My next 60 day investment matured and I've just requested my payout
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My next 60 day investment matured and I've just requested my payout QUOTE The one time I posted in defense of P2P, I was severely INSULTED, or so I was told. Perhaps the rest of us feel insulted that this game is being played off as a real investment when its a hyip that in the non hyip section. While you may have got your feelings hurt I will not have my intelligence insulted by believing in this late paying ponzi. Nick is a ponzi operator and not a God. I find it amusing the sheep cant see this. It will all come out soon enough. there's another 5 minutes of your life right there wasted! what will it take for you to shut up already and come back when the program closes so you can start your "I told you so!" drive? Actually that one took a lot less time, I guess I'll shut up the same time you do QUOTE oh stop it with the lawsuits and stuff, you and i and everybody here knows it ain't gonna happen. stop bringing the FSA, SEC and/or Canadian authorities here as they're not going to listen to any of your drivel... nor will even look at your (or anybody's) case against p2p. Yes you're quite right, did you say that as well to the CEP people now being sued after sending in their info to be verified for THEIR payment processor? Just askin QUOTE he's definitely bitter that we are earning money and he's not. (oh, wait for his usual reply of i don't need the money if it comes from illegal ponzi ****) Interesting so I'm not earning any money? Wonder how it is you know that, oddly enough I'm not bitter in the least, but I guess that's all you can attempt to latch on to so have fun with it. BTW it's "I don't WANT money from an illegal ponzi" try to get "something right.. thanks. You have to admit though that, if it does end up closed, it will have had an extremely good run along the way, You are quite right I have never claimed otherwise... QUOTE making people quite a bit of profit. Making SOME people a lot of money.. and forcing SOME people to lose a lot of money... the only question is did the ones that will end up losing lose it on a level playing field being involved based on honest claims?? QUOTE If I remember correctly, you're in financial services aren't you ? So for the life of me, I can't see what your complaint is. There's many an "offline" financial instituition, that has pulled the "smoke and mirror " trick and taken quite a few more dollars down with it, than this program will. Please don't bring SEC and FSA into it, they're just a bunch of spineless suits that don't have the courage to go for the big boys and hence turn a blind eye, and try and justify their existance by making up new rulebooks on a monthly basis. That's ok I for the life of my don't get why you would NOT see what the problem is... so that makes us equal I guess. Wow you aren't really going to trot out the anti government rant are you? Haven't see that one used in quite a while... QUOTE Are you bitter because you tried to get into the program early on in a big way, and wanted some proof of return and it wasn't forthcoming, so you started this crusade ? Is that the best you can do? All you have to do is read this thread through and see that after I had my proof this thing was a scam I barely posted at all... it hasn't been until the last little while I have offered my opinion... crusade? Hahaha...ok whatever works for ya... QUOTE When P2p closes people will move on to the next "big one" that's the nature of the game are you going to crusade onto the next one ? A fruitless exercise in my opinion. Well King Canute didn't learn either, did he ? I might move on to the next one I might now.. depends on how many people I know that are personally getting hurt that I can effect change for them... and with all due respect what YOU see a fruitless exercise really has no bearing on my POV or actions...but thanks for offering it anyway. Good to see you posting again.
Its always interesting to read all points of view. To make things clear I am a ney sayer, however I always try to see things from both sides...and then from a third party removed.
So here is my question to the cheerleaders. Lets suppose...now I am not saying it is but lets suppose this thing is a ponzi for just a minute. Lets make the circumstances surrounding your investment that you had invested knowing there was a possibility this may be a ponzi and you have referred your neighbors young daughter the age of 23 lets say and she dropped in a tidy sum. This thing goes belly up and she gets scalped. Mean while you have cleaned up...man I mean cleaned up..4x your investment. Is it possible you just dont feel some what responsible and personally feel bad for your neighbors daughter ? I mean after all she lives right next door. You have to face these people several times a week and thats with trying to avoid them the best you can. So lets switch gears here. Your investing in this and cleaning up just as stated above. Only now this thing goes belly up and all the people that got in last get scalped. Is it possible you just dont feel bad at all now because of the anonymity or would you have the same bad feeling as if it were that girl next door ? So lastly lets suppose your that girls father next door. What do you think of all the people that made money in this thing ? I have a sneaking suspicion that if no one person playing these things could play under the cloak of anonymity they wouldnt have that " gimmi mine " an screw everyone else if they got in to late attitude. I dont think all cheerleaders are bad. There are some that believe this is a real investment and have been told that by what I call "THE PLAYERS " Now for them it will truly be a sad day. Many hopes and dreams lost....just not funny. As for the PLAYERS....well I think you petty much know what I think of you guys. Steal money, hopes and dreams from people that dont deserve that....not good.
