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gonsaigon
Our first venture starts tomorrow, only 7 days, but, maybe it will renew for another 7, at this point it will cover all our payouts for the current accounts, and add a bit to reserve.

Pete
GCC3k
Is this one any good ? How exactly does it work ?
gonsaigon
QUOTE(GCC3k @ Jan 22 2007, 08:16 PM) [snapback]3569583[/snapback]

Is this one any good ? How exactly does it work ?


This is virtually a private fund, you email me, your membership is 30 days, at the end of 30 days we pay you 120% ROI, if you choose to re-join you will recieve an additional 5% or 125% ROI, for your second cycle, and every cycle after that.

Pete
gonsaigon
Welcome to BTD Asor, your email has been sent. Thank you.

Pete
X007
Hello Pete

I am new to this board and would like first to thank you for the opportunity
and have few questions i would like to ask and hope you don't mind.

I was wondering since you mentioned that one of the income streams
has to do with futures ,who is doing the trades,is it you or professionals
on your behalf,if it is you then what are your qualifications in that arena
and your personal experience or your traders for that sake?

is there a a possibility it may end in red ,meaning that the
posted goal could not be met under some circumstances and delivered
unless relying on new spends into the system,reason i ask is in light of the
fact that you post fixed set of return rate so is this rate guaranteed or might
not be achievable?

I would like to know please when you mention online programs,if some portion going
to be dedicated towards other ponzi schemes or sort of investment programs
on this board,i see through reading the thread you recommend NFL's COF program which
basically is smilar to yours right now,are you going to use that as a vehicle to
generate some of the revenues you need in order to sustain your promised roi
and what kind of creterias do you have in regards to using other online programs when
deciding if to go with or not?

Last question on my mind right now would be in regards to respends/investments if the
max roi set at 125% or on 3rd month with reinvesting the whole amount it will increase to 130%
and so on each passing month?

I would like you to clarify please these points to me so i could assess a little better the amount
i wish to devote for that offering.

I tried to send you pm through the board but apparently could not do so.

Thank you for taking the time and clarifying these points to me,i am not questioning
your abilities ,just want to get better picture of what i may get into. blush.gif

Kind regards.

XOO7
gonsaigon
QUOTE(X007 @ Jan 23 2007, 03:52 AM) [snapback]3572129[/snapback]

Hello Pete

I am new to this board and would like first to thank you for the opportunity
and have few questions i would like to ask and hope you don't mind.

I love questions because it gives me the popportunity tongive some answers.[b]

I was wondering since you mentioned that one of the income streams
has to do with futures ,who is doing the trades,is it you or professionals
on your behalf,if it is you then what are your qualifications in that arena
and your personal experience or your traders for that sake?

[b]I use a registered trader, my knowledge is not great enough to trust my judgement


is there a a possibility it may end in red ,meaning that the
posted goal could not be met under some circumstances and delivered
unless relying on new spends into the system,reason i ask is in light of the
fact that you post fixed set of return rate so is this rate guaranteed or might
not be achievable?

I will not guarantee that the posted rate of returns will be forever, however, if they need to be revised down it will never be retrospective, affecting new spends only. I suppose in all honesty all programs rely to some degree on new spends to maintain cash flow, I do have a buffer of private funds that should not make this neccessary.

I would like to know please when you mention online programs,if some portion going
to be dedicated towards other ponzi schemes or sort of investment programs
on this board,i see through reading the thread you recommend NFL's COF program which
basically is smilar to yours right now,are you going to use that as a vehicle to
generate some of the revenues you need in order to sustain your promised roi
and what kind of creterias do you have in regards to using other online programs when
deciding if to go with or not?

[/b]The amount of online programs that we invest in will only represent a very small part of our funds, I endorse NFL's program, because it has a high level of plausability, we do have a small amount of funds in there now. As to other programs, I trust my judgement, and look towards some recognition of the admin or program, and a level of sustainability (sensible rates). I might add that we are in only COF at this stage.

Last question on my mind right now would be in regards to respends/investments if the
max roi set at 125% or on 3rd month with reinvesting the whole amount it will increase to 130%
and so on each passing month?

[b]I have been waiting for this question, and I welcome it, the extra 5% is not exponential, only 5% gets added to the current rate, in every


I would like you to clarify please these points to me so i could assess a little better the amount
i wish to devote for that offering.

