A ponzi can run for years and years. You are incorrect and there is example after example to back this up with. Please dont try to mislead people. This is just another hyip game that has done well.

Hiya Mike!!!! How's my favoite downline??? hehe... Nice to see you here.


Great post, btw.







Welcome aboard, Ryz!!! I'm sure you'll love it here!!!

BTW there is one more thing, that everyone starting out has a problem with, and that's with the decimal point when buying a plan. If you want to buy a plan for $100.00, just enter
10000 with NO decimal point, otherwise it won't work for you.




And who are you drillbit???? You just joined and all your 5 posts have been in this thread.

It seems to me you have an agenda, and joined for the sole purpose of trolling. Well, I

can tell you right now, it won't work, because NO ONE will listen to you. P2P is PAYING, and

will continue to pay!!!

So stop your trolling, before I report you!!!

P2P members...If you haven't already go to MCF and read updates...then go to "P2P Strategies" and contribute to thread "Well Wishes for Donny" (I think that's what I named it).

And don't tell me that you are going to give example after example... so as to not mislead people...

let the lies commence....

Oh boy!...Let the war of words commence...lol. I think it's time for me to head off to bed.

Goodnight everyone...and congrats to all those paid in reacent hours!!

Oh, it's really no one's fault for "lack of information." The person I was referring to didn't really "refer" me to the program. He just mentioned that one of his friends was doing very well, so it may be worth looking into. Thanks for the personal welcome, though!

Yeah, A3U was just another unfortunate flop. I never personally invested a single dime into it, but one of my business partners lost quite a chunk of money in the whole deal, along with around $27K in CEP. Nasty situation.

That's why you have to be careful in this industry. Once you make money, you can't be greedy or it will come back to bite you.


- Ryz

Ryz, All I can say is that I had the confidence to invest here and the continualconfidence to continually roll over without over and it has paid off to have a maxed account and am working on a second maxed account, and was paid Sunday which makes me in varey good profit and as of my maturity coming up will have another 40k to decide what I want to do with it.

Yes I have been in for a bit, I am in the high/low 400 in the member ship, and no I will not sheer lead and sat this is going to last forever, what I can say is how it has performed for me.Sure, there are red flags all over, and it does look like a trip down memory lane, but in the early days I did have the privalidge og lengthy phone calls from Nick, and that was what built my confidence to not do the usual and pull the initial asap as I usually do, then to continue to pull profit.I just continued to roll in the 30 day plan, then I maxed and then made a good withdrawal which is now paid and on the way to my bank and now building my second account.

One thing I liked is that every 30 days I have all returns wiht initial in my account balance, then I look at how the program has performed and how the glitches/problems has been taken care of, then it is my decision to pull or roll. There is one thing that Nick has done and you dont see other Admins doing it is that when there is a problem with deposit and it is Nicks fault, when it is taken care of, and it has been two or three months before it was taken care of, all accumalated interest that a member would have earned is applied so the member does not have a loss.

Also, I have had concerns and I do bring them up and to this date all have been taken care of to my satisfaction.Oh, yes, there are accusations out there that this is illegal and is a ponzi/scam, but you know with every thing that has happened, suprisingly enough, Nick for some reason has still paid. There are some saying that the latest behind payments are a tru sign it is going down, well at this time I fail to see it, tru when this happens it is a sigm
n, but you know what, Nick is sitll paying, although not caught up, but he is advancint, and is still as he has in the past, making the large payments, medium, and low payments. Sure, other programs continue to pay out up to the very last, but it is really unusual to continue to make all payments as they come due now matter what the amount, and so far Nick with out fail has done that.

In the end game, I am in this to make money and will continue to do so as long as it lasts and secure in the knowledge that I have made good profit and that is what I want and no matter what any one says, I most definately am enjoying the returns to my bank and the detractors apparently are not, and I could really care less, my gain, their loss.

In the end, it is your decision and your's alone as to whether you decide to participate or not, the info is there for you to decide.


Layton

Layton--you seem like a fairly decent guy and quite reasonable. My problem with your postings is that by putting up your numbers that you have gotten back 28K from a 1K spend may entice some people who are in desperate financial straits to think this is a way out for them and they may do something stupid like max out credit cards etc to dump a lot of money into P2P. Youcan tell them over and over to not do stuff like this but you and I know that desperate people do desperate things. People under a financial gun dont act rationally as we all know. I am by nature quite libertarian and a "let the buyer beware kinda guy" but I have seen people get devastated by these type programs and I've lost a couple grand myself in the last 2 yearrs--not devastating but aggravating--and yes--I said oh well what the hell and moved on. Some didnt move on and lost a lot--they were desperate and tried a hail mary to get out of their situation and really got hurt. To not have compassion for these people is sociopathic in my opinion...And to hawk these programs in forums like these in my mind is a terrible thing to do. And can not be rationalized away by saying "dont invest what you cant lose, etc" When this program fails I would hope that the ones who made out will feel a little bad for those that lost out..

