I don't know if your aware of this yet but your Traderj account has also been re-opened in MCF and Nick has asked all members in there to show you respect if you go back there to post.

I hope your meeting on Thursday goes well and that you and Nick find some positives from it.

Was paid 11-17 to my STP account. Thanks P-2-P, jesfas

Congrats on your payment! welcome to mmg too

The thread i was referring to in regard to your loss of money was the AsianPay Investors Corner. You made mention of having 40k lost to them, and you were ready to contact your lawyer. (And if so, I'm sorry for your loss...that's a huge amount and it's awful).

The gambling thread reference was entirely separate. I didn't make mention of you losing money gambling, or being a gambler, but in the 5 minutes I took to look, I saw three different threads regarding gambling in which you posted. But that topic only came up b/c I was replying to someone else that made a reference TO gambling (regarding you). And, I do believe that they thought you were someone else when the post was made.

Now whether YOU are a gambler or not...I really don't care! (Because the reference again, was made when it was thought you could be someone else entirely). I like gambling personally. I actually wish I could do it more! I live in New York, but I've only been to AC once. Had a ball...but of course I lost the money I went with. To me, that didn't matter...just had fun with it. When gambling sites online were less strict in the USA, I had an account with one site, and won a very nice chunk of money! So, it's gone both ways for me. Anyway, that's neither here nor there and I'm really rambling now...

I'm certainly glad that you and Nick have spoken, will be meeting, and I hope that it's beneficial for both of you. I know that Nick would like members to be welcoming of you over at MCF. I also hope that once you've had your meeting with Nick, you'll let us know your thoughts on it. Maybe you'll be joining us?

While your meeting with Nick, I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that my scale doesn't read 10lbs more than it should after I stuff my face with Turkey!!!

I don't recall saying the money was lost only that I didn't have access to it at the time as they were having issues, but that is obviously semantics... it was a bit more than 40k I was rounding. I have received all of it but 9k which is still outstanding and the legal battle continues with them. In fairness they are being as helpful as they can under the given circumstances.



Yes I read all the nonsense, just because the traderj account was blocked didn't mean I didn't have access. I read how I was Peter somebody, then I was Richard somebody, then I was the point man for a bunch of online scammers trying to bring down P2P and of course the best one was I was doing it all to cover my massive gambling debts. I guess some people just have very wild imaginations... if anybody had bothered to ask who I was I would have been happy to tell them. I'm not hiding anything.



For the record I live within a ten minute walk of 4 off line casinos and as such I see the hell that gambling can play with people's lives.. I don't get involved. I like my money to be in places I at least have some control over what its doing and a Casino is not one of those places. I will at times go to one of the sport books to watch some of the games.. but thats about it. I have nothing against gambling or people that can do it within their limits, it's simply not my cup of tea.



Well in all fairness although Nick is a very engaging speaker nothing he said answered the main issues I have and we have agreed to disagree on a couple of issues and we are going to let those things work themselves out when we can face to face.. the phone and the net are hardly the best way to do business.

As for joining you it's not likely simply because Nick confirmed he would not be able to handle the size of investment we were talking about, at least not in the venture that he is operating P2P under. There was talk of other things and he is aware of the people I represent we have left the discussion open for the future as we both have the types of deals that the other would have interest in, so at least that door is open for the future.

Oddly enough Nick agreed with me on the phone that if he was in my shoes he would NOT invest with him either. The size of investment combined with the fact that he is not willing (due to privacy issues) to provide a paper trail of the investment should be taken into account. He was also very honest in his assessment that he is baffled by people biting off more than they can financially afford in ANY investment including P2P.

All in all it was a worthwhile use of my time and although it's clear P2P is simply not for us, he did have a few other things in the works that my people might be interested in hence our leaving the door open for further discussion and of course to move forward creating trust which is obviously in short supply on both our parts right now.



Enjoy your thanksgiving....

You know I debated even replying to your nonsense, but the bottom line is you should really mind your own business. If you bothered to read back a few posts you would see that a number of people expressed the desire that I comment if my views had changed since talking to Nick. The post I actually quoted I was replying to DIRECTLY.

Perhaps in your world its polite to ignore direct questions and requests but in my world and the world where most people live it's called being polite.

You don't have to read anything I write and if YOU don't want me to reply to posts that are directed to me and require a response then I would think you should ask the people that are asking the questions cease to do so.

You also stand corrected this thread is NOT only for current or possible P2P members, its also for former members and anybody that wants to express an opinion good or bad, that is what discussion is all about. Amazing people like YOU have to come in here and try to stir things up again... astounding...

