What's disturbing about it? Layton has always posted what he wants to post. Some respect it, others don't. Using your words, one could look at it like Nick's been thrown under the bus too. Either way you're glamorizing the whole thing a bit.

LOL, I am sure glad that some one knows me, when for years I havent known myself, thanks for letting me know that you know me, really appreciate that.

Layton

Anybody with $55 can register a business name in Canada that is NOT what we are referring to, in order to conduct the TYPE of business Nick doing he needs a securities license that he DOES NOT have.. you have not seen one and if you have it's a fake. Simply pick up the phone and call the OSC they will confirm it for you. If you are going to claim you've seen it and it's under another name they I say call the OSC and ask if that name is registered to sell securities.. again.. nobody claimed he didn't have business license.. that is much different than an investment license... there is NO compliance involved in registering a business name.



I am not 100% sure what in the world the above paragraph is supposed to me and I don't recall ever saying I knew more than you or anybody else..there are lots of things I don't know. but one thing for sure is Nick does not have a legal business...



Like most businesses that are legal their licenses are posted for the public to see, in Ontario any business dealing with the public MUST have their vendors permit in PLAIN sight in their store.. in the investment business ANYONE offering any type of investment product must have a KYC form signed as well as giving out a prospectus for any investment product that offers a rate of return.. and they MUST be registered with the OSC or have documentation to show they are legally exempt.. Nick has neither...ask the OSC.



Ummm yes actually.. he is offering an investment product, the OSC will tell you point blank on the phone that he is not registered and the business model he has listed on this website needs a license.. they will then refer you to the RCMP to lodge of formal complaint.. not sure why you can't seem to follow that.. but it is getting a little boring for me too having to keep repeating it for you.



Thanks... I don't think I am either.



I have not seen an Energy bank business have you? Or debit cards? I've heard a lot of talk for months and months now but I've not seen anything. Plus he claims his energy bank is registered in the T&C but they have NO business registration for him either.. I have posted the link in the past you'll have to look it up yourself.



My head is fine thanks... BTW I am a member of P2P I joined a long time ago when I was first doing my DD on it and I wanted to see in the back office... I even made a small deposit and got profit on it and then promptly donated the money to a local orphanage, the point was not to make money but to see the inner workings... which just proved to me even further it was NOT real... thanks for your concern but I'm doing just fine.. BTW what is ASAmonitor?

Have a nice night..day, morning.. whatever fits...

Hello dealsonwheels, in the interest of full discloser I would like to say a couple things before I answer your post. I am a member of P2P. I am in the profit at P2P. I have made withdraws to my bank account. I have two referrals, both were brought into the program by me and have not put any of there own money into the P2P program. I do not live in Canada.

Ok now about the business documents I have. No they are not documents that are I think would be issued by the OSC.

They are "BUSINESS NAMES REPORTS" in it is the full name of Nick the business type and a "business identification number" among other items.

Now to you question of are they fake..Well they could be but the money in my pocket could be too. They do not appear to be fake to me but no I am not a expert.

The person who forwarded them to me hired a lawyer to look into Nick and his company before he chose to put money into the program. This person has since joined and not in my down line.

Every day this same person looks into P2P to find anything he can about it.

So if they are a fake, I do not know why they would have been faked. If anyone has a legitimate reason for them to be faked by the hired lawyer or someone looking to invest in P2P. Please let me know.

Now in addition to the business license I have many other items and conversations that I have come across. Every day I choose to look at any information I come across about P2P. If I were to find something that I would prove to me this is not legit I would post it. So far every concern I have read I have been able to track down and find a fair answer to.

Dealsonwheels, you have been around long enough to know the high risk nature of online places, so have I. My only desire is to see honest statements made. People can and will always have there opinion but when a opinion is stated as fact and I know it is wrong, I will post that it is wrong.


jerr

wow nice one cvkint. I couldn't say better.

dear cvkint,

why only this thread. don't you have interest in other opporutunities.

acutally Jody, I never said he was registered at the OSC. You have said....

"Like most businesses that are legal their licenses are posted for the public to see, in Ontario any business dealing with the public MUST have their vendors permit in PLAIN sight in their store.. ."


I have only said I have seen a valid business license.

I quote from the Ontario Ministry site that handles such registrations...

you can register your business name through the public office of the Companies Branch in person or by mail. (Forms are available from the branch or at local Land Registry Offices across the province.) The fee for registering a business name by mail or in person at the Companies Branch is $80. If you register in person, you'll receive your Master Business License (proof of business name registration) immediately; if you register by mail, you'll receive it in 6 to 8 weeks.

I thought it was still $55 bucks like when I registered mine, sorry it's gone up to $80. this is the document you've seen.. it means nothing except he registered a name.. it does not give him the right to offer an investment based business...

