In a word, YES. Glad you made it here. It is your money but know that P2P is currently about 75 calendar days behind in payouts as of today. Their TOS states 5-10 business days. Buyer beware.

Mark

Ok I got it.....just a site that ran it's course....They all die.. Some go up up up though......Just for fun. How long did it run , before the crap hit the fan.. For record keping sake... 4, 5. 8. 9 12 months ????

If you read this before you joined which you should have why did you join. It was there in black and white. I don't have a problem with that clause. This P2P TOS not yours if you didn't agree you shouldn't have joined point blank. No funky wording it's right there plain and simple! Go READ! Cancellation again it's all there!

It is running now, it hasn't stopped running or paying for 18 months . It has survived more than you know, last year it was months behind and got all caught up and it will again. The only crap hitting the fan is in this forum. Noone has ever failed to get paid by this program.




You should have allowed your plan to mature and then you could have withdrawn it. But you were in such a hurry to call Nick a liar and a criminal that you wanted your account cancelled immediately. When you ended your membership you ended any future benefits you might have received, including the money from your not yet mature plan. If you are unable to understand this you should consider asking someone like your mother who can explain it to you face to face(no insult intended, some things are easier to understand if they are explained in person rather than in print. There is no shame in being unable to understand).

Welcome back Mr. Irony.... good to see you're still devolving.





WOW you can almost see Wasylbrytan's nose growing when he tells these whoppers... amazing.. if you go back a few months early 2008 I believe it was.. the TOS of P2P was 48 hours... then as they slipped behind on payments they changed the TOS to the current 5 - 10 business days (which as we see they couldn't do either) but the point being back then all the cheerleaders were coming into the forums going on and on about three weeks almost a month is not really that long because the TOS is for business days so if you take out weekends and carry the 1 they were really only 8 or 9 or whatever days behind.. but NOW that they are so pitifully out of TOS they try to maximize the length in past... the reality is P2P was NEVER months behind in the past, they were around ONE month behind at one point.. and yes they did squeak back into terms somewhere around 9 days for a while.. and it's gone downhill since.

There are PLENTY of people that have not been paid by this program and every time it happens the cheerleaders jump in with there or they must have tried to cheat the system or they must have this or that... more smoke and mirrors for a failing ponzi's die hard fans to try to cling to....

Women and children first boys...



Well at least you can accept your shortcomings, good for you that's the first step.

I normally don't talk to much.

Just want to say, I received 1 more payment todays

P2P Rocks

Well in the interest of full disclosure, care to share what day you requested this payment?

Would be nice to see how much it rocks.... I guess they are back in terms now? You know 5 - 10 business days.

Yes, a bit of focus on the facts would be helpful right now:

Who's been paid, and for what payout request dates?

Last I read, P2P had paid out for 6/29 requests. (I'm waiting for a 7/14 request and two others.)

If your a member of p2p you can go to the private forum and check where they are on payouts. Which is what you were told in ASA when you asked the same question

Certain people keep complaining they want facts and are bad mouthing the program. We have given the facts but they won't listen. Everyone in p2p should be using the private forum and know the facts but here goes again.
Facts on as p2p turns:
Cvkint is not a member and has some type of grudge against nick and any member making money in the program. He wants it to fail and everyone to lose money, just so he can say "I told you so" and he will say it even if p2p would decide to close 10 years from now. He said it would fail months ago and it still hasn't

Mark after making a $100 profit saw that payouts were slowing and tried to pull a fast one and get "HIS" money out and run before the site went down. When he was told he was in profit so there was no refund to be made, he was mad because he canceled his account for nothing. He then goes on with calling nick names like a thief and liar but now denies it. He claim that he can't understand why trying to cheat the system and get money out before his running investment ended cost him all his benefits.

P2P is still running after 18 months. payouts are behind but still being paid. Not one person has been skipped or missed. There are members offering to pay anyone that claims and can prove they have been skipped, but no one has come forward yet. P2P keeps going and going and going and it is upsetting the naysayers because they want us happy members to fail. Again PAYOUTS are still happening, the site is still running and will continue to.
And thats the facts.
Tune in tomorrow when Mark the puppet and cvkint his puppet master add to their arguement. Oh wait! they wont add anything, they will just keep repeating themselves with the same speculations

I would rather read speculations than out right LIES like you post every time your fingers hit they keyboard, but hey that's just me.. you can lie all you want, but can you lie to yourself? Sure seems that way...

