I've been looking at "the cash gifting expert" website and I must say, after listening to his Qbox, Q is quite genius. Has anyone got any experience or any advise good or bad about it..I'm so done with surf sites...any info would be appreciated..

I have never personally participated in a cash gifting program & the reason is that someone has to lose in order for you to gain...........and I am usually the loser........

I would suggest finding a program that is free to join or that at least has a product that is helpful or useful to you............

You have cash gifting mixed up with hyip's. The one Im talkin about anyway

Aww poor you! I would actually stay away from all this...I would rathaer do something like go and join Amway!!LOL

I can say that too! Cash gifting is great! I too am making money at it. "it's the pay it forward principle". when you give you shall receive many many folds. You've heard that phrase before, right?
bogser

Show me the proof please.

Hi Thor

WOW $2,000 thats awesome the problem for me is that will not
work in Australia the Postal service Scans Letters and if shows
Cash in them they take it and will never receive that money

Thor why not mention to your group about starting introducing
PayPal or even Western Union both very popular.

I would be interested if going that way if you have mentors
that actually assist and support you to make the kind of money
you are talking about.

Have you started a thread here if not you should might go
very well for you do I get a finders fee for the suggestions?


Grant Wilson

There's no denying after listening to his 25 FREE audios that this guy
cuts through the BS and gets straight to the point with no apologies.

I havent joined but i have to say his audio's are gold and well worth listening to.
http://www.extremelyfastcash.com/Audio%20Blog.html

NO I have never participated in a cash gifting program. Are they legal in the United States?

After a lot of research on cash gifting I am thinking of joining the ez1up program. The website is www.yourfatpockets.com .

A guy named demetrios tzortzis called me back he has been very helpful in answering my questions. I was hesitant at first but he has a solid plan for everyone who joins with him....Im still doing my research, but I will probably go with him if I do decide to do this "cash gifting".

I hope this helps.

J

I think somone asked for proof a few posts back. There is proof below that it works, and if you have support, and a plan that's solid, you can change your life.

jasonk, you *may* want to look at this first.

I have participated in cash gifting and although there are many variations... all trying to sound different and legal.. they all amount to a Ponzi scheme and if you just work out the MATH you will see that they just will not work. A few people at the top get all the money and it really peters out the longer it lasts. It is quite a fascinating study, to actually do the math.

I used to have a set of links to send friends that explained it. I still have this one, a news story about someone getting arrested: http://www.istianitytoday.com/ct/2000/n...er13/15.23.html

Whatever the package.. you are much better off either selling a real product/service or learning how to do real investing of some sort.

Best wishes!

My response to you is simply listen to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkZm_BqPk0k



Here are my unbiased research results http://toptiermoney.wordpress.com/cash-gifting-review/

Like the movie? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q13BGMuscT4



PayPal are crooks they just closed peoples accounts down almost at random it appears.

Western Union leaves a paper trail a mile wide.

Fedex appears not to do what Australia posts does.

So it appears Fedex or UPS are the two options.

I'm definitely not looking for an argument here but anyone that says that cash gifting is a ponzi scheme either doesn't know what a ponzi scheme is, or doesn't know what cash gifting is.

Cash gifting is the answer to so many peoples problems, but most don't know it yet. Absolutely everyone has the same opportunity as the person before him and to say they don't is quite simply not true. There is no saturation point, there are millions of new people each year looking to get out of what they are doing, and this will never stop, it can't.

Remember one thing, it is not the program or activity that fails, it is the person himself/herself that does not get done what needs to be done. If you learn from the right person, and have a solid plan in place, you will do just fine.

Cash gifting eliminates a very large problem for people that want to eliminate debt, buy a new vehicle, etc. They don't have to sell anything.

I know quite a few making money on cash gifting. Issue is, you have to have the cash to gift it. LOL

I agree with you

i totally agree with you . i started a cash gifting program . and they work . this is not the only one i'm going to join. i want to join many more in time . check it out [edit]NO LINKS[/edit]

leacin2006,

I was a part of that program a long while back. They are still going strong I see, that's good stuff.