P-2-P is sending out so many payments that Solid trust pay is backlogged daily in sending all of the money home to the members
No joke my friend was paid to his stp the other day for 37k This is my statement of fact here on this forum today. I will not be back to read what the negative attitude folks have to say about this
Pay in to p-2-p today and some of your money will go to paying out those STP sums, and most of it will go into Nick's pockets. But by the time it's your turn to get paid it'll have imploded and you'll get nothing, mark my words.
P-2-P is sending out so many payments that Solid trust pay is backlogged daily in sending all of the money home to the members No joke my friend was paid to his stp the other day for 37k This is my statement of fact here on this forum today. I will not be back to read what the negative attitude folks have to say about this Got paid again today. I think I'm gonna retire from this forum as well. The negative people are just wrong and I actually feel kinda sorry for them. Bye. Got paid again today. I think I'm gonna retire from this forum as well. The negative people are just wrong and I actually feel kinda sorry for them. Bye. Thanks for feeling sorry for us, I am assuming you are including me in that group. Too bad you won't be here to answer a simple question... why do you consider it negative to ask questions and expect real answers with PROOF? I don't see anything negative about that, why do you? So what was the pending date on your payment? That far off that don't want to say haha... As for the poster making a "statement of fact" until you can show the proof of STP or any other third party company's records your facts are nothing more the hearsay...but hey nice try. Got paid again today. I think I'm gonna retire from this forum as well. The negative people are just wrong and I actually feel kinda sorry for them. Bye. No need to leave the forum. Negative people cant hurt a real business. If p2p turns out to be what I think it is then yeah there might be a problem. Please dont feel sorry for me. I know where my money is at. Feel sorry for those that just dumped a load of cash into the unknown. They will be the ones hurting later on. Actually that one took a lot less time, I guess I'll shut up the same time you do Yes you're quite right, did you say that as well to the CEP people now being sued after sending in their info to be verified for THEIR payment processor? Just askin Interesting so I'm not earning any money? Wonder how it is you know that, oddly enough I'm not bitter in the least, but I guess that's all you can attempt to latch on to so have fun with it. BTW it's "I don't WANT money from an illegal ponzi" try to get "something right.. thanks. You are quite right I have never claimed otherwise... Making SOME people a lot of money.. and forcing SOME people to lose a lot of money... the only question is did the ones that will end up losing lose it on a level playing field being involved based on honest claims?? That's ok I for the life of my don't get why you would NOT see what the problem is... so that makes us equal I guess. Wow you aren't really going to trot out the anti government rant are you? Haven't see that one used in quite a while... Is that the best you can do? All you have to do is read this thread through and see that after I had my proof this thing was a scam I barely posted at all... it hasn't been until the last little while I have offered my opinion... crusade? Hahaha...ok whatever works for ya... I might move on to the next one I might now.. depends on how many people I know that are personally getting hurt that I can effect change for them... and with all due respect what YOU see a fruitless exercise really has no bearing on my POV or actions...but thanks for offering it anyway. Good to see you posting again. Thanks for the welcome back. I pop in now and again for a bit of entertainment, although she who must be obeyed thinks I'm participating in some seedy chatroom, no truth there then I don't fall into one of your categories as I'm not a member here although it must be nice to be a sheep all warm and snug, much better than a negative poster like the profit of doom, good ole PN with his fancy graphs and toilet pictures, there are really many better things to do, no really there are. As for this program, well who knows, I don't think there's been proof either way has there ? Just a lot of statements from both sides, a bit like Mrs Clinton who has a habit of "mis-speaking" As for my final point, I don't see anyone being "forced" into losing money, maybe duped, maybe encouraged, maybe they'll make money, no one knows, thats the beauty of any financial transaction, "past performance is not an indication of future returns" Take care No need to leave the forum. Negative people cant hurt