You are making me blush again Matt ... - thanks, I try to help whenever I can.
Cool! Congratulations angusmitch
I have a 10/26 pending as well so I guess my turn will come very soon now!
This will be my last payment to STP - it will be the debit card from here on for me. (Who would have thought - I guess I have 'fallen' for Nick ... )

Way2Go angusmitch!

Always good to see paid posts in MMG as well.

And you know that, how?

I just received my pending from 10/26 !

They are really catching up now - very nice!

Looks like things are moving along as promised! Love to see those PAID posts.

Nice to see an ADMIN that delivers!

I agree with the general concensus of our little community! I just sent off an International Postal Money Order to STP to fund my deposit $220 more in p-2-p. When deposited and my current position matures (3 more weeks), I will be setting up to have rolling 60 day positions, eventually (within one year?) creating $18,750 in monthly income. That's what can result from the Laddering Investment plan.

pbeach58

Congrats MyGirl.
This is surely a very good day, isn´t it?

Gee, looks to me like RBC has done a little due diligence and found out they were running a ponzi scheme.....y'all better get out now while the getting is good, banking problems tend to be just a little bit before aying problems and then ***POOF*** problems...

Dear friend,

We all know here know the RISKS. At this moment payments are being made. no body is unhappy with this program. so please we all do not need your advice.

Well ... those of us who take the time informing ourselves, know why this change was made.
You could maybe listed to the live interview with the admin first, it's posted on the 24surfmonitor in the left column before you jump to conclusions?
The 'old' bank, where Nick has his personal account was most helpful. P2P now simply has a business account at another bank, so deposits aren't going into Nick's personal account anymore.

On another note: I just thought of something that might help members whose accounts are in 'pending' mode at the moment. You should still be able to log in to your account (if you can't anymore, it is already suspended).
There is an option in the menu I hadn't noticed before: Cancel account.
If you can still log in, you could simply cancel the pending account and when you are ready to deposit + invest, create a new one and deposit + invest right away. Simple, isn't it?
Good luck to anyone this applies to!

I guess you are behind with the news. It is just the opposite way.
It was NOT closed simply because it is legal in Canada and although USA gov tried to put their nose into it ( yes, once again. ) this was to no avail.
If it was all a matter of security then everything would be OK and I am sure everyone would agree but earning through a legal program and paying taxes should be normal.

Fortunately they were not able to tell Canada what to do ( although they tried )
As long as it is legal in Canada then this is "end of conversation".
RBC cooperated with Nick and protected the funds but starting a cooperate account to handle the growth the program has had and is still having was far better than doing it through a personal account and this is what RBC advised.

There seems to be a problem accessing the website at the moment. It was working fine a couple of hours ago.

I'm getting a DNS entry for it so it isn't a cataclysmic failure like Royal-Pay

James

UPDATE FROM NICK!

I will never understand why these idiots waste time and money doing this.

Future does not depend on these things for sure. It will bring what it has to bring...regardless.

I hate such people, they can nothing to create, but like to destroy .. unfortunately not so it's difficult to do ddos-attacks and this is used for have a fun..

hmm....I am able to get the site just fine.

Do not hate them, it is useless.

I don´t think this is for fun. It is about people with no life and with no success or ways to do things well. They are simply unable to show they can come up with something good or constructive.



Same here. It is back up for me

2nd Update from Nick

I personally know the few people which do it sometimes, and do it simply for fun..

Yeah, may be this is what they think it is "funny" and it shows something about their personalities for sure.

I also know that some people hire hackers. They pay money to get it done everytime a program is successful.

If you "personally know" people who do this, why haven't you reported them to the authorities? What they're doing is a crime and is punishable with jail time and/or fines. We all need to do whatever we can to stop these lowlifes!!!

Morning fellow members..

I just dropped by to tell you my news, but I see the site is under Ddos attack.. when will those lowlifes leave the best programs alone.. You know I am starting to think the best opportunities are those that are being DDOS attacked. The programs must be a threat to the badies that is why they want to take it down.

Back to why I came here. Two things:

1. Thanks to Martin for sorting out my little dilema with P2P account, through a support ticket that I sent. I am more than happy with the results.. If you read this Marin, Thank You.. you have made an old fella happy.

2. Payout request to STP on 30 October.... was paid to STP a couple of hours ago... Again thank you. Now gives me time to organize a Christmas for my sugguroate family. I am so happy..the this has been achieved.
Again "Thank You" to P2P for making this possible.

Dorky

Again,...CONGRATS Dorky

( I say "again" because I have just replied to your post in MCF as well...lol )

Congrats to all you happy campers!!.

