http://www.imperiainvest.net/memberarea/?ref=mihailo79


SIMPLIFIED CALCULATION

TEP Police:
100%

TEP nominal amount
+ 320.000,00 US-Dollar


Capital / Loan value / Bank loan:
60%

TEP value
+ 192.000,00 US-Dollar


Capital split (60%):

Bank fees / processing fees - 1.400,00 US-Dollar

Trustee fees / processing fees - 3.000,00 US-Dollar

Reinvesting TEP - 90.000,00 US-Dollar

Referral bonus 8 level deep - 17.600,00 US-Dollar

Entire costs - 112.000,00 US-Dollar


Capital / Trade Preparation:

Forex / Arbitrage Capital + 80.000,00 US-Dollar

Profit Target after 6 months* ** ca. + 335.000,00 US-Dollar

* Profit Target: 1,2% daily payouts with 100% compounding option
** Profit Target may vary/differ +/- 5%
Daily Profits per banking days will be credited to your account


Payout:

Profit Target after 6 months approx. ca. + 335.000,00 US-Dollar

Payout / 30% shares IMPERIA Invest IBC - 100.500,00 US-Dollar

Payout / 30% shares Investmenthouse / Broker - 100.500,00 US-Dollar

Payout / 40% shares Investor/TEP member - 134.000,00 US-Dollar



After completion of all 10,000 TEP policies you will receive your guaranteed share of 40% (134,000.00 US-Dollar NET PROFIT) Profit Target after 6 months 335,000.00 US-Dollar.

Please consider that the Profit Target could differ +/- 5%

Please note: The age limit is 59, BUT if you’re older, then you can still refer, and after all, that’s where the real money is.

Is this for real or just another scam?

they have logo on site its from lloys and barclays bank....

OMG.....give me a break what a joke.....looks like the same con artists from ICC, HCI....etc....are trying to get more money out of the gullible.

Hi Everyone,

There's a conference call regarding these RPP's. On the last call, the host was mentioning that he was going to do some DD on this program as well as WPP. He's in Utah and He won't be back till the following Tuesday (6-19). I don't know if this is a scam or not but I'll post my findings from the conference call.

Zeus

Zeus, I have e-mailed you 3 times using your gmail address for you to send me the conference call number. AND I HAVEN'T RECEIVED A REPLY YET!

Sorry Littledoll,

I don't know your e-mail address off hand so I'm going to PM you the info.

Zeus

The logo is definately NOT from Lloyds (my bank) or Barclays which I know very well. It is their own logo nothing to do with these banks, I would strongly advise against repeating this misinformation to any of your prospects, as it could bring unwellcome attention to the program.

That said, I think it is an interesting program certainly worth exploring further.

I have done a little research on this one because I saw someone on another board inviting folks to join.

I think I'll sit back and watch this one................ JMHO

The numbers are not adding up if you do the math, the hosting and domain name are both on services known for serving the less than desireable type things anyone wants to admit getting involved.

They detail the returns on the investment, but they don't explain the source for the $80K which is the key number used as the basis for the 1.2% used in the calculations of returns that follow (not your $50). Since it just kind of magically appears, it seems like an obvious question.

Particularly as an entity whose primary business is investing, why would they put their own money (either directly or through some loan) at risk in exchange for a relatively trivial amount invested by TEPs and then give away the returns generated?

And we're not talking about insignificant amounts here from either investment or return perspectives. Using their own assumptions:

$50 x 10,000 TEPs = $500,000 total received
$80,000 x 10,000 TEPs = $800,000,000 total "loaned"
$800,000,000 - $500,000 = $799,5000,000 their net at risk.


Anonymous domain registered through Katz;

Hosted on a sketchy host that has routinely rented servers to other similar "programs" in the past that have scammed and spammers for shady opportunities;

No real contact info or details on the organization.

Pinging this website provided an IP of 202.157.181.251

This is the WhoIs information on the IP Address

inetnum: 202.157.181.64 - 202.157.181.255
netname: WEBVISIONS-COLO-HK
country: HK
descr: Webvisions (Hong Kong) Ltd
descr: A Subsidiary of Webvisions Pte Ltd (Singapore)
descr: Hong Kong
descr: Co-location and Dedicated Servers
descr: Please send abuse requests to abuse@webvisions.com
admin-c: IP6-AP
tech-c: MH352-AP
status: ASSIGNED NON-PORTABLE
changed: indra@webvisions.com 20041027
mnt-by: MAINT-SG-WEBVISIONS
source: APNIC

person: Indra Pramana
address: Webvisions Pte Ltd
address: 75 Science Park Drive
address: #02-06/08 Cintech II
address: Singapore Science Park I
address: Singapore 118255
country: SG
phone: +65-6773-9492
fax-no: +65-6773-9389
e-mail: indra@webvisions.com
nic-hdl: IP6-AP
mnt-by: MAINT-SG-WEBVISIONS
changed: indra@webvisions.com 20020719
source: APNIC

person: Mohamad Zulkifli Hanafi
nic-hdl: MH352-AP
e-mail: zulkifli@webvisions.com
address: 75 Science Park Drive
address: #02-06/08 Cintech II
address: Singapore Science Park I
address: Singapore 118255
phone: +65-6773-9550
fax-no: +65-6773-9389
country: SG
changed: indra@webvisions.com 20030303
mnt-by: MAINT-SG-WEBVISIONS
source: APNIC

