Point taken Jerr.
I think the figures quoted where to give more of a look into the unsustainability of the program in the long term.
Maybe a lot has changed since this old blog was originally written.

How long the long term life of this program is will no doubt be based on these super secret investments P2P has or new money in to pay off old members.

Didn't someone mention P2P has paid out more than has been taken in, surprising even doubtfull but does anyone have any proof of this.
That would certainley shut me up for a while.

Hi Reflexx, I would agree the life of the program is based upon how long the investments that Nick chooses to not disclose can or will last.

As to the point of new money being needed to pay out old. I can make my statement but the fact is. For the bulk of the P2P life the membership was very small. New members where not joining yet maxed out accounts were being paid out. I am not sure but I think looking at a Alexa rating my point to the fact for a long time, this site was not real well known.

I did mention that yes P2P has paid out far more then it has taken in. Frankly I think the only way to prove that statement beyond a doubt would be to have the books opened up and a non bias accounting firm have a look into them. Since this is a private company I do not think that is going to happen.

Now barring that from happening one must relay on people who would known the figures and deciding if they would lie to the general public. The statement has been made by someone who would know the amount of money that has been paid out from the P2P program.

Again that statement would have to be taken on the faith of the person who made it. One would have to decide from reading this persons other posts in the online world the odds of him being a liar.

I have known this person for years. He has earned my trust over those years.

jerr

At risk of stirring up the Public vs Private argument yet again, perhaps P2P's accounts will become avaiable when they do the year end accounts.

Perhaps these would already be available if any registration had taken place with the triple alphabet mob crew, SEC, OSC, FSA, PnP etc.




N.B.
PnP= Plug & Play just stuck in for a giggle

Nobody has said P2P is investing in online gambling sites. Nick is a shareholder in offfshore casino's. Big difference.

That would mean that payouts are taking sixteen calendar days, or 12 business days. It seems they are having difficulty staying within terms.

Now that p-2-p has a secure log-in portal and homepage the alexa ratings will drop a whole lot. Either firefox or internet explorer does not register with alexa ratings when the web page being accessed has the secure https in the address. I do not know if it is firefox or IE. It will not be long before the negative type posters that are not in p-2-p will be shouting from the street corners about p-2-p's demise because of the lowering of the alexa rating

Just curious as to what point you are trying to make? the upgraded are in the 1/3rd of what the site shows, dont even look at them, since it is a misnomeaner, but I can tell you that I am maxed and dont care if you believe me or not, I also know that at least 20 others have said that they are maxed in one and two accounts, so by reason, the amounts we are talking about from approx 3/4k upgraded membership does not seem to be enough to cover the max payouts and the middle and low pay outs, does it.

BTW Jerr, there are quite a few in the conference room wondering where you are. See people do miss you and your words.

Layton

Quick break from work and wanted to see whats up.
cvkint, i have figured out a way to read your posts and will be doing so , if I can get away from work in time. However I really don't care weather the questinos have been asked a million times, you could be considerate enough to point the way to the answers, or answer them again.

Sigh, I wonder does anyone other than P2P members UNDERSTAND the math???????? I seems not, You can only have a certian amount of money in this program at a time, so there is NO way you could make billions in one month or one year.
Proves people don't really read. As for wether I care about the ones who follow me, I think that if you decide not to invest more than you can safely afford to lose than you will be ok. And if you do, well I am sorry but you took the chance.
I don't plan on referring anyone. I also believe that not all members do the referral links.
Sorry I responded to cvkint, but I really didn't think he/she can stay away. I really didn't think you would respond about programs you find worthwhile, I really wanted a breif idea of the type, not accual names.

As for the web pages being quoted, they are not quite up to date are they?? Sigh They have been saying P2P will be going down for MONTHS now, yet it is still here.
Must get back to work.

Yes I believe your math is correct. I am trying to understand the concern. At one time they were way way behind the they caught up. Now they are behind again.

