and HYIP's are and always have been illegal. We took it down so the we don't run in to the same problem as CEP did. If you remember their problem all started with the HYIP investagtion. Again, we are not under any investigation. You still havent answered my questions.
Don't put down any stay at home moms. That is a hard job, what do you do? You probably wouldn't be such a jerk if your mom stayed home and showed you love and taught you how to be a real person. Tree has more smarts in her little finger than you have all together. I don't see her starting new identities to hide, and cause trouble.
Our site is not under investigation. But laws have changed and HYIP's are and always have been illegal. We took it down so the we don't run in to the same problem as CEP did. If you remember their problem all started with the HYIP investagtion. Again, we are not under any investigation. You still havent answered my questions.
Don't put down any stay at home moms. That is a hard job, what do you do? You probably wouldn't be such a jerk if your mom stayed home and showed you love and taught you how to be a real person. Tree has more smarts in her little finger than you have all together. I don't see her starting new identities to hide, and cause trouble.
Yes it is under investigation ,HIC and now HIS is a hyip the visit once in a while up dates from informed admins like yourself prove that - HIC was a hyip and now so is HIS and you are referring to a site investigated under US law - and you are still broke and unable to fund a round of payouts or refunds
HIC and HIS come under Canadian law along with Terry Kurtis
Yes it is under investigation ,HIC and now HIS is a hyip the visit once in a while up dates from informed admins like yourself prove that - HIC was a hyip and now so is HIS and you are referring to a site investigated under US law - and you are still broke and unable to fund a round of payouts or refunds
HIC and HIS come under Canadian law along with Terry Kurtis You ARE under investigation so do not deny it
HIC was never a HYIP. It was using a HYIP script. With the new laws these programs have to be worded very carefully to avoid being accused of being a HYIP. I am not going to have a childish debate with you. HIS and HIC are not under investigation and never have been PERIOD.
munnymachine
Sep 29 2007, 02:17 PM
Wow. I've just been doing my daily surfing the last couple of weeks without coming here. Not too worried about payments here right now. I figured I'd check in to see if there was any news yet.
Anyways, gwangy, why don't you answer the question. Are you a member here? You should have a little more respect for people here, if you want to be shown any respect. And don't bother answering me with some kind of rant, because you will be ignored.
edit: By the way, please take your lies, and accusations elsewhere if you're not going to back up what you say with proof, or at least some sort of reasonable argument to back up what you say.
monalisa
Sep 30 2007, 05:48 AM
How is the stock marked i USA doing right now?
Is it good - bad or what?
I think my pendings ( I got 13 ) is depending on that.
I think my pendings ( I got 13 ) is depending on that.
Any news at all?
The stock market is better but not all that great. Not all the money is in stocks and there are some other things in the works. We will all get paid but unfortunately I don't have a timeline for us. As I receive any good news I will certainly pass it along.
Good link Vinman,so your broke site is under Investigation You think closing HIC and moving all the accounts to HIS will fool them?,if you do,you are more foolish than i gave you credit for BTW,Treebratt,i know because i asked - stay at home moms like you should stay within their depth
This comment alone speaks volumes about "your" depth!!!
I won't even deign to respond to such nonsense. Grow up!!!
Dorky
Sep 30 2007, 05:21 PM
QUOTE(vinman @ Oct 1 2007, 12:46 AM) [snapback]4412639[/snapback]
The stock market is better but not all that great. Not all the money is in stocks and there are some other things in the works. We will all get paid but unfortunately I don't have a timeline for us. As I receive any good news I will certainly pass it along.
That is good news vinman. Thanks for posting..
I too have been surfing everyday and not been terribly worried about payments. All good things come to those who wait. It is rather annoying that some members or non-members come to forum shooting accusations. In this anoyomus world anybody can say anything they wish... all it does is hurt others. Please be considerate of other members, not everyone has the minimum investment here!!
This program has a members forum, so if you wish to accuse anyone of anything, please got there first to get the facts and while your at it post your facts. I just don't believe half of the rubbish I read these days, mostly heresay anyway.
Just my thoughts...
Dorky
Dorky
Oct 3 2007, 03:33 AM
Just a thought.. think about it....
Remember This Quote Daily Patience is a key element of success. Bill Gates
Dorky
Dorky
Oct 17 2007, 02:37 AM
I see no one has posted here but me!!
I have been surfing everyday, and yes I am a free member now... I am patiently waiting for some news.
I still think of my previous posts quote..
Dorky
treebartt
Oct 17 2007, 08:30 AM
QUOTE(Dorky @ Oct 17 2007, 06:37 AM) [snapback]4436189[/snapback]
I see no one has posted here but me!!
I have been surfing everyday, and yes I am a free member now... I am patiently waiting for some news.
I still think of my previous posts quote..
Dorky
We haven't posted, because we haven't got anything definite yet. I know Terry is working
on something, and he said he will update us as soon as he can. Guess we abide by your
quote (or should I say, Bill's LOL) for now.
loyalsurfer
Oct 17 2007, 11:32 AM
QUOTE(Dorky @ Oct 3 2007, 03:33 AM) [snapback]4416704[/snapback]
Just a thought.. think about it....
Remember This Quote Daily Patience is a key element of success. Bill Gates
Dorky
Good Quote Uncle Dorky,
Sometimes I wonder why Bill was so impatient and dropped out of college to start business. Guess after making his billions he can afford to be extra patient.
Let me add to what Billy Boy said:
Patience is surely an undisputed virtue but patience has its limits and is not until eternity nor is an excuse to take advantage of one's patience.
Fact of Life is that monetary reputation is only a perception which can evaporate instantly when the trusted person abuse that trust, being reckless in business or broke a sacrosanct promise.
Dorky
Oct 17 2007, 09:26 PM
How about this one than...