This is the WhoIs information I pulled for the domain name.

DNS:
ns1.hongkong-servers.com
ns2.hongkong-servers.com

Created: 2007-04-27 01:04:03
Expires: 2008-04-27
Last Modified: 2007-04-27 08:03:03

Registrant Contact:
Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Privacy Protected Domain Name Domain Proxy Center (domaintrust@katzglobal.com)
32 Maxwell Road #03-07 c/o imperiainvest.net
SC, Singapore, sg 069115
P: +65.67228356 F: +65.67258021

Administrative Contact:
Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Privacy Protected Domain Name Domain Proxy Center (domaintrust@katzglobal.com)
32 Maxwell Road #03-07 c/o imperiainvest.net
SC, Singapore, sg 069115
P: +65.67228356 F: +65.67258021

Technical Contact:
Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Privacy Protected Domain Name Domain Proxy Center (domaintrust@katzglobal.com)
32 Maxwell Road #03-07 c/o imperiainvest.net
SC, Singapore, sg 069115
P: +65.67228356 F: +65.67258021

Billing Contact:
Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Privacy Protected Domain Name Domain Proxy Center (domaintrust@katzglobal.com)
32 Maxwell Road #03-07 c/o imperiainvest.net
SC, Singapore, sg 069115
P: +65.67228356 F: +65.67258021

The DNS Search
;; Answer received from 216.145.1.3 (139 bytes)

;; QUESTION SECTION (1 record)
;; imperiainvest.net. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION (1 record)
imperiainvest.net. 14281 IN A 202.157.181.251

;; AUTHORITY SECTION (2 records)
imperiainvest.net. 14281 IN NS ns1.hongkong-servers.com.
imperiainvest.net. 14281 IN NS ns2.hongkong-servers.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION (2 records)
ns1.hongkong-servers.com. 172681 IN A 202.157.180.101
ns2.hongkong-servers.com. 172681 IN A 202.157.180.31

This program should not be viewed as a straightforward RPP, as the main profits come from currency trading not from the actual policy payout.

In this scenario, they are borrowing against an Endowment Policy issued based on the members personal details, the policy has a face value of US$320,000, therefore the loan amount at 60% of face value is US$192,000.

They have then allocated the US$192,000 loan to cover, Bank fees/professing fees, Trustee fees/processing, Reinvesting TEP, Referral bonus 8 levels deep, these costs total US$112,000.

Now if you deduct these total costs of US$112,000 from the total available loan of US$192,000 this = US$ 80,000, and it is these funds are then used to trade in FX on an arbitraged basis, meaning that the buying and selling of the currencies is done simultaneously which minimises risk, since they have profits locked in on every trade because they already have a buyer lined up at the same time as they make the currency purchase, that is why profits can be guaranteed by the trustee agreement.

As for why they would utilize the loan amount (which after all is Other Peoples Money not out of their pocket) to facilitate this transaction, the answer is because they will be making US$100,500 per policy (30% share) X 10,000 policies = US$1,005,000,000, which I think you’ll agree is a pretty significant above market return considering it has cost them nothing out of their own pocket, since they are merely facilitating the transaction as financial intermediaries and therefore effectively receiving a 30% comission per policy.

The fact that they are using an anonymous domain register is pretty much the norm since (like all RPP type opportunities) they are engaged in offering what amounts to a “private placement”, not a public offering, therefore to minimise regulator interventions it is logical to remain low profile (anonymous) from outsiders, just like ICC, PWW etc.

I am not a member, but I’m looking seriously at this one.

Thanks for the input Panther2. I guess there are so many other servers that have a better reputation that can offer the privacy and protection is what I am looking at. I understand they are wanting a low profile, the way they did it is just setting off a little red warning sign in my mind.

I think they have misrepresented themselves a bit by saying their banks are private but have logos for 3 different banks on the site home page which can be as simple as a cut and paste. The English and grammer is pretty rough as well as quite a few misspellings.

I would think they would have someone fluent in the language proof before launching.

They have been in Germany, then England now Panama ???? As I said, I think this one I'm going to watch.

