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BannerSpot
Is it worth to risk my money in hyip or autosurf? Thinking to spend $100 weekly just for fun. It's almost more than 6 months i didn't invest into that anymore when i'm busy with my webmaster work.

How to check good program and latest program? Any tips?

what's your opinion? wub.gif
eiranis
People say "no risk, no gain"... but as an advice do not risk your money. Now if you don't mind "investing" your money, even if there's a high chance of loosing it, then I'll say go for HYIP.
megaplex
WELCOME TO THE PARADOX OF HYIP'S.

I wrote this article back in October 2006 when I discovered that
low percentage plans were out performing high percentage plans.


With Regards to HYIP's, Don’t be hard on yourselves folks.

WHY?

Because the Paradox has you. Not the Matrix but the Paradox, is what has you in the case of HYIP's.

The Paradox

What is the Paradox? In HYIP's its where, BIG becomes small and small becomes BIG.
Fast becomes slow and Slow actually becomes fast.

WHY?
Because most people go for fast, which is big percentage programs like 10% 20% 30% plus a day.

Anything like 1%, 2% and 3%, is felt to be too slow.

However, as most playas are finding out, much to their disappointment, these high rate programs
actually create Hare and Tortoise effect. Which is the side effect of The Paradox.

What is the Hare & Tortoise effect?

Here's a real time example,

Hare
For the last six months I have played lots of high % HYIPS ranging from 8% to 50% a day.
I played in over $4000 into these stupid deals. Result, I only to have a twentyth of that left.

Tortoise
During that same period I also put just $1500 into a 2 - 3% daily, a small percentage deal
by HYIP standards but high by real world standards. Result, I now have 5 times my money
plus bonuses on top of that equaling $10,000.

Just try to do that with these halfarsed high percentage HYIP's.

Now here is the Klanger, if I had put the $4000 into this low % deal I would have current earnings of
approximately $600 per day with peace of mind thrown in.

So this is where slow becomes fast and small becomes big.

So why does this paradox exist? Impatience mixed with greed is what creates the paradox.

So how good do these high percentage HYIP deals look now????

Hare and Tortoise effect.

So 1% to 3% program, slow becomes fast and 10% to 50% game, fast becomes slow.
Small becomes BIG and BIG becomes small. Six solid months of solid hands on experience proves it.

Strange how things work isn’t it.

HOW TO WIN.

Flip the switch and everything will change if you apply some patience and go for slow and low.
Within 1 year you will be financially independent.

That’s The Paradox, I have struggled with this lesson mainly because HYIP''s really are full on
gambling but I didn’t recognize that. I wouldn’t play online poker or Black Jack or Lotto with the sort
of money I put into HYIP because HYIP''s seem to be unrelated. In fact HYIP''s are worse than gambling.

The only challenge now is to get enough funds into the system early enough
to make some good profits 6 months down the track.

Having enough funds is the challenge and its why Low percentage plans have
been unfairly dubed FatWallet deals.

Moxyplox
v
Megaplex
BannerSpot
QUOTE(eiranis @ Jan 11 2007, 11:55 PM) [snapback]3510759[/snapback]

People say "no risk, no gain"... but as an advice do not risk your money. Now if you don't mind "investing" your money, even if there's a high chance of loosing it, then I'll say go for HYIP.



Is there any research articles regarding how many pertencage of winning in this kind of program been produce? Is there any investor that rely on hyip/autosurf to make money?

QUOTE(megaplex @ Jan 12 2007, 01:16 AM) [snapback]3511061[/snapback]

WELCOME TO THE PARADOX OF HYIP'S.

I wrote this article back in October 2006 when I discovered that
low percentage plans were out performing high percentage plans.


With Regards to HYIP's, Don’t be hard on yourselves folks.

WHY?

Because the Paradox has you. Not the Matrix but the Paradox, is what has you in the case of HYIP's.

The Paradox

What is the Paradox? In HYIP's its where, BIG becomes small and small becomes BIG.
Fast becomes slow and Slow actually becomes fast.

WHY?
Because most people go for fast, which is big percentage programs like 10% 20% 30% plus a day.

Anything like 1%, 2% and 3%, is felt to be too slow.

However, as most playas are finding out, much to their disappointment, these high rate programs
actually create Hare and Tortoise effect. Which is the side effect of The Paradox.

