Typical cheerleader twisted logic... negative comments from swamp dwellers (BTW you being here would make you one as well) can't bring down something that is legit... I am baffled by the inability of the sheep to grasp that. The only reason P2P is failing is because it was never legal or real to begin with and now time is just catching up to it... or is being 53 days behind in payments all part of Nick's master plan?

Vinman,

Okay, lets put your knowledge to work.

Your friend Gary is getting hit hard here but I may have over looked it but I did not see where you defended him?

Please answer the 5 questions below.

(1) Can you tell us why the payments are over 50 days behind in P2P?
(2) Do you know when payments will be caught to 10 business days?
(3) You say you help others make money in internet programs. Has any of the past internet programs you were in still running besides P2P?
Before you ask the only program I am currently in is making about .5% per month on average.
(4) I read one of your post that said something like P2P would be around another 2 years or more. I may not be exact on the amount of time you said but how do you know for sure P2P will continue operating even one more year?
(5) Doesn't someone always lose in the these internet programs that paid high interest?

I know you going to say something smart here but just 5 questions to answer or not!

Thanks,
Donnie

THAT WAS NOT MY QUESTION. IS ENGLISH NOT YOUR FIRST LANGUAGE?



THAT WAS NOT MY QUESTION, IS ENGLISH NOT YOUR FIRST LANGUAGE?

Wow 53 days late on pamts, I gled I readed before investments here!

If you feel you have to be rude and obnoxious, then so be it. Shouting will not get your questions answered any better.

Assuming English is YOUR first language, why don't you ask the question a different way so we dummies can understand it.

BTW, your anger should be aimed at P2P and their lack of integrity and not at those of us who have exposed it for what it is.

Mark


Donnie, excellent questions. It will be interesting to see if Vinman answers them honestly and objectively.

Mark

It would appear that English is not your first language or that you simply have no desire to have any more light shed on this scam so this is your redirect tactic.

Your question was answered very clearly. You asked why negative posts from the swamp dwellers were "needed" to bring this scam down and both myself and Mark said clearly that if P2P was legit negative posts could NOT have that effect.. so if you were able to read between the lines you would see that negative posts are not needed as they can do nothing...it is a shame we have to spell things out for you in such simple terms.

Who picking on Gary? you leave Gary alone! Dottie quit trying to stir the pot, no one cares about you or what you have to say.
I really can't constitute you meaningless people over here as hitting him hard. Gary is a great person as I said before and what ever crap you have to say means nothing.
We are over at the private forum, if your a member feel free to ask your questions there.


vinman will be glad to answer them in the p2p forum. Come on over there. Oh thats right, your no longer a member, to bad!

BYE

I am going to put more money into p2p!! yay p2p!

Looks like you just can't take the hard questions. You have made that obvious.

How do you know Gary is a "great person"? Have you ever met him? Spoken with him? Even if he is great, Nick certainly is not--at least at this time.

Unless you members get some hard questions answered--at least--then you can kiss the program goodbye. In fact, if Gary were "great", he would inform the members specifically what is happening. That would be a test of greatness.

Mark

We shall see how long your site last, and how many lose money!
Hey theres one for you Dottie, join this admins site. It's sure to be around forever

Don't believe what your read, the pond scum are making it sound worse than it is. weekends and holidays don't count as business days.


Oh yeah, provoke me that will trick me in to playing your pointless game. Whats obvious is even as childish as I am, I am to intelligent for you.
When you actually have a hard question, ask it in the p2p forum. I have not seen a hard question yet.

Mark your not even a member. As a member myself I don't have to answer any questions to anyone. But even if I did, I wouldn't have to answer to you a non member. It doesn't concern you. If Dottie is a member than he has access to the forum and he can ask his question there where it belongs. I will be waiting there for it.


I know many things that you don't. Don't worry your pretty little head.
Thats your opinion of Nick. I feel Nick is doing a great job and I love p2p.

I also noticed one more thing..

20th july I think nick or someone from his team has bought 8 months more dedicated server..Saw that in who.is

That's something we need to notice as well..Guess they have a definite plan in mind..

No offense, just my mindset..

Cheers!!

yes they sure do, it means they are going to be running with the money they have before then, what legit business rents a server for 8 months? Hahaha. most of they use dedicated racks in a DC or do a co-location deal, more so one that makes MILLIONS a month, good lord this info just makes them look even more pathetic... crap I don't make millions a month and I have my own dedicated server and the contract term is more than 8 months... good old Nick, useless as always.

Wonder how long it will be before the Secret Service gets to p2p? They just raided ADs. LOL> Offensive language removed

Well since Vinman did not answer any of the 5 questions you can come to your own conclusion! I was hoping he would.

