dunno----seems a little unprofessional to me. Guess if I was to join P2P I'd probably join under someone like Layton----he's about the only one in the program that doesnt use his head only for a hat rack it seems..

How about "let's" not do anything together.

And I'm sorry you feel so bullied

Actually, this has not been proven a fact. Yes, you said you called the OSC and asked them to view the website. And yes, you said the person you spoke to said it looks like a scam. But what you got was that persons opinion based on very little information. Have you never heard the expression, 'don't judge a book by it's cover'? This is exactly what the people being asked to look at the site, and give their opinions on, are doing.

It would be far more accurate for you to say, "It is a fact that someone from the OSC has given their opinion that P-2-P looks like a scam" Or even, "It is a fact that someone from the OSC has given their opinion that P-2-P is illegal." Since you and others have said over and over, it is not the job of the OSC to investigate nor prosecute, it is the job of the Mounties, you can only take what the OSC people say as opinion, not fact. So, frankly, until they come out and says that an investigation has been done, and their findings are that P-2-P is illegal, your facts are all about other people's opinion.

Look, I don't mean to argue. I'm open to all points of view about this. But you should really stop saying the OSC said it was a scam/illegal (after only viewing a web page) as proven fact, when in reality, it is only an opinion.
l\/l

Oh btw, let me know when your birthday is, I'll post a Happy Birthday wish for you!



I agree 100% .... opinions... opinions... opinions... sadly enough thou the naysayers will totally disagree hence the negativity being posted by them!!

Hello Cvkint, i,m guessing* more women work in the USA than men

I was waiting for someone to post something like this. If I may add, although I am not a Canadian I am confident a judge or jury would have to view the evidence of an allege violation of any law. They would then pass their judgment if something illegal is going on.
But again I could be wrong, My post was merely my opinion.

jerr

Is MCF under a DDOS attack? This thread still sucks.

MCF is changing servers.

Being new and all, been reading the good the bad and the ugly. Have some observations to make;

1. cvkint, who appointed YOU as a advisor of anyones money??? You only ever REPEAT the same old crap, no real FACTS or real PROOF, you ask for proof but do NOT provide any yourself. It's MY money to risk, not yours. Bet your not a gambler

2. Do you have any money in this program?? If not how can you in all honesty have a opinion about anything done here?? It is NONE of YOUR business---- I NEVER appointed YOU my money advisor. Have one of those, and was told "It's a risk, but if you do-- Just do NOT use more than you can lose."

3. Answer the question above--- what programs do you support??? AND have any money in?? Do you have physical proof the are "real"--- real documentation?? And is that real??

4. I am gathering information, and all I can really tell is you and one other just repeat the same line of BS over and over and over. Kinda looks like you all like the sound of your own voice.

I do not know if any thing will ever last, check out the stock market, but this looks like a fair chance to try. It can't be any worse then surf programs . Wait----------------- cvkint--- do you believe in them????

Think after ALL the reading and researching I will put some money into this. So PN and cvkint can Rant all they want, they acually made me MORE interested, sounds like sour grapes on thier end. :o


So happy P-2-P ing!!

Completely agree, and is all i have been trying to saying in regrards to these type of posts left here.

I remember back in November when CVK-trader J was doing his rant in MCF that he responded to a question that he was a member of P2P. So he was either lying then or is lying now. If you go back to the November posts I'm sure you can find it.

great first post. If I was a cynical person----which I'm not-----I would suspect that perhaps you have logged in under a new username---but that's not allowed so I know you wouldnt do that. Like have 2 accounts ya know.

I guess reading comprehension was not your best subject in school?

I see you dragged me into your arguement for some reason.

Learn the lesson from King Canute. The tide will always win.

WELCOME to the P2P family 'LittleBopper'. Glad to have you with us.


All STALKERS really are very stubborn. When they got obsessed to someone, they will never stop. you'll still see them around for a long time yacking.

The trolls rant and people join P2P. Isn't that fun? The trolls are actually sheep, cheerleaders and referral w****s all wrapped in a P2P bow!

Welcome to P2P littlebopper!!

Hi L B be sure you read the Faq before opening up your account get your alertpay or solid trust pay account open and bank verified first, if you don't buy a plan your p2p account will go pending in ten days and you have to go to support in MCF to get it re-activated.