a real business. If p2p turns out to be what I think it is then yeah there might be a problem. Please dont feel sorry for me. I know where my money is at. Feel sorry for those that just dumped a load of cash into the unknown. They will be the ones hurting later on. Well I am involved with a lot of different investment$ as well as a business. I have a couple rental properties, I max out 2 Roth IRA's every year for my wife and I, I have managed forex accounts running and I dabble in the stock market as well. But I have to tell you that I have made more money with P2P then any of those investment$ combined. So ya maybe it will go under some day but for now I have more then tripled my money with p2p so I'm not worried about it. . The cool thing about this inve$tment is you can make all your money back within 30 days then you are at the risk free point from there. Good luck to you all and have an Unbelievable day. Mike Well I am involved with a lot of different investment$ as well as a business. I have a couple rental properties, I max out 2 Roth IRA's every year for my wife and I, I have managed forex accounts running and I dabble in the stock market as well. But I have to tell you that I have made more money with P2P then any of those investment$ combined. So ya maybe it will go under some day but for now I have more then tripled my money with p2p so I'm not worried about it. . The cool thing about this inve$tment is you can make all your money back within 30 days then you are at the risk free point from there. Good luck to you all and have an Unbelievable day. Mike Mike, I think the big thing here is the following, in your managed forex accounts, stock accounts rental properties and other home based business is there any fear that those are illegal operations? People just don't seem to get that CEP changed the rules, from now on any time a scam like P2P requires people to confirm their ID it is simply an easy way for them to be sued to have the ill gotten gains returned.. I realize that is NOT the case yet with P2P and I admit in reading your blog you do take a logical approach to playing the game which is great.. but remember the real concern with a lot of people that are called "naysayers" is that NOT everybody is equipped with the same info, they have been duped or lied to with all sorts of hogwash about how legal this all is, etc..etc... so while I'm happy for you that you are playing with your eyes wide open and are ahead in the such is not always the case. BTW, if you followed your rule of never investing more than 2k in any one program and as you say you've tripled your account (6k) you must have a pretty crappy forex trader or you have only been with them for a month or something... most managed accounts over time would pay off a lot better than here today gone tomorrow HYIPs, as you stated there are always the ones you lose on and you have to cover that with the winners.. it's a crap shoot at best
Q. Is p-2-p a spent Ponzi scam?
A. Do bears **** in the woods? Q. Is p-2-p a spent Ponzi scam? A. Do bears **** in the woods? Back in March you said p2p would not last until the end of April. It is May now. I am sure you will be posting the same statements at this same time next year and we p2p members will still be laughing at you. Back in March you said p2p would not last until the end of April. It is May now. I am sure you will be posting the same statements at this same time next year and we p2p members will still be laughing at you. Why does it say at the bottom that my signature has been edited by mmg staff? I am not even using a signature. Each time I post in this forum some advertising appears which I cannot control. I am tired of being held responsible for others' spam. Back in March you said p2p would not last until the end of April. It is May now. I am sure you will be posting the same statements at this same time next year and we p2p members will still be laughing at you. Why does it say at the bottom that my signature has been edited by mmg staff? I am not even using a signature. Each time I post in this forum some advertising appears which I cannot control. I am tired of being held responsible for others' spam. -------------------- This signature has been edited by MMG Staff. Please view our signature guidelines found here I keep seeing this at the bottom of my posts when I am not even using a signature. Why?
go to Edit Signature in the control pannel and delete that text.
Where will all of cheerleaders be when this goes down PN's toilet? I will find you so dont think so are safe. It will just be a matter of time and I dont forget. It should be some good times ahead. Just ask the infamous Executive that has disappeared off the planet. PN put him in a bad place Im afraid. LOL. See you all in the next scam when this on finally craps out.