If you were looking for another to join, this one I am doing has a little higher level in it and the way we do it is long time tested, and working very well. I don't know if you do it the same way, but you may want to check my site out and have a look.

I'm only saying this because you mentioned expanding.

I just wanted to say one more thing on behalf of all of us that are in a cash gifting program. "There is a glaring difference between this activity, and other high pressure programs"

We *share* and idea, that's it. You either accept it, or you don't.

That is the statement that should stick in your mind.

You get the info and you may even listen to a recorded call or watch a video, but then you are only contacted if you want to be contacted. After you are given the info, we are finished if you don't want to go any further.

We don't pressure, we don't have to ask, we don't have to sell, we don't do anything but lay out the details and you, the interested person either want to participate, or you don't. It's really that simple.

If you've been looking for a way to generate a bit of extra cash, or looking to generate a lot of cash, this could be the vehicle you should get into. Some people go on one hell of a ride, and other people go on a bit of a slower ride, but the fact still remains you are *moving* in the right direction. As I have said before, if you listen to anyone that isn't at least where you want be in terms of success, you are listening to the wrong person. You should only listen to people that have already been where you want to go, otherwise how is the person that hasn't been there going to tell you which turn to take, which curves to avoid?

Do yourself a favor, get the info, and then decide.

I can't believe how many views this topic has, just check it out, over 1900 views. Lots of interest here for a great cash generator.

This is changing lives people, are you just going to watch and say, "I should have got involved" orrrrr, are you going to be one of the ones that's steps up and does something for change. Will you make it happen, or will you just read and watch?

Have you ever seen a good plan that works over and over? well we have one, but you must get the info to find out what that plan is. You'll be happy you did.

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Hey Everyone,

I have been on this forum for a few years and still come here often, I've been looking into cash gifting now for about 3 weeks it is very exciting to see people opening up envelopes full of money, there's just to many people doing it for me to believe it is fake, now I am not in cash gifting so I'm not here to promote, but I am taking a serious look into it as a matter a fact I just did a video a few weeks ago and uploaded it to youtube and it was about the things that seem to be lacking in some of the videos on youtube, I would place the link here but we can't do that so if you want to just check out the video see what I have to say, go to youtube at the top where the search area is type in choppa67 or try typing in cash gifting and I will be right on the front page, the thumb nail you will see is a hot chick with a blue bikini on next to the thumb nail you will see my user name on youtube choppa67 that's my video and that is me, so check that out and look at some of the other video's about cash gifting and let me know what you think leave me a comment or send me mail right there on youtube, I may get into cash gifting and I may not, but I want people to see this video and tell me what you think, I have spoke with several of the people in these video's by cell phone and they are all doing very well, so if I get in I will let people know what I am discovering about it so please check back to my page on youtube and you can watch my updates to see how things are going, good or bad, I will also report back here to, by the way someone mentioned speaking with Demitroius, not sure that's how you spell his name but I did speak with him as well, checked out his my space page and he does seem to get around the world from just speaking with him and seeing his pictures on myspace, and also I have been in contact with Campbell the guy who has the blog called Top Tier Marketing someone mentioned him in an earlier post as well, he's thinking of doing this to, go do your research on this it could very well be a good thing.

Chopper

Chopper, I watched your video and thought I'd respond.

I get what your saying but I must ask you this. I will use my site because, well, why shouldn't I. Have you ever looked at a site like mine and filled in the form so whoever owns the website can contact you?

There's two answers to that. You either did and whoever called you back didn't tell you what you really *need* to know (in other words he/she wouldn't have been good to work with anyway), orrrr, you never have so you haven't given anyone the opportunity to show you (tell you) first hand.

A video is nice, but it is not necessary to get the info you need. Do we have a plan, you bet we do. Will we share it with you if you are *truely* interested in joining our gifting program, you better believe we will. It is laid out for you in step by step form so anyone can follow and succeed if they really want to. You don't need a video to show you how to do that.

My 2 cents on that subject.

You're absolutely right reponzo01, there are no 100% free rides, ever, anywhere.

However this is as close as one can get. All anyone has to do to find out how it's done is ask, just simply ask and you will be given the details for free, and there will be no pressure for you to do anything after that. If you see the big picture, good stuff, if you don't, then it's maybe not your cup of tea. Simple as that.

