You really believe that Nick doesn't already know that his own program is being discussed by his own members on MMG?

where can I access this p 2 p website to invest????

p-2-p is mostly private now so you will have to be introduced by a p-2-p member and instructed how to get started

Geesh how does this tripe get started, ANYBODY can open a P2P account, there is NOTHING private about this scam and you don't need a referrer.. you know just saying something doesn't make it so.. I just opened yet another account five minutes ago to prove it could be done...of course I'll let it get deleted in ten days as I don't need it, but why do people try to pretend there is anything private about this program...it's as wide open as always..

Man, that kind of stuff creates massive headaches for the support staff. it helps if people join with someone who can show them how its done. don't you have better things to do?

Are you kidding me? Of course they have nothing better to do. I have never figured out why they do it. I wouldn't waste one second trying to convince someone a program is a scam. If someone wants to invest money into anything that is their business. If they lose it most understand the score. I just ignore the naysayers and continue to make money.

Only if you go with a third-rate php programmer. A professional script should have an internal clock that deletes inactive accounts after a designated period of time. Why should the support staff have to worry? They shouldn't have to manually delete every account.

I mean that members joining without having someone show them how things are done creates massive support staff headaches and continuous redundant questions that can easily be answered by an upline who is earning a nice sum to be that upline. the p-2-p script does have automatic pending, suspension, and eventual deletion when an account is not active.

When I said " that kind of stuff " I really meant to say - that kind of thinking...

Pity you do not take care of your own scam program, and as for your integrity NOT being for Sale, you have not got any in the first place to sell or you would not be in here making hillarious statements, you talk about other people in here being idiots, take a step back and look at yourself, you are so busy being so self righteous about other programs and play silly games opening five accounts, for what, just so you can play the court jester and use numerous usernames, you can't even take care of your own business so why should anyone want to believe what you have to say, I sure don't.

Try acting more like a responsible adult instead of attempting to manipulate people into your way of thinking.

HS

From MCF:No payments - Nick 'unwell' - very typical endgame - not showing much imagination but it's a tried and tested way to bow out...

Commiserations to all those who lost money in this one - please try to learn a lesson from the experience - all these HYIPs, autosurfs, etc., are Ponzi scams and you are always far more likely to lose money than make anything - move away completely rather than onto yet another scam which will only end just as this has.

PonziNemesis, The problem is if someone honest enough tried to prove you wrong you would call that one a cheerleader or something of the sort. But you should reason with your own logic, how can a program survive for ,say three months only, with selective payments. I am a member of P2P, I was not referred by anyone, I don't have a very close friend in this program, in fact, I feel myself an outsider, yet I have been constantly paid and am still getting paid. I have never pmed any of the mods, I don't even have a slight acquaintance in the P2P circles, so I can't feel myself privileged. If they were making selective payments I don't see a point in paying 'me' because I am not one of them nor I do them any service. As for STF link you provide, I don't think it proves anything, that is just pure controversy. I know perhaps you would present yourself as a proof that they don't pay, but then there must be something wrong you would have done. Perhaps you were hard-headed towards their rules. Look, I don't wanna get into a verbal quarrel with you, but pal, your post looks just a result of 'prejudice'.

And by God, just a couple of days of no payments and you are already condoling with us P2Pers for the loss of our money. I wonder how many members are there in P2P who are not already in profit. So what have they got to lose? And even if they shut down(God Forbid) this program, initial deposits hold a guarantee. But perhaps all this logic and reason don't mean anything to you. I would not say that you are of an anti group, but I guess you did something wrong, failed to observe their rules, tried and chose to go out of chain of command and landed yourself on the other side of safe.

So stop bickering because payouts have resumed..........hahahaha!

Great Post and I agree!!

Praise

Will there be a video of the "toilet eating"?

I thought it was due in the middle of June. Or has it been moved to the end of June?

P.S.

How does one eat a toilet??

It's too late for any of that. This one is going down the pan fast - no cheerleader can persuade anyone otherwise now.


Easy. By having a private forum - complain and every sign of you is deleted.