BTW the massive fonts and bold just make you look silly... not important. Oh if my words are so pointless and meaningless why did you feel the need to quote my entire post???

Have a nice day.

Sir, in all due respect, you must enjoy seeing the printed words that you espouse. This forum was created for would-be and current members of P-2-P. The members here have for the most part done their investigations as to whether they should put funds into the program or not.

Why should anyone desire to know why you or any group you represent wants or wants not to be a member of P-2-P? All most people want and/or need to know initially is whether P-2-P is paying out and is there a good possibility it will continue to do so.

If you don't believe it's a good thing for you or your group, pass on it and move on. Stop trying to stroke your ego thinking you are educating the masses. Many or the people here, have just as much or more online experience as you in involving themselves in this business.

So, my question to you is, "What are you trying to accomplish?"

Most of the time, well-meaning folks like you are one of the primary reason these type of businesses end so quickly.

Scam or not, each individual should be allowed to make there own decision as to whether they should involve themselves or not. They really don't need an outside self-servicing know-it-all telling them they don't know what they are doing and that they need to be prepared for the fall that is eminent.

Well-meaning or not, you are doing more harm than good.

cvkint, thank you for the post #905. I found it interesting to read about your talk with Nick.

You're quite welcome, it was nice to hear things directly from him as opposed to second hand,
glad you found it interesting.





Could you possible make the fonts bigger at all? I know some people might have trouble seeing it.. thanks.

I wonder how long before a MOD here edits your posts as you are obviously trolling.... guess we'll just have to wait and see

Geeeze, how to make an investment here??? I deposited 20 bucks via AP but when trying to make an investment nothing happens... I pick a plan from the list, specify the amount to invest and press Buy now... and nothing happens.
Only get that weird message every time with any amount: "Please invest a minimum of $10". What i do wrong? lol

You don´t have to use the decimal point while purchasing plans.
If $20 is your amount then simply add 2000 in the box and it will work. This is how the system is configured.

Good luck,

Risen:

I think most of us are thinking the same thing= Enough is Enough

Thank you, good old IVM. It really worked.

You are always welcome Copperwood and Welcome on board

I agree IVM you're quite right, oddly enough I was reading Nick's post today at MCF and he seemed pretty clear that people behaving like Risen causing trouble in other forums were being frowned upon...

But I guess you're right Risen is a great example of the type of member YOU want to see in your program huh? I have actually copied the posts to show Nick how serious his members seem to take his request...

hmm I don´t get what you mean in the statement in bold above.
Do you mean that I (IVM ) want to see this kind of " members attacking others" in forums ?

Of course I am not the only one feeling bad for all this and you bet I prefer peace before war but this doesn´t mean I must change my mind or my opinions about others all of a sudden ( based on past posts that most of us had to read ), simply because Nick thinks I should.

I respect Nick and his professionalism but I still make my own decisions and I can´t help being more cautious. This is personal. Not everyone feels or react the same way. Time must go by in my case sometimes and just see how things move on.

For what I see, it is the same with you. After callng Nick you will surely need sometime to see. Am I wrong? If this is so, it is OK.

Unless I misunderstood your comment in bold, then this is what I posted in MCF and have no problem to bring it here as well.

Good to hear that traderj and Nick are scheduled for an "eyeball"..

Hope the outcome is positive and is sufficient to satisfy any nagging suspicions or reservations in anyone's mind.


I really want this venture to be real.

After Nick Pola's, PSX and CEP, I was hoping this would be the last online program that I would spend my hard-earned bucks on.


I am no referral hound, never was and never have been-- all my spends come directly from blood, sweat, and tears.


If this ends up like all the rest... I will be forced to explore other online avenues like internet, affiliate, or information marketing--not passive investing-- but it's making money the old-fashioned way.

Please tell me what else one could think when you encourage somebody that has made THREE copy and paste posts in a row that say ZERO about the program in anyway?



You clearly misunderstand I don't care what you or anyone else posts... you see the difference is now you can't BLAME me saying I'm doing anything wrong. Please show ONE negative post I've made since talking to Nick? Exactly not one... my comments and point of view are being made in private and to Nick... nobody is asking you like me or give a rat's ass about me, but if you think your P2P member who is CLEARLY attempting to keep hard feelings going is worth agreeing with you are no longer neutral but part of the problem.



CORRECT, but unlike YOUR firend Risen I have done NOTHING to keep a war of words going. A member of P2P asked me some questions which I answered honestly and to the best of my ability. There was no flaming and no negativity... if you believe that somehow means I should be stalked by Risen that I fail to how that is talking time to do anything? It's simply trying to keep the same old war going...