Donnie, you will notice over time as I have come to, that the kool aid club has a very defined pattern. In the beginning they are in here all the time with their icon filled posts ranting and raving about they got paid again and how they are rolling over, etc.etc... and anyone that questions that is shouted down... as time goes on and the scam starts to fail like this one you will note that all the big players are gone, they have moved on to the next scam they plan to turn into the greatest thing since sliced bread..so they can be in early and make their money and get out before the "true believers" show up...

You will note how quick so many of the current crop of Kool Aid drinkers in here are to just insult people and totally ignore direct questions, because the fact is they don't have any more info than non members do. I have seen the private forum as I have a couple of friends still in this mess and believe me there is NO big secret going on in there and there are NO answers being given just a bunch of lip service to try to scare people into being quiet...it's the same pattern that just repeats over and over again with each scam...

When the believers start trotting out the old stand by, "if you were a member you'd know" they are just running scared as deep down they realize that the naysayers are turning out to be right and there is simply no logical or rational reason for why the program is in the mess it is...then like the program just the other day the other "legit" hot program ASD or something like, was just raided by the powers that be and the complaint has been filled in court, 53 million and nothing to show for it... it will be interesting to read the docs on the P2P complaint when it's filed and we can finally see just how badly Nick has been bending everyone over

Dottie I already answered a couple of your questions a few pages back (please pay attention) and you never answered mine. As far as your 5 questions, your a trouble maker and I am not going to play. If your a member ask at our private forum you can post the answers here if you want, if your not than it doesn't concern you. Besides your questions are flawed and have the wrong info.
Are you a member of p2p?

And you will notice that the naysayers keep repeating themselves page after page with nothing new to say. Thats why the kool aid drinkers only need to post every once in a while to let people know that the program is still running strong.
I have yet to see any naysayer say anything correct about this program. It keep kicking and is moving along still. You keep claiming it will go down on its own but it doesn't. Then you feel the need to keep saying it will go down thinking you will cause it to and it doesn't. Boy the kool aid is great, I keep making money and you keep sulking because your not a member. YAY p2p!!!!!

Hahaha, you mean you are unable to accept that this program is dead all that's left is the burial....carry on

funny that a dead program is still paying and people keep making money. if thats the case I want to join more dead programs.

LOL, I agree, I wish more programs were dead like this one. KOOL AID's on me.

Vinman,
I answered your question a few pages back too! My name is Donnie not Dottie. I gave you an opportunity and you blew it! I made no insults and I did not call you any names other than Vinman.
5 questions and you would not attend to answer them. You say you help people so why not shine some light on what is happening in P2P?

Are you a member? I have asked you a couple times and you refuse to answer

Hahahaha, boy you two are quite the comedy routine, but you might want to keep in mind these forums cache the posts for a long long time and all of this nonsense is going to be ripe for the picking in the very near future... but by all means if this is prime reason for posting to make yourself look uniformed, go ahead.

Exactly your going to look like such a fool for everything you said and not being a member.

I just want to add I received my p2p money to my bank from alertpay yesterday. I just noticed it. I have paid all of my monthly bills. Thats no money out of my pocket this month. I love this dead program YAY p2p!!!

HOW can you tell if I am UNIFORMED? DO you think I am a cop or something? PARANOID, aren't we. Have some Kool Aid and chilll out.

it's so sad that you believe this, or you likely don't really and you are just pimping praying more suckers will put money in so you can cash more out..



Really, so what day were you paid? How many days did you have to wait, no more than 5 to 10 business days right? hahaha... not easy to budget monthly bills when a program is paying two months behind is it??? Very funny stuff you two should keep it up... all us naysayers are so sad to not be in an illegal ponzi with you...

I'm a member of p-2-p and am doing well and very happy making money. I have made more in 6 months with p-2-p than I've made, in total, in 4 years working numerous, "Greatest Programs", to come along since sliced bread.
Is it going to do what I expect it to? Who knows. The amount I spent to buy in, has given me more pleasure than when I spent about the same amount over a long weekend with my wife at a beautiful Resort and gave her MY credit card, LOL. She's my "Trophy Wife" and her spending that weekend, still didn't match MY P-2-PPROFITS. :y:

norym

Facts - P2P is currently paying out June 14, request now. If my figures are correct that is 54 days from the request.

Take away 15 weekend days and that comes to a total of 39 business days. Again if my math is correct!

39 business and counting! I ask again how will Nick catch up payments to 10 business days?

There is no insults here just a question to anyone that knows.

