QUOTE(nenumphar @ Nov 14 2007, 06:31 PM) [snapback]4489078[/snapback]
Oh Dorky, you sure are a loyal friend of Pete and precious for anyone to have as a friend! I sure would love to have a friend like you, they are rare these days.
But as I said before, yes, I have seen Pete's wife on other forums for sure. Latest in the beginning of November. Just makes one wonder if Pete truly were sick and in hospital why she doesn't answer your emails or come to this forum. It would not take too much of her time and I'm sure she knows what Pete has been up to.
ermm.. thats sad to see that petes wife have been on other forum when we are all clueless about pete and BTD.. is there anyway we can get a hold of him?
nenumphar
Nov 15 2007, 09:10 AM
QUOTE(kudabelang @ Nov 15 2007, 12:58 PM) [snapback]4490600[/snapback]
ermm.. thats sad to see that petes wife have been on other forum when we are all clueless about pete and BTD.. is there anyway we can get a hold of him?
Sorry kudabelang and others, too. I´m not in the position to give any more information about that. I'm sure those who know Pete also know her wife and can quite easily confirm what I told here. That is all I want to say about it. I only told this to cut the speculations that they would not be able to contact any of the BTD members.
@Dorky, you are sweet and I hope you keep on being your own self no matter what
Peach
Nov 18 2007, 11:42 PM
QUOTE(Dorky @ Nov 15 2007, 01:44 PM) [snapback]4489849[/snapback]
@ Peach... such a lovely name. I didn't realize before my last post, but I see you are an Aussie. I read through your posts from your first to your last.. I see you are or were into doublers.. I dabble a bit there as well, very social group, love it. In the beginning you made a couple of nice posts, and I see you are a poet.. then as time went on the only posts you seem to have made about any program was very negitave... I find that sad. No matter what happens in life, their always is a bright side, even if you don't see it at first. Give it a chance, and eventually you will. Everyone has good in them, but in some it is a bit harder to find. I look forward to seeing you in "happier" times, hopefully this will be reflected in your posts.
I live my life happy so I'm always in 'happier' times. I do feel a little down when I find out that a fellow Australian has scammed. The moment you declare either by your profile or in post that you are an Australian your actions from then on effect all other Australians.
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To sum up my feelings here.. well I am confused, and frustrated. I feel a lump in my throat, and a nagging pain in my chest. I truly believe that something drastic has happened to Pete. I will always live in hope and look forward the future, whatever it may bring.
Dorky
These feelings are because you trusted Pete and sent him your money. You upgraded here not because of your DD on the [cough] investments made but because Pete was an old timer and had gained your trust. What did you find so attractive about BTD other than Pete being the admin? Will you now apologise to HYIPDoctor2?
kudabelang
Nov 20 2007, 01:58 AM
ermm.. any way we can get our money back?
Dorky
Nov 20 2007, 02:53 AM
QUOTE(Peach @ Nov 19 2007, 05:42 PM) [snapback]4498309[/snapback]
I live my life happy so I'm always in 'happier' times. I do feel a little down when I find out that a fellow Australian has scammed. The moment you declare either by your profile or in post that you are an Australian your actions from then on effect all other Australians. These feelings are because you trusted Pete and sent him your money. You upgraded here not because of your DD on the [cough] investments made but because Pete was an old timer and had gained your trust. What did you find so attractive about BTD other than Pete being the admin? Will you now apologise to HYIPDoctor2?
Hi Peach
I see you asked me some questions. I will answer them for you.
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You upgraded here not because of your DD on the [cough] investments made but because Pete was an old timer and had gained your trust.
The above quote is your misconception in the matter. I upgraded here because I did do my DD on Pete. He really was not hard to trace around the place. Over the conversations had over virtual beers over Messenger we found out a lot about each other. I found him honest and upfront. We rarely ever talked "shop", but about all sorts of things, really relaxing. He had just retired, and settling back into an easier life. I won't disclose our personal conversations, as they are just that. "Personal". I checked out his "old business" and easily discovered that infact he was an importer.. so he certainly had the right contacts for the real business that we were in with BTD. He never made any type of deal with anyone, which many admins try to get more money from you. I laid my cards on the table with him, and so did he. That is why I am very heartbroken with the no contact from at least Mrs. Pete. I have sent emails to the known real emails of Pete and Sally. But to date I really have had no reply.. but everyday I live in hope that someone will reply.