So

If they can catch up what is the problem. I do not know what kind of issues there might be and until I am told of them I cannot give a opinion

jerr

Hi Jerri1513,

Please let us know if you receive the payment from P2P. It has been elapsed more than 12 days even the P2P faq and interviews with Nick saying Patience is MUST! 5 to 10 business days now it does not look good. He is playing psyche with people's minds so it is real PONZI.

I would not invest into P2P as well as whoever did invest from the beginning are very lucky but late arrival investors are helping their harvest.

Hope you did make some profits or recover your full principal back from them... I will not hold much hopes on them.

Take care!





Layton,

My point is trying to make people see it is too late investing in P2P as well as other guy has not received his payment since March 6th. It is more than 12 business days according to P2P faq 5-10 business days. It is not very great sign of showing survival. It is purely PONZI! it is not even a legitimate investment!

Yes, I am trying to help poor souls and make them realize it is worthless and useless to invest in P2P as well as you made over 45k you are lucky dog fortunate making some money but whoever are late arrival investing few days, weeks ago would not see their money again.

You can say it is not your problem it is their loss you win the game ahead so I am here to give more hints it is not worth investing into P2P. I am sure Ponzi Nemesis can give more facts about Nick's illegal operations.

These poor souls could see my posts and get themselves in their own senses forget investing in P2P if they decide to ignore mine because you and others could give positive information meaning you want to be paid more from your max upgrades.

Thanks!

thank you unlimetedearning, I have made a lot of profit at P2P and for what it is worth I am sure it is not a ponzi. But yes I will you know when the money has entered my PP.

jerr

Ahhh Ok, You keep trying to save poor souls, and they will keep putting money in, and I will keep making money until it is no more, then I will do the same again and you will also try to save the poor souls, it is a very profitable circle to me, so please continue, and I will continue to make money, sure I lose some, but the wins have more than make up for it, eat your heart out, learn the game and profit to, or continue to be a loser by trying to save poor souls.

Layton

Good* Day Layton, i have 12 referrals When i go to referral investments i see this 0 How long til they are deleted*

They were supposed to delete all non upgraded members when the Min investment was raised, but you know that Nick and time frames do not always happen.


Layton

Thanks Layton for the link...Gerry

Ummm ok women it is... I have no idea what you're on about.

Ahhhh Sessi, how I love when people post things like this... you will notice there was no big rush of posts after yours saying you go girl yeah you're right and all the other blah blah blah.. that usually happens after a completely off topic bash attempt.. here is why... I will quote your post slightly out of order, my apologies in advance....



So let me see if I understand you correctly it's OK for YOU to make your sarcastic post about ME, but not ok for me to do so about you? Please do explain that reasoning if you don't mind.... I am curious.. sarcasm to follow...



Sounds a bit sarcastic to me.... how about you?

You also said....



Not sure what forum you're referring to or post, perhaps you can refresh my memory... but again odd how you claim I did so without "knowledge of your background" what is it you are doing in this post? Making sarcastic comments without knowledge of my background.. again why is it ok for you but not for me??



Actually business class, I don't know any carrier that flies BKK to HK with a first class cabin as it's only a 2.5 hour flight... as for the bank yes as a matter of fact I do have an appointment with my lawyer then with HSBC, let me know if you want to see the proof when I get back and I'll post it for you... that should be substance enough non?



You've really lost me here, I don't know what website you are referring to, but all my active sites are just that.. perhaps you found some long ago no longer used site, you'll have to cite your source... but while we are on the subject would you please explain to me what is wrong with Namecheap? A very professional and one of the biggest registrars on the net... I guess you would think I was more professional if I use GoDaddy like Nick did for P2P? I am not sure why as last time I checked they both offer .com sites within .10 of each other..so you'll have to clear that up for me when you get a chance... or maybe I could use the free hosting that Nick used for his promotional site that hasn't been updated since March 2007 please don't take my word for it http://all4webs.com/b/j/rddirect/ have a look, he states his name right on the site and you can see March 2007 as the last update... is that the substance I should have you are referring to?