Here is another really interesting tidbit just forwarded to me though.. now that Nickie has changed the "name" to a retirement club he is in breach of his business name rules... as to be a "legal" retirement or investment club in Canada one must have fully KYC on all members and each and every member must be fully vested and a say and FULL knowledge of each and every investment the CLUB makes... so Nick managed to break another law while changing his name... hmmmmm wonder what the government thinks about that one...
lets see below..

Under Ontario's Business Names Act, fines of up to $2,000 can be levied against individuals and up to $25,000 for corporations for failure to register or for registering false or misleading information.

Check with the Ministry calling yourself an investment/retirement club is against the law if you do NOT legally meet the criteria they set out... NICK Does not.



I'm sure it is quite real.. as stated it means zero except he spent almost a hundred bucks to register a name.. I've got dozens of names registered.. lots of people do.. it's what you do with the name that matters.



Couldn't agree more, so could you please point me to the proof of Nicks investment license.. or the proof of ownership in casinos.. or better yet how his investments that are making 60% a month and have done so for the last twenty years yet he has managed to NOT make the Forbes richest men in the world list.. I mean he does report his income right? So where ever he pays his taxes would know all about his legit earnings...

I have heard many many rumors about Nick but I never post anything until I've checked it out and can back it up with hard proof that ANY person can check for themselves with an independent third party.

Thanks



You are mixing up your terminology... it is NOT a business license.. that is a business name... you can only have a business license for a specific business...

For example a pharmacy would have a license for that... a plumbing company would have a license for that... having a business license gives one the right to do business in that field..

Unless I am wrong what you have seen is a business name document.. if it IS a business license, why not put us all out of suspense and tell us what BUSINESS Nick is licensed to be doing... it's not investments as that is issued via the OSC...

Looking forward to your reply.

Jody if you are asking if I will point out the above items to you. No I will not. I have already stated I will not put the document out. Feel free to hire your lawyer and have a look if you are inclined. You have your resources and I have mine.

jerr

I just went back and looked at the document again. It has a registation number and states very clearly what the activity being carried out is.

I have asked you to simply answer a very easy and direct question... have you seen a business registration document or a LICENSE pertaining to a specific business? Nobody is asking you to name the business if you aren't comfortable.. but in fact I know you have NOT seen a securities license which is what he needs... I have my own lawyer thanks and we have uncovered lots of stuff about Nick.. and yes we have passed it on to the RCMP.. I think you are not looking very hard if have not been able to find anything wrong... if you honestly want to know feel free to email, as you have taken to using my first name now for some reason you should know where to reach me. so by all means do so and of course identify it's you... and I will send you enough stuff to make you retract the statements of NOT finding anything to make you not trust Nick...



So what is it? Oh right it's a secret.. ok yes or no is he authorized to sell securities with it? The only people that can do that is the OSC you've clearly said its not an OSC document... so while you want to continue to play hide and seek I guess we will just have to assume all you would do by saying the industry he's licensed for would prove it's NOT what he is doing.




Sorry watcher I missed this earlier.. why this scam? Because I can... and because he lives close to me and it was easy to prove all his lies.. and because its easy to do and not time consuming... I have looked at other things in the past and made comments both good and bad about them... depending on what they are... sorry no big dark secret or hidden agenda's like the sheep want you to believe..

can you guys play among yourselves for a while it's late and I need some sleep another long day ahead of me tomorrow... I'll catch up with all your pithy replies later...

Jody one of us will be wrong then. Only time will tell.

At no time did I ever state the Nick has a license to sell securities. I do not deny he does not have a license to sell securities.

The documents I have are not top secret and I never said they are.....assume what ever you wish. You have your very strong views on this subject.

You have your way of speaking and I have mine. Go re read what you have written over the many months about Nick and P2P. Why would anyone want to have a conversation with you.
Like you I do not care if anyone joins this program, my point for my original post was and still is. I do not like non factual statements being presented as fact.

jerr

Can't believe this is my first post here, I'm not expecting a big welcome really.

I belive the P-2-P Network Business Name Report apparently classes the nature of P2P business as:
Online Advertising/Marketing

No mention of Investments--That can't be important can it. ??

I don't know, why are you then?



Everything I have stated as fact has been fact and has been backed up with third party proof anything I have stated as opinion I have made that clear as well.

If you believe this to be wrong please point out where I have not done so and I will do my best to correct the issue...





WELCOME... glad to have you aboard another sane voice in a sea of insanity..

BTW actually it is important, as Nick registered the business for online advertising/marketing and is now running an online investment company under that name, means he will be on the hook for a 25k dollar fine.. I mean assuming anyone reports him the Ministry nobody would do that would they?????

There has been a lot of discussion n this forum about P-2-P and Nick. Many challenges for Nick to prove that he is running a legitimate business. Okay - how about this - Why don't the know-it-all's in here PROVE (without a doubt) that Nick is NOT running a legitimate business? Let's put the shoe on the other foot, for a change. Prove that Nick has not paid out what he promised, and that people have lost money.

virgee2008

You know we have been down this road many times.. where have you been?