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Will you now apologise to HYIPDoctor2?
Will I now apologise to HYIPDoctor2... I would really like to know what I have to apologize to him for.
@ HYIPDoctor2, I will contact you to discuss what I have done to need an apology..
Dorky
aussiefox
Nov 20 2007, 07:27 AM
QUOTE(Dorky @ Nov 20 2007, 09:53 PM) [snapback]4500835[/snapback]
Hi Peach
I see you asked me some questions. I will answer them for you. The above quote is your misconception in the matter. I upgraded here because I did do my DD on Pete. He really was not hard to trace around the place. Over the conversations had over virtual beers over Messenger we found out a lot about each other. I found him honest and upfront. We rarely ever talked "shop", but about all sorts of things, really relaxing. He had just retired, and settling back into an easier life. I won't disclose our personal conversations, as they are just that. "Personal". I checked out his "old business" and easily discovered that infact he was an importer.. so he certainly had the right contacts for the real business that we were in with BTD. He never made any type of deal with anyone, which many admins try to get more money from you. I laid my cards on the table with him, and so did he. That is why I am very heartbroken with the no contact from at least Mrs. Pete. I have sent emails to the known real emails of Pete and Sally. But to date I really have had no reply.. but everyday I live in hope that someone will reply. Will I now apologise to HYIPDoctor2... I would really like to know what I have to apologize to him for.
@ HYIPDoctor2, I will contact you to discuss what I have done to need an apology..
Dorky
I can also vouch that Pete was an importer. I too had numerous conversations with him when he was ending his business and all that was involved in it. He even sent me some excess stock he had bought in Vietnam, a lovely set of 4 handcarved wooden ducks. He had no need to try and win my trust, or prove anything to me, as at the time I didn't have two cents to rub together, and Pete was well aware of that.
kudabelang
Nov 26 2007, 01:54 PM
ermm.. its exactly 4 months since pete came in here.. so sad that BTD is in this kind of state..
ninong
Nov 29 2007, 03:53 PM
My last investment to BTD was last July 2007, it would have been 4 months x 125% already. But I will be glad to have the initial money invested if Pete can still do it. Not even a single and simple hint was posted until todate. Oh my, not expecting to have it anymore anyway.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.
HaleBopp
Nov 29 2007, 08:14 PM
QUOTE(ninong @ Nov 29 2007, 05:53 PM) [snapback]4520772[/snapback]
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.
And to you as well, ninong.
Cashmaster
Dec 1 2007, 01:28 AM
QUOTE(HaleBopp @ Nov 12 2007, 07:48 AM) [snapback]4484575[/snapback]
Well, we have managed to keep the thread going for 17 pages and just under 4 months. What doesn't make any sense is that Pete had the program going for 7 months and it was a slow-go. This program never really caught fire and had people clamoring to throw their money in. It was slow, steady, and building. If Pete wanted to scam, why would he pick that point to do it? He couldn't have made off with much, in my opinion. Most everybody in here was rolling over their money month to month. I just don't buy it. There is a lot that goes on in here - in this forum and in this arena. This "industry" depends on people and "stuff" happens to people. We're all pretty anonymous around here and if something happens to one of us, who would know or be able to report back? Pete's wife, perhaps, but I am going to assume that she has more on her mind than just us (if we're on her radar at all).