Most of the smaller players have been paid thus far as I understand it; I wouldn't read too much into your having been paid thus far. But the tide is turning now - we have reached the full blown vicious cycle where payments are so late that nobody wants to pay in and it is collapsing right in front of our eyes - just watch what happens over the next few days and you'll see it clearly for yourself however much your wishful thinking would like it to be otherwise I'm afraid.


I provide it 'as is'; of course it doesn't 'prove' anything, it's simply a piece of evidence - you have to make your own deductions from it.


I have never invested a cent in this or any other Ponzi scam. I'm not posting here because I've lost money, I'm posting because you have, or are about to, depending on how you look at it. I can see what is happening and want to warn those who think this is real - the more people who work out that this is a scam and stop paying in the fewer will lose money - I wish more had listened - about 10,000 or so joined over the last month alone!


At any given point in time most people are always not in profit - that's how these things work. Certainly the 10,000 or so who just joined will still have their funds all tied up, and I expect about half of the rest will be keeping more in than they've had paid out, hoping to 'max out' and make a fortune in a few months' time. Ponzis are fueled by greed, causing people to take risks that they can't afford which is very sad when things go horribly wrong as they always do.


WAKE UP! Nick is a thief; that 'guarantee' is worthless!


So he makes a few payments to keep the funds coming in a while longer - do you realy believe he's making them from his sick bed? It's so sad - I've seen it play out just exactly the same so many times - I hope you can afford to lose what you have in there now as it has almost certainly gone...

EDIT: I don't see much evidence of payouts resuming - from MCF:

This is one dead Ponzi scam!

v-e-r-y carefully.



Then use some of that toilet water to wash it down
sorry couldn't resist.

Carry on denizens of this here mmg p2p thread

cvkint, Is this really you? http://blog.worldvillage.com/sys/bio/traderj.html

*sigh*

What is all this??? I have never herd so much bull. I came in here to see if there was any news, As the forum at P2P seems to be down. Yet all i read is BS!! You people are of no help, just complaining over and over. I will go see if i can find some real news wile you all just keep up what ever it is you are doing. This forum is a waist of time.

So - Nick is making the occasional payment, but they are taking three weeks now (taken from MCF):



Down the pan it goes - commiserations to all those who've lost money here.

*urp*

Ponzie Edit: Personal attacks / name-calling

And Edit: Personal attacks / name-calling

You seem a little touchy, boyo! Do you have a lot of money in there? Or are you worried, perhaps, because you've referred all your friends and family into this (cough) 'program'? Worried about what you're going to say to them when it becomes obvious it's all lost, are you?

One day you'll finally discover that there is no shortcut to making money. Your dreams of sitting back effortlessly earning from some miraculous online opportunity that drops into your lap are just that - dreams.

Yachy da,
PN.

A sure-fire sign that a program is toast is when the only replies I get are insults .

LOL, you've been getting insults the whole time, so now isn't anything special.

He's also been right the whole time

That is true. The only ones that don't give him insults are the other old cronies just like him. P.N thinks he is the renowned world expert on ponzi's. Haven't you read he is never wrong? LOL.....AND WHEN HE SAYS A PROGRAM IS DEAD IT IS OFFICIAL. Too bad you missed the boat on this one . It's going to spoil your percentages.


UP UNTIL NOW!

Have you not noticed that the forum has been down for a while, payments are later than ever, more and more people are crying 'foul!' as they find they have been ripped off, and that the p-2-p website is down completely now?

Do you really think your funds are safe in there? Do you think Nick's 'guarantee' means anything? You have an awful lot to learn!

The insults in this thread are not acceptable.



Obviously, you don't all agree with each other, and that's fine. You are all free to have a difference of opinion and support your beliefs.

However, if you're simply going to quote a post and reply with "You're a {Insult}," then don't even bother posting at all!

ah c'mon..let's not start that whole hail ponzi nemesis bit


The whole mythical - legendary - romanticized "I've never been wrong" bit is really getting old.

Let's just wait shall we?



I do recall PN mentioning it'll be all over by the end of june.






actually, it's up.