Avoid anything either of the troll brothers say.. they never provided a SINGLE fact about any subject in which they post.. plain and simple they are trolls, shills and likely paid ones at that...

how's that for speculation?

Great post could not have said it better myself.

Thanks
Rich

Bravo!

I have never been able to understand why a non member would care so deeply about P2P, the fanatics will have an "O" if this program closes, I myself have passion for something that truly counts in life, I am on a mission to stop cars from driving on the road, so everyday I stand with a sign telling people how much pollution they are creating and fuel they are wasting, I sometimes will try to even block the road, and some people yell at me and flip me off, I don't understand them, those freaks, driving a car down the road, do they not understand what they are doing to this world, they just don't get it, but thats ok because I do, someday I will have my victory, they will see I was right, someday I hope before I die, fuel prices will be so high that they won't be able to drive and I will jump for joy and bounce around yelling "see I was right and you were wrong", then I myself will be able to have that big "O".

Just cant seem to remember when PN promised to do his toilet paper eating act

All the best to those in P2P, and to those the others (some I will consider less fortunate), best of luck in your endevours.

[quote name='jim' post='5011884' date='Sep 16 2008, 08:34 PM']Edit: Personal attacks removed

More exciting news from P2P are around the corner...

I like P2P and want it to keep going. Was just trying to find out where they are on payouts. Forgot that it would be in the private forum. Have had trouble logging into it so mostly read on asa and mmg.

ATTENTION:

All of this back-and-forth fighting between members has to STOP NOW!

NO MORE FIGHTING!
NO MORE PERSONAL ATTACKS!
NO MORE NAMECALLING!

Warnings and "Time-Outs" have been given. Don't YOU be the next one!
MMG has been verrrrrry tolerant in this thread... but that is no longer the case.
MMG Rules will be strictly enforced in this thread from now on.

THANK YOU! Finally some control here... at least I hope so. This was getting really old....

Way too funny. I can't help laughing out loud on this one.

The truth of P2P is in our private forum. Though payment is late, people are still getting paid.

1-July request recieved to STP on 16-Sept, thanks.

How far are payments behind? 30 days?

Thanks

Benjamins4all

Thank you for the warning Yippee, we hope this will be a happy thread, like it used to be, once again.
btw members of P2P, go to the pvt forum to read more info over there

Sadly, they are 77-78 days behind now. Its not getting better either only worse. Do not join unless you enjoy losing money.

Withdraws requested on July 1, 2008 are being paid. Last one showing paid is on September 16, 2008.

Cheers as well!!

hmm... little off topic but how much fuel does it take to supply the electricity we're all using to post on this forum?

Congrats to all getting payouts for July in P2P!

Well I am not sure but my next mission will be to stop people from breathing so much, this would also help with many problems our world is having by doing away with people who use too much air. - I was joking about the fuel mission as well...

Thank you MMG!

I knew you were joking. I was cracking up so hard when I read your post, I almost wet me self. Thanks for the laughs

RIGHT ON!! An excellent post by someone who cares deeply about helping people and improving the world. That's what P2P is all about. More Americans have died in Cars than in War but I have never seen anyone demand that George W. Bush ban cars. I guess addicts need their fix, no matter how much death it causes. What really saddens me is the members who brag about using their p2p earnings to buy new cars. I plan to use mine to buy an exotic human powered vehicle or three.

Why the HECK is it taking so long for you guys to make payouts??? Once again empty promises of paying 2 days in one day. IT\'S NOT HAPPENING!!!!! AND IT PROBABLY NEVER WILL!!!! It seems you\'re experiencing financial problems, hence the reason for the EXTREMELY delayed payouts. It\'s MY money, I have the RIGHT to inquire ESPECIALLY since you guys aren\'t staying true to your promises. Empty promises, empty promises, and more empty promises. I suggest everybody take their money elsewhere. Did you notice what it says on their main webpage? \"Invest with the Best!\" ???? With the BEST??? I can\'t help but laugh. This amateur investment program, not to mention the most rude moderators are far from the Best. I suggest everybody take their money elsewhere. Empty promises.