I guess to you, but not to my business partners, who oh btw have shareholder agreements and directors and meetings and accounting and employees.. hmmmm much like Nick.. right? Please show me the substance other than "Nick said so" I haven't seen any.. have you? If you are referring to you, sorry don't know of any substance from you either... by all means willing to view anything you have to indicate otherwise.



Sorry not staying there. we are at the Kowloon Hotel, yes they do have wi-fi but the point of being there is for meetings not to spend all day on the house wi-fi

As stated if you would like proof any of the above, please feel free to ask... as for your comment about being rude to you elsewhere, I can only gather based on your post above that you either responded in kind, or started it... so I'm sure no harm done.

Ok, skipped out of work early, did some reading. cvkint, found a few things very interesting and they start back in 2006. Well the comments do. Wish you really would follow your own advice from back then.

lets see-- Jan 30, 06 post # 1030355 "you repeating the same thing over and over again will not make it anymore clear to theose that don't get it, or and less clear to those that do" please follow you own advice

Jun 06 #2373762 wait this was totally off topic "just wanted to post to be last person to have msg posted to 5 threads" three happy faces Thought you commented on this same thing earlier, plus you still have done this. Just posted nothing on topic

MY favorite--
Dec 7 06 #3311367 "anybody who spent more than they can afford deserves to get their knuckles rapped...." changed your mind?

Skipped many months seems to acually be happy

March07 rant about AP not getting money on time
May 06 happy with AP
Jun 07 lawer for AP problem

Aug 07 #4357586 "seriosly simply by calling something a investment does not mean it needs to be registerd with the SEC", yes there is more to that one

June 5 07 4161962 read the post

took you till SEPT 22 07 t#4400822 to attack
Nov17 07 first mentions Ontario Goverment, Nov 19, RCMP is brought up --- Thought you had checked this all out BEFORE posting-- see the Mar 14 #4749934 post

Nov 2o #4501419, kinda refers back to post #1178974--- do YOU live within a five minute walk to 3 casinos or a ten minute walk, there will be a difference. I believe a 4th casino may have been built

What happened from NOV 20th to now?? Oh wait Nick stood you up.

Nov 21 nice post about what trolling is
Nothing really new untill recently---
I guesMar 10 #4739715 kinda missed part of the explination there, that would be the "unless the meet certian exemptions"
Got real snippy around The 11th
Got nasty on Mar 13#4747777
Mar 13 same post, who called? who emailed?The OSC or RCMP got proof??
Mar #477668-- lied there

Mar 14 #4749938 Not true started your attack on sept 22, 07 First mentioned OSC Nov 17 then RCMP on the 19th
Mar 14 #4749968 "uncovered lots on nick" wait Yousaid you could not find any information about Nikc, I knew I should have wrote that post number down.
same post--- only the OSC can sell securities??

Also Here is the first time you have called this a SCAM

#4750324, went back could not find the number for RCMP you siad you posted.

There is probably more, but I skimmed over the early months.

Just wanted to prove that YES yo HAVE LIED here.

Now I have read all of your posts and could not find the HARD facts you say you have proven, mostly it has been YOUR word. Your word that you have called, no you never gave dates or times, sigh another lie. Only Telling me to call OSC and others. I will try to call Tuesday. However, It really will depend on what the interpertation one makes of all this.

You were doing much better untill oh about Mar 11th. then you let it get personal.

Now I am ready for the counter attack. I did not say you don't have some intersting points, just how it was said.


Hapyy Easter to all!!
I am off to get some rest for tomorrows work day.

I can't wait to here all the people telling YOU to get a life hahaha... I can't wait for the comments from all your supporters... if you had nothing better to do with your time than go back and read old posts and then post snippets out of context that is 100% up to you. No counter attack here... I didn't see you prove a single lie... there is a big difference between being mistaken about something or changing one's opinion than there is in purposely lying... really kinda funny that you choose where I made the casino comment being three minutes in one post and ten in another... both were throw away comments...