Well holy @%*&!! Look at this folks!! cvkint just recruited a new member in P2P... LMAO!!!

Excellent work cvkint! I didn't know you had it in ya!!

Welcome littlebopper to the P2P family!! I think you'll fit in just right!

Oh btw littlebopper, I hope you used cvkint's ref link when you joined ... oh wait... he's not an active member... oh well, his loss your gain!

Well, let's just all wait shall we..?


That is..for PN's fearless prediction that this will all crash soon in the next couple weeks.

He says ..if I recall..that he's never been wrong before.

If he's right, we can always hear the : "I told you so's"


In the end, who really gives a rodent's behind if PN et al. is right?

Let them have their fun in this thread or any other for that matter.

Play p2p like a game whether you really believe in its legitimacy or not.

Expect some of the "naysayers" to continue with the fight as long as ref ids are displayed.

Personally, I'm not knocking the ref ids as it's everyone's right--but do expect opposition from those who oppose because they feel they have to present the other side.

Does make for a very active thread though.

my two cents.

Edit: Personal Attack

Please don't post a reply just to attack a member

One more time for the reading impaired....

I have NEVER claimed ANYWHERE at any time that I had proof that P2P was a SCAM.. if you can provide such a reference I will happily retract and apologize.. what I said was it is operating illegally in Canada.. that is FACT...

It is NOT an opinion when the gov't body of the country they are located in says they are illegal that is fact.

They don't need to see inside the site they can see that Nick is offering to pay people profit on invested money.. regardless of whether he piggy backs it sticks it in a hole in his backyard as long as he takes in money with NO product changing hands and returns that money with a profit he MUST be registered to do so in Canada.. as he is not, the program is operating illegally it's a simple matter of case law.



You take whatever you need to make you feel better.. they are the people that determine if something needs to be registered to do business.. they don't offer opinions on it, they determine based on the criteria set out by the laws... P2P needs to be registered.. period.



Well it seems to you do want to argue as you are mixing up two issues which has been made clear many times. The OSC has said in their "OPINION" P2P is a scam.. but under THEIR legal criteria for registration the information on the webpage is enough to proof they need to register at they are NOT... so that makes them illegal.. that is NOT opinion but it is indeed fact...

Again this has been made clear many times.. yet people jump on me for posting the same information if you are so tired of that information why keep asking the same questions?

Why not ask yourself the most simple question of all.. IF Nick is clean and legal as he says why can't he offer any proof? Think about why in the would would he want all this back and forth posting his reputation being called into question etc.. if was operating with a legal business registration and with a legal license.. it defies all logic. Any business in Ontario that needs to be licensed must maintain that license in a place their customers can see..

Even more interesting if you (any of you) are so interested in facts all of a sudden where are your facts about what Nick says? When I offer up something from the OSC you say "oh it's just their opinion" but when Nick offers up things that are beyond all human logic you all just nod and say yeah must be a fact Nick said it... the door does in fact swing both ways in this case.

It's odd how in all the posts I have made I have said many times that if Nick could PROVE what he is doing, if he could show he was the real deal and not just another in a long line of online scam artists I would be a happy and long term member, so obviously my criteria for spending my money is different than yours... but when you say I am here only to troll or only to cause trouble you really diminish your point of view.. as you can see I am responding to a direct post...

I have no interest in replying to all the same old boring "me too" posts that followed the one I've quoted so those of you that jumped all over this one saying yeah that's right..sorry it's not...






your other points were just more of the same old same old being rehashed that have been asked and answered if you care to read back in the thread..

As to the above.. Good for you.. if you've read and learned and you're comfortable with putting your money (or more money) in to this... so be it. I've said many times I am not trying to change anyone's mind..simply offering up the other side to the UNproven claims that Nick makes over and over..

Sorry you lost me on the sour grapes part...but the point remains it's your money spend it where you wish never said otherwise..

I have never here, so I am totally a brand new person. I had a hard enough time getting this account set up!! Why would I need two???

I understand some people will NEVER get it thru thier heads that no matter what they say no one is listening.