Like I said, please show me where I've posted anything negative or attacked anyone in anyway since talking to Nick? I agreed with him to keep my findings and feelings to myself until he and I have a chance to sit down face to face.. I have kept my side of the bargin, sadly some his members don't seem mature enough to do so. Not referring to you here but I think you know who.

Now that I've made my point I will refrain from anymore posting UNTIL I am directly asked something or again attacked... seem fair enough to me.

Ok I see your point and I respect it. But I see you can´t see my point here and hope we don´t have a problem.

I just said ( MCF and here ) that I am more cautious when the time to think that war is over comes. I still need to wait and see how things continue. This doesn´t mean I want to add more trouble and I never said you and Nick trying to solve your differences is a bad thing. Not at all. Just the opposite way. Everytime two people spend enough time as to discuss ( regardless of thinking alike or not ) is very good. This is exactly why I posted "Enough is enough" to Risen´s post. As a way to stop future trouble here.
Actually some days ago I made it clear here that I was fed up with people bashing people, giving opinions as if they were facts and members not being able to give opinions in a respectful way.

About the other member, I will not take responsabilities for his actions. May be I quoted his post but NOT the whole post. Just those statements when I thought I agreed with. May be that was my mistake? Probably but again, just quoted some of his opinions.

And you bet I DO NOT think you have been negative or attacking members here after calling Nick. If I thought this way, I would not be talking to you or taking this time to reply. Same as I left the thread before I would leave it again if war continued.

I sincerely hope you and Nick manage to be civil and agree to disagree if that is the case.

I do see you point and agree. Point taken.

Hello there buddy Nice to see you here.
Don't worry about P2P, get to know more about it in Kent's 'My Cash Forum' (MCF) there are great updates, intelligent peeps (me inclusive..lol, and we like to add you to the pack), Nick's 1st interview - with more to follow... You'll get to know this business is real...You can call Nick if you're not convinced or meet the man in person if you wish (but you have to fly to canada)...this program is unlike any other we've seen so far...Hope to see you in MCF soon, you know my nick there...

Hello there sag --we're all after one thing-- a better life and future-- not to be screwed over once again in this unforgiving arena.

Yep..I've been to MCF,

Been part of P2P since july 07..

I of course am aware of the concerns of traderj and whereof he might be coming from.

I hope -- at the very least--that Nick is running a legit operation --and that traderj is himself doing some valid diligence for his own investing interests -- and not one rooted on any malevolent hidden agenda.

it would be interesting to find out the outcome of their meeting.

I requested a payout this morning. I will update when paid...

Are you even aware as to what trolling is? I have money in P-2-P, as well as other sites. My response to anybody is simply this, either put your money where your mouth is or get out the game!

In the last two years, I have observed too many good programs suffer because too many people want to be so self-important and seek to educate the masses on the ills of on-line investing. Too many of these people have no money involved whatsoever in a program, are trying to tell people that do, to beware of the eminent loss of their money. Why not simply just check the program out and either decide to get in or stay out. After which, just go find one that works for you.

It is true people are allow to do and say what you choose to, but a wise man does so without bring harm to others. If you don't understand what I mean, maybe you need to review your history of the financial arena. The history reveals the many times well-meaning individuals have caused chaos by speculation and mis-information or just simple negativity.

If you indeed talked to Nick, I'm sure it was a private conversation between you, he and whatever parties the two of you chose to have in it. I would think since anyone has the same opportunity, if they want to really know if their funds in P-2-P are truly secure, they would not rely on second-hand information from you.

Most people involved in this business for at least a month or two, realize these programs don't last forever. Most businesses rarely do!

All I know is that the ride is much smoother without someone in the backseat always complaining about the car, and talking about how soon it's going to crash!

Allow the members to enjoy the ride.

Come on Risen, you've had your say. Haven't you noticed that this guy is open to changing his attitude and as far as I can see he already has. He is also looking for first-hand information, from the man himself. Good for him! I wished I lived as close to Nick that I could actually go see him!
Please stop feeding the negativity any further - this way YOU are doing more harm than good.

Meanwhile, the "I got paid" thread at MCF is growing daily. So very nice to see!

Thank-you much!

Hi Risen,

I'm sure we can all understand where you're coming from, but CvKint has already spoken with Nick and both of them seemed to have enjoyed their conversation. He's since expressed no interest in making any attacks or any interest in being attacked. So I say, let's all relax and enjoy P2P Nick left a great post today, and we've got more news to look forward to soon! Good things to come...and some good Holidays too!