It's illogical that all the thousands of members of P2P will get the returns you did---do the math--how many members are in P2P now? To think or worse to hint to others they can get 60% per month returns ad infinitum is in my opinion shameful.

I see no reason for you and others in here to post their returns except to entice others to put in money in hopes of getting the same returns. And to get referral fees which I am also not a big fan of. It reeks of ponzi----sorry---just my opinion...

I still cannot make an upgrade. This is very frustrating. I click "make a deposit to your account balance" on my account summary page, and I get redirected right back to the account summary page. ??? I click on "make deposit" in the client access panel - same thing!

Has anyone made an upgrade recently?

Miss Kitty, when you pickthe plan you want and put in at least 10000 in that format and you click continue or what ever, you will return to the same page, if you will click show investments, if it went through, it will show up there.

Layton

Like Layton said....don't use the decimal. For $100.00, just put in 10000

Hope it works for you.

WWind3- I can relate to what you are saying, it is a shame that people will jump in on the excitement of the moment, but I do not try to get people or talk them into joining. I never say any program will last to infinity I just tell them my experience with it and always say how and what my perception is as of now. I also state that I do have a limit that I woul;d ever put in a program, and win or lose, that is all the actual hard funds I would put and it shows that if you have disposable funds, if your tolerance lell agrees, you can do good as long as the program performs. As for the amounts that I am making, is that not the same as telling everyone that it is illegal and is going to be shut down, a ponzi, a scam and it wont last, when in fact as of this moment it is still performing and me stating that I will be here making money as long as it lasts. I also likie to see people when they have disposable cash, put it in a program that is still performing, then hear the happeness when the do happen to make a profit and are able to help themselves, it does make me feel good, but I never try to convince them, I just show what can happen when a program performs as it should, so that is another side of the DD thing.I dont hype it .


Layton

Hi MissKitty,

I just made an investment yesterday and every thing went fine. Also you may want to check your status to see if you are "active" or "pending"

PM me if you're still having problems!

I think as long as there is a financial backer, this program will stay.
And let it be 2 years, 5 years or longer !
Who knows what will bring the future ?
I also think, when Nick will shut/has to shut this program down at any time, he will pay all his members because he's a honest guy !
And would he really need all the money ?
Therefore i don't understand all these posts regarding this is a ponzi/scam !
For me P-2-P is a professional investment program which is hardly to find nowadays !!!

I just came across your post in the support thread of MCF, Miss Kitty. Go back there, and

give Chris your username. He thinks it maybe because your status is pending.

It seems AO suspected the same problem too. Good job!

If it is truly a professional investment program then Nick should be able to demonstrate how he is able to generate 60%+ returns per month when no investment on the planet I am aware of can do this.

My concern is that he is going to HAVE to explain to some people in Canada and the US how he does it. And some good people probably like you are going to get caught up in something you wont be able to easily get out of. You may soon be in legal jeopardy---and no---ignorance is no excuse...Good luck.....dont spend all the money--save a little for an attorney...

Good* Day Everyone, Maybe St Nick is investing in the country* he came from their economy is Booming

yep----that's probably it nineteen---but just in case he isnt and he gets raided and everyone's records are confiscated---uhhh you may want to cover your tracks now.....just in case......

Good Day* Wwind3, Pathway 2 Prosperity can and hopefully will have huge* impact on the US economy The US has the most people on the net and in all the programs* in my opinion! BTW if you don,t have a TV the media is talking* us into recession! Hey Wwind3, Look at your join date* here then look at mine

Hey, Layton-

Just wanted to say "thanks" for sharing the testimonial.

I still haven't decided what I want to do yet, but I'll inform the crowd when the time comes



Take care


- Ryz

Here's a strategy that some of the New Members might want to employ.

A $100 investment left untouched will Max you out in One Year:

30 DAY PLAN AMOUNT INTEREST RETURN
Jan $100.00 $60.00 $160.00
Feb $160.00 $96.00 $256.00
Mar $256.00 $153.60 $409.60
Apr $409.60 $245.76 $655.36
May $655.36 $393.22 $1,048.58
Jun $1,048.58 $629.15 $1,677.72
Jul $1,677.72 $1,006.63 $2,684.35
Aug $2,684.35 $1,610.61 $4,294.97
Sep $4,294.97 $2,576.98 $6,871.95
Oct $6,871.95 $4,123.17 $10,995.12
Nov $10,995.12 $6,597.07 $17,592.19
Dec $17,592.19 $10,555.31 $28,147.50

Decide where you want to invest, ie if $100 then take $180 invest it for one month which would give you $288
return after one month. The take your $180 out and you have 108.00 to invest. You have already broken even
after one month and it's all upside from there. You can decide where you want to come in $1000 or more and
your funds are only at risk for one month. It's still a gamble because everything could shut down during the month
you decide to get in, but so far the risk is paying off for everyone in P2P.