I guess I should ignore the posts, however it really is annoying to see the same BS and no facts/proof. Yet they demand the facts/proof.

I really want to know what programs cvkint does think are worthwhile and legal. It would be real interesting if they even reply, with proof of legality and investment.

I have been sll over P2P, and figured out how to get going, guess I get to join all the other fools???
Well I will laughing all the way to the bank if this does payout.


Guess I will have to find a P2P friendly forum, I really do not like reading foolish BS

My Cash Forum is the main P2P forum littlebopper. It's changing servers at the moment but should be back online shortly. You can go there for all of the P2P info. There's a lot!! And a bunch of really excellent, helpful members.

Back when cvk was ranting in MCF people did some DD on him and found he was promoting some program that made money through online poker. The person who ran the online poker program was an admitted gambling addict and had lost people money in the past. I'd think I'd rather put my money into P2P...a program that has been paying for over a year...has paid out more than it has taken in...rather than a program run by a gambling addict.

that could actually work..but where's the fun in that?

just teasing..LOL!

Nice try champ... you see this is what is called making up lies...first of all online poker is LEGAL... secondly you found a banner on a forum I co-own that does NOT make me the promoter... ask MMG if all the banners they post they are promoters of??

You see if you're going to post stuff at least try to get your facts straight...

Very funny indeed... all you do as a group is ***** that I post.. yet you go out of your way to drag me back into your crap.. as if I would sit by and let a total lie be told without correcting it..

I have said many times and you've seen it... I stop posting when you stop referencing me and my posts.. seems you guys have little to no willpower....

I do not know how to shorten the qoute-- sorry.


If you have the information From OSC, then please let us know the following: 1. Who you spoke to, preferably the full name?. 2. date/time 3. number you called. please. This is easy to check

OH and will you kindly answer what programs are you interested in and are worthy of your time and money??


The only thing I need proved is the money payment issue. I could believe my stockbroker about a company that provides proper paper work and it they could still take me for everything I have. I really do not see all that much difference. At least here I have the sense to only risk a amount I can afford to lose, with the stock market or stock broker I could lose it all with No control. And $100 is worth the risk. If I make that back plus some how do I lose??

You could not join?? or are you afraid to risk, what $100 to prove everyone wrong?? or did YOU get refused?? or had your account -- oh what is the word?? yess suspended?? That is the sour grapes part.

Enough said, some people will never listen to what you or I say. They have to find out for themselves. It's after all why there is the freedom of choice.

You do come off as a holy roller, and sound like you are trying to change peoples minds. Why can't you just give up and realize people will do as they wish. Find a new topic to beat to death.

Now off to have fun, I may be back. However I really do NOT like preachy people. Must learn to skip the post by them.
Wonder how you can do that??

any one know a forum where I do NOT have to see this type of posting?





You people type faster than I do!!

Guess I will check out the other forum, opps gotta work this weekend, so do it monday.

cvkint--- you will probably never answer about worthy programs-- well what you consider worthy.

No problem... just take the last quote tag looks like this [ / quote ] (without the spaces of course) and put it wherever you want.. it will only quote between the two tags...



I have posted that a number of times in this thread already.



I will not do that here, I am not looking for referrals and I am not going to hi jack this thread... plus most people that are involved with P2P and programs that offer such returns generally do not care about the types of returns that are made in legally licensed programs..



you might not.. but if a program is illegal what about the people after you that do lose? Some people care about that, some don't... it's a personal choice and one each person has to make for themselves.



Sorry you'd be wrong I have stated this as well before I did join and I did fund my account and I did receive one payment.. when I learned the facts I now know I could not accept making money in that way personally so I donated the proceeds.. never been suspended to my knowledge although haven't tried to log in, in a long long time...



Yes you are very right.. everybody has to do what is best for them, based on their own moral judgements.. have never claimed otherwise...



Holy Roller? Hmmm ok.. not even sure what that is.. I am replying to posts... give up what? I am not allowed to post now? I have asked before this thread is about P2P what about all the people that just post foolish nonsense in here, happy birthday, you know what's coming and so forth and so on.. they are NOT on topic at all, but you don't seem to have an issue with them.. if they were talking about the program discussing it etc.. I could see that, but they are simply trying to get their referral links seen more often.. which is pretty lame.



