[quote I've been logged in to MCF for hours now, nin. Its fine for me. [/quote]

I still can't login. Any other Aussies having trouble loggin in to MCF?

I'm like you webster, no luck all day long here in Perth.

Do you think we are the only Aussies not able to login to MCF???? Treebarrt llives in Canada and she says that she has been on the MCF forum all day. This is a mystery to me.

banks charge you at both ends of a wire that's not unusual however, Wamu does not charge me to send a wire, but $10 to receive one.

Its morning for me now, webster, and I just logged in again to MCF.

Hope its working for you today.

From what I have read STPay will work the energy bank cards.

I have my $30 in my P2P Account already! I just waiting!

Can anyone tell me how they get their funds out of processors and into their bank when larger amounts are involved. I understand that ACH bank transfers have LIMITS daily/weekly to deposit. Are there limits like that with bank wires? Any one got any advice?

I always request a check. Banks are better with checks. They do put a hold on it

sometimes, (depending on the amount), until it clears, but that's ok with me.

I don´t see any limit for ACH transactions through STP on their site hmmm, may be I am wrong?

It is really cheap with them. Just $2 whatever the amount transferred is and it takes around 5 days to reach your USA bank account.

About the debit card, the idea is to get rid of 3rd parties ( payment processors ) involved with the program.
I am not sure I fully agree with this either. Honestly, I can´t forget some bad experience in the past that easily + I find STP very reliable indeed.
I don´t know what to think or what is best. Really.

What I heard is that we will be able to fund the debit card with STP funds but the other way around has not been confirmed.
It will depend on Stella on whether they will accept the card as another method to fund our STP accounts or not.

It is morning here now and I can login as well. I have 3 friends keeping an eye on the MCF and none of them could login either. Ah well, today is another day! Thanks treebartt. Have a good one.

Thanks* Marg75205 Banks charge on both ends here STP is cheaper than banks wires is what i,m saying

McPeeWee! (my twin)

YES, I know about STP not having restrictions but WHERE you ACH your funds OUT of STP to your bank....Some banks will only do ACH transactional limits BOTH in/out to $1000 daily or $5000 per week, some even smaller amounts than that. ?????

I think best thing to do first is contact your bank and try to find out their limit. Just a phone call would be enough I guess.

I wish I had that problem!


Have a wonderful New Year Celebration edhinfla, nineteen, Treebartt, layton,
McPeeWee, mcozy, karmacrazy, Dorky, alwaysowen... and everyone here in MMG!!

Thanks for your wishes IVM... I actually called over to say that my deposit had matured, and I have requested a part withdrawal and reinvested the rest for another 30 days.

I decided not to leave money in my balance for the debit card, but I probably will have some in STP if the situation arises in the meantime that the debit card is available.

I don't have the problem of worrying about limits as per above posts, I am wondering what the minimum will be and of course the fees involved. I guess it will all come out in the wash..

Payment was requested to STP, when I receive it I will be sure to post it here.. roughly, how many weeks do you think at the moment... it was two weeks before Christmas, so can I assum it won't be anymore after, maybe less?

Dorky

After seeing AO's post, I'd like to wish you a too!

Hmm... one more day and you could have been the New Year's baby of 19....... whatever!!

Have a great day, McPeewee!

did you make any deposit to your p2p account from Stp prior to asking for the cashout, if yes, you may want to open up a Support ticket in the support thread of my cash forum.
if no, you have to wait for Nick to verify your Stp user name with Stella, this can take a month mine was requested on Nov. 24

I actually upgrade originally with STP and this will be my third withdrawal from P2P.. so hopefully it won't be too long.

But I just dropped bye to wish everyone



I don't know if I will actually be still awake, but only one and a half hours to go!!

I have to pinch myself to think that I made it to 2008 !!

Dorky

hullo!!
i'm a newbie in investing and i don't really know much bout e-gold and STP..
I want to ask a question bout this investment plan..
how's the payout will be made since i'm from Malaysia..does this investment make payout to Malaysian based acct?

Also can anyone here explain to me a bit bout e-gold and STP..I've checked out the website but got confused with the info they provide..and do this thing supported by banks in Asia?

Thanx in advance for answering my question and thousand apologies if I made mistakes by posting in the wrong place

Thanx

Hi JadeDragon,

First of all, let me welcome you to MMG forum and second of all, no need for any apologies!! You are in the right place at the right time!!