Nick has the resources at his disposal to implement the components so P2P will continue to flourish, this a a hic up in the road presently as many wholesome programs always are subjected to Denial of Service attacks and sometime Double the impact.

But see the differences here than most Owners: Nick is on the ball and already releasing updates to keep all his family members of this wonderful club in check.

That is what I admire about him, he cares for people genuinely displays such qualities by keeping the calm so people do not go off the rails when the site is inaccessible.

Well done Nick, much appreciated.

Sanctuary

I don't know what a ddos attack is, but is there no way these days, that if you think you may well be subjected to one, that you can set up security to protect your programme?

DDos attack is a big load of traffic that is deliverately sent to a site with the intention to put it down for as long as it lasts.

I am not an expert but I know that there´s no 100% efficient system available ( even those very expensive options are not completely efficient )
Even after egold incorporated the most secure system they were hacked
The main point here is that admin is proactive and saves everything thast needs to be saved in order to keep the system operational later on.

Since Nick has been paying today and after the attack started this proves that he can run his program even though the site is down.
This tells me something

Agreed IVM I was very impressed with Nick's swift and typically decisive action that we are becoming accustomed to and for that I am very grateful. Please do not imagine I am knocking the man in any way. I just wish that he did not have to waste his valuable time on this sick or sad people that have the mindset to create such problems. With the obvious intelligence they have, isn't it a waste? Some of these hackers are brilliant, I just wish they would think it was just as cool to do some really good things with their skills.

Every program that gets good traffic and a high status in MMG will usually be subjected to a DDOS attack.

I trust that P2P will find an appropriate method to repel these attacks.

I don´t think MMG has something to do with all this.
It is success the main point in these people´s mind.

If it was not MMG it would be another source of information out there.
Everytime a site is successful it makes much noise.

And yes sessi. I fully agree with you and I have always thought the same way about their waste of time and good skills but I also think they don´t want to work. They surely hate working.
In other words, useless intelligence and parasites. Nothing constructive to add to this world.

I just removed the latest update I had posted before.

I decided I will not repost more important info here and will try to do as much as I can to protect the program at least with my small part as another member here and although everything is OK with P2P some of us members are trying to do a good team work.

Sorry guys. This is for my own peace of mind and as a way to not feed low lives that don´t have alife and smell around any possible online source of information.

the guy Dorky seems to be the most succesful investor around, he know how to pick
the winning ones and enters early with good strategy to get more benefit out of it while
many struggling. I saw couple programs listed the top 10 investors and see dorky name
among them, he's a few well off investor.

I worked 10 years for the Royal Bank of Canada, and believe me, if there was anything

fishy going on, Nick would have been reported to the authorities and his account frozen, and

then closed, a long time ago.

Besides like others have posted, the RBC just suggested he open a commercial account,

instead of using his personal account.

this looks really promising

Oh Dorky....I'm so happy for you! Congrats my dear friend!!! I know how worried

you were about not getting your funds in time!

I fully agree with you IVM.
We all need to do our part to protect this program.

I'm with you too IVM, I am posting nil, nada here with regards to this programme.

I will join in then, and not post the updates here anymore.
Anyone who is truly interested in P-2-P can join mycashforum.com and read the information there.
We have a wonderful community there where you can speak your mind freely, as long as your intent is to gather information and share knowledge (and not to make trouble). See you all there?

I fully agree with you.

But I like it hear at MMG. I was and am eager to learn from you guys. Oh well, gotta respect the honorable posters. Good bye I'll miss you. sob sob

No no, you won´t need to miss us We will still be here, checking and helping if needed as long as some kind of "private info" is not revealed to those who want to hurt the program. Private info for members ONLY and other ways to help others ( i.e. how to deposit or purchase plans ) are two different things. Even though we 100% stopped posting the thread was started long ago and already has much useful info from other members who have helped alot here.
Needless to say that there are so many forums out there.

MMG has been my place to be for long and I will not force myself to leave it. Going that far is not necessary in my opinion. It just takes a bit of responsability on what we should post or not here and out there in other forums.
We can still help or communicate via PM with those we already know.

About removing P2P from my siggy here this is NOT because I think the program is in trouble
but because some of us have started to think we should handle others participation through special invitation only and once we are sure new prospects are fully aware about the special conditions and aspects of this also "special" online opportunity. That´s all.

I whole heartedly agree, I will always check this thread and go to other forums, chat rooms etc. when I need to get more details.