This is duplicatable, just follow a leader.

Hi Mega, The you tube movie is private and I can't view it unless invited. And the blog has been suspended for violations of TOS. I tried!

But I do wonder about these new breed of 1-up gifting programs.

The one with Q, I saw a review on that that said everyone uses his site and has to trust that their referrals will but in their sponsor's code! No automatic tracking! And that you have to give every 5th gift to Q. That seems a bit much and negates the gifting concept.

TOCS looks interesting.. yet there is another system.. that seems like everyone puts up their own webpage for it, yet some of the pages are very similar. I can't figure out the name of it. The only common thing I have seen is "The World's #1 Cash Generating System". The sites are more warm and fuzzy and personal. But TOCS has leaders who answer calls.

The gifting concept is neat. It seems that the receiver would be wanting to help their givers get a receiving position also. I am not sure all the ponzi claims would hold up for the 1-up systems.

I am not at all familiar with these forums and have just tonight started searching them for information as I too have recently joined a cash gifting activity. The discussion I saw here prompted me to become a member so that I may inquire as well about cash gifting. I believe that cash gifting is everything it is cracked up to be and then some. However I also see that there is a lot of confusion out there about just what cash gifting is all about. And some of that confusion is on my part as well.

I understand the concept as a whole, people helping people to see a better way for themselves through the giving and receiving of cash. How can it not work. I'll tell you how. When some people get greedy and forget about the helping part. That's how. I had understood when I joined that my invitor would be there to help me build my activity, that I would be coping him to a T to produce the results I wanted. Well in reality, not only has my invitor not showen me what I needed, but when I have contacted a number of other activity associates, I get the same "corporate shut down" "If I show you what to do, I will be cutting my own throat". Some how this seems to me to under mine the very core of what cash gifting is marketed to be all about.

I have been told to get my leads and call, call, call. Currently I have placed an average of 300 calls a day for the last 2 months. I have been told to market on line with free classifieds and email blasts. All told I generate at minimum about 2.75 millions hits a day. and not one of them will go through my contact page on my landing page. So here I am out on the internet researching for just what it is that all these people who are opening all these fedex packages are doing. Because there has to be some trick to it. I am not going to give up, I do believe in this activity. Maybe a little too much, I thought if I threw myself into it heart and sole, and worked it 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, that by the end of 6 months, I would be able to slow down a bit. Since the first of Nov I only have 3 people enrolled. This is not how it is susposed to work. This is not how it works for others.

I had thought I had done my due diligence before getting involved, and I did. However now that I am here, I have learned so much more. Yes there are a number of programs out there. Yes I did see the one with "Q" which presented so many red flags, that I ran the other way. When I found the program I became involved with, I had learned prior to enrollment that it had had several name changes along it's path of maturity. Or that is what I thought since there is no one who will talk to you really. Now I am coming to learn that it was not simply name changes, but rather a group split. One part staying and changing their name and the other part going off and developing a new name. This may have happened a couple of times. Because now what is going on is there are several activities out there using the same information, phone calls, web sites and phone numbers yet all claiming to be private and not related to the other. I am confused. I am not critizing how each activity came into being, that is not my issue. Although I don't agree in principle how some of them are using the same resouces and claiming them to be theirs. Even to the point that a couple of them share the exact web page and access password. My point is that there are a lot of cash gifting activities out there and they require some thorough research before getting involved with. I just found another one today, that until I contacted them, I was convinced that they were the same activity that I was invovled with. He said that he gets that a lot. There appears to be some fundimential differences between the various activities. Diffferences you are not able to identify completely until you become enrolled. Then it is too late your money is tied up and you can't jump the fence unless you want to cough up again.

I have already decided that I will be doing just that, when and if I can ever get to the point of making this activity produce in order to afford to shift over. I have found that one of these programs actually does have members who are willing to help their team members and even non members and the program as a whole does not restrict or limit their members in ways that some of the other programs do. Meanwhile, I am still out there looking for the secret all the fedex receipants know. Any one have any ideas, I am all ears.

livegr8, I'm sorry but I can't PM you as I don't have enough posts to do that, I don't post on here much. Please email me at bigtimesuccess@yahoo.com if you want more info.

ssgma, I can tell you one thing, your invitor doesn't know what he/she is doing if they are telling you to call people. That's not how it's done at all. I'm not saying you don't talk to people, but that sure isn't the first step. The way we do it is people call/email us because they are interested.