Happy Thanksgiving to all USA members!

wherez the admin? did anybody invite him

You can reach him @ MyCashForum.com

Yes trolling in a forum is when somebody is posting for the express purpose of baiting someone or creating some sort of tension. As you ARE the only person that seems to want any sort of negativity to continue I have no choice but to assume you are trolling. Please continue making your posts all you want, it doesn't cause me any harm and you simply continue to show yourself to be behaving in EXACTLY the opposite way that your fellow P2P members and program Admin have asked you to behave... speaks volumes about YOUR need for approval.

Have a nice day.

I received my second withdrawal from P-2-P today. The withdrawal was requested on Nov. 13th.

Sounds like Nick is catching up a lot faster on withdrawal processing. I keep reading posts about Nick making P-2-P a private program soon.

Private programs are nice if the admin feels he has a good stock of backup funds on his end.

I was also paid today, Nov.21, for a Nov. 12 payout request to my Alertpay account. Looks they are running about 9 days now and catching up fast.

Harry

Congratulations to you all, with respect to receipt of your payments.

Nothing like getting some tangible return back from a program...

PS: Very happy indeed cvkint to see that you an Nick have had a verbal chat and in the not too distant future if not mistaken a face to face reality one...

Thank you for honoring each other in this regard and speaking in private when you may or may not have concerns arise...That is very mature and very good hearted way to present yourself.

I think this is a wonderful program and feel blessed in many regards that I was able to discover Nick and what he offers and he granted me an opening, especially if he does decide to go private eventually.

All the best with your future direction and that goes for everybody here also.

Sanctuary

Well guess what MG??? Nick was on his way to Montreal today, and he called me regarding a deposit I had, and we had a long chat. I didn't get to see him, but chatting with him was very reassuring.

PS: I wanted to issue an invite, but he said he was here on business, so I'm sure he was to busy! LOL

And CONGRATS to all who got paid today!!!

In the sign up page is asking me to put in my e-gold number but when i make deposit , there is no e-gold provided only alertpay and STP, what happen ?

Just ignore the box for the egold number. They do not accept it anymore so it is not necessary.

Randy

i would have preferred e-gold deposit, anyway lr is also fine

paid to my STP account today!

CONGRATS!!!! I'm looking forward to my first payout too. Should be any day now!

Can any friend guide me that P2p still a place to spend not too late for this

Hi there success07,
In answer to you question..It is not too late to participate in P2P presently. You first of all would need to choose either of the Payment Gateways.

Alert Pay or SolidTrustPay.. (Then get verified and Make your Deposit via either gateway, from there you then will be-able to Fund your P2P account via the gateway you opt for: I prefer STP myself.

If you have know-body else to refer you and you will see 2 programs on my page.. One of them is a direct link to P2P so you can register.

Sorry I cannot PM you in here as I need to post 25times before permitted.

PS: Plz See signature Below:

Hope that helps to guide you
All the best
Sanctuary

Looks like Nick is catching up with everything, not only deposits! I finally got my long awaited October 16th deposit added to my account today!!!

Also included, was every penny of interest that I would have earned since the 16th!!!!

Thank you, Nick!!!

Wonderful news for you treebartt,
Congratulations, hope you reap many more rewards from this program...This will be my very first withdrawal I am awaiting on from this wonderful program offered by Nick.

I have every confidence it will pay like clockwork, because it has a good person at the helm overseeing the operational procedures, namely Nick!!!

Enjoy the weekend, that is echoed out to everybody as well

Sanctuary

I also got my payo
ut to STP, $300. thanks Nick and keep up the good work. I received this payout in 8 days, so he is catching up. Thanks again, jesfas

A GREAT PROGRAM!!

there some Nov. 18 payouts showing, nick is catching up.

I was paid today after request of payment on 17th Nov (Very First Payment)

Many Many thanks to Nick and Support Crew


Sanctuary

I got paid into my STP acct (nearly 1/2 my seed) for a pending Nov 18. Certainly wasn't expecting it after only 5 days waiting.

So good to hear payouts are moving nicely and people are happy with them.

Congrats everyone.

Thank you Sanctuary!! I agree.






WOW!!! Nov. 18th already??? That's great! I have an 18th request, and thought I had to wait

a while longer, because of the delays, but it seems he caught up super fast!!!

What a nice surprise! WTG Nick!!!!

Cool very nice
I have to wait for the plan to mature in December
When the money will get in my hands