Or invest $100 for two months which gives you $256 and pull out either $100 or $156. Either way, you now have $100 or $156 that you can let roll.

Just something to think about.

Good* Day Everyone, We are over 11,000 Happy* P2P Members plus the FAQ page* is up

Now there is some great advice for any new investor; "play it safe."

Personally, I dropped over $100 on dinner and drinks last week, so I don't have a problem risking $100 or so. But, for anyone else considering this investment, I do recommend richman's suggestions if you're going to join.

You're always better safe than sorry.



- Ryz

I'm not sure if it has been posted yet (i'm lazy and don't feel like reading anymore) but the new FAQ page is on the site. It is really informative

Sorry Layton and Tree, I should disagree with you here. If I correctly understood, she (MissKitty) can't make deposit to P2P account balance, so the problem isn't in buying investment. Therefore if she wish make a deposit, she should put exactly the same sum which she is going to invest.
ex. If she wish deposit $100, she should put 100

And only after that, when a deposit is successfully made to P2P account, by buying investment options, she should put a sum "without decimal"
ex. If she wish invest $100, she should put 10000

I hope my explanation is understandable to MissKitty...

In case you don't know yet, the P2P FAQ section has been updated and is now available to read.

i beat* you to the punch Austinrampt1

You are joking right? You are actually alleging that P2P is helping the US economy? P2P is the best thing going for the US? I have witnessed many ridiculous assertions and cheerleader claims since entering this highly deceptive and corrupt arena, but you take the prize.

What is wrong with getting a JOB? You know, a job where you will be doing something you can be proud of. It may not bring in as much money as participating in scams, but the peace of mind and a simple good nights sleep is worth much more.

Well here is a newsflash for you “alwaysowen”, you cannot now or will you ever tell me what to do. If I want to post here or other places, I will. You are not the LEGAL owner of this forum, so whether you or the “us” you refer to, need me or don’t need me, I simply do not care as you have no LEGAL right to tell me to leave.

I realize I represent a threat to the “illusion” you and others need so hard to believe in, but I will not go away.

I really expected a better response than the one you provided. It was just too predictable. When you speak of kitty litter, I think you might have me confused with one of your MCF members. You know the pages of posts that were dedicated to the use of kitty litter by said member.

My kitty litter filled forum? Sorry, but the forum you are speaking of is a “true private” forum, and since you have not been allowed access, (although you tried, “D”), you are not granted access now or will you ever be.

Also, please don’t put yourself into the self-appointed position of being the spokesperson for everyone.

Incidentally, does the forum name you have chosen “alwaysowen” imply that you are in a perpetual state of always owing?

WOW, got paid for 11th pending.

Thanks to all p2p team.

The one thing left out of the New Faq is "how to buy a plan" people aren't going to know to leave out the decimal.

The good news - I got paid again to my AP acct from Feb 11 pending.

The bad news - I can no longer withdraw it to my egold acct. I know we can now do bank transfers but for $24 - it's hardly worth me doing an international bank transfer - probably costs $30 or so to send my money to Australia. Anyone else having this problem?? Really disappointed that they stopped dealing with egold.

I really don't see the need to react passionately against those who think little or worse of P2P.

Really, they have just as much right to free expression as those who support P2P.

This is MMG and not some dedicated board that seeks to glorify certain programs with utmost positivity.

As long as things don't go out of hand and no personal insults are hurled from both ends..

but rather as pertains the merits/substance of a specific "investment" -- is discussed rationally.

It' a matter of respect.

The problem I see lies in the fact that MMG is indeed prime fishing ground for promoting investment programs.

Some of the P2P oppositors in this thread imo just can't stomach the fact that a possible or certifiable ponzi(to their mind) continues to promote itself via referral links or posts herein(and just sustains the ponzi).

They speak out and have every right to just as every P2P supporter has a right to keep the thread going for whatever reason.

Point is..expect the opposition.

It comes with the territory.



I personally am happy with P2P without the need for recruiting.

But that's just me.

My prob is the numbers-If all 11000 members were to put in $100 each and compound it at even 50% per month---how much money will be in play in a year---and has any investment in history ever accomplished this? Just curious....

ok---I used an online HYIP calculator---not sure if I did it right but here is what I got.

$1,100,000 at 60% per month for a year compounded equals
$1,247,561,127.75. Must be why they cap the accounts.