I just checked.

yeah yeah...I know-- so they can take in more funds.

Well, if PonzieNemesis has such a good reputation about smelling ponzis I strongly believe all those monitors and such sites are just a waste of time and effort. Why don't you folks subscribe to PonziNemesis's newsletter at the comfort of your mailbox and don't ever take the trouble surfing net to find the truth. I am sorry, I am not of such beliefs because this kind of formal education maybe make you a living but self-education might make you a fortune and thats the code of daring ones.

I would not let anyone go see my wife and hide behind the curtains to see how it is done. I would rather do it wrong myself. If this know-it-all PonziNemesis was such an authority he would not have made such juvenile remarks. Site goes down and he makes a noise, Nick promises DC and he makes a noise, forum goes down and he makes ....... . What do you expect an admin of a program to do, if he wanted to make some adjustments to the forum to accommodate a section for Energy Ltd., or DC, how is he supposed to accomplish that without pulling it offline?

Surely Ponzi here does not know of such niceties, the Mr. know-it-all, and no wonder that he is only a critic and not a program owner.

I would say don't just ridicule yourself by pointing out that the site is down while you know fully well that it would not remain offline for very long. In fact, the site came back up, payouts were halted, they have resumed, forum is down but not for all, some parts of the world are still seeing it, so what more alligation do you have now?
Peace

PonziNemesis, how dare you call a 10000 $ investment small or its payout? Perhaps you gotta get your imagination repaired or simply have your head examined.

Your reasoning is ridiculous. P2P just went private and it was a few weeks ago that we have got our own private forum. Certainly ban to access such exclusive and specific material gnaws away at your jittering mind.

I don't only depend on P2P for my online income....I have read somewhere :Winners never quit and quitters never win, which seems to be your case. You will never win because you have quitted hope. Your logic alone is enough to show you the mirror, you said it is going down to pan very fast and at the very same time you say that only 10000 joined in the last month. Is it going down or up? Even if it is a ponzi such influx of members and their funds would not make the program owner to run away, even he can play the game yet for more longer time. So 'going down the pan in a few days' is proved wrong by your own reasoning, if there is one.

My point about the 10,000 new members is that this has only kept going because of new money coming in. All those people will lose everything, along with all of the rest who have kept funds in here rather than pull everything out. There will be a few who got their initial stake out, and are simply 'playing with house money', but even they may lose if a receiver is appointed and everyone has to pay all profits back in (as happened with e.g. CEP).

Payments are at 21 days now and continuing to slip. Watch how it slips to 22, then to 23, then 24; as the rate of slip increases so will the panic, more people will try to draw their funds out rather than reinvest their funds and the rate of slip will increase. Pathway-2-prosperity is a train wreck in slow motion. It's sad to watch, especially reading the gormless posts over at MCF where the true believers simply keep chanting that there is nothing to worry about when clearly there is.

For those who haven't seen it before, welcome to the world of Ponzi meltdown.

Evidently either you have been in too many ponzis or you have no idea of justification of an honest person dealing with ordeals. When you ain't seen enough you take little for much. Psyche' of very little or altogether unworthy investor is to make noise because he or she knows that nothing much is at stake. But when you have got in on the years in this business you tend to develop a tendency of patience and contentedness which adds to your maturity and you don't go out quoting out of context posts. I gather from your excerpts copy/pasted from MCF that Nick & Coy., was simply more than justified to provide us with a private forum. I would let you clarify as much you care for us newbies or innocent users' money in a program you so forcefully claim to be ponzi as to what kind of logic do you use or is it just your nose instead of a logic? You only smell a ponzi??? And you base all your fretful assumptions of an odor......

What is common between CEP and P2P? Just that they both end with a 'P' ?

Days are rolling over from 22 to 23, 24, 25. Granted. It was more than a month and a half back in 2007 late payouts and by the start of Feb 08 we were all caught up, so this reason is not enough...

Say I have a plan running for 60 days which has 37 days left to be matured as of yet, what do you think I should worry about?