NOBODY ever claimed that Nick is NOT paying, he is.. albeit late for some time and I hear he is just now back within his new changed terms.. but that does NOT prove legality it proves he is paying.. they are quite different.

It has been proven MANY MANY times Nick is operating illegally in the province of Ontario. .the ONTARIO government has already said so.. the fact that you don't like that answer or refuse to believe it does not change it.

The number for the OSC and RCMP have been posted many many times.. there is NO DOUBT he is not licensed to be doing what he is that makes it illegal. I can't help if you don't want to accept the Government's work for it..

Simply go back look up the OSC phone number in this thread I can't count how many times it's been posted now... call them ask them to look at the URL for P2P don't ask misleading questions either in the positive or negative as that will not get you the answer you seek.. simply point them in the direction of the site and ask them plain and simple does the company providing the services on that site need to be registered in Ontario.. they will tell you YES... now ask for the registration number of Nick or the company there is NOTHING.. for those that say maybe the company is registered under a different name that is possible, but Nick would still have to be on the documents as the director of the company more so if it for a securities license... so maybe he's using a fake name too huh?

Ok once the OSC has told he is not registered you may ask them what exactly that means.. they will tell you point blank on the phone that means he is running that company illegally.. I don't know what else you need to prove it to you beyond any doubt... I really don't

Whether you care or whether it's all ok with you personally is fine, nobody is questioning that.. .you asked for proof without a doubt. .it's there but you have to make the effort to go obtain it.. that is where most cheerleaders fail.. they simply won't make the effort because they don't want their bubble burst.. that's cool I get it, but it does NOT change the facts...

With asamonitor, i mean the P-2-P naysayers in the asamonitor.com/forum and also mentioned the talkgold forum.

Ok, now I understand what you mean and it's your decision what you will do.
So, I won't care what you post but keep your eyes always open !

Have a nice life...

No need to hire a lawyer...

The OSC's registrant database seach page for securities licensing is here:

http://www.osc.gov.on.ca/Dealers/Registran...st-tc_index.p

You can search for registered company names here:

http://www.gov.on.ca/ont/portal/!ut/p/...d=STEL02_038225

The former is free. The latter costs $8. It can be searched by company name, individual's name, and registration number. Note that per their registration requirements, the name of the trading entity must be registered if different from the corporation/partnership/sole proprietor's name:



Same for partnerships, no need to repeat.

Dear me, I popped into this thread out of interest, I'm not a member.

Your posts are so tiresome.

So what if the program is illegal, most programs in this arena are. Why other programs that got to a certain size have failed earlier than expected is that the admins got to big for their own boots and allowed their real offline details into the public domain. Now so long as this admin has not done this, then the authorities will not be interested in the slightest in what he is doing. They're too busy tracking down people they can find easily.

So what I suggest is, in the interest of variety and to stop me losing the will to live, have a chat with PN and go and find some decent cause to promote, as I would suggest that the majority of members of this program know exactly what they are doing and don't need saving.

Oh, if you manage to turn water into wine, let me know as I'm running out.

I don't know you martinjade but I sure do like the way you think!

No need to know me.

This cvkint (what is all that about) is just driving me to a state of utter tedium. Get a life for god's sake otherwise I and several other forum members will be forced to find a rope for ourselves, or some parafin, or some tablets, your posts are so dull.

LOL RPanoz, again I never said Nick or P2P have a securities license in Canada. Feel free to make any assumptions you like.
P2P has a business registered in Canada that is all I have ever stated.

Some members have said it does not exist. There is a business license for P2P, that was and is my entire point.

jerr

I do! And rest assured he will always be upfront. Period.

Whether others agree with him or not, he will tell it as it is, always according to his points of view.

Without going into any further discussion where I have not found the need to participate, yes... this is turning into something veeeeery

Some stuff over and over and over again regardless of who is right or who isn´t. That´s another story.

i love Canada on TV [VH1]

Hey girl, Looks like the lunatics have taken over the assylum. Time to kick some *** me thinks.

No doubt while I'm asleep ole tedium poster will post his riteous rantings, but hey you can't lock them up 24hrs a day.

Oh Martin, behave yourself now. Be a good boy

This is what forums are after all and depending on the way you look at others posts, you can always learn something new....or not?

hmmm well, may be not always but almost.

yes indeed talk about not having a life posts in a forum can drive you to kill yourself? Wow you really need to see somebody about that.. I feel for you... why is it that sheep such as yourself as so quick to attempt to make things personal... here's a tip for you...listen closely if you see my nick on a post TADA... don't read it.. WOW.. imagine that.. skip it.. move on.. scroll down.. surely someone as witty as you can figure that out.. hahaha..