Courage is the discovery that you may not win, and trying when you know you can lose. ~ Tom Krause.
Dorky
loyalsurfer
Oct 17 2007, 11:13 PM
QUOTE(Dorky @ Oct 17 2007, 09:26 PM) [snapback]4437489[/snapback]
How about this one than...
Courage is the discovery that you may not win, and trying when you know you can lose. ~ Tom Krause. Dorky
Wow, Uncle Dorky, you are definitely a good philosopher!
"A wise man knows when to cut losses and live to fight another day" - Loyalsurfer
blkdude
Oct 18 2007, 06:01 AM
QUOTE(loyalsurfer @ Oct 17 2007, 11:13 PM) [snapback]4437597[/snapback]
Wow, Uncle Dorky, you are definitely a good philosopher! "A wise man knows when to cut losses and live to fight another day" - Loyalsurfer
LOOK IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON AND I CAN'T BELIEVE I ACTALLY WASTED $1K OF THIS PIECE OF "YOU KNOW WHAT!"
Tappin
Oct 18 2007, 12:03 PM
QUOTE(Dorky @ Oct 17 2007, 06:37 AM) [snapback]4436189[/snapback]
I see no one has posted here but me!!
I have been surfing everyday, and yes I am a free member now... I am patiently waiting for some news.
I still think of my previous posts quote..
Dorky
Well you're not totally alone. I just finally finished all my surfing as well. That's all I have to post.
At least for now.
Tappin
treebartt
Oct 18 2007, 07:08 PM
QUOTE(loyalsurfer @ Oct 17 2007, 03:32 PM) [snapback]4436966[/snapback]
Fact of Life is that monetary reputation is only a perception which can evaporate instantly when the trusted person abuse that trust, being reckless in business or broke a sacrosanct promise.
Thanks Loyal, but I still have hope. It maybe a case of better late, than never. LOL
Latest update from Admin at PTS forum in reply to a members enquiry
____________________
Thank you so very much for your understanding and support, it is greatly appreciated for sure. As well for all the other members that have shown their support, I thank you so very much.
Yes, I can tell you that if I had put the funds in Google, Apple, or some of the other big names, I would not be going through these problems thats for sure. As well, the USD has de.valued around the world so much, that it hurt me as well.
I will be coming out with my plans as to what I am going to be doing after this Friday. I have one more meeting tomorrow that will be the last piece in the puzzle, as they say, to getting my plan underway. I wish I could say more now, but I need to make sure that this is really going to work as I have so much riding on it. Actually, it is going to be really exciting as it is something that I have done before, but I am introducing a different way of doing it, that has never been done before in the industry the I am focused on.
Thank you again for your support, and I will keep on as I have a Guarantee to back up. Take care and I will be back shortly.
Terry
Dorky
Oct 18 2007, 07:27 PM
Thanks for the update Tree...
I will keep on surfing and waiting...
Dorky
surf
Oct 19 2007, 10:20 AM
Thanks Tree for the update. I also still have some hope, as many here.. sometimes surfing here..
treebartt
Oct 19 2007, 05:23 PM
QUOTE(Dorky @ Oct 18 2007, 11:27 PM) [snapback]4438907[/snapback]
Thanks for the update Tree...
I will keep on surfing and waiting...
Dorky
QUOTE(surf @ Oct 19 2007, 02:20 PM) [snapback]4439966[/snapback]
Thanks Tree for the update. I also still have some hope, as many here.. sometimes surfing here..
Nice to see you guys are still hanging in there. Terry is on a roll. Here's today's update:
Hi Everyone,
Thank you again so very much for your support, it is much appreciated!
As to my meeting on Thursday, it went very well and once the agreements are signed, it's straight up from here.
As to what this means for members of HighIncome Surf and HighIncome Club, I can finally say that there is a positive plan in place that is not dependent on the Surf business, stock markets, Forex, etc. I am working on the announcements and updates here now. I should have these out to you over the weekend as time permits.
Thank you again and i will be back real soon.
Terry
Dorky
Oct 19 2007, 06:17 PM
QUOTE(treebartt @ Oct 20 2007, 11:23 AM) [snapback]4440389[/snapback]
Nice to see you guys are still hanging in there. Terry is on a roll. Here's today's update:
Hi Everyone,
Thank you again so very much for your support, it is much appreciated!
As to my meeting on Thursday, it went very well and once the agreements are signed, it's straight up from here.
As to what this means for members of HighIncome Surf and HighIncome Club, I can finally say that there is a positive plan in place that is not dependent on the Surf business, stock markets, Forex, etc. I am working on the announcements and updates here now. I should have these out to you over the weekend as time permits.
Thank you again and i will be back real soon.
Terry
Thanks again Tree for the latest update..
Certainly lifts my spirits a bit.
Dorky
davileonardo
Oct 21 2007, 06:54 AM
Only newbiews really belive wich this not is scam, not received one cent here never
skydiving
Oct 21 2007, 07:08 AM
QUOTE(davileonardo @ Oct 21 2007, 06:54 AM) [snapback]4442664[/snapback]
Only newbiews really belive wich this not is scam, not received one cent here never
I have not received one cent either. But hoping is better than no hope at all.
Topaz22
Oct 22 2007, 11:45 AM
All mine are pending now. Looking forward to further announcements.
Thanks.
FreeTime
Oct 23 2007, 09:19 AM
QUOTE(loyalsurfer @ Oct 18 2007, 12:13 AM) [snapback]4437597[/snapback]
Wow
I see loyal surfer is still on the same kind of avatars
loyalsurfer
Oct 23 2007, 12:47 PM
QUOTE(FreeTime @ Oct 23 2007, 09:19 AM) [snapback]4446642[/snapback]
I see loyal surfer is still on the same kind of avatars
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