My Polar Bears Thanks 2 Hula* is making me $$$

I was planning to retire on Labour Day but now it looks like I'll have to wait until Halloween. Either way, it is very little skin off my nose and I think it is ridiculous to jeopardize my financial future by whining about it. Why the Mania about payouts? You almost sound like you think this is an Autosurf or Hyip. Payout delays are the death knell for hyips and surfs but they have no effect on p2p, so chill out and enjoy life for a change. Think about the lovely places to spend your retirement.

I will worry about retirement later. Right now I am planning another fishing trip this weekend, funded by P2P. I love it, I have never done so much fishing as I have this year thank to p2p my weekends are fun again. I can't wait till next summer, because of the flooding all season I haven't been able to take the boat out for water skiing at all this year. Next year I hope not only will p2p pay for the gas in the boat but buy me a whole new boat. I might be dangerous if I retire!

Ever since I was a teenager I dreamed of pedaling a bicycle across Canada but never had the financial means to do it. Now, thanks to p2p, I will retire at 55 with the means to do anything I want. I just hope this old body can take it, lol. What kind of boat do you like? Maybe a few of us p2pers can pitch in for a yacht and several of us can cruise around the world, lol. And we can wave to all the naysayers as we zoom by.

Hey don't say anything bad about P2P or you might have your head cut off! LOL
I don't think you will find any answers in the P2P forum why the payments are late. Payouts will happen when ever Nick gets ready to pay! There are no more 10 day business rule for paying withdraws.

RELAX AND RELAX GUYS AND ENJOY THE DREAM


WE SHOULD ALL STAY OUT OF HERE AND KEEP THIS RETIREMEMNT CLUB PRIVATE LIKE IT SHOULD BE. THE MORE WE TALK THE MORE THE WORLD WILL KNOW AND THE DANGER IT GETS, AND YOU MAY JEOPARDIZE YOUR DREAMS

Well as you have only joined this forum 3 days ago I bet you are not even a member of p2p and just wanted to try and cause trouble, well I got news for you..........you ain't. There are far too many business minded members in p2p who see how good p2p actually is. So what, p2p is a bit behind on the payouts, get over it. If you can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen, but like I said....I don't believe you are a member of p2p anyways.

Every member has a free choice, to stay or go with P2P, so I guess you have made yours, or it can be made for you by P2P.

HS

camidu64 I AGREE WITH YOU .... it's a pity that people will just not take your advice.

HS

I think all P2P members should stop posting here

P2P is Private site with a private forum for its members to discuss.

Let the non-members post negativety, It is better for us.

Interesting... the only thing I've seen regarding any "legal investigation" about P2P is out of North Dakota. I thoroughly searched the OSC site, and found NOTHING regarding Pathway to Prosperity, the only thing P2P related, was part of a street address in a record archive. The only Ponzi related items on the OSC site, were regarding the actual original Ponzi scam, and described the earmarks of such, for the general purposes of helping someone recognize a Ponzi scam. I'll not deny that they are running behind on payments, and that the P2P Energy Bank is not running yet, however, I could also see that the Energy Bank setup process could very well be full of potential security and legal snags and hangups in and of itself that would need to be overcome. Further, if this is supposed to be a Ponzi, why would they even try to set up a debit card system for its members to be able to directly draw money from their accounts, so they wouldn't need to fumble with STP (Solid Trust Pay)? It takes a LOT of convincing for a company to set up a card that is VISA or Master Card, and thereby accepted world wide as a legitimate debit/credit card. The banks involved have to do a lot of work in going through the credit of the company, no matter how much money they have, before they can be approved to have their own VISA or Master Card logo approved credit card. Another point to mull over, if I'm not mistaken, Ponzi and H.Y.I.P. scams rely on a continuing influx of members to prolong their lifespan. The more members they can bring in, the better. Then, why would P2P state that when the membership level reaches 60,000 members, they will no longer accept members, so the program may retain its value? Think about that statement/question for a minute, if a Ponzi requires more and more people to come on board to keep it going, why cut it off at what would be considered to be such a low number? Second, what value would a legitimate program have, if everyone (i.e. millions upon millions of people potentially) could join? The second question I just posed, essentially answers the first, and visa versa. Logic dictates, that in order for a "private investment club" to retain its "value", only a limited number of members can be allowed to take advantage of the program. If everyone can come in, then no one has a financial edge over another person. It has a similar effect to raising the minimum wage and inflation, it raises the financial poverty line. Hence, if everyone were able to join, then instead of the poverty line being at (for the sake of argument) $16000 a year income, it may be raised to over $150000 a year, or more, the sky being the limit, as the masses flock to join this seemingly perfect program, to try and get ahead. The economy would fall on its face in a manner similar to how Germany did after WWI. Money would become meaningless, having lost its value (not that isn't already happening in and of its own accord within the U.S. economy, perhaps the BIGGEST Ponzi of them all, being a fiat monetary system as it is). Any investment is a risk, even "blue chip" stock investments can bomb out. I look at it this way, if you invest a minimal amount into this and it pays out, pull your initial amount back out once the money has come to term, then reinvest the interest. If it continues to pay out, then great, you've gained money. If it falls on its face after you pulled the initial amount out, then fine, you've lost nothing. The same would apply in my opinion, to any gains made in the stock market, invest at a low number, when it seems to be reaching its peak, pull out your initial investment amount, and let the interest ride, letting it take the hit rather than your initial investment capital. Until I see more information, such as papers of injunction from the U.S. Attorney General, FBI, or the OSC, for operating a fraudulent activity within their juristiction, I'll hedge my own bets. I'm also checking with the Better Business Bureau (a step that I recommend with all potential investments) personally, after speaking to an acquaintance a second time after initially telling him about P2P, who told me that, whereupon mentioning it to his wife, she contacted the BBB, and they stated that it is a legitimate company, and "on the up and up", as he put it to me.