Hey dorky you hear that people praise you
Maybe you should write an ebook I will help you with the reseller’s rights
We just need the proof of profits, and we have the capture page

You people crack me up. First you state that you want to protect the privacy of P2P by not posting any pertinent information here at MMG...then you turn right around and give the URL for a website that provides all of the information that you are trying to conceal from the MMG members in the first place. Pretty stupid.

Tell us what cracs you up dannyboy and what is that you find pretty stupi.d since I don´t see any link posted here since yesterday.
1) If you refer to any other link posted BEFORE yesterday then editing that post is not possible.
2) If you refer to MCF, guess what. Everyone and their mothers already know that that has ALWAYS been the place to hear about P2P and even Kent has always shared this.

What is the link dannyboy or may be I cannot see it?
May be you prefer to let me know via PM and if I posted something like that I will remove it if still possible.

I have included a collection of posts which reference me with respect to P2P for which I am responding. There are many red flags popping up at P2P, for which people are either ignoring or are just too naïve to notice. I sincerely hope all of the problems are resolved in a timely fashion, and if this program is legitimate, that it is allowed to continue on.

MyGirl123 I certainly hope it is something like that. Ever since GoldKitty popped up here (however briefly) and now at MMG, I have felt uneasy about it. For those of you who haven't seen her 'in action' before, I have, in the CEP thread at MMG. She has way too much knowledge of all this legal stuff and I think she may work for the SEC herself ...
Please ignore her if she asks questions at MMG - maybe she will go away?
Meanwhile, I hope the site will be up again soon, just for my peace of mind ... I want to believe P2P is untouchable but even if everything is perfectly legal, there will be 'elements' out there trying to destroy it.

Well MyGirl123, or can I call you Anneke? No by ignoring me, I won’t just go away and no I don’t work for the SEC either. I don’t care nor want any acknowledgement of my presence by you. Maybe I have way too much knowledge because I am way too intelligent for you to grasp. Maybe you can grasp this: There are no forces at work that are trying to destroy P2P. The only one that is going to destroy P2P is Nicholas, if this program is not legitimate. Maybe some good advice you should heed is that you should maybe invest your time into education rather than writing blogs designed to lure in innocent people so that you can profit from referral fees with your minimal investment. Do the names Lee and LaDora ring a bell for you? You sure promoted that scam.


consumingfire Don’t worry about GoldKitty (Christine) She's either a Lawyer, works for one , or is studying to be one.

She also lost money in CEP so she claims. But maybe she does work for the SEC.
Doesn't matter....P2P is offshore and doesn't sell securities so the SEC can't do squat.

Well consuming fire [edit]personal attack removed[/edit] I think your assessment of me as someone who is studying to be a lawyer is mixed up. I think you are confusing me with your friend at ASA, Butch. Do you really believe my name is Christine? You appear to believe you are some type of super sleuth. Unfortunately, you are not.

You actually believe “P2P is offshore and doesn't sell securities so the SEC can't do squat� I have news for you. YOU ARE WRONG. The SEC has a very close relationship with the OSEC and if Nick is operating a scam that involves US citizens, the SEC can certainly do more than squat. Because Nick claims he is not selling securities does not make it so. He most certainly is selling securities. Educate yourself as to what the legal definition is of selling securities.

Mountain56 I find it interesting that shortly after GK's attempt to stir up trouble here, that Nick gets hit with an "investigation"

We really need to be careful about what we USA folks say and who we say it to.

Contrary to what some people think, the Govt. does have a vested interest in keeping the citizenry dependant on them. By keeping the vast majority of the citizens poor or middle class, the Govt. creates the need for, services for the middle class and sustainance for the poor. Thus the need for more taxes and therefore more power for the Govt.

The sad thing is, that the majority of people aren't very smart, and they will elect the politicians that will give them the most services and benefits. Instead of trying to earn things for themselves, it is easier to have the Govt. give it to them.

We here in the USA should never underestimate the power of our Govt. or the control over our lives that they have.

We should also never underestimate the lengths the Govt. will go to keep that power and control.

Please everyone, protect yourselves and educate yourselves.

Sorry about the soapbox, but P2P is the best thing to come along on the internet since the internet started. We need to take steps to make sure that we are able to capitalize on it, both now and in the future.

Thanks to Nick for the P2P opportunity. I hope it can help everyone who needs it.

Ron

Now we have Ron a/k/a Mountain56. Ron don’t you know when to quit. You were all over the CEP forum [edit]personal attack removed[/edit] I expected you to be cheering the P2P in full force.

