Hey guys, I was thinking, shouldnt we start some kind of investors union for the investors by the investors, I think this would cut out alot of scammers in the hyip industry, we need to make some kind of governing body for hyip's, of course only so much information would be needed from admins, but we need more than forums and monitors, because they are both just a source of income for their respective owners, I mean they do both give people advice on hyip's but they still house scams, I mean this is how we find the scams. Forums should be used to communicate, not for making decisions.

We should start some type of accrededation system for hyip's, this would help people alot.

Just a thought, what do you guys think??

Would anybody be interested in forming a union of investors??

P.S. To me the HYIP world is like the wild wild west right now, there's simply no regulatory body in place.

hyip is illegal... giving away any personal info could risk a jail sentence

... where it not there no accusers there is not judge, and it there Hyip and Hyip..

..not putting everybody in the same baskets ....

THE HYIP INVESTORS BIBLE

http://www.hyip.com/ht/pdf/hyip.guide.en.pdf

In conjunction with what's been said, I think that's where HYIP gets it's appeal. It's like a goldrush without leaving the comfort of your home.

i think MMG have been giving you.

I understand that chris, defnitely, but what I'm saying is that we wouldn't require personal information from admins, we would just have certain requirements that the investment program would have to meet. Programs with outrageous returns would never have a chance, they would be shut down before they even got started, admins would have to prove profitability (ensuring that they are not ponzi's), they wouldnt have to make the information public, but they would have to allow officials from the union to actually see documentation of them owning trading accounts and the fact that they were profitable in doing so. There is strength in numbers. Any hyip could submit an application to be accredited by the union, as a certified investment, many would be denied. We have to clean up this industry or we'll be losing forever, there are actual hyip's that pay, and that actually do some trading, these are the ones that would be accredited, I dont care if we go from having 5000 hyips to only 5, at least we know those 5 are good, this union would eliminate THOUSANDS of scams, because if the union was strong enough, scammers wouldn't make any money.

The time is now, we need this union.

Also, no one person would be the sole decision maker, every hyip that applies for acceptance from the union would be subject to a vote from the officials of the union, I may like it, another official may not, so on and so forth, the officials would decide.




The goldrush has come and gone, people are just panning the same creeks, but there is still gold, just not where everybody else is looking.

I am new to the HYIP community. I thought it would be a great place to reach an outside investor base globally. There are places where communities work together to find and sponsor legitimate High Yielding programs (maybe not as high yielding as what some promise with 200% all over the place)

I've talked to a couple of people who had the same idea. Even if you did do this, you're left with a couple obstacles. Things may go great at first, like any other program(s) that starts out.

So, let's say that you have a couple great programs that last for a couple months. Then, you have some of the programs fail, and a lot of a people are going to be crying scam for losing their money. Those people crying scam will bring more negative publicity than positive publicity. Your "union" will then be very unstable and not many will want to be associated with it...let alone bringing in heat from government sources.

The other thing to worry about are the admins that try to build up a reputation for running a good game or two, and then attempt to start an even larger one to then scam everyone giving the "union" another black eye.

Next thing you know, you have other unions popping up trying to compete with your union, saying it has better programs listed under it. That union will be a complete scam, and then no one will trust a union again.

Just kind of probably brings more problems than solve problems.

PrivateHYIPS seems to do just fine.

Understandably so, some people(maybe such as yourself) like to play the hyip games, because they may be better at it than the newbies, and know a little more than other investors, so you win and the other investors are left with nothing. Gambling should be done at a casino, not with an "investment". These are not investments at all, 98% of hyip's do no actual trading and thats the thing.

I can't speak on what another union would do, all I know is that we would do it right.

We should unite and start a megaprogram, for the people by the people, I kinda got an idea.

Theres this really great website http://www.affordablestock.com/pennystocks/march2007.htm

This site gives actual stock picks, that are very profitable, these would be the picks I would use, I wouldnt be hiding anything, like programs normally do, people could actually see what happened with the picks, if we lost or not, if we gained, I've known some programs to take in $30 million dollars, now think if we came together and actually had a REAL investment, we could all stop playing games. We should do this. What do you guys think??

I think thats the important thing that admins need to be very open with their members. A lot of things I took into consideration with my program was creating a set dividend as well as a PROGRAM CAP, so when revenue statements are shown, everyone knows what their share is. Another DD group does sound good.

A union / dd group should only stick to real investment programs.