I am from the states and I can't give you much information on banks in Asia. I am sure there are people from Malaysia that are in P-2-P that can help. I do know this thou, P-2-P does not use E-Gold so you will have to open a STP (SolidTrustPay)account or an AP (AlertPay) account and DO NOT sign up for P-2-P until you have either payment processor funded. Once you have your payment processor funded you then can join our very happy family!! ($100 minimum and $25,000 maximum)

The other main requirement before joining our happy family is to go to MyCashForum and register. MCF is THE private forum for P-2-P (www.mycashforum.com) By reading the P-2-P Private Forum and it's subforums (FAQ's,Strategies,Support Questions and etc.), it will help clear up any confusion and plus the people are very friendly and helpful!

I hope this helps a little or alot! If you have more questions, please ask!!

In case you didn't stay awake, here's a from me too!

And keep pinching yourself until 2009!!!
I want to be able to wish you another Happy New then.

There's been a few important updates posted in MCF, that I thought should be posted here too:

Hello Everyone !

I have a matter of concern to address:

In an attempt to help out, one of the employees here at P2P made some errors. Certain members when requesting payouts would select AP or STP and include their phone number or P2P username instead of AP email address or STP username. In an effort to rectify the situation, this employee went ahead and emailed the account holders and told them the funds were put back in their account balance and at the same time corrected the info. in the payout request. As a result there were a few dozen members who not only got paid but also received the same amount of funds back into their account balances.
Shockingly, to Nick and myself, these members never came forward and infact they requested yet another payout or reinvested the funds that were put into their account balances.
I have to tell you that Nick is VERY disappointed in this behavior and will be making the corrections to their accounts with no questions asked !!

The funds were mistakenly placed in members account balances after Dec.19th and Dec.20th payouts ............. .... which means these members have requested new payouts or reinvested funds , which is not theirs, between Dec.20th and today.
This means Nick must go through all the pending requests that were to be paid out today and weed out the ones who have made yet another payout request with funds that are not theirs !!!
I have one account sitting infront of me that received a 4k payout , recieved the 4k to their processor , and then when another 4k appeared in their account balance, due to employee error, they made out a request for this amount as well. I find this very disheartening considering everything Nick is doing for us !!

As a result, payouts will not be going out tonight because Nick needs to go through all the requests ........it will be Wednesday or Thursday before they can be done.
Nick apologizes to the majority of his membership for this delay, but it is imperative that the offending members be taken care of. Infact, those who mistakenly entered their phone number instead of username, will be receiving a phone call from Nick and will have to explain themselves ! thumbsup.gif

If I could help Nick correct these accounts I would, because i hate the thought of him having to spend his New Years Eve this way !!!
Nick wanted me to tell you that he knows this only affects a fraction of the membership and apologizes to the rest for having to delay the payouts........but I think you can all understand why.

In closing, it will all be taken care of, including the offending members, and we will continue on as strong as before.
Happy New Years Everyone!!!!!!!!!

Gary

Next one:

Hello EVERYONE !!!

YES ..... IT'S NICK HERE !!! I just COULD NOT continue with my evening WITHOUT doing something that I KNOW/FEEL that I (WE) NEEDED to take care of here FIRST ..... and that was to simply WISH YOU ALL ..... (my/our OTHER FAMILY !!!) a belated "MERRY CHRISTMAS" (OR whatever it may be referred to depending on your religious beliefs or your upbringing ?!?) ..... and MOST IMPORTANTLY to WISH YOU ALL the VERY BEST in the "NEW YEAR - 2008" !!!!!!!!!!!!!"

For quite a few of you who have a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with me (us) as well as our Business Relationship ..... YOU ALREADY are aware of JUST SOME of the things that we continue to work on around here behind the scenes ..... AND JUST AS I HAVE EXPLAINED/EXPRESSED TO YOU DURING OUR COMMUNICATIONS/PHONE CALLS/ONE ON ONE MEETINGS ..... I REALLY DO NOT SEE ANY END IN SIGHT FOR ANYTHING/EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE INVOLVED WITH/IN AND NO END IN SIGHT FOR ANYTHING/EVERYTHING THAT WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON BEHIND THE SCENES HERE !!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE LITERALLY WORKING ON "SOME" THINGS/VENTURES/PROJECTS HERE AT "P-2-P" THAT ARE REALISTICALLY "YEARS DOWN THE ROAD" !!!!! AS I JUST STATED ..... I SEE "NO END IN SIGHT" !!!!