NEWSFLASH Ron; the SEC was not or is not investigating P2P. It is all an untruth. Ask Nick for proof, and I bet he can’t provide it.


b41 rrm7777 (Randy) has a forum located at http://invest-in-you-future.forumotion.com/?262 and he has added folders to accommodate topics and information we can all share regarding the protection and education of ourselves in subjects that should be important to all of us.

I have posted a few things over there that hopefully will be of interest to you guys. As time allows I will post more and I sure do hope you all will participate in the forum.

Also, I hope Bruce and some of the rest of you that have something to share will post helpful information, thoughts and opinions for all us P-2-P members.

There are a few things that I have accumulated in the past regarding the UK which if still of value, I will post. But I also hope that all members from all countries will participate in Randy’s forum by posting information regarding your own country’s tax and financial laws and so on. Since the Patriots Act there are actually laws and regulations that effect all of us world wide, no matter what country we live in.

The more we know the more we can protect our finances, ourselves and I DO firmly believe that our personal protection equals protection for P-2-P, whether directly or indirectly.

Please pass this information on to other P-2-P member's who may not read this. You do have my permission to send this to anyone in your down lines.

b41 Well, I am glad I don't have to reboot my computer. I am sure it is not anything to be concerned about with P-2-P site.

I remember that GoldKitty posting 1 post on here trying to stir up trouble, at least that is what it sounded like to me and I thought that was pretty tacky. I can't remember their exact words but something like doesn’t this sounds familiar.

MyGirl123 probably has some very good advice to simply ignore this GoldKitty, here or anywhere else. Authority and SEC snitches are all over and of course they want you to think they are your best friend and looking out for your well fair as they gain information from you and so on. Naturally, they will always guard their identity as they seek out yours and they have the means to do so. ;-( IMHO, it is not good to even associate with these kind of people.

It looks like bwise has reinvented itself to become b41. Personally, I believe you are tacky and personally, you make me sick. I see you are once again giving advice on how to structure currency, launder money and attempt tax evasion like you did on the CEP forum, but this time it is on the MCF, which forum, incidentally, is owned and operated by a citizen of the USA, who comes under SEC jurisdiction. You just can’t get over the fact, that I shot you down on CEP with all your paranoid conspiracy theories and your guidance to people on how to structure currency and launder money. I guess you forgot all the materials you sent me about currency structuring. Please keep it up, because I guarantee you there are other people other than me who have noticed you. Just curious, with this site, you are no longer using Christianity to promote yourself like you did in CEP. I guess the Christianity angle went out the window with your pal Trevor and CEP.

FYI I am not here to participate in a popularity contest and certainly have no interest in being your friend and you don’t need anyone to provide me with any information. Any information I need I can get on my own. I think that fact should be pretty obvious. I think it is a good idea to not associate with people like you; people who pretend to care, but in reality are only looking out for their own best interests and crave any type of audience, and blabber on as if you really have a clue about the workings of government and the USA, which you don’t. Do you even care that all your ill-informed advice can get some people in a lot of trouble. I can’t believe a member of the USA even allows you to post what you do on his forum. I am waiting for Bruce since you were so kind to put him right into the radarscreen to post how he tweaks his taxes at year end to arrive at zero income.

Oh, and bwise just to let you know I am not now or ever was any type of snitch. You just keep incriminating yourself with your words all over bwise there is no need for a snitch. You are your own snitch and if they want you, they certainly can easily get you. You think I am some sort of a hidden government horse, but just wait until the real government officials come after you. They absolutely hate and love to prosecute people like you who organize and attempt to rally people to rise up against the USA.

QUOTE(Brian @ Nov 14 2007, 08:36 PM) Brian

Private program with a private member only forum is the only way to go.

Anyone that has a direct line to Nick please forward these thoughts.

Being private on these two fronts does not mean that we are closing to new members it simply would mean that any new members would be invited by existing members.

This way we can fly back under the radar of Governments, "Golden kitties" "yes she was the start and end to CEP's problems" and any other entities that want to do us harm.

WHY play around with P-2-P, Nick's, and our future well being as a group.

We can grow just as well being private on both fronts, by personal invites to people we know to be upstanding quality individuals.

Profits12 or anyone else that has some connection to Nick, more then I have --- Please forward these ideas to him.