[/b]Thank you for your enquiries, and I am glad that we could post them on the board, rather than P.M.[b]

I tried to send you pm through the board but apparently could not do so.

Thank you for taking the time and clarifying these points to me,i am not questioning
your abilities ,just want to get better picture of what i may get into. blush.gif

Kind regards.

XOO7



Cheers Pete
Got some crazy mixed up bolding here.
X007
QUOTE(gonsaigon @ Jan 22 2007, 11:52 PM) [snapback]3574488[/snapback]

Cheers Pete
Got some crazy mixed up bolding here.



Thank you Pete

I have sent you an email requesting further information to proceed.

I believe one of my questions left unanswered though blush.gif

Regarding the online programs you mentioned and creterias you
use to pick or chose which if any to be used for that matter.

Could you elaborate little more over your trader performance
in general lines based on his part performance so far?

You don't have to,but again it would help me making up my mind
over the amount i wish to devote for this opportunity and factor
the risk elements if there are any little better,hope you understand smile.gif
gonsaigon
QUOTE(X007 @ Jan 23 2007, 04:54 PM) [snapback]3574961[/snapback]

Thank you Pete

I have sent you an email requesting further information to proceed.

I believe one of my questions left unanswered though blush.gif

Regarding the online programs you mentioned and creterias you
use to pick or chose which if any to be used for that matter.

O.K. I have a preference for programs that I feel have real outside income sources, private or semi private. If I know the admin, I like them better, believe me I treat them with care, and don't overplay my hand anywhere.

Could you elaborate little more over your trader performance
in general lines based on his part performance so far?

My trader has been licensed on the Sydney Futures Exchange for sixteen years, he offers option management packages that have historically returned 50-100% per annum. In my case I prefer to forego the packages in favour of purely commodities. These have a much higher return/risk, I ask for advice, and pay for it. For my own part I have been showing varied returns, averaging out ahead of the ROI payment.
The larger part of our income will come from another sector, short term loans.


I can only give so much info on an open forum, which I am sure you will understand




You don't have to,but again it would help me making up my mind
over the amount i wish to devote for this opportunity and factor
the risk elements if there are any little better,hope you understand smile.gif


I would be happy for you to start out small, and test the waters, in order to prosper, this program needs to
be very much controlled in it's growth.

Pete
mc13fr
QUOTE(gonsaigon @ Jan 23 2007, 08:20 AM) [snapback]3575046[/snapback]

I would be happy for you to start out small, and test the waters, in order to prosper, this program needs to
be very much controlled in it's growth.

Pete


Very important point here : the growth of a program ... so little admins are thinking about it smile.gif

Pierre
gonsaigon
Hi loribee, I pm'ed you back.

Pete
X007
Hi Pete

I have emailed you 2 days ago to your domain email addy
and still have not received response,could you pm me further
info to proceed

Thank you smile.gif
gonsaigon
QUOTE(X007 @ Jan 24 2007, 11:52 PM) [snapback]3582374[/snapback]

Hi Pete

I have emailed you 2 days ago to your domain email addy
and still have not received response,could you pm me further
info to proceed

Thank you smile.gif



I have Pm'd you, seems that I have a bad link on my site, I have just run tests, and they came straight back to me, so it appears to be intermittent. I have been recieving mail normally on that address for the last 2 days??

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Pete
gonsaigon
Welcome aboard loribee, enjoy the easy ride.

Pete
loribee
QUOTE(gonsaigon @ Jan 25 2007, 04:43 PM) [snapback]3591573[/snapback]

Welcome aboard loribee, enjoy the easy ride.

Pete

Thanks Pete - I am pleased as a fellow aussie to support "Break the Drought". I will be upgrading further as funds become available. I know this one will go for a long time and hopefully we will all prosper. I will watch the thread with great interest as it continues to grow.
gonsaigon
QUOTE(loribee @ Jan 27 2007, 08:00 AM) [snapback]3596936[/snapback]

Thanks Pete - I am pleased as a fellow aussie to support "Break the Drought". I will be upgrading further as funds become available. I know this one will go for a long time and hopefully we will all prosper. I will watch the thread with great interest as it continues to grow.


Thanks loribee, the quality of members that we are getting here will guarantee a long life, I can tell you that our first few days have been somewhat restricted in the opportunity department, but we are ahead of the game.