Hello, thank you state your mind regarding P2P. It has paid me out twice in the 5 figure each time. I went in full force and maxed out my account on the first 60 days plan. Yes, they are a bit behind but hopefully it will get better witht he energy bank coming online.

Question, where did you read that once they reach 60,000 people, they will close out to new members? Just curious....

Since I live near the river and no where near the ocean I am more into ski boats and fishing boats. I would actually like to have what they call a deck boat. It is an open floor plan like a pontoon boat but with a fiber glass hull so it is also more easily used for skiing as well. Then I would like to have a decent bass boat. However with P2P keeping us a float (pun intended) I would love to go in on the p2p yacht. I would love to do some deep sea fishing some day.

how to earn profit here? anybody can explain to me ?

Well my friend, with p2p our dreams will become real. My first payout will probably take a long time but subsequent ones will be regular. I should be able retire about Halloween or shortly thereafter.
Our friend CVKINT has not been around for awhile, wonder if he got banned?



Reading the information on the website would be a good way to start.

I am not sure why you think subsequent payouts will be regular. The current situation is getting worse and no real plans to make it better. It is taking them roughly 3-4 days to process 1 day’s payouts. They have actually been doing June 2nd since the 18th.

All the promises about 2 days per day haven't happen and they don't even bother to mention, why? At the pace this is going I won't see my payout till sometime next year.

Not what I would call a promising future for a program….

The business only section gives the reason for payments being late. The future looks very promising. Don't jeopardize a lifetime of financial freedom by listening to some loser in a mickey mouse forum. If you max out and invest in 7day plans it might take 80 days for the first payment but then you will get one every week. Even though they may take 80 days, you can request one each week so you only have to wait the entire 80 days once.

Small comfort

Well, there is always the comfort of knowing you can get a refund and escape the pressure if it is too much. But I prefer to wait a couple of extra months till I retire.

This is just plain ridiculous...why wait for 2 1/2 months to get paid...payouts should have been caught up by now at the very least if it was a real biz...Nick has been behind in payments for over 2 months...whatever happened to where Gary said they would start paying 2 days worth of payouts per day...whatever happened to where Gary says we should be caught up in payouts soon? Never happened...why...because there was no money to do that. All lies, and hype so you gullible members would continue to mindlessly dump more of your hard earned money into this ponzi. Anyone with a lick of common sense wouldn't join this pile of crap and wait for 2 1/2 months or more to get their first payout. And now the Energy Ltd coming out? A payment processor? Geez...yeah, whatever!! My advice....stay away from this ponzi monster...a state government is already aware of this ponzi due to complaints...won't be long before the Canadian and US gov. start poking their noses into this too. Nick, Gary, Chris, and Barb better be looking over their shoulders for sure.