This is not about halting the growth it is about securing the growth structure and in doing so keeping P-2-P healthy for all of us.
Thanks from Brian

Well Brian you have no clue what you are talking about. I do not work for the Government, but I do have friends in high places. Your forum certainly can be made private, but it is too late to keep the public out (actually one of your very members who does post, copied all of this and sent it to me) I’ll also tell you another tidbit, one of your biggest braggers on MCF also held the same title at CEP bragging about how much they made, and it was all a lie because this individual has a nice loss and did not receive anything from CEP). Lets not forget to mention your fellow members in your website who want to see Trevor, Clayton and all the rest receive the justice they deserve, and there are also many people who want to make sure all those ill-gotten gains are paid back by people who profited at the expense of others. Sorry to break it to you, but I was not the end of CEP. CEP ended because of your pals Trevor and Clayton. I guess you conveniently forgot that there was only $77,000 left in the bank account when the SEC shut them down. I guess you also conveniently forgot that there are $10,000,000 worth of losses to people, many of whom never received one thin dime. I guess you could care less about those people, because hey, you got your money and that is all that matters. Are you related to bwise a/k/a b41, which person was definitely not in a loss position in CEP. Maybe you are one of the many being sued to return monies that you had no right even receiving in the first place. Maybe you want to consider the above before you start attempting to blame me for the criminal acts of your pals Trevor and Clayton. Maybe you need to develop some compassion for the people they ripped off before you start pointing the finger at me or any other individual. Place appropriate blame where it belongs. I was not responsible for any adverse actions at CEP, but I will guarantee you that I will see this to the end and do everything in my power to make sure the people responsible for this pay and pay and pay and pay.

Its amazing, people want people on their side when it fits THEIR agenda and brings the possibility of money being put into THEIR pockets, otherwise you become some type of government spy trying to shut down legitimate programs. If a program is legitimate and has all the documentation to prove it, they are not shut down. A lot of people have revealed their true colors.

I just got to thinking about something - and I may be WAY off with this - but I remember awhile back someone had approached MrsVIP about adding P-2-P to her income sources, and she completely refused to even consider it. She basically said she felt P-2-P was an HYIP scam.

I wonder if this GoldKitty has some relation to MrsVIP?

~Darwin

No Darwin this GoldKitty has is no relation to MrsVIP. I don’t personally know this individual, but I know about her. Maybe MrsVIP can post her findings about P2P, I would be interested

Has it been revealed the names and locations of these so-called casinos? Has anyone verified that they really exist?

Has anyone verified the so-called connection with Sir Richard Branson owner of Virgin Group?

Has anyone checked with the proper institutions to verify this whole Energy Bank situation?

Has anyone verified that these so-called investigations actually existed that Nick was able to avert?

DEPOSIT ONLY WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. This is a good rule and final rule her.thank you All of you have been scammed before,learn your lessons and DD

Deleted / Edit by me because ... why bother.

Eager to learn, now do you see why we have decided to keep P2P more private?

GoldKitty,

My post has no intention to deny or to show you are lying or just bashing P2P but I seriously need something else from your post above.

Since you say the gov did not try to shut the program down and that what Nick said is not true, then please give us some proof.
I don´t have Nick here to ask but I have you here, reading and posting. You just stated you have important friends who provide information then please share it with us if you don´t mind.

Everything and anything can be said online with no proof. Whether it is from admins or members, and honestly, every time I have the chance, I ask questions.

Questions with the only intention to shed some light and to deal with fact and I think you will agree with me on this.

Thanks

Oh how I hate to sink back into the sludge and post here but anybody that honestly believes that P2P is legit really needs to have their head examined. If Nick was really being investigated by the SEC he would be able to prove it by showing the case info assuming he wanted to share that, but obviously he will not.

You are missing the main point Nick has yet to prove a single thing he says he is doing. Oh his top secret earning machine that can make 2.5% a day hahaha... but he doesn't have to tell anyone what it is.. yet that's believable... come on people give your head a shake...it's not a matter if this program will fail simply when...

I sent email to Nick and left voice messages for him but he did not reply and he won't reply, why? Simply because he knows that I am asking the tough questions that he cant' answer with double talk.

It doesn't sound funny to you that he has had this long term great relationship with the Royal Bank in Canada and of course they suggested to him to open a business account instead of using his personal account, but oddly enough he does it at another bank??? Hmmmm sounds more like the Royal told him to take a hike.. as will the TD when he is reported yet again.

I don't know Goldkitty from a hole in the ground but that was one of the best posts I have ever read on any forum anywhere... I too went to the forum you guys use for P2P and had pretty much all my posts censored... why is that? Because I asked the hard questions... if Nick is investing money legitimately why would he not be able or willing to prove it to his investors? That just simply makes NO sense... oh right it's a secret... good lord... the things people will believe...

Oh BTW if he is operating legally why in the world would he care if he is reported to the SEC or OSEC ???????????