This number is 113323.74 per person after a year on a hundred dollar investment.

I feel I know where your train of thought is leading and indeed the logic behind it.

It's quite simple for me really.

There is nothing conclusive in my view that would point to certified ponzi -- as far as my deductive faculties could ascertain. I admit that my faculties are wanting LOL!

The flags are there of course.

We've all been in this arena(at least the vets ) long enough to know it is a gambling den.

I don't recruit myself.
It's been my personal choice since day 1.

I have my principal back and I'm ok.

Will I quit the program because of the high possibility that is just another ponzi.

I don't think I would.


that's just me..again.

logical and I agree--my concern is because of CEP--the precedent may be set that big brother will be emboldened to go after other programs--not just owners/admins but individual promoters like you and others--even if they dont actively promote these things themselves---they will be caught up in the same net.

We are all innocent till proven guilty blah blah---but can we afford the attorney fees. US and Canadian govts have unlimited funds---if they need more they will just print it

I know, there are some people who want to join P-2-P but are very insecure.
I also was one of them, but i read alot of about P-2-P and everybody who wants to join should inform thoroughly and should check the mycashforum.com !

Nick says, what he does is 100% legal.
Ok, for Nick it would be better to have confederates or to know some politicians in Canada, i think.

And for me, i know i have to pay my taxes !!!

fair enough.

I don't know if that would lead to some ultimate fate of the "industry" that we all grew to love--and hate..

and that any good would come out of it --if at all.

But the reality is this arena exists and we are all players here-- and we do take the risks.

And getting into trouble with the alphabet agencies is just part and parcel of of the whole gambling den package.

They've started local banking and according to the fees table it costs A$2 for a cheque and A$5 for a bank transfer. You can definitely deposit locally but I don't know if they've activated the local withdrawal facilities yet. Apparently, they'll do so by mid-March. I'm speaking based on Malaysian experience which I assume may also apply to you since both our countries became local banking enabled at the same time.

***************************************************************************
To all P2P members and mods, I am sorry that I posted my dirty laundry in the open!! This is the last post that I make to GoldKitty in public! My ignore button is working just fine!

This will probably help you a little with the number problem. There are NOT 11,000 "active" members. Nick will know when to cap membership!
This was taken from the NEW revised FAQ page from the site:

Regardless what the number of Members actually showing everytime you access our website ..... you MUST realize that we are still relatively "small", as the total number of "Active Members" compared to the "TOTAL Members" is actually LESS than 1 out of 3 !?! The reason you might notice the "Members' Stats" on our website fluctuating continuously & on a daily basis is due to how our script does an automatic search each & every day for "INACTIVE" Accounts !?!

When accessing the site to make investments...it is clearly explained. I would hope that anyone making deposits of this magnitude, considering $100 is the minimum (which is higher than many other programs) are intelligent to read the instructions.

I would just ask for a check, Ann. That's what I do. Its only $2 and the bank deposits it

right away, with no problems.

BTW payouts for the 12th have started! WTG Nick!!!!

To have a check sent here to Australia - costs $10 AUD to convert to US!! So that is definitely out of the question.

Guess I'll just wait till I have enough to do a bank transfer and not withdraw anymore till May, when I intend to bank some.



Thank you for this helpful information. They had to devise a way for internationals to withdraw their money - they don't even have a debit card - glad they brought in bank transfers. But inspite of people not liking egold - I use it a lot and am saddened that I can't withdraw to egold anymore.

This is a great statement.

Voicing your opinion is perfectly acceptable, so long as it does not turn into an insult-fest.

Is this program a ponzi? Well, there's only so much "evidence" that can be used to support either opinion: Yes or No. This program is paying, yet at the same time, every ponzi- even the major organizations- pay for extended periods of time.

And, unfortunately, nothing can be absolutely proven in this case.

This is a wise decision. GoldKittty will eat your snack lunch friend. He/She has forgot more than you will probably ever know. P2P is a hyip and a scam sitting on the edge of ruins everyday. This is a game and a huge gamble if you choose to put money into it. You had better hope the Canadian authorities dont get wind of this scam.

Must be one of our good friends from talk gold forum. Welcome to mmg

I have a quick question that maybe somebody can help me with.

Question:

Is the interest (1.5% - 2.67%) on each Plan earned every single calendar day?

Or

Is the interest on each Plan earned only (Mon-Fri) not counting the weekends?

I appreciate any help that I may receive.


- Sincere

I don't care one way or the other whether anyone participates in P2P, but I will agree that very few are able to match-up with GoldKitty in a debate. As an attorney, that's a big part of her profession and she's certainly able to "eat most people's snack lunch."

I've seen her make many look like fools in the various online forums.