I know this all sounds incredibly naive, but I feel I have been around long enough to smell a scam from something else. Pete put a lot of effort into all this for quite a while just to up and leave with peanuts (of course that all depends on your definition of peanuts). And I don't think that everybody who has been around a while needs to be deemed untrustworthy. Some, sure, but not all. And I still don't believe Pete is untrustworthy
Not naive at all, right on. There are some admins, who just "leave with peanuts" (if not with the loss!), because once they realize, that most of the programs around, "smell" big time, they want to do things right. The problem is, they lack experience in actually doing it. The reality is different, they are bound to loose to scammers, who have a "luxury" of learning better and better, with every next program they run...
kudabelang
Dec 12 2007, 01:06 PM
i guess thats it for BTD.. no news from pete or sally for nearly 5 months now.. too bad we didnt know what really happens and no way for us getting the money back..
well im quitting the online arena for now.. good luck to the others.. i will drop by few times a month ..
take care all..
to pete.. its a shame it ends up like this after u told me all is okay and said i can put all the money i want just a few days before u gone.. u hate scammers but in the end u r just like them.. wonder why ur wife can post at other forum but didnt come here and post anything.. well thats online for you..
later guys
CrazyNo
Dec 14 2007, 05:02 PM
Yes, it's very sad kudabelang. I don't think Pete and Sally will be feeling very comfortable and content with themselves during this Christmas season, if they've got any conscience that is.
jamm
Dec 25 2007, 04:54 AM
QUOTE(CrazyNo @ Dec 15 2007, 09:02 AM) [snapback]4551842[/snapback]
Yes, it's very sad kudabelang. I don't think Pete and Sally will be feeling very comfortable and content with themselves during this Christmas season, if they've got any conscience that is.
I do hope Pete will come thru ... but in the meantime ... Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.
Pete ... Dont let us down please. At least, come back and tell us what happened. I wish you all the best and have a merry christmas, and may next year be a better year for all of us.
Dorky
Dec 25 2007, 05:10 AM
I have been meaning to come here to wish all my fellow breakers a Merry Christmas. We are a unique mob us Breakers!
Looks as though our Drought Breaking was just a storm.. I am really sorry that it seems to have ended this way. I have tried my darndest to contact Pete's family.. we really need closure, one way or the other. But to me it is that I have lost a mate. I PM'ed Pete today wishing him a Merry Christmas.. but still no reply to any of my emails..
I just want to make it clear here, yes, I had a lot of money with Pete, but for the life of me I can't work out what has gone wrong. Surely Mrs. Pete could contact me if things were that bad. I am a big boy, I can take it. Friendship to me is worth more than money. Yeah, I won't deny that some money at the moment would help my destitute situation in my offline life. Times are tough, but somehow I will work it out. Sacrifices made are slowly getting me over the line. But it is certainly hard only working with 50mb a month from my ISP, but that is the cheapest I could get! Better than nothing.
So chin up Breakers, enjoy your Christmas and look forward to next year.
Dorky
HaleBopp
Dec 25 2007, 07:13 AM
I, too, would like to wish all my fellow Breakers a very Merry Christmas! (And to you, Pete, wherever you are...)
Thanks for your efforts, Dorky. Some closure sure would be nice. I am not sure why, but this time the program ending just feels different. I can't just walk away shrugging my shoulders...
jamm
Dec 26 2007, 12:43 AM
QUOTE(HaleBopp @ Dec 25 2007, 11:13 PM) [snapback]4571711[/snapback]
I, too, would like to wish all my fellow Breakers a very Merry Christmas! (And to you, Pete, wherever you are...)
Thanks for your efforts, Dorky. Some closure sure would be nice. I am not sure why, but this time the program ending just feels different. I can't just walk away shrugging my shoulders...
Yes, thank you Dorky for your efforts ... I really wish and hope that Pete or his wife can give us some closure . ..
IanSane_BC
Dec 27 2007, 08:08 AM
Thanks for the note Dorky, as usual you put into words what others think and feel. Straight up, no fuss. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! To all here and those MIA...
ninong
Dec 28 2007, 10:01 PM
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL & TO PETE GONSAIGON whether you're in Bed getting better or in Coma or wherever you are enjoying your life with your wife and your grandchildren. Get well soonest now.
God Bless you all and your families.
Dorky
Dec 31 2007, 04:44 AM
Just dropped bye to wish my fellow breakers a
I don't know if I will actually be still awake, but only one and a half hours to go!!
I have to pinch myself to think that I made it to 2008 !!