I don't know if this board has an ignore function but it is pretty easy to just skip someone's posts if you prefer not to read them.



You mean you only want to see ONE side of the story? Well in P2P's case you can go to MCF it's totally censored and the don't like anyone to inject any reality or ask any hard questions.. but I understand as it's their 'official' forum.. but likely NOT the best place to get unbiased answers...



I've answered this time and time again, I'm not here to refer anyone to anything..and I have told many people in PM etc where to find gov't registered legal programs that pay better than Bank rates.. yes most of them are market based so of course there is an element of risk but what isn't their risk in? I think even the more ardent cheerleader will admit that tomorrow P2P could be gone... such is life... you have to pick what is right for you.

Oh my if that isn't the biggest line of BS...

too funny!

Hey McPee....think this will get me a referral????? Afterall, clapping hands aren't exactly

relevant to P2P!! I sure hope so, darn!!! All those thousands I'm earning on my

2% a day, is just not enough!!!!

Shame on me for being so greedy!!!!

And to P2P littlebopper!!!! Great to have you here!!!

Hey Tree, you can't clap! Where's your integrity??!!

Don't you know that we need to flame P2P and all it's members to gain referrals?

I guess you're not so bored anymore huh? Actually I realize YOU and facts have never met.. but all one has to do is read back in this thread and you will see once people stopped asking me questions, referencing me in posts or lying about me in posts I didn't bother to post.. it's ok I know reality is not a place you're aware of.. but the facts speak for themselves... once they continue to make blanket and lie filled posts I get back into the mess...

Why not try it? Seriously let's see if YOU and all the rest of the cheerleaders can go even ONE DAY without referencing me or my posts... ONE day... I can promise you the second you stop spreading lies and misinformation about a post I've made I will not respond.. but I sure as heck will when people take facts and try to twist them around to suit their purposes...

I've made this offer before and once you (collectively) stopped so did I... it's 10:30 AM where I am.. I'll check back in 24 hours.. lets see if you've manged to keep me out of your little obsession....

Hey Cvkint, You still have not* replied to my post! Do more women work in the USA than men? i say women

What are you 12? Now we're playing talk show games? Geez...you're scrambling

Since I merely had to glance at the above to see that you're once again, full of baloney, having delusions of grandeur and holding court...let's get back to your original statement which was:



That's a lie. Get over it.

People refrence you in posts because of the things you say.

You WERE promoting the poker site because when I hit the link you were the referrer and you would of received the comission had I signed up. A little different than a banner on your site that you have no involvement with.

Sure online poker is legal. So are Nick's offshore investments. There's no difference between investing with Nick or with the guy who plays poker with the money. Same kind of program...just different ways to make money. Personally I'll stick with Nick and keep making money-rather than Mr. Compulsive gambler. Maybe I should call the OSC and see what they think about the poker guy.

Back in November during your MCF rant you said you WERE a member of P2P? So what happened? Also during your November rant you said you were tired of Nick spreading lies about YOU. What lies were you talking about? Nick didn't know you from Adam. I think your delusional.

Then a couple months later you said your lawyers told you not to comment on P2P. Let me guess...All the P2P payouts made you jealous with rage. You just couldn't resist. Did being a stalker and spying on Nick's house get boring. No wonder people refrence your posts. Your actions are very creepy. I think you need some help.

Bottom line people...this guy is going to make his comments whether you refrence him or ignore him. Hopefully MCF will be back up soon. If you people want to make money check out the sites Kent Black recomends and don't listen to the swamp people. Your wallett will thank you.

Requested payment just now... will post when paid.
I haven't been to MCF in ages, but it seems they are about 2 weeks on payouts?

That's about right Halebopp

All is Good* This Good Friday

Just Buzzzzzzzzzzing in to say


WELCOME to the P2P family 'LittleBopper'. Where anything and everything is possible with the help of like minded P-2-P'ers from around the world.

regards

HNV


Ask, Believe and You too Will Receive...





Good Saturday here.................