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Why does it say at the bottom that my signature has been edited by mmg staff? I am not even using a signature. Each time I post in this forum some advertising appears which I cannot control. I am tired of being held responsible for others' spam. -------------------- This signature has been edited by MMG Staff. Please view our signature guidelines found here I keep seeing this at the bottom of my posts when I am not even using a signature. Why? You can remove it anytime. Just go to your Control Panel. If you didn't have a signature of your own to begin with, you must have had one of the old MMG advertisements in your signature and we are editing them out. ![]()
My 30-day term ended earlier this week with another 60% interest added to my account.
SWEET...
I had heard this was a negative place concerning P2P, and many other sites as well. I haven't been in here for almost a year and now I remember why.
To those that keep responding to the negative posts... All I have to say is why? What is it about MMG members that make so many of them want to "eat their own"? Nothing is ever any good unless it is something you are in. Want a safe Investment? Try good old American T-bills. China thinks they are great. Now I have to go take a shower again. I feel filthy just from being in contact with all the negativity here. I had heard this was a negative place concerning P2P, and many other sites as well. I haven't been in here for almost a year and now I remember why. To those that keep responding to the negative posts... All I have to say is why? What is it about MMG members that make so many of them want to "eat their own"? Nothing is ever any good unless it is something you are in. Want a safe Investment? Try good old American T-bills. China thinks they are great. Now I have to go take a shower again. I feel filthy just from being in contact with all the negativity here. I know, it was alot more peaceful here a few months ago then all of a sudden everything got so negative in here. not sure how it started It just beats me why some guys keep talking rot about a program that's still paying. Just a reminder, Every program online is suppose to be genuine untill proven wrong by not paying its members again. Dcc was genuine untill proven wrong. CEP was genuine untill proven wrong. And since this one is still paying, why all the negativity? Suppose u guys shut up and let's see where this one goes huh? Good luck to every one. How do you know if I gave a warning or not? Hello Hula, Well I don't know if you gave a warning or not. There is warning scale on the left hand side at the bottom and I did not see a percent warning? That is what I was looking at. I am sorry if I assumed wrong! Have a nice day! Donnie
The website is down. Commiserations to all those who lost money here.
All I know is I got paid just now to my STP account.
Congrats !! Why do you say I'm wrong? Are you telling me that the website is not down? If you can see anything there then you're the only one.April 21st pendings were paid out a very short while ago......and the site will be up shortly as well for everyone.......wrong again PN! And are you saying that nobody has lost money? Even if the site does come back up - and I won't be surprised if it doesn't - I can tell you one thing for certain: There are members with funds in p2p now who will never be paid. If I'm wrong about that then the mods are free to ban me from MMG. Hey, I'll even promise to eat my toilet - I'll video it and post it on YouTube, if everyone with funds in there now gets paid everything due to them now. I have made the same promise before with respect to other programs and guess what, I have never had to eat my toilet. When it gets to this stage I know that every new investor will lose everything as clearly as I know that night follows day. So again, for those who have lost money here my commiserations. Try to learn your lessons - all these HYIPs, "autosurfs", etc., are Ponzi scams. Most people always lose money, so please don't run off to another one to try to make your losses back again, it will end in tears.
Just came from P2P private chat-room which is working fine. P2P web site us down at this time due to server problems.
Should be back soon. In the mean time P2P members please go to the private chat room to chat and have fun!! I haven't been here for a while now I know why. What a swamp. I don't understand why do you people still react to PN's nonsense writings? Why not just ignore that poor sick looser? I bet it would drive him more nuts. I will go ahead and un-subscribe from MMG today. I consider myself a well educated and smart person and I am not willing to waste my time reading trash here on this forum. MMG used to be different. Used to be a good place to "talk". Not any more. I don't understand why do you people still react to PN's nonsense writings? Well, if they do turn out to be "nonsense", i.e. if everyone with funds in p2p today does get paid in full, I'm saying the mods can ban me. Let's see of it does turn out to be nonsense - if it's not ignoring me could be very expensive for any newbies thinking of joining today.
the fact from my end: site's back!