Early next week I will be emailing members, with what will be a weekly or twice weekly update.

Pete
Dorky
I have emailed you Pete.

Waiting for the info..

Dorky
gonsaigon
Recieved and receipted Dorky, thanks for your trust.

Pete
gonsaigon
Members can all expect a profit report by email tomorrow, please note, not a list of stats, but, a profit report.

Week one we are in profit.

Pete
cake again
QUOTE(gonsaigon @ Jan 29 2007, 01:51 PM) [snapback]3610639[/snapback]

Members can all expect a profit report by email tomorrow, please note, not a list of stats, but, a profit report.

Week one we are in profit.

Pete


Well done, Pete, good to hear. smile.gif
Dorky
clapping7.gif clapping7.gif Glad to hear... can't wait... I am an impatient person post-36326-1110185726.gif Just joking.. wink.gif

Dorky
gonsaigon
By this time all members should have recieved the newsletter by email.

Pete
cake again
QUOTE(gonsaigon @ Jan 30 2007, 02:43 PM) [snapback]3617046[/snapback]

By this time all members should have recieved the newsletter by email.

Pete


I didn't get an email, Pete. Can you send me one?

Cheers
Cake peace.gif
Dorky
QUOTE(cake again @ Jan 31 2007, 06:19 AM) [snapback]3619131[/snapback]

I didn't get an email, Pete. Can you send me one?

Cheers
Cake peace.gif

LOL Probably made a typing error in you looooooooooooooong email address. tongue4.gif

Dorky
loribee
QUOTE(cake again @ Jan 30 2007, 12:19 PM) [snapback]3619131[/snapback]

I didn't get an email, Pete. Can you send me one?

Cheers
Cake peace.gif

I haven't received an email either Pete. Could you reforward to me please. Thank you. loribee
gonsaigon
Emails have been re-forwarded, individually, possibly the original went into your junk mail folder, as it was a group email post-36326-1110185726.gif post-36326-1110185726.gif post-36326-1110185726.gif

Pete
gonsaigon
Just a little bonus for members this coming Saturday, seeing things are moving along now a little.

I think we should indulge in a system 10 in the gold lotto, I'll publish the numbers for a quick pick in MMG.

Who knows maybe this time next week we will all meet up at a resort, courtesy of Gold Lotto.

Pete
UltGetPaid
QUOTE(gonsaigon @ Jan 30 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]3620426[/snapback]

Emails have been re-forwarded, individually, possibly the original went into your junk mail folder, as it was a group email post-36326-1110185726.gif post-36326-1110185726.gif post-36326-1110185726.gif

Pete



Agh.... furious.gif
gonsaigon
QUOTE(UltGetPaid @ Feb 1 2007, 01:22 AM) [snapback]3623263[/snapback]

Agh.... furious.gif


Care to share the Agh with me, are you a member?

Pete
loribee
QUOTE(gonsaigon @ Jan 30 2007, 06:50 PM) [snapback]3620426[/snapback]

Emails have been re-forwarded, individually, possibly the original went into your junk mail folder, as it was a group email post-36326-1110185726.gif post-36326-1110185726.gif post-36326-1110185726.gif

Pete

Thanks Pete - I have received the email now . Thanks - it looks like great times ahead. I will invest again as soon as funds become available. As you can see I am an aussie too - it is great to see our own programmes online !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep up the good work Pete!!
cake again
QUOTE(Dorky @ Jan 30 2007, 11:33 PM) [snapback]3619683[/snapback]

LOL Probably made a typing error in you looooooooooooooong email address. tongue4.gif

Dorky


You got it right first time, Dorky. clapping7.gif

I'm up to speed with things now though smile.gif peace.gif
Linda7
4.gif hmmmm....so THIS is where you all are hiding out?
IPB Image
I've got to get off the computer like 10 minutes ago, so I don't have time to read this whole thread. So, Dorky! Should I get offended? harhar.gif My only problem seems to be a major one right now...I've got very limited egold ...not enough to get into this yet...but I'll keep my eye on it!
cake again
QUOTE(Linda7 @ Feb 2 2007, 12:03 AM) [snapback]3630391[/snapback]

4.gif hmmmm....so THIS is where you all are hiding out?
IPB Image
I've got to get off the computer like 10 minutes ago, so I don't have time to read this whole thread. So, Dorky! Should I get offended? harhar.gif My only problem seems to be a major one right now...I've got very limited egold ...not enough to get into this yet...but I'll keep my eye on it!