HNV

Well maybe it will be a little less aggressive over the Easter bank holiday as the Captain of Industry that is know as cvkint or skint or whatever, has flown undoubtedly first class to deal with one of the biggest global banks in Hong Kong. For someone who's website is as dull as ditchwater, with no updates whatsoever since last November and was bought from NameCheap.com, I find this hilarious.

To have any respect you just have to have some substance, bit thin on the ground here. And before you launch into a sarcastic tirade at me, cvkint, you should have apologised for your rudeness to me in another forum, with absolutely no knowledge of my background. No doubt you'll have wi-fi in the Shangri La, the food is excellent there by the way.

Hi,

I have been reading and reviewing the information on P2P lately. I see some people are reporting that P2P is investing into online poker-gambling sites as others said investing in several offshore casinos etc. It does bother me one big FLAW part about expiry it said it takes 5 to 10 business days. It is ridiculously and un-necessary time amount to complete since casino and online poker are very high probability and it should pay within 24-48 hours after expiration! It has shown me obviously, it is real PONZI scheme! I have seen many different programs that pays slowly etc and it will not going to survive. Whoever got into it early last year are very fortunate but whoever are planning to join P2P soon which it will be their nightmare and bad timing.

I am not here to babysit you but I am giving you intelligent facts how it does operates.

Be careful about timing and investing into P2P at this stage.

Thanks

Dejavu

Can´t believe this time we were not adviced to call the OSC, the SEC and their mothers

I did research some info on P2P via google search and found very interesting information. Now P2P is having some problems paying as what other members have reported. We will see P2P going demise real soon! I know you will ignore and laugh at me. Let you enjoy your days for while soon time is up
It is showing very obviously PONZI scheme!

!



The “investors” in Pathway-2-Prosperity are all about to hit the jackpot with their small investments… and if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. Recently I’ve received several invitations from current participants to join P2P in my mailbox. There are also a lot of buzz going around on the forums regarding this investment by its supporters, so I have decided to investigate.

Once again, in my opinion, I feel another big scam is in the makings. The only pathway that P2P is leading this big group of lemmings (3182 members at last count) is off the cliffs, right after their pockets have been emptied of spare change. It still amazes me how many people out there will forgo logic once greed sets in with promises of a fast buck. The lessons are never learned of past scams.

Just reading the FAQs on the P2P site makes by bones shiver and the hairs on my neck rise. Take for example.

Is this a HYIP program like others I have seen?
No - never! If you read the content of “P-2-P Network” and the H.Y.I.P. report you will see that we do not believe in H.Y.I.P. and the systems that 99% of these operators follow. It is fairly easy to see - look at the interest some of them offer - ridiculous! Taking money from one to pay another is a highly illegal practice. Investing in H.Y.I.P. systems is totally a risk you take (a risk we do not take). The funds you place in “P-2-P Network” is genuinely invested and real returns are paid.

Yet, halfway down the page some fantastic returns are listed. They have four different investment plans. There is a 7, 15, 30 and 60 day plans with a 1.5 - 2.5% respectively per day in interest depending on the plan.

“60 Day Plan” - You earn a Net Profit of 2.5% daily for the 60 days, on top of your initial investment, thus if you choose to make a withdrawal, you would receive a return of 60 x 2.5% = 150% PLUS your initial investment !!

And they give an example as to what a $100 dollar investment will do.

Here is an example of $100.00 invested in the “60 Day Plan”……..
$100.00 x 2.5% = $2.50 x 60 Days = $150.00 PLUS your initial investment of $100.00 = $250.00

Ok, I see how it works. It is a return of 150% every 60 days. (This isn’t ridiculous is it?) Let’s do a little math shall we? Just suppose an investor started with $1000 dollars to begin with. There are 365 days in a year, so that is 6 rounds of 60 days if he chooses to invest in the “60 Day Plan” and re-invest at the end of each 60 day cycle.

* 1st 60 days = $ 2500.00
* 2nd 60 days = $ 6250.00
* 3rd 60 days = $ 13,125.00
* 4th 60 days = $ 32,812.50
* 5th 60 days = $ 82,401.25
* 6th 60 days = $205,078.13

There you have it; you can turn $1000 into $205,078.13 in the span of ONE year using the 60 Day plan. It gets even better if you have a longer timeframe and are not in a big rush to withdraw your new found wealth. Let’s see what happens if you reinvest the $205K for 6 more cycles in the second year.