Lemme suggest something to you, dont just wait your time, use it constructively. Either you get on this P2P Train and get yourself a new head therapy, P2P will enable you pay for that, or simply browse forums where too much peacemakers are doing their job pretty well. You are not a part of this program, so stop damaging its repute. Its been paying since a whole year, people have pendings from say 25 days only, surely P2P has paid more than It recieved from members, go perform your math or seek help and if you still are unable to find solace .......I will pray for you.

lmao - too many fools (whether p2p or not) still insist on prayer. If prayer worked sunshine, then the world would not be in the state it is today! LOLOL! We would all be happy and at peace. Take your prayers and do one! Most wars are based on different religous beliefs.


P2P is your type of program due to the cult/leadership mentality. Leader says, then you follow. I cannot be doing with communist programs. What happened to freedom of speach? What will Dictator Nick do if he catches us talking about p2p?


On a brighter note, I got paid! GO NICK! I may think this program will not last, but I want me a piece of the action while it is still hot! Yes call me a hypocrite, but hey...we all like to make money. Shame on you church goers though! Stealing and dishonesty are cardinal sins. Participating in illegal ponzis is not good for the soul. Repent now ye sinners! Whereas me..I dont care if I sin. I eat too much so I am a glutton. I am lustful, full of pride, I get angry and can be envious and jealous. So spank me god for I am evil as I dared to go against your dictatorship! Please please Zoto, pray for me tonight and I will repent. In the meantime, I will send some more of my hard earned cash to p2p. Although, now I am going to play with profit. Also please understand I am only playing with $100. I have me seed money out, so I am now just playing with ponzi profits..ahem, I mean profit!!

PN/Accountant et al, I know you are all right. I know this is a clever ponzi. I also knew 12dailypro was. I also knew that CEP was. I also knew that exec-ads was. But I cant help myself. If it wasnt for ponzis then this industry would NOT exist. I have yet to see ANY program that wasnt a ponzi scam. I like the risk! If I didnt then I would not be involved in this cut throat industry.

LOL!

No payments at all yesterday, none so far today, and the private forum still down - it's toast!

Although parts of your explanation make me cringe, I still have to give you credit as the most honest P-2-P participant I have seen in this thread yet.

Most of the veterans know what to expect. They do it for the risk; the "thrill," as some have put it. They also understand the treachery of the industry. But only a few will actually admit it.

I'm surprised you can still type. I would think the keys on your keyboard would be stuck with the way you get off to this s***.

Is it "against the rules" to advertise your affiliate link?

Actually many people got paid Sunday including my brother. He was paid out 5 figures.

Yes, unless the affiliate link is embedded in your signature.

Posted @ MCF:

Do not access the forum any which way until you hear otherwise from myself, Gary or Nick.

Thanks,
Chris007

This was posted on MCF a couple of hours ago - it has since been removed:


This scam is clearly going down the tubes fast. This would be a good time to make sure you have contact details for whoever referred you into this "program"; you can make a claim against them for your funds which may be easier and more successful than attempting to get any funds back from "Nick".

zzzzz


someone please...the pedestal.

the prophet doth speak

Post like this make me laugh out loud...too good.

Thousands of people are realising they've lost money in a scam and that their only hope to get anything back will be to sue the person who referred them in - probably a friend or relative - and that makes you laugh out loud. I wonder how many of the p-2-p victims are laughing.

Hello Everyone, i bet the homebased business industry will get bigger* Can someone prove me right

Hee hee. I know I shouldnt stir, but sometimes I 'speak' before I think. Cringe?? Me?? Which part(s) made you cringe Ryz?

To be honest, I love the banter. If brainwashed numpties want to quote the bible then so be it. We are here to talk about the program and not some white bearded fella, who incidentally wouldnt have been white surely?? Anyway I digress!!

Heres to P2p

I am astonished that a multi million and maybe billion dollar outfit cant seem to keep a forum up and running let alone a simple website. Has their email quit working as well? Seems to be a serious lack of communication without any real excuse other than money might be running low as evidenced by no payouts for the last couple of days. Will this be day three with no payouts or communication?