Dorky
HYIPDoctor2
Jan 1 2008, 06:28 AM
Pete, do think of us breakers when spending the money...
kudabelang
Jan 24 2008, 04:10 PM
i miss the old times when all payments are punctual n we all have fun in here..
jamm
Jan 27 2008, 09:01 PM
QUOTE(kudabelang @ Jan 25 2008, 08:10 AM) [snapback]4634698[/snapback]
i miss the old times when all payments are punctual n we all have fun in here..
Pete, you promised me to pay whats due if this program should close. I am in dire need now to pay my son's uni fees. Thank you.
justdoit
Mar 29 2008, 12:46 PM
It is amazing to me that Pete was able to skate by with practically no consequence or repercussions of running off with everyone's money. Being able to trust someone that you know is trustworthy is one thing but absolute blind trust that some members showed here just amazes me. Is nobody angry about the loss of their money?? I don't think that Pete should have gotten by so easily!!
Globalprofits
Mar 29 2008, 04:39 PM
QUOTE(justdoit @ Mar 30 2008, 07:46 AM) [snapback]4783487[/snapback]
It is amazing to me that Pete was able to skate by with practically no consequence or repercussions of running off with everyone's money. Being able to trust someone that you know is trustworthy is one thing but absolute blind trust that some members showed here just amazes me. Is nobody angry about the loss of their money?? I don't think that Pete should have gotten by so easily!!
I don't know about other members but when i "Gambled" my money in this High Risk Online Program i knew what the risk were and that is why i only spent what i could afford to lose, i lost a fair chunk here but it was all profit from other online programs so i can still feed the family.
This and PV Investments were the last of these kamikaze flip a coin type programs that i put my hard earned money in, i now trade forex and have complete control of losing my own money......He He He.......
So i just laugh when i see people jumping up and down about losing money in these types of High Risk programs as if they where in some Guaranteed legal investment fund, if you can't afford to gamble with your money then don't hang around a Hyip forum.......
Good luck everyone......
GP
jamm
Apr 24 2008, 10:45 PM
QUOTE (justdoit @ Mar 30 2008, 04:46 AM)
It is amazing to me that Pete was able to skate by with practically no consequence or repercussions of running off with everyone's money. Being able to trust someone that you know is trustworthy is one thing but absolute blind trust that some members showed here just amazes me. Is nobody angry about the loss of their money?? I don't think that Pete should have gotten by so easily!!
Well, I am disappointed and angry. But what can I do? Tell me and I will do it ... Pete assured me several times that whatever happens he will pay me ...
Obviously trusting a trustworthy person is also not right ...
Globalprofits
May 6 2008, 03:00 AM
QUOTE (jamm @ Apr 25 2008, 04:45 PM)
Well, I am disappointed and angry. But what can I do? Tell me and I will do it ... Pete assured me several times that whatever happens he will pay me ...
Obviously trusting a trustworthy person is also not right ...
There is only one thing that you can do jamm, learn form your mistakes and move on!
Here is a saying for you "when I point the finger of blame three fingers are always pointed back at me!"
I lost plenty here but in the end the buck stops with me, i wasn't forced by anyone to invest here and i new the risk.
Good luck
GP
Dorky
Dec 17 2008, 01:53 AM
Dear Pete,
Most things you can put behind you and move on. But this is one that I can't. This time of year for me, gets me down.. many memories from the past, not too many good ones.
I feel in a way responsible that you got away scot-free here, our BTD family was such a great bunch of people. I had no idea that you had the capability to do what you did to us all. I know others were concerned for your health, and I was worried sick, now seems all well orchestrated or was temptation too much..you left some mighty big footprints on the www.. I won't go into details.. that is gone, but not forgotten. But you know, I actually feel sorry for Pete, as you has to live the remainder of your life looking over your shoulder.. There is no threat from me, but one day you might just run into somebody that knows you. You used me Pete, like a pawn in your game. That is the part that is really hurting.. not the money. Of course I am disappointed. Yes, good old Dorky..you have no idea how much this is still eating at me.
Pete I know you are walking around the halls of MMG..I feel it. There is no way you can walk away from this industry.. you may for awhile, but you come back. Of course you will have another identity..so
Merry Christmas Pete,
I wish you well in whatever you do in this life, but please consider others and do something good with the rest of your time on earth.
Yours sincerly Dorky
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