You can't buy a bunch of leads that aren't worth 2 cents and start calling them. 95% of those bought leads are people that are simply kicking tires and by the time you call them they are back in their shell, hiding, scared to death of having to actually talk to someone, or get out of their comfort zone. Until those people wake up one day, their situation will never change. These are the leads you are buying, they are not ready yet.

Remember this. People want change, but 95% - 98% of the people that want change are simply to scared to take the steps that will make that change happen. For some the day comes where they say "that's enough, I have got to do something", then they move forward, but most are to scared, and will grind it out the hard way till they drop.

The way we promote our programs weeds out the tire kickers. We leave it up to them to decide, so you are not talking to people that have no interest.

I don't know what program you are involved with, but maybe you should find someone that will give you step by step instructions.

KKC, I am happy with my cash gifting program. As I am sure you are because we share the same web page. I don't under stand your comment about no phone calling. Since my group alway referrs to getting your leads and making your phone calls. How can we be the same.? My delema is in the fact I am having learn or train myself how to do this with out much support. Thank you for the invitation, but unless your are willing to show me how it is done with out phone calls, I will just keep plugging along. I hate to keep getting on here and sounding so negative because I am not. I am still working hard at trying to figure out how come my site is not getting any hits and my invitor has videos of thousands. Believe me I will prevail. Mygift to you

Ok, you said that you were told (by your inviter) to get your leads and call, call, call. Where are you getting these leads?

Secondly, that's not how you should be doing it. That's about the worst way to do this, you have to have a system in place where the people that are interested come to you.

I totally agree with U

You still need money to make money.....

I've done a few of these in the past... G1G4 and some others.... these aren't really a ponzi but then again they aren't legal either... funds from new "gifters" to pay old gifters" so it's not really making money from the sell of a product or service.... These have been around forever and my advice would be this:

Play them as a game, don't quit a job or something stupid like that. Look to make some extra money. Don't BS people like half of these post. It's legal cause its gifting is just BS. I've recruited people into these and told them it was a game type thing...

I wouldn't join one that's been around a while and most people have heard of. Cause even if 100 people got paid, it's that one person who got "screwed" that screams the loudest and as we all know bad news travels faster then good news. Which in games/life is a shame.

Just remember this if anyone is looking to make extra money online or even make a living. You get out of something what you put into it. Most people here look for the "easy" way out. That's why most fail. If you really want to earn something. Build a website/blog, join a true longterm MLM and build it, or learn a trade that will get you part time jobs online. No real secret to these HYIP's/AS's etc. Sure the markets different now then in 2004, but the game is still the same, just less investors, more scammers, and less money to be made. If you choose to invest in some program, my advice is this: Get your seed money out and play with profit. How many people have heard the story...

I was in XYZ-Ponzi... started off with a $100 investment via egold. They paid me 200% in 7 days! I rolled it all back in... 8 days later im at $400... so considering a thousand junk post on every forum I can find said it's still paying.. I rolled it again.. 10 days later im at $800!!!!! All this off of my $100... So after reading some more and checking every monitor I can find.. I put the $800 back in! 15 days later I got $1600 in my back office! So I requested a $500 withdrawal and put the rest back. Meaning in 20 days I will have $2200!!!!

So now its been 10 days, nothing but excuses from admin as to why I haven't gotten paid. DDOS, script problems, exchanges whatever the excuse.. I am hopeful! So many people got paid, my turn soon!!!! 10 days later... I get paid $2200 to my back office.. I need this money so I request it all... blah blah blah... Welcome to Virtual money...