What is the Hare & Tortoise effect?

Here's a real time example,

Hare
For the last six months I have played lots of high % HYIPS ranging from 8% to 50% a day.
I played in over $4000 into these stupid deals. Result, I only to have a twentyth of that left.

Tortoise
During that same period I also put just $1500 into a 2 - 3% daily, a small percentage deal
by HYIP standards but high by real world standards. Result, I now have 5 times my money
plus bonuses on top of that equaling $10,000.

Just try to do that with these halfarsed high percentage HYIP's.

Now here is the Klanger, if I had put the $4000 into this low % deal I would have current earnings of
approximately $600 per day with peace of mind thrown in.

So this is where slow becomes fast and small becomes big.

So why does this paradox exist? Impatience mixed with greed is what creates the paradox.

So how good do these high percentage HYIP deals look now????

Hare and Tortoise effect.

So 1% to 3% program, slow becomes fast and 10% to 50% game, fast becomes slow.
Small becomes BIG and BIG becomes small. Six solid months of solid hands on experience proves it.

Strange how things work isn’t it.

HOW TO WIN.

Flip the switch and everything will change if you apply some patience and go for slow and low.
Within 1 year you will be financially independent.

That’s The Paradox, I have struggled with this lesson mainly because HYIP''s really are full on
gambling but I didn’t recognize that. I wouldn’t play online poker or Black Jack or Lotto with the sort
of money I put into HYIP because HYIP''s seem to be unrelated. In fact HYIP''s are worse than gambling.

The only challenge now is to get enough funds into the system early enough
to make some good profits 6 months down the track.

Having enough funds is the challenge and its why Low percentage plans have
been unfairly dubed FatWallet deals.

Moxyplox
v
Megaplex



Thanks for this information. So I need to risk my money in high risk with fast return or low risk with long return? Any advice from hyip gurus? wub.gif
megaplex
Tortoise plans as in my article 1% to 3%.

Dont be sucked in by plans offering higher.
..::[CoutureChic]::..
If its a calculated risk then yes its worth it wink.gif
megaplex
QUOTE
::..' date='Jan 12 2007, 08:12 PM' post='3512172']
If its a calculated risk then yes its worth it wink.gif


What is their to calculate ?

Not a whole lot as it goes usually.

So really it ends up being a bet, disguised as s perceived predictable outcome.

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..::[CoutureChic]::..
I was referring to calculated risk as in a proper investment term...m not talking abt the 100bucks that TS mentioned doh.gif

Ok give a layman example to explore the meaning of "calculated risk" the amount of money one is willing to loose OR even losing that amount of money, it will not affect his/her living/lifestyle tongue4.gif
Sand
hmm... after you count off all clear scams, I would say, its possible to earn some profit from ~50% of games if you invest only few $ and in first day.
notset
QUOTE(BannerSpot @ Jan 12 2007, 06:52 AM) [snapback]3510746[/snapback]
Thinking to spend $100 weekly just for fun.

If just for fun, then ok, because current HYIPs are too risky for serious investment.

I would advice one simple thing: don't ever invest to programs which use GC script, because all scams use it.
MrBIG
stay away from obvious scams

lots of real opportunites around

however its like talking to brick wall
megaplex
QUOTE
::..' date='Jan 12 2007, 08:36 PM' post='3512268']
Ok give a layman example to explore the meaning of "calculated risk" the amount of money one is willing to loose OR even losing that amount of money, it will not affect his/her living/lifestyle tongue4.gif


If you were to truly explore the meaning of calculated risk lets considering the following.

1. You would start you own program.

With your own program you eliminated many considerable risk factors.

If you were absolutely serious about making predictable earnings this is what you would first look at.

2. Anything that pays more than 3% per day is unlikely in todays environment to see you break even.

3. (FWD) Fat Wallet deal. Don't play these programs unless you have a fat wallet.
However if you had a Fat Wallet to start with you wouldn't play these deals anyway.

4. Its better that you develop good contacts that are in programs that have progressive
educational programs that are well founded and well grounded with real time learning
and earning.