I don't know if we are hiding tongue4.gif . We just moved, that's all. smile.gif

It was time to get out of Scamland and find something real.

Happy to be here, and even happier when you are able to join us. wave.gif peace.gif
Prometheus_au
This looks promising.

Will email when funds are available.
Thanks Dorky... your Blog led me here! clapping7.gif


aussiefox
Looking forward to when I can join you all here, lol, but couldn't help myself, just had to post even if I'm not a member yet tongue4.gif

Prometheus just love your avatar, my family and I had a great view of the comet a couple of nights ago.
gonsaigon
Hi all,

The whole essence of a private program like BTD, is not to create a sense of urgency, but to ceate a stable environment.

If it takes a year for this program to reach any real size, it just won't matter. As much as more funds in the kitty will open up more opportunities, we can easily prosper and achieve in our own quiet little way.

In the ranks of our members we have some very serious people, people that have seen the whole hyip thing for what it really has become, and I include surfs in that statement.
BTD is all about being a safe haven, with a sustainable profit, (if ever that profit needs to be lowered, and please don't read anything into this), the lowering of return will never be retro-spective to existing accounts, but will start from the next spend, this will give you the chance to decide at this time whether BTD is still for you.

There may also be occasions where we well and truly exceed our needs, rather than raising the rate as a knee jerk reaction, these extra funds will be used to grow the reserve, against the day when we may need it.
However expect bonuses from time to time as well.

Right now with our small membership, this is a little like running a target saver account, easily managed on a spread sheet, we know all of our members, and no matter how big we become in the future, that personal approach will always be an integral part of BTD.

Thanks one and all.

Pete
ninong
Hi Pete, wave.gif

At last I found you and in here at your own thread.

I'm amazed by your program and will surely, sooner or later, join all of you here, when I have enough egold to invest here.

I've already bookmarked your website and will visit every now and then.

More Power to you 'PETE' and to all members of BTD.


wave.gif clapping7.gif smile.gif dance9bh.gif dancing4dh.gif post-69220-1110229459.gif yahoo.gif thumbup(1).gif thumbup(1).gif
gonsaigon
QUOTE(ninong @ Feb 3 2007, 09:20 AM) [snapback]3635758[/snapback]

Hi Pete, wave.gif

At last I found you and in here at your own thread.

I'm amazed by your program and will surely, sooner or later, join all of you here, when I have enough egold to invest here.

I've already bookmarked your website and will visit every now and then.

More Power to you 'PETE' and to all members of BTD.
wave.gif clapping7.gif smile.gif dance9bh.gif dancing4dh.gif post-69220-1110229459.gif yahoo.gif thumbup(1).gif thumbup(1).gif


Thanks Ninong my old friend, we'll wait around for you.

Pete
gonsaigon
I owe everybody a big apology with the gold lotto. I hate to say that at the last moment it slipped my mind, I will get the system 10 for the big wedensday draw, and post the numbers.

Pete doh.gif
Dorky
QUOTE(gonsaigon @ Feb 4 2007, 02:00 PM) [snapback]3641371[/snapback]

I owe everybody a big apology with the gold lotto. I hate to say that at the last moment it slipped my mind, I will get the system 10 for the big wedensday draw, and post the numbers.

Pete doh.gif

Nevermind Pete, we will forgive you. LOL won't we members... mmm quiet in here..

Seems as though Linda7 and Prometheus_au have found our niche.. Thank goodness I behave myself here. blush.gif You may read the whole thread, and I think, not sure, well fairly sure, I have not put a foot out of place.

Pete here keeps a close reign on me. Isn't that right. Pete...Pete... I need some support here.

Dorky
gonsaigon
QUOTE(Dorky @ Feb 4 2007, 11:02 PM) [snapback]3643042[/snapback]

Nevermind Pete, we will forgive you. LOL won't we members... mmm quiet in here..

Seems as though Linda7 and Prometheus_au have found our niche.. Thank goodness I behave myself here. blush.gif You may read the whole thread, and I think, not sure, well fairly sure, I have not put a foot out of place.

Pete here keeps a close reign on me. Isn't that right. Pete...Pete... I need some support here.