The bottom line is and continues to be, that you are trying to make this thread about ME. I would rather we make it about NICK.... is there anything wrong with that? Why is it so hard for so many of the supporters to keep on topic?

Have my opinions about some things over the last 26 or so months that I've been a member here changed? Darn tootin they have..so what? Do you honestly believe if you went back for the last two years over mcpeewee's or nineteen or owen or anyone in this thread you wouldn't see things they thought differently about then or changed their mind on things now? You are sadly mistaken my friend...

It is very amusing that you feel somehow I have this vast power that my posting is making a difference one way or the other, if it is it's in a very minor way... but so be it's my right to post as it is yours...

If the above made you happy and you felt it was a worthwhile expense of your time knock yourself out... you could also check many other forums where I'm a member and I'm sure you would see over time my opinions on some things have changed there as well..seriously whatever makes you happy is fine...

I am confused about one thing... why is it if "I" disagree with YOU or one of the supporters here or in any thread suddenly that's an attack? Yet when someone you agree with does it it's considering perfectly rational and ok?

You will note there is no anger or animosity in my tone or words simply confusion...

I have said it many many times.. P2P is illegal according to the province's laws in which it is doing business.. if the info provided does NOT sway you.. so be it.. that is your choice.. never claimed otherwise...

Hope you enjoyed your break from work...

Oh, I think it will get even hotter in here since MCF banned several members, then let them back in with a mod review, and that I do object to very strongly, since that is censorship, and these were not new people, but ones that were with Nick from almost the first, so o yea it will heat up a little. The only place left to be able to speak freely is here and the chat room and other forums.

Layton


Hey manosteel, kinda reminds me of another forum from the past, dosen't it?

Layton

Thanks* 4 Your Reply Layton* is the Min investment still $100

Hey unlimitedearning...You write just like a guy named Peter Skuta. Not saying your him...but about 99% sure.

Hey there Layton,

You know me..I have an intolerance for intolerance.

Normally, I do feel that a controlled forum is not a transparent forum..

I still don't know how to make heads or tails of it or of any of the players or personalities involved.

Perhaps we should let things unfold and reach the logical conclusion it should.


I have respect for those who speak their mind and tell it like it is.

I definitely don't agree with everything cvkint says..but he has his reasons and his freedom to express himself.

Even ponzi nemesis has a role to play.


I don't think he's all bad(oh, maybe a little har har).


That's why "free forums" are always the better place to be.

I'm not too fond of TG though..having been familiar with it's early days and the role played in hyipland by one of it's former co-owners from Belgium.

Whatever happened to the good old days with jeff the exec and "patryn" LMAO!!!






But seriously, this program(p2p) has paid me and many many others unlike that poor excuse you see in my sig.

I dare say that no other dedicated forum practiced censorship like that -- although there may be signs that we are seeing an emerging police state in a certain forum we are familiar with currently.

I shudder to even think that we're headed there, or that it even has the slightest bearing or connection with the program proper.

Censorship is never a good thing.


They appear to be good folk--those who were banned and are now reportedly under "review".


I wish I could join you guys in conference..but all I got is this stupid mac LOL! just kidding I love m'mac

You speak your mind Layton..and with balanced views too --you and I observe jerr of late...admirable traits

Hi Layton, If I remember correctly from Yesterday my point at the time was that as P2P has been running for over a year now and in an ideal world some form of Accounts would be availble to potential investors to allow them to make a more informed decision. I could be wrong but correct registration with regulatory bodies would make this a given.
At present the only way any one can make a decision to invest or not is based on what P2P presents and the payment history members report, there is no verified information available apart from speculation.

Whether P2P is a Ponzi or not any new investor (I use this phrase losely) should educate themselves pretty quickly at this stage of the game.
For those who know its a game, play on at your leisure I have no right to issue moral statements regarding right or wrong although the time to suck this pot dry maybe fast approaching, but i've been saying that for months- by the law of averages I should be correct eventually.

For what its worth Layton and even if you don't care, of the few people I choose to believe in these games you are one of them.