I don't see 3 different “Bank logos” on the website, what I see is simply one corporate logo for their IBC.

It was the person starting this thread that claimed (erroneously) it has Lloyds and Barclays Bank logo on the website, which since Lloyds is my own Bank and I know Barclays very well, I can confirm that the logo does not belong to either Bank, so there is no cut and paste here, just a logo designed specifically for their IBC.

As for their less than perfect use of the English language, we both know that exactly the same thing can be said about PWW, but that has not stopped us from working with them.

Anyway, in the final analysis each person must make their own decision, and so like you I too am waiting and watching.

The logos were there because I saw them too. In fact, to prove a point elsewhere I used one of the 3 as an avatar. I even commented on it elsewhere and maybe word is going back to the owners/webmaster and they are cleaning the site up. I hope so.

In checking the website just now, the logos are not there but were at the very bottom of the home page below the navigation bar. The logo you are referring to is on the Barclays website and is not copy protected and very easy to hijack. click here They (Imperia) was using the logo in the top left hand corner of the above link.

I hope this one works for everyone that signs up and that my gut feeling is telling me a tall tale.

If Barclays and Lloyds logo were on the website previously it is consistent with the fact that they have stated that they are working with top 100 world banks (i.e. the ones providing the 60% loan), the FAQs section states this point, however I do not think it was a good idea to mention (imply) their names publicly by using the banks logo on the website, as the name of the banks is always confidential, and the fact that they have removed it shows they have now corrected their mistake.

Accordingly, I continue to keep an open mind.

Well... I put my $50 in and I got accepted and there's $80,000 in the Imperia account that's earning 1.2% daily and compounding. I guess I won't know if I'm gonna get paid until the 6 months is done and the 10,000 member's Target is reached. So.... I guess I'll wait.


Zeus

Boy you would be surprised if I were to introduce you to a good friend of mine offline that has been personally paid out from two separate offline RPPs. Anything is possible when you think BIG. Guess you'll never know. I'm not saying if Imperia is legit or not, but RPPs do exist.

Regards,
The Wrangler

Thanks for that statement Wrangler. I also don't know if they're gonna pay but "Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained"!!!


Zeus

My thoughts exactly! Even if only one of these RPPs pays out, then e.valuating and joining several of them was worth the risk.

Best Success to All,
Regards,
The Wrangler

mistake.

The Wrangler

Only 7000 positions left for grab!!!

Cool! Anyone know if we can promote this in any way or is it only word of mouth?

And--are they cool with this exposure in forums like this---just curious.

Hi people.

I did join today, lets see how it goes

real...



where?

if it does then it's a scam

I have 3 TEP contracts...

In my account currently:

TEP Trade Profit TEP Trade Profite
$ 18,363.82

Active TEP Trade Aktive TEP Trade
$ 258,513.82

Total TEP Trade Invest Gesamt TEP Trade Investment
$ 258,513.82

Good for you. I like the idea of this one-thinking of joining(when I get some
funds,of course)

At first you join and make payment $50 in order to request TEP contract. Later they will ask you for your data (passport number, date of birth, citizenship). They will give you $80,000 as a loan during 3-5 working days or week. Welcome to InvestImperia!

What happens if a member never applied for a passport? Would they require other information?
I emailed the rest of my data at the beginning of this week. I haven't received a reply from the administrators requesting more information, but I just wanted to make sure what I sent was enough.

Hello,

Can you clarify a question for me please. When you have paid your money and received your US$80,000 loan, does the trading being immediately and mature in 6 months per contract, OR do they have to hit the 10,000 target FIRST, then the trading starts for each members account with US$80,000 in it?

Thank you.

Good question.

Will wanna know this too...anyone???

Sure, it will be enough. Just be patient! After I had requested else 2 contracts I waited for $160,000 for over 10 days!

I think this program is limited to 10,000 contracts per $80,000. After I had received my US$80,000 loan, the trading started immediately. Every day the profit of my loan grows. The profit of the 2 new requested contracts is added to the total profit every day. So I am looking forward to payout in December/January.

Good luck, Alex! Herzlich wilkommen!

Thank you for the clarification.

All the best.

Website is down-----what's up?

Sometimes ImperiaInvest is down. Just be patient! Try to access later!

ImperiaInvest is accessible now... They are trading only from Monday till Friday. Currently my page looks so:

TEP Trade Profit TEP Trade Profite
$ 21,464.18

Active TEP Trade Aktive TEP Trade
$ 261,614.18

Total TEP Trade Invest Gesamt TEP Trade Investment
$ 261,614.18

Trying to sign up. I have enough e-currency in my account(ebullion) but when I try to sign up I get error msg---not enough egold to do transaction.

Do I need to convert ecurrency to egold to get it to work?