Well, if they do turn out to be "nonsense", i.e. if everyone with funds in p2p today does get paid in full, I'm saying the mods can ban me. Let's see of it does turn out to be nonsense - if it's not ignoring me could be very expensive for any newbies thinking of joining today. The thing is PonziNemesis, when it comes to investing people have to go through a journey and it will be full of successes and failures but in the end it is there choice so why don't you leave it alone, you have made your point in this thread long ago. No need to keep posting the same negative message. Just my opinion. GP
hey people I am new to this Program, I will be investing 1000 usd for 15 days.. just to give it a shot. I would like to speak to the owner of the program but How do I get contact with him?
Why do you say I'm wrong? Are you telling me that the website is not down? If you can see anything there then you're the only one. And are you saying that nobody has lost money? Even if the site does come back up - and I won't be surprised if it doesn't - I can tell you one thing for certain: There are members with funds in p2p now who will never be paid. If I'm wrong about that then the mods are free to ban me from MMG. Hey, I'll even promise to eat my toilet - I'll video it and post it on YouTube, if everyone with funds in there now gets paid everything due to them now. I have made the same promise before with respect to other programs and guess what, I have never had to eat my toilet. When it gets to this stage I know that every new investor will lose everything as clearly as I know that night follows day. So again, for those who have lost money here my commiserations. Try to learn your lessons - all these HYIPs, "autosurfs", etc., are Ponzi scams. Most people always lose money, so please don't run off to another one to try to make your losses back again, it will end in tears. Hey PN, the site is still up and I have been paid 3 figures to my STP account today. So when are you going to eat your toilet then? Probably never because you just like spouting the same old stuff day in and day out. You seem to be in a minority of one person able to access the site - nobody else can get in right now including the p2p support crew. Have you been smoking something, rainmark? I don't know what is going on between you and rainmark. I just tried to open P2P's website. It works and want to let you know in case.
The word gets deleted in p2p forums and needs to be said.
Well, I was paid just like Nick said, so I thank you Nick for being true to your word. After investing in this opportunity I found out later that Nick invests in 8 offshore casinos and as a Christian I cannot continue to invest in this type of investment. It appears there are a lot of other Christians on this site and I wanted you to know exactly where your money is being invested. This topic hits very close to home for me, because my sister's marriage was destroyed because of gambling. Her soon to be ex-husband is addicted to gambling and has destroyed their finances to support his habit. I can't in good conscience invest in something that has caused so much pain and heartache in my sister's life. For those that may want to re-e.valuate investing in this type of thing I have listed a website below that discusses why gambling is a sin and investing in casinos is also a sin. Even the secular world calls investing in casinos a SIN stock. That should be a big red flag. I'm sure Nick is a nice guy and is really trying to help people out financially for providing this opportunity, but do you really want to make money from ill gotten gain? I know I don't and that is why I am writing this so those who didn't know before will know now how your return on your investment was made. Casinos and lotteries: Casinos use all sorts of marketing schemes to entice gamblers to risk as much money as possible. They often offer inexpensive or even free alcohol, which encourages drunkenness, and thereby a decreased ability to make wise decisions. Everything in a casino is perfectly rigged for taking money in large sums and giving nothing in return, except for fleeting and empty pleasures. Lotteries attempt to portray themselves as a way to fund education and/or social programs. However, studies show that lottery participants are usually those who can least afford to be spending money on lottery tickets. The allure of "getting rich quick" is too great a temptation to resist for those who are desperate. The chances of winning are infinitesimal, which results in many peoples’ lives being ruined. Why lottery proceeds do not please God: Many people claim to be playing the lottery or gambling so that they can give the money to the church, or to some other good cause. While this may be a good motive, reality is that few use gambling winnings for godly purposes. Studies show that the vast majority of lottery winners are in an even worse financial situation a few years after winning a jackpot than they were before. Few, if any, truly give the money to a good cause. Further, God does not need our money to fund His mission in the world. Proverbs 13:11 says, “Dishonest money dwindles away, but he who gathers money little by little makes it grow.” God is sovereign and will provide for the needs of the church through honest means. Would God be honored by receiving donated drug money, or money stolen in a bank robbery? Neither does God need or want money that was "stolen" from the poor by the temptation for riches. 1 Timothy 6:10 tells us, "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs." Hebrews 13:5 declares, "Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you." Matthew 6:24 proclaims, "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:J2 ... cd=6&gl=us God Bless, NDH
Did you donate your money to a charity, being that you don't like how Nick earns money, or did you enjoy the profits you made?