Exactly, and everybody could see what I'm doing 2, so that would be the good thing. I can go more into if you guys want to try it out, we can get the ball rolling, we would just need alot of support

Would anybody be interested in forming the union, if we did, we really wouldn't need hyip's anymore. We could have real accounts with real trades.

I think of it this way, everybody would own a share of the portfolio, equal to your purchase amount, think of it like this, if we raised $500,000 and you spent $100, that would entitle you to 0.02% of the overall portfolio. NOW say if the overall value of the portfolio rose to $15 million, your 0.02% would be worth $3000, thats $3000 real dollars that you don't have to worry about anybody running with. If the value of the portfolio rose to $150 million, your 0.02% would be worth $30,000, and this is real money. THATS YOURS and not the ADMINS.

$1000 would be worth $300,000, so on and so forth, if you guys wanna do it, let me know

LoL ure just running another hyip mate not a union.

Danny...

Yes indeed. This quote doesn't sound like any "union" I know of:



That's the kind of trading only one of those very skilled Admins with the pirated goldocders script can achieve!

NUK

Autosurf/Hyip union. I remember those days. Ahh, the nostalgia of it all.

This would "cut out" the hyip "industry"

Haha good one Nuk.
1000 - 300,000 is not possible at all.
I'm taking a stab in the dark..
But is this thread by any chance Very Very Important

It's not possible...you sure, do you know ANYTHING about the REAL stock market, not forex, I'm talking about nasdaq, NYSE and Amex. I'm pretty sure you don't. Do you know anything about IPO's, you probably don't, thats an initial public offering. Let me explain something 2 u, as to how profitable it can be. If you spend $10,000 on a stock and that stocks value increases by 40% thats a $4000 profit, FROM ONE STOCK, and I don't have to worry about an admin taking it from me. You know what, honestly I may have used the wrong term when I said "union", maybe I should have said an investment club or something, because the trolls jumped all over the union thing.

Honestly I don't think it's a bad idea, i just think that some people are 2 dumb to understand the concept, somebody mentioned goldcoders script and the other tried to tell me that i would be running an hyip...I think he actually called me "mate" or something, I got news for you buddy, I'm alot of things, but your mate aint one of em.

WE ALL HAVE THE SAME GOAL, WHY ARE WE SO AGAINST UNITING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS??

Geez, if you're going to get hostile about it.

Not hostile, some people get it, some people don't. Now scamming people out of their money, and crushing their hopes and dreams, it doesnt get anymore "hostile" than that.

LOL You make me laugh
I live in New York. Not that that matters, but I have quite a lot of money invested in the NYSE.
I'm not the person to tell "You don't know about the stock market" or legitimate investing for that matter.
HYIPs are games. It's gambling, it's fun to pass time.
We all know that those rates are not realistic in real life.
Although legitimate investments aren't as profitable compared to the ponzis and scams, there are regulations and it's pretty controlled as far as the government, which is why I wouldn't be worried about having tens of thousands being played around with in stocks. Ask me that about HYIPs, and I doubt I could answer through the fits of laughter.

I'd say it's safe to say I know "SOMETHING" about the "REAL stock market" as you say.
Unless... There's a "FAKE" stock market and I'm doing it all wrong

LOL, I don't care if you live in OLD YORK, means nothing to me...and by the way, if you've got "a lot" of money invested in the NYSE and your in an HYIP forum...then yes...you're probably doing it all wrong, LOL.

You make me laugh, who's your broker??, and dont do a google search on brokers, tryna figure it out, LOL

Because someone doesn't agree with you it doesn't make them dumb.

Calling people names will get you loads of support!

Okay, maybe not.

I've used Charles Schwab for 10 years. Like I said, HYIPs are like gambling to pass the time
Frankly, it's none of your business what I do with my money, if I wish to waste it on HYIPs, more power to me, I live well without it.
I can tell you one thing, your audacity and belligerency will not get you far here

When i say dumb, I'm referring to the trollers, not people in general.

This has really turned into a personal matter, all of this back and forth is beneath me, from now on I will only post in regards to the topic, not about who knows what and who's this and who's that, and for the record when I said stupid I was actually referring to 2 people and nobody else. I must refrain from bickering like this, post as you may. I'll stick to posting about what I'm here for.

Rising Sun and hula, i have nothing against neither of you, I'm impartial. My apologies if i have offended either of you.

Sounds like you are on the right track now.