At the end of the 6 cycles of the second year, wait, make sure you are sitting. You will become a multi-millionaire with a whopping $59,603,644.78! You make all this money from a paltry $1000 dollar investment. Retire in style in 2 years. Wait, why stop here. Don’t you want to make the Forbes list?

If you reinvest those millions in their 60 day plans again. At the end of year number 3, you will become a multi Billionaire! $14,551,915,228.37 Billions to be exact. Bill Gates, eat your heart out. You will be joined by 3,182 new billionaires. And collectively, if all these members followed the same plan with $1000 dollars, it will make the largest mutual fund in the world pale in comparison at P2P’s assets at $46 Trillion dollars.

So did you all get that? Google some “compound calculators” and do the math yourself. “It is fairly easy to see - look at the interest some of them offer - ridiculous!” is an understatement, right from the horse’s mouth.

Okay, so what does this all mean? You are still not convinced that there is something fishy going on? Well, let’s move on and take a look at that web page again.

We know that Nicholas Smirnow is the admin of this program and website. The same name is listed for Pathway-2-Prosperity.com, which seems to be in limbo since October 21, 2006. We will get back to this.

If you look at the scripting and verbiage on Pathway-2-Prosperity.net, it may ring a bell if you have been in the “HYIP” arena any length of time. It is the same exact wording found on many hyip scams in the past. Oddly enough, if you do a Google search on this sentence, “same software that HYIP scammers use” from one of the paragraphs on P2P’s site, one particular scam comes up. Here is the search result. And if you click on the Google cached link for InvestPlace, you will see the cloned verbiage that P2P is using.

InvestPlace

Investplace.com was a huge scam. If you do a search on Investplace in all the hyip forums you see that thousands of members have lost money in it. The admin shut it down and disappeared with their money. Like most of these scams, of course, there were those that made some money in the early stages just to bait in the losers in the end.

So what does this have to do with Nicholas Smirnow? Is he the one and the same admin for Investplace.com? I’ll let you decide, but I can say he was involved.

We know that Mr. Smirnow is working under various company names and usually use the name of “rddirect” as his alias or username in various programs and on forums. I sure hope the word “DIANIC” stands for Diane, his wife and Nic, because you’ll get a good laugh if you do a search on it.

Nicholas Smirnow / CEO
R.D. DIRECT Marketing Group
N.D.S. Enterprises
DIANIC Holdings International
801-795-7976 (Business Voicemail)
908-325-7292 (Fax)
rddirect_biz@yahoo.ca
rddirect@veretekk.com
rddirect_NoBrokenPromisesHere@yahoo.ca
smirnow@sympatico.ca
admin@Pathway-2-Prosperity.com

Now go to this site and see all that he was and is involved in.

http://all4webs.com/v/t/dianic/

Towards the bottom of the page, what do you see? First on the list of “The Heavy Hitters” you will see Investplace being promoted.

THE HEAVY HITTERS !!!!!

[edit]DO NOT POST REFERRAL LINKS HERE![/edit]

I suppose Nicholas Smirnow forgot to update this page. Which brings us back to Pathway-2-Prosperity.com, because in itself is not a big deal, but holy cow, how many programs has Nicholas been involved in that hasn’t panned out? I must be missing something because according to Nicholas, he is a real successful businessman as stated in his personal note on this site. Note the rate of return on this posting is 250% for the 60 day plan. This page also says he is good friends with Sir Richard Branson, the multi-billionaire. Somebody care to call Sir Richard?

http://www.turnkeyplan.com/autosurftraining/p2p_help.htm

Last, but not least I find it interesting the great extent that transparency is being avoided. I don’t know about anybody else, but when I invest a large sum of money with someone, I need to at least see a business plan, and offering memorandum or at least a prospectus. If nothing else, a receipt or contract with a signature and address of whom I have placed money with.

Is “P-2-P Network” legal?
Legal and clean! Although every country has different views on foreign investments, “P-2-P Network” operates in a jurisdiction where it is 100% legal to manage private funds and investments internationally. If you are unsure whether you are allowed to participate in your country, please ask a registered advisor of your rights to participate in private investments, clubs, funds and loan clubs (these are the categories it legally falls in).