Someone keeps posting on this forum referring to me as someone else. Treat me with respect and I will do the same for you. If you read my prior posts I have made you see I have answered your questions and maybe you should do what you told me to do and that is to pay attention.

Donnie

Donnie, expect no good answers from the cheerleaders that check in here from time to time. They are basically telling you to go to the private forum to get your questions answered.

The issue with that is that your questions will most likely go unanswered there as well!

Based on logic and common sense, the payouts are stretching out further in time because the well is running dry, so to speak. As long as a few payouts continue, P2P has a chance to take in additional funds. No one--yes, not even Vinman--knows exactly how much is being paid out each day. Only Nick knows for sure.

While members wait "patiently" for payouts, Nick could very easily be living large while he plans his next "venture". It's all speculation but that applies to both sides of the coin.

Sad to say, if you want answers, you're just going to have to wait like the rest of the members.

Mark

I would never call all the brilliant members that had the foresight and courage to risk a little money in this program the name you are calling them. You are getting very tiring with the way you keep repeating yourself over and over. Sorry your not in the program, those of us that are in it will continue to make money, while you continue to keep saying the same thing again and again.

I don't know what pimping is, but I do pray everyday. I praise god and I thank him for such a great program p2p and for all the wonderful people involved in it including Nick.


I had to wait as long as it took. Sure better to get paid late than to never get paid at all. I love p2p.
It is very easy to budget my monthly bills weather a program is current or not. I don't count on any internet money to ever pay for anything. Its all extra money. like I said, that means no money out of my pocket this month. If your budgeting yourself on what you think your going to make online then you are very foolish to do so. Investments on or off line should not be counted on as income till it is in your pocket. Look how many people lost everything after 9-11 because they relied on investments.




I give everyone respect until they lose it. Then they have to earn it back. You lost it along time ago with your shady tactics. But thats a whole other story that I care not to get into.
You still haven't answered my question, pay attention.
Are you a member of p2p?


Nor did I ever claim to.


Attend to answer? is that english?
You gave me a chance and I blew it? What exactly did I blow?
Are you a member or not? it an easy question.

The truth remains consistent no matter how many stories P2P has to come up with to keep the faithful quiet. Let's see, the energy bank, not investing in FOREX, investing in FOREX, casinos, the long lost IKEA fortune, need to train more people to catch up on payouts...if Nick get's abducted by aliens how many more days will that set back payouts?

Yes, naysayers keep saying the same old things, because once a scam, always a scam, some just are a little slower to see the truth.

Some just keep forgetting that its been paying every month despite all the bs haters post.

yep, just like PIPS, CEP, Mininvest, ad nauseum......

This program has been around for quite sometime. A friend of mine was asking if it is safe to join now?

No, it's not safe. Payments are nearly two months behind now. Pay in now and your money will be lost.

Yeh listen to ponziey you will go far maybe even eat a toilet seat

If you don't want to listen to PN, etc., it's understandable. I don't like how most naysayers come across either.

But perhaps you might listen to what Nick (whom you obviously trust enough to trust with your money) himself said about a similar situation with another program not so long ago?

This will be the last time I post here because the amount of idiots here posting nonsense is crazy, its paying and has been paying so shut up.

What is quoted in your post above this one is from Nick? Where was it posted? I'm just curious.

So even Nick "invests" in other Ponzis? Am I understanding this correctly? A multi-millionaire who wastes his time on Internet games. Interesting.

What is striking is how rude he is by typing in all caps. It's also hypocritical that he is the pot calling the kettle black. In any case, Nick is clearly a piece of work.

Mark

http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Yourdailygo...31#entry3555631

To be fair, it could have been Diane who posted that since rddirect ID seems to be used by two persons who call themselves Nick and Diane the admin team.

Well it sounds like "Nick" or whoever the hell they are was just like the people here who invest in ponzi schemes at one point. It would seem reasonable to conclude that once you're involved with crap like this and you realize it's a scam that screws people out of their money and a few get out having made some of that extremely unethical money, one of a few things happens:

1). You become a "naysayer" and try to stop others from being screwed over (I can't really see the motivation to do it just so others can't make money, which has been ludicrously suggested in one of the
posts here).

2). You understand how the scam works and promote it in order to leech more money out of unsuspecting people turning yourself into a "cheerleader"/"kool aid drinker" (the kool aid thing I have no idea where it comes from but I get the jist.... maybe it's cause kool aid is a terrible drink). You become the person who consistently floats in and out of these scams making what money you can when you can off of the hopes and dreams of other people, pretty "courageous" investing if you ask me.