On a side note it seems a few at MCF have been given a glimpse at how deep these cess pools go and don't like it- kudos for their honesty. But thats just more speculation.

If you do find out what the deal is can you let me know? I have no idea why I got banned. Very bizzare really.



Thank you for letting me know we are allowed back in! LOL No one else told me. I might have added words but since I didn't say anything to get banned in the first place I would be reluctant to say anything that I might be guessing at!

Tappin

wow---for someone who JUST found P2P and now who has only been posting a couple days- and only 5 posts so far----all attacks against P2P detractors-----you seem to be emerging
as the #1 Kool-aide drinking cheerleader in here. You sure got up to speed on P2P fast. Almost like you have been around the program for a long time. But I know you said you were really a newbie and didnt change your username etc. so---all righty then....

Must have taken a lot of work to find all those posts. wow---you gotta be one of most strident supporters of a program as a newbie I've ever seen. Gotta admire the dedication to the cause----you're good....

Hi nineteen, yes it is.

I assure you... very much in the dark --tis a mystery that might never see solution 'cept if details are divulged by the higher powers at you-know-where..?

heck I know why you were banned Tappin then allowed back under "mod review" You are guilty by association. Heck I have asked what rules I broke. No answer from kent or staff.

Now why was I allowed back in under "mod review" kent fears that his grip on total information control might slip. You and i have seen a admin act this way before.

kent "fears people are out to take MCF down" ummm kent that is called paranoid. Who are these people out to bring down MCF? Heck I would like to know. Course I would also like to know about why you tried to get Nick's forum liaison fired.

Some how kent I do not think this over and done with yet, I for one have never made any false accusations or told any lies about MCF or its staff. Have you? yes would you like to see the proof kent? then feel free to contact me or remove the mod review censorship.


Ok sorry MMG members and mods off topic there. I would just like members of P2P not to confuse Nick with kent. Nick has done everything he has ever claimed he would. kent....not so much

I strongly agree with you Jerr.

No matter how many Easter Time posts to make it look kind and spiritual he makes, I don´t see this over and done yet either. I understand a big mistake was made. This is to ban and to try to shut up respected members simply asking for reasons in a respectful way.

The main problem is someone thinks he is the owner and should have full control.

Mod review? Is that a joke? Believe me never before have I seen so much arrogance.

I still want to hear from other people in this story. People who have been accused and as you say, was fired. His silence has a reason.

Personally, I stopped posting there many days ago and just read for any kind of important info but honestly, I still support freedom of speech and that goes before anything else at this point in my life.

MCF is not = P2P.
Kent is not = Nick

Completely different things and people.
Fortunately.

It is a shame when valid concerns are censered, and not allowed to be openly discussed. I also was put on mod review, reason unknown, but apparently they are now taking my form of posting not acceptable, but I still post, some are approved by the king, some arent for what ever reason, but I will always speak out for freedom of speech where ever I can, they will just have to deal with it. I do believe that if MCF could control any part of p-2-p we would have serios problems, as Kent has said Chris is on mod review, which means that any time he posts in the support area, it is read by some one and it is up to them as to whether to allow it or not and that is not right in any way, shape, or form, they are in effect limiting Chris in the performance of his p-2-p duties as a support personal. There was a post that one said they liked a (regulated forum) well all I have to say is that person is a prime candidate for living in China and would blend in very well.

Layton

Does anyone wonder why payments that used to be made "ALWAYS within a 48 hour timeframe"...http://web.archive.org/web/20070809101907/...mp;page=faq.php

...now, despite the more "relaxed" terms......are taking sixteen, slipping to seventeen days? Perhaps if you look at the Alexa ratings all will become clear:



http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_...&size=Large

How long until payments slip further then cease altogether? If you have money in there, and you are fortunate enough to get paid, take your money out and consider yourself lucky.

wow Layton you are on "mod review" also..?? again you and I have not always agreed but I have and will state. You are a honest man.

PN the reason for the change in terms was explained in a post from Nick, if you would like I will be more then happy to try to get it for you.