It really breaks my heart that you find the facts dull.. as repeated many times chap, if the sheep stop posting lies... and people would READ rather than asking the same questions over and over again, that would solve your issue... so in fact you should take up your life threatening situation with people other than I,

Good luck with your therapy.






Hmmmmm you are aware the subject of this thread right? Do you plan anytime soon to post something on topic or continue trying to prove how dull you are while accusing others of having mental illnesses. You are a piece of work, I imagine you kick old ladies too huh? Very nice,

So tell us all about P2P that is what this thread is about... or are you just here to try to derail the facts that are being posting from coming out in the open about this program???

So, Jody (cvkint), how come you couldn't save us all from the scumball that broke EV up? With all the
"hoopla" from Janie putting the program down, surely you would have smelled a rat somewhere like she did.
All EV supporters were SO sure that it was the real deal only to find the money stolen right under everyone's nose.
You were in EV, No? I'm not dissing the real owner just the scumbag that had total control who nobody really knew.

This entire conversation is humorus. p2p is a probable ponzi sheme and that this is a fact. Call the OSC and see what they tell you. 60 percent plus per month. LOL Please get real at least. Again, please call the OSC. This program is a joke at best and looks like a huge ponzi scheme to me. Joining now would be foolish.

This will piss off those that are already in because they know they need new money to pay out the old but ole well.

This will get even more fun soon. p2p is going down the drain.

First it's probable, then it's a fact.

So if I look up "probable" in the dictionary I'll get the same definition as I will when I look up "fact"....?

"Well, it's a fact that it's probable, but it may be probable that it's a fact..."

You are humorous

The second link is for registered business names. If they have a business license (not securities license) then it should be listed there and, according to their registration requirements, it should be listed in the name of the trading business even if the name of the corporation/partnership/sole proprietorship may be different.

Its seems that some people here have the agenda to write against P2P. Its amazing to see you and others only here.

Peewee, call the OSC. You may be shocked by what they tell you. I tihink you and the rest of the cheerleaders are afraid of the truth. p2p is coming down soon one way or the other. Get out now if you can.

lol you are right drillbit call the OSC. They will say exactly what has been posted. Also you made a post. P2P is a probable ponzi that is a fact...Well I guess that depends on what your definition of a ponzi is...but they have paid out more money then has been taken in.

Keep running down the OSC angle, lets see how that works out. Again time will tell.

jerr

Hi

I just dropped by to post the I have been paid. Looks like yesterday for my 28 February withdrawal request..

The is program is definately still paying.. and paying within a reasonable timespan. Thank you linesman, thank you ball boys..

SolidTrust Pay - Your Money, Your Way!

*** Great News ! ***

You have successfully received money from a registered SolidTrust Pay member!
Keep this email as your receipt.

From STPay member email: XXXXXXXXXX
From STPay username: rddirect
Transaction Number: 3195
Amount: $xxx.xx
Details (if provided): Username Dorky

Yahooooooooooooooo

Dorky

Great news, Dorky! Congrats to you!

Wow! Congrats Dorky! Way2Go.

We all know how much you need your payouts to help others and knowing you did it again feels good
Enjoy it!

Edited to add: You could teach others what to do what their time. You have my respect.

WTG!!! Dorky!!

Dorky!!!

I'm happy for you!

I was also paid. Feb 29 request to STP.

Thanks!

Hello , I recently lost my hard drive and I'm getting it back together. I need the website to the forum for p2p. I have a post I need to make on a very long over due cash out. 16NOV2007

Any way I've been paid on all of my positions that was after that so I need to go back to their forum to post this again. Could someone PM me the link.


Thanks
Louis

Hello Louis, support has changed a lot in the last couple weeks. Here is the main link but if you have not been to the thread in a while you may want to look around some before you post.

PM sent

jerr

Thanks jerr but you left out the domain name and that is what I needed.


Thanks
I'll figure it out someway or another.

hmmm let me try this again for ya. PM coming

jerr

Hi 'Dorky'

CONGRATS to you my very good friend.

I rolled over my last matured one for plan 60 days. Has earned my initial deposit for 1200% already and has a good balance rolling.

CONGRATS TOO TO ALL OTHERS WHO JUST GOT PAID AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

Good Day/Evening to all P2P MEMBERS.

Hooray* 4 You Dorky, i talked to Stella at STP yesterday! She said STP has over 20,000 members

again today for a March 1st withdrawal!!!!

Thank you Nick!!!

Congrats on the payouts everyone. I had a plan mature recently and re-invested some and requested a withdrawal with the rest.

Take care

Congrats! Amazing how Nick is catching up!

for those of you who don't frequent MCF there was an update today to the affect that some plans are maturing a day or two early, keep track, leave the money in your account until the maturity date, don't risk having your account suspended.