M






=Ady=
say NO to hyips

JonnyRoles
If it\'s really only \"for fun\", than do it. But one thing: NEVER make plans for hyip money smile.gif
megaplex
QUOTE(JonnyRoles @ Jan 12 2007, 11:48 PM) [snapback]3513337[/snapback]

If it\'s really only \"for fun\", than do it. But one thing: NEVER make plans for hyip money smile.gif

HYIP's are less than fun, go carting is fun.
=Ady=
QUOTE(megaplex @ Jan 12 2007, 04:55 PM) [snapback]3513371[/snapback]

HYIP's are less than fun, go carting is fun.



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..::[CoutureChic]::..
QUOTE(megaplex @ Jan 12 2007, 03:29 PM) [snapback]3513200[/snapback]

If you were to truly explore the meaning of calculated risk lets considering the following.

1. You would start you own program.

With your own program you eliminated many considerable risk factors.

If you were absolutely serious about making predictable earnings this is what you would first look at.

2. Anything that pays more than 3% per day is unlikely in todays environment to see you break even.

3. (FWD) Fat Wallet deal. Don't play these programs unless you have a fat wallet.
However if you had a Fat Wallet to start with you wouldn't play these deals anyway.

4. Its better that you develop good contacts that are in programs that have progressive
educational programs that are well founded and well grounded with real time learning
and earning.

M



Hmmmm never really thought that a simple reply to another person's post would result in the interest of yours...


My answers to your apparently long posts are as follows lol...

Firstly, I have no time nor do I intend to put too much time/attention in terms of calculated risk...

1a) I don't intend to start any programs or whatsoever as its a waste of my time (I have other avenues of income)

1b)I been investing since I was at a young age so I know stuff regarding serious investments etc and even if otherwise you will NOT be the person that I would seek advice/opinions from...

2)It's NOT true that anything that pays 3% or more wouldn't work blah blah blah...

3)Oh thanks for your concern about the size of my wallet....sorry to disappoint you with the fact that I do HAVE a FAT WALLET...in fact it's something that only you can dream of having...wonder where you get those ridiculous ideas that I'm deeply involved in those deals I meant come on wake up please....do you honestly think that all people who hangout or visit MMG only involved in "those deals"? (Well if you look around you can seek different people do different things in MMG)...if you still think otherwise then I suggest you better wake up from your fantasizing dreams...

4)Well I do have good contacts and thanks for your concern but I don't understand the rest of your post #4



ChrisMono
if you are playing with the money just to feed a gambling addiction, choose high roi sites..

if you are playing with the money to make a profit, choose low ROi sites

spread your investments wisely
jafar00
QUOTE(BannerSpot @ Jan 11 2007, 08:52 PM) [snapback]3510746[/snapback]

Is it worth to risk my money in hyip or autosurf? Thinking to spend $100 weekly just for fun. I


If its just for fun and you can lose $100 without getting too upset, then do what you like. They are all scams.
010081
QUOTE(jafar00 @ Jan 12 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]3514739[/snapback]

If its just for fun and you can lose $100 without getting too upset, then do what you like. They are all scams.



If all is here is scam. Do investor make profits from this? I saw lots of people in this industry. LOL
JonnyRoles
Not everything is a scam, there are ways to make honest and big money, and it usually includes your own trading and effort.
texas97
yes, if you are a risk taker.

if someone loses money then where does it go?

either to the admin or the winning members, right?

you may be the charmed one, so it's worth a try. smile.gif

but if you lose, don't blame me. doh.gif

... you clicked the confirm button. harhar.gif
slim49z
QUOTE(=Ady= @ Jan 12 2007, 06:37 AM) [snapback]3513262[/snapback]

say NO to hyips



I would only say one thing. Hyips are too risky to try,but sometimes they pay. However never trust any hyip program, no mattter how strong they are. And always invest as little as you can be able to loose! tongue4.gif
Mayhem
if you like short term excitment, go HYIP clapping7.gif
BannerSpot
For few weeks investing i've lost some of my money and the best part is i also profited with it. The "key" to success is diversify and ONLY play hit and run.
davidscript
If you have it to risk, that's entirely up to you... if you don't, then no.
ImAWinner
Of course its worth the risk all you do is look over a site make some quick judgements about the site and put your password in egold and click the submit button. Thats not real work unlike a boss looking over your shoulder and calling shots all day when you can do what. Its easy money its just spend, forget about it, then check at end for result(positive or negative).
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