Where might this jurisdiction be? Well, if you ping www.pathway-2-prosperity.net, you get 83.98.157.119. A Whois lookup reveals that this domain is hosted in Amsterdam, NL. I now feel much safer. The hotbed of the Nigerian bank and lottery scams.

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I am not quite sure what the connection is with Cynthia Minton of LucidityHosting in Florida. They either physically host the site in Florida and the IP is provided by ROKSCOM for an overseas appearance, or it is actually hosted in Amsterdam and LucidityHosting was just the reseller.

P2P has a business phone number in Nevada, a home number in Ontario, Canada and a website hosted in Amsterdam. Without an address, do you think you can recover your money if something catastrophic happens with no legal proof?

There are definitely too many red flags, but once again OWI leaves it up to you the reader to make your own best judgment. Known public information is presented here. If you think you can become a billionaire, from the rate of returns they have proposed; no one is stopping you. Do the due.

Hi unlimitedearnings, what you have posted has been covered more then once. If you would like I can explain some of the points to you.

Now on a different note. March 6th pending are being paid out.

jerr

Jerr...sent you a pm...Gerry

@unlimitedearning:
This stuff has been covered many times, that doesn't mean its not valid information for the potential Investor (cough) just that its old news.

No offence intended but please credit your sources when you copy a web page verbatum. Oneworldincome I think it comes from.

Just Buzzzzzzing in to say

Hi jerr


The one thing that I have noticed over the last year or so about the likes of these people who post these 'warnings' is that they all seem to be incapable of even the easiest of tasks, ie Getting the FACTS right.

Although I do have some sympathy for them, especially those who obviously haven't even bothered to read what is written, let alone look at their 'mathematical explanations'.....

I suppose as I said on another forum recently 'All the time the Swampies are posting onto the P-2-P threads, they are putting the thread back at the top of the listings, so although yes it is an inconvenience to troll through their dribble, they do at least serve a purpose'.

I'm beginning to wonder what they be using as excuses in say five or ten years time...........

As you can see I don't frequent here often, for various different reasons, mainly because I have a life, one where I like to spend the earnings that I make from the various, honest and ethical businesses in which I am involved.

So as a passing comment, to the Swampies and Cave Dwellers, pray do continue, I for one welcome you....

regards and best wishes

HNV

And your point happens to be what? Are you trying to save some poor soul that cant make an informed decision about what they should do with their funds, if so all that you have said has been said for the most part, so why continually bring it up? Most of the people have already decided to go or not go with Nick, and the ones that decided to go with Nick are happy. If it fails, so be it, as for me I am happy, I have been paid and in profit for over 45k, so all I can really say is eat your heart out, I have the money under my control and you dont, and I came into this with eyes wide open, as as for continiously saying it is going down, well DUHHH, wake up, nothing lasts for ever and nothing you can say or do will ever change that.

Have a nice day doing what ever you do while I continue to enjoy the funds under my control from as you say other members money, well so be it, it still spends very,very well and I have no qualms about doing it.

Layton

well part of it is completely invalid.

every thing from this quote above it not valid

f you reinvest those millions in their 60 day plans again. At the end of year number 3, you will become a multi Billionaire! $14,551,915,228.37 Billions to be exact. Bill Gates, eat your heart out. You will be joined by 3,182 new billionaires. And collectively, if all these members followed the same plan with $1000 dollars, it will make the largest mutual fund in the world pale in comparison at P2P’s assets at $46 Trillion dollars.

What I mean is if you go back to the original post and read down to that paragraph the facts presented have one major flaw.
I think the author should point out you can only have 25k in any investment. There is no way to get the millions claimed unless you were to have multiple accounts.


Yes there are other problems with that post above. Frankly to many to consider it as valid information. I am not trying to be offensive but the fact is the information listed is no valid as in not based on facts.

jerr

For any one that is interested, there is qite an active participation of members in the conference room and the url is in my siggy. It is a good place to interact with other members and to pass on what ever info that can be recieved.


Layton

Hi Layton,

I tried to log on and this is what I am getting...Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) I have Windown XP...thanks, Gerry