AND AN AWFUL LOT OF THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS DUE TO THE FABULOUS "FAMILY" THAT WE HAVE ALL WORKED SO HARD ON CREATING/ESTABLISHING HERE ..... THAT REGARDLESS WHAT "OBSTACLES" OR "ROAD BLOCKS" OR "ATTEMPTS" BY CHEATERS/SCAMMERS/PROFESSIONAL HACKERS THAT WE HAVE AND THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO COME UP AGAINST ..... I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT BY NOW YOU SHOULD ALL REALIZE THAT THIS "FAMILY" WE HAVE CREATED HERE OVER THE PAST 11 MONTHS (YES ..... TONIGHT IS NOT ONLY NEW YEARS EVE BUT IS ALSO THE LAST DAY OF THE END OF OUR 11TH MONTH SINCE WE LAUNCHED !!!) ..... WE ARE MOST DEFINITELY HERE FOR THE "LONG HAUL" AND WE ARE GOING NOWHERE OTHER THAN "ONWARDS & UPWARDS" (as Gary would SAY !!) !!!

So in closing ..... to ALL MY STAFF & ALSO TO EVERYONE HERE IN OUR "FAMILY ... P-2-P NETWORK" ..... I have to say "THANK YOU" to ALL OF YOU and ALL THE BEST IN THE "NEW YEAR - 2008" ..... AND MANY, MANY MORE !!!!

Just let's EVERYONE sit back for JUST a very few/short moments and think of ALL we have come up against ...... ALL that we have ACCOMPLISHED in just a very short 11 months ...... AND JUST THINK WHERE WE WILL ALL BE AND EVERYTHING THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO ACCOMPLISH IN MANY YEARS TO COME !?!?!

IT CERTAINLY "PUTS A SMILE ON MY FACE" AND EVEN GIVES ME THAT "WARM/FUZZY FEELING" WAY DEEP DOWN INSIDE !!!!

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ONCE AGAIN ...... "HAPPY NEW YEAR - 2008" TO EVERYONE ..... AND PLEASE, PLEASE BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL IF ANY OF YOU ARE GOING OUT SOMEWHERE TONIGHT ..... ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE REQUIRED TO DRIVE SOMEWHERE !!!!!

"THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU ..... AND TO ALL OF MY STAFF" !!!!!!
"P-2-P NETWORK" ..... INVEST WITH THE BEST !!!
MOST SINCERELY,

Nick & Dianne & Family
P.S. PLEASE DO NOT WORRY TOO MUCH with regards to what has happened & simply be a little patient ..... as my intentions/plans are to simply quickly go over the created/PREPARED "files" that are ALL READY to go out BOTH via "SolidTrust Pay" and "AlertPay" ..... and I WILL be making some more Payouts tomorrow (January 1, 2008), to those Members that have NOTHING to do with what has occurred here, as I know that it is NOT fair to make you have to wait ..... so for those Members who this situation has NOTHING to do with, you WILL be getting PAID up to and INCLUDING December 26th Withdrawal Requests tomorrow, even though I wanted to take a day off, BUT I WON'T ..... and then I (we) will DEAL with those "OTHER" Members/Accounts on Wednesday, January 2nd ..... and then it's simply "BACK TO BUSINESS" !!! *** ONWARDS & UPWARDS !!! ***

1. STP does not accept Malaysians. They emailed telling me so, despite my fullfilling verification requirements.

2. Try opening an AlertPay account. I'm in the midst of doing so and getting myself verified. Getting money out of AlertPay would have to be by e-gold untill they start their Asian banking operations( Malaysia will be one of the countries supported ).

3. P-2-P will soon( but God knows when! ) have its own debit card( backed by Mastercard ) and then withdrawals from the programme will be done that way. Fast and efficient.

4. P-2-P offers bankwire withdrawals but it never gets done. I tried it and wouldn't put up with waiting more than 2 weeks for it so I had the withdrawal reversed and reinvested it.

5. Contact me at bungamas8@yahoo.com

Think it's important that members read the updates and MCF and thanks for posting that here.

2008 is going to be GREAT, thanks to P-2-P

Great update by Nick..


thanks for posting

If P2p is a real investment program and not just another ponzi couldnt Nick show some proof of what he is investing in to generate returns he is claiming.

Oh--I know why--if he showed us his secret---everyone else would do it----never mind....