To PN....You look more foolish as each day passes. Take your ball and go home. The word gets deleted in p2p forums and needs to be said. Well, I was paid just like Nick said, so I thank you Nick for being true to your word. After investing in this opportunity I found out later that Nick invests in 8 offshore casinos and as a Christian I cannot continue to invest in this type of investment. It appears there are a lot of other Christians on this site and I wanted you to know exactly where your money is being invested. This topic hits very close to home for me, because my sister's marriage was destroyed because of gambling. Her soon to be ex-husband is addicted to gambling and has destroyed their finances to support his habit. I can't in good conscience invest in something that has caused so much pain and heartache in my sister's life. For those that may want to re-e.valuate investing in this type of thing I have listed a website below that discusses why gambling is a sin and investing in casinos is also a sin. Even the secular world calls investing in casinos a SIN stock. That should be a big red flag. I'm sure Nick is a nice guy and is really trying to help people out financially for providing this opportunity, but do you really want to make money from ill gotten gain? I know I don't and that is why I am writing this so those who didn't know before will know now how your return on your investment was made. Casinos and lotteries: Casinos use all sorts of marketing schemes to entice gamblers to risk as much money as possible. They often offer inexpensive or even free alcohol, which encourages drunkenness, and thereby a decreased ability to make wise decisions. Everything in a casino is perfectly rigged for taking money in large sums and giving nothing in return, except for fleeting and empty pleasures. Lotteries attempt to portray themselves as a way to fund education and/or social programs. However, studies show that lottery participants are usually those who can least afford to be spending money on lottery tickets. The allure of "getting rich quick" is too great a temptation to resist for those who are desperate. The chances of winning are infinitesimal, which results in many peoples’ lives being ruined. Why lottery proceeds do not please God: Many people claim to be playing the lottery or gambling so that they can give the money to the church, or to some other good cause. While this may be a good motive, reality is that few use gambling winnings for godly purposes. Studies show that the vast majority of lottery winners are in an even worse financial situation a few years after winning a jackpot than they were before. Few, if any, truly give the money to a good cause. Further, God does not need our money to fund His mission in the world. Proverbs 13:11 says, “Dishonest money dwindles away, but he who gathers money little by little makes it grow.” God is sovereign and will provide for the needs of the church through honest means. Would God be honored by receiving donated drug money, or money stolen in a bank robbery? Neither does God need or want money that was "stolen" from the poor by the temptation for riches. 1 Timothy 6:10 tells us, "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs." Hebrews 13:5 declares, "Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you." Matthew 6:24 proclaims, "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:J2 ... cd=6&gl=us God Bless, NDH Christians "playing" at money games and ponzi schemes? And i emphasize the word playing, something which most folks loose sight of very quickly when they trick themselves into believing its not a ponzi scheme. Is that like the time Jesus went into his fathers temple and found all the money changers in there? Treat it like a game there all the same, some win most loose and some go insane. hey people I am new to this Program, I will be investing 1000 usd for 15 days.. just to give it a shot. I would like to speak to the owner of the program but How do I get contact with him? Moey...Moey...Moey....Dude. Dont put your money in here. I watched you go thru minvestment and another one. Learn already man. Dont you just get sick and tired of people running off with your money ? Think for a minute about how you felt when minvestment booked with you money. This will be no different in the end guy...Dont do it !!!!! The word gets deleted in p2p forums and needs to be said. Well, I was paid just like Nick said, so I thank you Nick for being true to your word. After investing in this opportunity I found out later that Nick invests in 8 offshore casinos and as a Christian I cannot continue to invest in this type of investment. It appears there are a lot of other Christians on this site and I wanted you to know exactly where your money is being invested. This topic hits very close to home for me, because my sister's marriage was destroyed because of gambling. Her soon to be ex-husband is addicted to gambling and has destroyed their finances to support his habit. I can't in good conscience invest in something that has caused so much pain and heartache in my sister's life. For those that may want to re-e.valuate investing in this type of thing I have listed a website below that discusses why gambling is a sin and investing in casinos is also a sin. Even the secular world