Dorky


Yeah, you have been a good boy Dorky, I haven't had to get the strap out once.

Pete
growmillions
Hi Pete,
I found your link after reading your negative comment in PlexPay. However, I'm not holding that against you, and read all of this thread. Your program looks very good, and I plan on joining once I build up my e-gold more. peace.gif
gonsaigon
QUOTE(growmillions @ Feb 5 2007, 05:26 PM) [snapback]3646816[/snapback]

Hi Pete,
I found your link after reading your negative comment in PlexPay. However, I'm not holding that against you, and read all of this thread. Your program looks very good, and I plan on joining once I build up my e-gold more. peace.gif


Hi Growmillions, you nwill be more than welcome, I guess with plexpay, I have just had to put it behind me, but, you never know one day we might see some of uor money.

Pete
gonsaigon
By now all members will have recieved an update to the present time.

I may be the admin of this program, however, in reality I am just another member. As are my Mum, my Sister in Law, my Son , and my Daughter.

Because I have had numerous emails from people that find the membership spend above their capability, I am going to put it to the existing members, can we drop the initial buy in down to $50.00, there are a number of people from developing countries that just find $100 USD too much.

Initially I set this limit because I wanted to be a site for serious people, as it seems $50 is serious money to many others, particularly from developing countries, this is a member owned program in the truest sense of the word, and your input would be appreciated.

Members are already aware that we are in profit, in fact in 2 weeks we have managed to cover all payouts for the month.

I leave it to you to comment, as you own the program as much as I do.

Pete
nofreelunch
nice to hear BTD is growing nicely...

looking forward 2 the 1st payout here smile.gif
gonsaigon
QUOTE(nofreelunch @ Feb 7 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]3656258[/snapback]

nice to hear BTD is growing nicely...

looking forward 2 the 1st payout here smile.gif


Thanks for your comment Calvin, pay day is getting closer.

Pete yahoo.gif
gonsaigon
Back on-line again, after moving house, what a trauma.

Pete
gonsaigon
Welcome aboard jamm, our newest member.

Pete
loribee
QUOTE(gonsaigon @ Feb 6 2007, 07:46 AM) [snapback]3654264[/snapback]

By now all members will have recieved an update to the present time.

I may be the admin of this program, however, in reality I am just another member. As are my Mum, my Sister in Law, my Son , and my Daughter.

Because I have had numerous emails from people that find the membership spend above their capability, I am going to put it to the existing members, can we drop the initial buy in down to $50.00, there are a number of people from developing countries that just find $100 USD too much.

Initially I set this limit because I wanted to be a site for serious people, as it seems $50 is serious money to many others, particularly from developing countries, this is a member owned program in the truest sense of the word, and your input would be appreciated.

Members are already aware that we are in profit, in fact in 2 weeks we have managed to cover all payouts for the month.

I leave it to you to comment, as you own the program as much as I do.

Pete

smile.gif Hi Pete - I think it is a good idea to drop the amount to $50 as even in Australia investors start off small until they learn the "ropes" and often invest a larger amount later. It is good to see the programme growing and we pray it continues to grow and prosper. Great work Pete
gonsaigon
QUOTE(loribee @ Feb 10 2007, 01:13 PM) [snapback]3672503[/snapback]

smile.gif Hi Pete - I think it is a good idea to drop the amount to $50 as even in Australia investors start off small until they learn the "ropes" and often invest a larger amount later. It is good to see the programme growing and we pray it continues to grow and prosper. Great work Pete


Thanks loribee,
It has been suggested to me by many others that I should start a buddy system where 2 members can combine their resources, in order to come up with the minimum of 100, I am working on a way to do this right now.

Within a day or so, I should have a plan.

Pete
cake again
QUOTE(gonsaigon @ Feb 10 2007, 11:44 AM) [snapback]3673840[/snapback]

Thanks loribee,
It has been suggested to me by many others that I should start a buddy system where 2 members can combine their resources, in order to come up with the minimum of 100, I am working on a way to do this right now.

Within a day or so, I should have a plan.

Pete


Hi Pete wave.gif

I hope your house-move went well. You'll probably be living out of boxes for the next month. tongue4.gif

Whatever you think is a good move for the program and won't harm it in any way should definitely be considered. I'm happy to go with the flow. smile.gif

Cake peace.gif
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