I don't know if you are part of the program, but I will say for sure you will never be told any of what Nick does, unless he desires to do so. With that being said, the last 11 months has in some cases been a roller coaster ride, but despite areas of concern, the program has paid with out fail, sure there are a few problems still, but they are being taken care of. After the amount of time that I have been a member, I do not look at it as a game any longer, to me I treat it as a business. If you still consider this a Ponzi, then there is nothing any one can do to convince you other wise, so I wont even go there. Myself, if I see a problem, I will bring it to the open as I have done before, but they have been addressed and taken care of.I am happy to say that the interest on my roll overs are exceeding the amount of the roll over by 1 1/2 the amount that was reinvested and now at the point of reaching the Max and will have to with draw. Sure you can say that getting it is the think, and I agree, but at present, I have no doubt that I will recieve it. It is also nice to get well over 1k a week interest in the 30 day plan.

Layton

If you are an investor in Nick's program, then I would indeed be concerned whether your money is involved in yet another ponzi program even if it happens to be paying(ponzis pay for a time don't they?)--and it would be your prerogative to inquire with the admin the source of the fund generation(on the flipside, it is also the admin's prerogative whether to disclose any such information).




If you don't have money working in P2P, then you really don't have anything to be concerned about now do you?

Happy New Year* Treebartt i should have bet* my house on USC but i did rollover my 1st investment* Thank You Saint Nick

Why don't you call Nick and ask him... He loves to talk to his MEMBERS!!

oops... are you a member?? Oh well, it doesn't matter if you are or not... I think Nick would give you a few minutes...

Nicholas (Nick) Smirnow - CEO
P-2-P Network - Program Founder
support@pathway-2-prosperity.net
1-866-P2P-2968 (Toll Free) or simply 1-866-727-2968
801-795-7976 (Business Voicemail)

WOW!! You could've bet the house,the car and the kids... hehehehe!!

USC 49
Illinois 17
with 4 minutes left in the game

LOL...thank you 19, and the same to you!!

Congrats on USC and your first rollover!!!

Great to see that money growing, isn't it???

Congrats* USC

Hi Layton!

Can I take that to mean you don't want the card?


Tappin

As long as I continue to get paid, I don't care if it has to be via debit card.

Thanks Tree* Snow is coming 2 Reno

LOL, I guess in a way you could say that as for me being in the states, I dont need another one, so I just hope it stays on the back burner for as long as it can. The longer the better. It seems as though programs that do initiate their own payment systems have a problem sustaining them selves, yea I know P-2-P is not like other programs, but I still have the thought.

Layton

I know what you mean layton. I have the same feeling

But sometimes I can´t help thinking that others without a debit card or own payment system in place also failed to continue or were shut down.
There´s nothing written in stone in this industry. Personally I will stick to the program for as long as it delivers.

I prefer a new debit card instead of a program that is revamped every once in a while promising 100% refunds that never happen but re-starting anyway and claiming they are the best... OMG what a shame! ...LOL
Having a new debit card ends up being not important compared to other lies out there.

I will just enjoy while it lasts, then when and if the cards come out, then I will read the agreement and costs, and then decide if I pull or stay. Yes, I would dearly love for this to last forever, but I will just enjoy it as long as it does with no regrets.

One thing for sure, even if the cards come out, it will still be about two months for them to be in use.

Layton

I've heard some good things about this one.

Greg

Not surprising. Its the best thing going these days!

And I'm with you Layton. I'm in no rush for the debit card either.

GREAT program!! It's no.1 in my portfolio!

Big* Storm Coming Here one thing about debit cards is keeping up with how much* you are spending

there are many other debitcards on the market,
whenever a site where i had been in announced a debitcard of it's own shortly after it closed down

Hullo it's me again..

Looks like my i've got bad luck with STP...receive email from STP admin said that they're removing Malaysia from verified country due to too many fraud cases... kiss STP for me...
Can Visa Electron be used for P2P?

No, as far as I know, its only STP and Alert Pay. International Money Orders may still be

allowed, but its taking a long time to get the deposit in your account, because Nick has to go

to the bank and do it, so STP and AP, are the way to go, until the debit card is ready.

Paid for 22 dec. pending. Just great!

From STPay member email: smirnow@sympatico.ca
From STPay username: rddirect
Transaction Number: 6008
Amount: $50

Paid today to STP for 21-Dec withdrawal request, thanks.