Payments are behind by one day the last I had heard. They last payouts I knew about was for the March 6th pending, and today is a holiday for some not to mention a Sunday.

Alexa rating...wonderful. Great the views are going down. Ok so. If you go way back to the April June time frame I think you will see a up turn then a down turn.
Any how the point being, yes if this were a Ponzi I think now would be the time to get nervous. I will not disagree with you on that one. Now I have a question for you. Looking at the Alexa chart, and if I am not mistaken using your logic. P2P should be crashing and burning any day now...or in a few weeks anyhow...
I will be here in a month if I am right and P2P is not a Ponzi as I have claimed will you?

Now I am not looking to upset you or challange you just wondering if or when you might consider a program not a ponzi. Is there a time frame or a Alexa chart you can point to me so I can study up on what to look for.
I really would like to know how to accurately forecast a ponzi site.


Thank you

jerr

I'll be here. P-2-p will be even further behind, if, and that's a big if, it is still paying at all. I expect you'll have run away by then - most of the cheerleaders usually do when it becomes clear to all that the game is up. If you do have the guts to stick around, though, it'll be interesting to see what you have to say.

Hi Jerr,

I thought I would bump this post made by mcozy which would help to understand the Alexa Rating chart.... I think it kinda got lost in all the drama...

Thread here been taken over by Trolls.

Naysayers that have been troling for over a year now. so in hopes that one day they might be right in that the program ended. and at 60% ANY and ALL programs will one day close. thats just the financal reallity behind 60% a month.

PonziN is just hoping this time around his timing might be right, hang in there mr nemesis it may only be anouther year or two for you to be right LOL TROL.

I am an investor in P-2-P. I have withdrawn over 5 times what I started with, so I am a happy camper.

Bear in mind that Nick is now handling most of the withdrawals himself. His main assistant, Donnie, is out for about a month on personal issues. Some of the members make errors in their withdrawal requests which take up a lot of Nick's time to straighten out. When the 48 hrs was part of the FAQ's there were only a couple of thousand folks invested in P-2-P. This number has rapidly grown. New people were hired and needed to be trained. They, too, make mistakes. Nick is now sticking fairly close to published schedule. Nick works seven day, but the employees do not. Nit-picking the time frame does not make it a ponzi.

Nick certainly is not going to divulge his sources of income. If he did - we could all do it ourselves and we would not need P-2-P. Merchants do not post their suppliers. If they did, there would be no business, because everyone could buy from the same sources.

As to Nick's former businesses - well - look at it this way....people go into business with the best intentions, bit sometimes they are not successful. Business owners learn by their mistakes and failures. Eventually they will get a "winner" if they persevere and "don't give up" Nick has found the "goose" this time. How long will it last? Who knows - I imagine until his sources of income dry up, if they ever do. Casinos are big business and the worse the economy becomes throughout the world- the more people gamble. If you will read through the entire website you will see that Nick invests through others. They diversify, so all his "eggs are not in one basket". I feel fortunate to be part of P-2-P, and hope it lasts for a long time.

By the way - if UNLIMITED wants to post about the plans of P-2-P, then he should get his facts straight. In the first place one account holder cannot re-invest over $25,000. They can
ask permission to open a second account to invest their interest from the $25,000 allowed.
They cannot do so without permission. Where do these thousands and millions come into play?

Also, Nick resides as well in Turks and Caicos Island in the Carribean. That is well known tax haven for offshore investments. You don't think for an instant that Nick is so dumb that he would have the bulk of his earning in Canada. If for some unforeseen reason, the Canadian Government stopped him from taking Canadians as investors, then that would make a dent in the numbers of members, but Canada is ONLY one country in the world and P-2-P is world-wide.

As to CVKINT ho-hum. Your rhetoric is tiresome - same old crap over and over again. Give it a rest!

Virgee2008

Wow PN, you almost sound hostile with me. Yea sure I will be here (God willing) sure and heck if I am wrong we can talk about it

Guts, well I don't know I guess we will see. Cheerleader...me??...wow I guess if posting that I have been paid and am in the profits while asking for facts to be discussed makes me a cheerleader. Then yes guilty as charged.