I bought 3 contracts via e-gold. I have no experience with e-bullion to make payment in ImperiaInvest. If you have problem with making payment from e-bullion, it would be better to convert ecurrency to e-gold (exchange).

I too am looking to sign up but would prefer to use e-bullion e-currency as per their website option, so if you do you speak to admin about your problem, and get a reply, do please advise me if we can use e-bullion, as this is my preference particularly since they do offer it on their website ?


Thank you.

They take ebullion---but they dont seem to take the ebullion/ecurrency option--only the ebullion/metal option. All my ebullion is in ecurrency.....

I have received some info from an associate that they do accept e-bullion e-currency but you have to submit it manually to their account.



Here are the details:

They accept E-Bullion (GOLD) & E-Bullion E-Currency & E-Gold as payment menus. If transferring E-Bullion E-Currency, do the transfer manually to their (Imperia) account: of D07549. If transferring E-Bullion Gold, just follow the prompts through their merchant provider.
!!!Important for e-bullion users!!!

Please do not forget to send Imperia your (Imperia) username and e-bullion transaction number by E-Mail after depositing your e-bullion funds to our (Imperia) account.

This is important to confirm these funds successfully and to have available in your depot.
Send in your notification of your E-Bullion Spend to their email address at:

office AT imperiainvest DOT net

Hope this helps.

This is correct. I deposited using e-bullion e-currency. Just takes longer doing it manually.

Thanks guys---I'll give it a try....

Do you know if it is possible to purchase multiple contracts from the outset when you first sign up and send in your e-bullion e-currency payment manually, INSTEAD of the TWO steps of having to FIRST pay US$50, and only then purchase further policies AFTERWARDS, do you know if this is possible, or do you have to do it in 2 steps only?

I think you have to do it in two steps. First, make the deposit to depot. You can apparently deposit enough for multiple contracts. Then step two is to actually "request a contract".

At least I don't know of another way to do it.

Also, I have been told we can purchase up to 50 contracts, depending on our age.

The easiest way to make payment is to use the payment system www.e-gold.com E-bullion is good too, but e-gold is more convenient to use!

I talked to a friend who knows a lot about Imperia. His answer to your question:

"You can use the DEPOSIT TO DEPOT link to deposit as much as you wish, on the first occasion or any subsequent occasion. Just change the figure in the box.

Once the money is recorded in your DEPOT BALANCE, you can use the REQUEST TEP link to ask for as many TEPs as you have enough in your balance for. Again you just enter the amount you wish to spend from your balance. Eg if you want 5 contracts and have at least $250 in your balance, then enter 250 and click the Order TEP Trade (spend) box.

One of the reasons why people sometimes buy 1, and then buy 4 instead of just buying 5, is that they would rather make an error with $50 than $250. However, it is my experience that IMPERIA will sort out your errors manually for you if you do indeed make errors. Mind you they're pretty busy, but they still do the job for us."

I hope this helps.

Remember I am using e-bullion e-currency not e-bullion gold, and as you know when using e-bullion e-currency you have to make your deposit manually to their e-currency account following the instructions I posted previously (see my previous post), therefore do I still make my deposit to DEPOSIT TO DEPOT if I am using e-bullion e-currency or do I FIRST make the manual deposit as per my previous post?


If so where is, DEPOSIT TO DEPOT located, do you in fact mean DEPOT LOGIN, remember I can not see the back office as I am not yet a member?


Thank you.

Hi Panther,

It is difficult to remember all the procedures since I did it some weeks ago. I think some of your questions will be answered as you actually go through the process. But, as best as I remember, here is what you do:

First you need to sign up. Then follow the directions. I think you will need to go to Deposit to Depot

"Deposit to Depot" simply means you are depositing to your back office, regardless of which e-currency you are using. It's just that it is not automatic with e-bullion e-currency. The deposit to depot is located in your back office. It is where everyone must go in order to make a deposit.

Here is what you will read from Imperia once you click on "Deposit to Depot": "!!!Important for e-bullion users!!!
Please do not forget to send us your username (Imperia) and e-bullion transaction number by E-Mail after deposting your e-bullion funds to our account. This is important to confirm these funds successfully and to have available in your depot. office@imperiainvest.net"

Once they receive your information they will manually deposit your funds into your depot account.

From there, you will click on "Request TEP contract" in order to actually purchase the contracts. If I'm not mistaken, you purchase one contract at a time, but you can purchase as many as you have funds for in your depot account.

Someone told me that "depot" is a German word for back office.

Hope this helps.

Thank you elcitros, but just to be clear, are you saying that when I sign up and click on "Deposit to Depot" there will actually be an option in the back office for me to pay by e-bullion e-currency rather than just e-bullion gold?


Thank you.