The reason I posted all this is because MMG is going to lead the charge and take our members in a new direction. We want people to come to MMG to learn to make money online. We want to teach you to EARN it. Not to invest and spin the wheel. To earn it and build residual income! This is all part of the 2008 MMG MakeOver. So stay tuned! We got great things in store for MMG. We want a noob to the internet to come here. With barely knowing how to turn on a computer and be able to one day say, I am making money online because of MMG! And have him invite his friends/family etc..etc. Make this place the community it once was.

ok enough of my rant..

Yoda

Disclaimer: This above post is mine and only mine. This doesn't reflect MMG, MMG Staff, sponsors, partners, advertisers etc..etc

Cash Gifting is like anything else, it works outstandingly well if you know the right way to do it.

KKC thank you for the helpful information. I have checked out your web page. Would you mind if I called you.

Your welcome, yes you can call me.

I would like to call you too

Kobe24, you can call me aslo, in fact anyone that is interested in generating cash "an easier way" is very welcome to call me.

KKC are you on Skype? if so let me know my first post so dont think I have too many posting priviliges as yet nor PM not sure just landed here.

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So does robbing banks, knocking over old ladies, embezzlement, etc.

Let's get real about what "cash gifting" is: a very old variation on chain letter scams that had its heyday on the net in the late-1990's after egold was formed and now is making something of a "comeback" in the form os 1UP, 2UP, etc. It is in fact a ponzi scheme variation also. Despite some of the total BS you'll read in this thread, cash gifting is NOT legal in any form, no different than chain letters only it's the FTC and/or SEC that busts you instead of the US Postmaster.

It's a money "game" that relies on new suckers and noobs to pay in order for the earlier gifters to receive their "gifts." Unlike charitable giving where you make donations without any expectation of making a profit, the typical gifting scheme involves people making "gifts" for the sole reason of the expectation of making a profit. If that sounds like what the SEC calls an "investment" it's because it is. Don't worry, the FTC usually goes after gifting/chain schemes and is a lot less harsh than the SEC.

I'm sure if you lie enough to people, offer some POS "product" and claim that it was featured on "Oprah" and other garbage, you can convince some that it's "real" and not a scam, but at the end of the day it's the same as a HYIP or autosurf, just a variation on the same basic "new investors/gamers/playas pay off the old." What some would call a "game" and others would call "fraud" depending on how you are promoting it to others.

NUK

Mudpiggy, you can just email me first.

bigtimesuccess@yahoo.com

How then can you explain people like "Q" being around for 9 years and still going strong, as well as other programs like Elite Resurrected, which is also 9 years old. Certainly by now, if this was illegal, it would be stopped in 9 years.

First of all, I want to say *good job* to all the people that have contacted me and are at the point in their lives that they want to make a change. Good for you all.

Secondly,

PianoLady, I know how you feel, but it is not worth it to even try. I learned a long time ago that they will always be there and are not capable of anything other then what they are presently doing.

Don't bother, don't give them your valuble time

I'm sorry, what you said is confusing to me, I just looked at your site, it looks just like about 5 others I have run across, so I know what it says. Could you explain what you meant though, are you saying that Elite Resurrected doesn't work, or Q doesn't work? and only yours does? I'm not saying yours doesn't , and I have seriously looked at your program, kind of, it was someone elses site, but I don't have enough money to start right now, though I am working very hard to get some money together. The reason I took a chance with Elite Resurrected, which hopefully will eventually get me something, was so I'd have something to work with to get into a better, higher paying program, like yours. I have watched all those videos, and if I had $500 I would join today, but I don't have it yet because if I scraped together enough from what I have, and anything went wrong, I would literally live off oatmeal for 10 weeks, with very little else to eat, and I can't take that kind of chance. Do you have any advise for me? since you know the system, how much of a guarantee can you actually give me that when I get enough together to take this step that it will be successful? I do have parents to answer to, I'm 19 and in college, so I need to not take insane chances here.

PianoLady, no I wasn't talking about either of them. I was talking about the quote and the person that wrote it. It doesn't matter, I was on your side

Moving forward.

I don't know anything about Elite Resurrected so I can not comment on that.

Yes, Q has been around longer then I have been online which is quite a while. The one thing I don't like about his program is there is one site, His, and everyone is sent to that site. You have to trust that the person you send there will enter your ID so you get credit for it, if not, you know where the gift goes. At least this is what I learned not to long ago, so if my source wasn't correct, I apologize.