Now once again if you would be kind enough to explain how to spot a ponzi site I really would like to know. I am just trying to find a way to make some legal money. (stop till a judge says something is illegal, it is legal)
My primary purpose on visiting this and other forums is to try to gather knowledge. If you would be willing to assist in my quest thank you.

Alwaysowen thank you for the information. Once again I would point out...Alexa ratings mean what?? Not pointing at you Alwaysowen, I believe a Alexa rating ranks the number of hits a given site gets. I could be wrong but I do not think a Alexa rating will show how much in assets any company has.

So that would be proof of what. Proof that fewer people are looking at the P2P site. Ok I would agree with that.

jerr

My timing is uncannily accurate. Look how I warned people about Minvestment and Golden Purse, for example. P-2-p is headed the same way soon - I'm currently predicting failure next month, but I can tell you one thing:

P-2-p is about as likely to survive another year or two as Osama bin Laden is going to be voted the next president of the United States.

"Also, Nick resides as well in Turks and Caicos Island in the Carribean. That is well known tax haven for offshore investments. You don't think for an instant that Nick is so dumb that he would have the bulk of his earning in Canada. If for some unforeseen reason, the Canadian Government stopped him from taking Canadians as investors, then that would make a dent in the numbers of members, but Canada is ONLY one country in the world and P-2-P is world-wide."







I was kinda wondering when someone was going to point that out. Thank you Virgee2008

This day I could prove that ' PonziNemesis ' was always right

PN you made a prediction about two other sites. Good for you. Please tell me you are not basing your knowledge of when P2P will collapse based on the results of two sites.

If the knowledge you posses is so good surely you could walk me through many many sites that you have made a prediction on.

Heck at one time a person could buy a house in Pheonix and make a profit..it really did not matter where they bought but surely they do not posses the knowledge of how to make money off houses now..

jerr

So u saying that if your claims of a program ending are within a year and half time frame you are then promoted to grand poobah insight seeier of all ponzies.
wow you are good then LOL LOL .
and your pretiction of Osama becoming president now thats something to take pride in.

So as you look into your cristal ball over this next year with claims of program ending. the rest of us will be visiting the bank.

I am not free to discuss everything I need to say here. MMG has strict rules, leading to warnings and bans, when it comes to making negative statements about any of these programs.

However, if you are seriously interested I suggest you read through my past posts both here or on Talkgold. Also you may find it useful to visit one of the anti-Ponzi sites such as http://www.victimsagainstscams.org/

If you leave your money in this, good luck. You'll need it. I know one thing for certain - when this goes down most people will have lost money, and that those people who pay in towards the end will have lost more than the early "investors".

Thank you PN I will have a look at your link above. Honestly I have a feeling I should read it with some un interrupted time. It will be read, if I have a question I will PM you, unless that would offend you.

jerr

I will start to read the link right after this post is sent

I don't like such discussion here.. It is like stupid childish dispute.. In many forums it refers to "off-topic" & "trolling". I'm sure this is very irritating to many MMG users and visitors. Don't you think that most of members here probably don't dare to post anymore?..or it was planned so?

I am a little confused on that one. Most of what I have read in this thread at MMG does apply directly to P2P in my opinion. Some members have one point of view, others have a different one. Yes there is some repetitive comments but still. This thread is one of the better ones I have seen that talks about P2P. Both sides seem to be able to voice there feelings.

JMHO

jerr

Paid 8.march request. Nice

Congrats Monalisa!



Yes, Jerr, exactly - the repetitive comments. I'm not talking about stating different opinions from different users, that's normal. I was offline for over a week, when I visited this thread again and read all those "fresh posts" here (all4webs dianic links, whois of P2P, alexa rating pics and about "OSC "OPINION" P2P is a scam" etc etc..), it seemed I never left this thread.. LOL

sorry surf I now understand your position and agree with the repetitive comments are not necessary in my opinion.