3). You turn into Nick, someone who was probably so obsessed with becoming a tool for a similar ponzi that he figured he'd get back what's due by repeating the torrid cycle and milk everyone through what is perhaps the saddest testament to human greed ever, the insanely easy way to make money for doing absolutely nothing but transfering a few dollars into someones account and seeing it magically double without any proof of what's causing the company to grow.

Pssst, the secret ingredient.......... is other people's money and dreams.

But at least we can all take back one lesson, that giving your money away to someone without anything but a little faith that somewhere out there is a self sacrificing soul like "Nick" who just wants to help out the little guy who can't afford much more than a hundred bucks to lose, well gosh darnit, YOU CAN lose that money and unless you know it, YOU WILL!

Yes now paying from june 15th i understand. so do you blame anyone for not wanting invest here? after all its middle of august! Edit: hijacking

In all fairness to Nick/Diane/whatever their names are, p2p would have never taken off without Kent Black et. al. from the MCF.

Nick/Diane seems to be a patsy for the big promoters who direct their followers towards one program or another. He/she doesn't sound like someone who would have had the wits or the start-up money to make the program last as long as it did.

If you pay attention to rddirect's older posts on MMG, one of the MCF moderators (a banned MMG member candyland) has some posts in those threads as well. That's probably what started p2p in the direction that it ended up now.

Several hundred of us who spoke with Nick know all about his involvement in small online ventures and we know the reason for it. What you say is not news to us. GET A LIFE!! STOP MAKING UP GARBAGE WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!

Oh come one, he was crying like a b1tch with a skinned knee over a $7 payment, whining every third post in th thread for his payouts, it's pretty obvious he was just another ignorant HYIP player (and a pretty small scale one at that) who got tired of getting scammed and decided to start stealing direct from members instead of letting the crook admin of his then current "investments" do it for him.

This post might have a little more credibility if you actually knew what you were talking about. There should be a rule against deliberately posting FALSE INFLAMMATORY GARBAGE such as you have done. It's hard enough for unsuspecting newbies trying to make decisions without all you grudge holders jealously posting slander about Nick. Yes, Nick did play hyips at one point, but the rest of your post is nothing but hateful conjecture.

There is a rule, that's why some of YOUR posts are edited by the moderators.

Or are you calling quotes from Nick's own posts false and inflammatory? If so, you are better off to take it up with Nick for posting garbage.

Your own posting history is quite telling as well and any newbies would be best advised to review the histories of ALL people who are enticing them to spend their money.

As well as checking the history of the same people constantly crying, before they would listen to them telling them they shouldn't get in a great program.
Yeah I see your point, don't listen to the people that are making good money and are actually in the program. Listen to the people that are jealous and non members. Makes perfect sense

Yes, that too.


Yep, they shouldn't listen to anyone who needs someone else's money to make theirs.

You would not be here if you didn't need their money. You would be on the p2p private forum kissing Nicks arse instead.

This is the type of thing I am talking about:

Nick/Diane seems to be a patsy for the big promoters who direct their followers towards one program or another. He/she doesn't sound like someone who would have had the wits or the start-up money to make the program last as long as it did.

If I were to post something similar to this I would get warned for sure. But it seems censorship within this forum is selective.



Again, more lies, I have never once enticed people to spend their money anywhere in this forum. But why do you care, you are not the one being censored.

So where are all those people making that good money in Pathway to the poorhouse?

Would everyone that has been paid within the last 5 to 10 business days as stated in the TOS please post so we can get a feel for how well this program is working..

Ok no need to be so harsh how about posting if you've been paid in the last month?

Ok, if ANYBODY got paid anything due from July post here. I mean we are at Aug. 12th, so all but the last few days of July should be paid out....

Yup quality program by a quality con man

Hi, I just stumbled upon this forum and after reading some of the points put forth I feel I have to say something. It may not do any good. Proverbs talks about the futility of attempting to reason with a fool, but I'll press on.

First, I've been with P2P since Oct. 07. I've invested over $1600. so far, I've received over 11,000 with the last payout on the 4th of Aug.

Anyone could write and say, "this is a lie or a ponzi or Nick's a whatever, all I know is that for years I've lost money on the internet (since 4 Daily)and now I'm not.

The term ponzi gets thrown around a lot but Social Security is a huge ponzi in one group paying for another. What's the big deal? It's illegal? And I might as well go here too, the reason SSA is almost bankrupt is that we chose our future by executing the unborn through "abortion." Our "choice!"

Anyway, I and many others are getting paid albeit slowly at this time. You can deny it, whine and complain, say it isn't so, and get angry and cuss, but I and others have been "shown the money!"

And if P2P goes belly-up tomorrow I'll still have made money and will be looking for the next one.

Vinman, always a pleasure to hear from you!

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