PianoLady, I would say if you are not comfortable doing this because it might make home life stressed, then don't do it until you are comfortable.

About Programs. To everyone.

Many programs work (not just mine), it's the people that forget to do their part.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The old saying, "if you build it they will come" is as true as "if you work it, you will prosper" Pick a program, do some research, pick a good mentor that will work with you and you too will see results. It really is as simple as that.

I have been where many people are today. They want to generate cash from their online efforts but nothing seems to work. They pick a program, put money forward to get started, give it a half hearted attempt, go watch TV and forget about what they are really supposed to be doing. They slump back into the same routine as before they started, and before they know it, 5 months have gone by and one day they say "it didn't work"

If people are truely at a time where they want change, they have to commit, or don't even bother. On the other hand if they are willing to put in what they want out, online programs can be a great thing, if not, go watch TV, but don't ever expect change. It will never come.

Has anyone tried Biblical Seven?
I've been looking at them for a while, they had a rough start.

Freedom Corps Friends recently went under after a very brief presence.

With all due respect Mike, if you are seriously looking for a program, why not go with one that has been around for a long time and is running smoothly, or has Biblical Seven been here for a while?

Ok, go ahead and spew your garbage about gifting not working. But i can gaurantee you this, i make more in a week than you do in a one month period!! Its people like you that stay in the same fix all the time. While your driving your POS chevy, I"m riding in my new ford F250 4WD , see ya!!!!

I have not joined ecosov800 but have heard first hand from people who have and unless you have money to burn do not trust this marketing genius because that is all he is. He was first to take cashgifting to another level and he talks a good game but keep searching and you will see forums with his past members results. He will straight steel your sign ups!

Hi,

Yeah, it was a bummer. I was so into his program, that I
really wanted to make this work.

I promoted and promoted, and everyone I came in
contact with found it way too expensive. As a matter of
fact (I had a lady from Canada enroll, and she never even got
her referral id number). You can even contact her to confirm.
Her name is Doris De Grood, and her email is muffins@shaw.ca

And on top of that, when she gave him my id number, for some odd
reason, I didn't get the credit for it. He told her that when she signed up
for the newsletter, that her records showed that another persons id
number was attach to her IP address (if you dont know what the IP
address is, it's the unique number from your pc).

So basically made sale which I should've gotten went to someone else.
Probably one of his buddies or something.

We emailed Q's various times to get an answer, and till this day, no call back
or email replied to both of us.

If you're still looking for a cash-gifting opportunity that works, go to

Tell Dean Galloway that Jay Ortega sent you. You'll be able to contact
Dean anytime you need any assistance.

This program is WAY better. Go to the site and see for yourself.

There's even a 500 tier 1 level, which is great for those who
want to start small before they upgrade to higher levels. Tier 5 is
the highest being 10 grand.

So I hope this helps.

Sorry about the return calls. I'm actually out of town, and will return all
messages when I get back. So apologies.

Let me know if you need any help, or if you have any questions.

Jay Ortega
Marketing Director
Red Fox Marketing

That's what I heard not long ago as well about Q and his operation. Not good at all.

That's why it's better to stick with a program where you get your own personal site and get what's supposed to be yours. You need a tracking system like we have to keep everything straight.

If there is anyone that is "at the point" where they want to make things happen, go to my site, have a look around, then call me or leave your info and I can call you. This can make a dramatic difference in your life.

i heard a few things about "Q" also (good and bad) but i don't know him personally so i can't say anything about him, but what i can say is Cash Gifting is great and it changes people's lives (average people) like you and me who are hungry for a better way, although cash gifting is not for everybody, i do believe it can definetely change a person's life almost overnight. I mean an extra $10,000/month to the average 9 to 5ers could mean the WORLD, i know it would to me, and that's what CASH GIFTING can do for you if you have the RESOURCES available to market successfully. IF anybody is looking to get into cash gifting, then you should give me a call, A MENTOR is vital to your success, i will show you the resources that i'm using to achieve success.

ydris "The Cash Gifting Motivator"

Keep doing what you doing KKC, you doing a great job

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