calls investing in casinos a SIN stock. That should be a big red flag. I'm sure Nick is a nice guy and is really trying to help people out financially for providing this opportunity, but do you really want to make money from ill gotten gain? I know I don't and that is why I am writing this so those who didn't know before will know now how your return on your investment was made. Casinos and lotteries: Casinos use all sorts of marketing schemes to entice gamblers to risk as much money as possible. They often offer inexpensive or even free alcohol, which encourages drunkenness, and thereby a decreased ability to make wise decisions. Everything in a casino is perfectly rigged for taking money in large sums and giving nothing in return, except for fleeting and empty pleasures. Lotteries attempt to portray themselves as a way to fund education and/or social programs. However, studies show that lottery participants are usually those who can least afford to be spending money on lottery tickets. The allure of "getting rich quick" is too great a temptation to resist for those who are desperate. The chances of winning are infinitesimal, which results in many peoples’ lives being ruined. Why lottery proceeds do not please God: Many people claim to be playing the lottery or gambling so that they can give the money to the church, or to some other good cause. While this may be a good motive, reality is that few use gambling winnings for godly purposes. Studies show that the vast majority of lottery winners are in an even worse financial situation a few years after winning a jackpot than they were before. Few, if any, truly give the money to a good cause. Further, God does not need our money to fund His mission in the world. Proverbs 13:11 says, “Dishonest money dwindles away, but he who gathers money little by little makes it grow.” God is sovereign and will provide for the needs of the church through honest means. Would God be honored by receiving donated drug money, or money stolen in a bank robbery? Neither does God need or want money that was "stolen" from the poor by the temptation for riches. 1 Timothy 6:10 tells us, "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs." Hebrews 13:5 declares, "Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you." Matthew 6:24 proclaims, "No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:J2 ... cd=6&gl=us God Bless, NDH the mere fact that you are posting here(possibly as well in other online investing and hyip forums) presupposes that you may be well aware that investing in this arena is in itself gambling seeing as 99% of online investments and hyips are generally deemed to be scams and ponzis(some "crusading naysayers" claim they're all scams..but that's another story). Doesn't that go against your whole sermon? Or didn't you know? QUOTE After investing in this opportunity I found out later that Nick invests in 8 offshore casinos and as a Christian I cannot continue to invest in this type of investment. Didn't you perform at least some token diligence to determine where the returns supposedly derive from(if it's that important to your religious beliefs) before spending? The website is down. Commiserations to all those who lost money here. You poor lost soul must get a life! Don't you have anything better to do than lurk around these forums spreading your pathetic lies? No ones cares what you "think" will happen. You are the biggest example of a loser I know. Let people decide for themselves what they want to do. Does anyone tell you what to do with your life? Butt out, mind your own business and get on with your own life. You're repetitive remarks have no proof or truth behind them. You have worn out your welcome just about everywhere you go. Go away and stay away. You are sooooooooo boring. You poor lost soul must get a life! Don't you have anything better to do than lurk around these forums spreading your pathetic lies? Where have I lied? The website was down when I made that post, and I am certain that most people with funds in p2p today will have lost it all when p2p collapses, which will not be long now.QUOTE No ones cares what you "think" will happen. You are the biggest example of a loser I know. I am regularly thanked by people who heed my advice and save a fortune as a result. I am very happy to spend some of my time helping others to see these scams for what they are - I enjoy it.QUOTE Let people decide for themselves what they want to do. I do let people decide. They can "invest" in p2p if they want; I just point out that it's a scam and they'll lose their money if they do.QUOTE Does anyone tell you what to do with your life? Plenty. You for one...QUOTE Butt out, mind your own business and get on with your own life. ...there you are, trying to tell me what to do!QUOTE You're repetitive remarks have no proof or truth behind them. We'll soon see. Watch and learn.QUOTE You have worn out your welcome just about everywhere you go. Go away and stay away. You are sooooooooo Well, you could always put me on your "ignore" list if you don't want to read my posts. Just go to my profile and you'll find a convenient link there - one click and you'll never have to read another of my posts, so no need to keep complaining if you don't find them useful boring. I hope this helps, Kind regards, PN. |