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Thank you for the recent deposits. Payday is coming soon at an account near you.
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If anyone have any inquiries, please PM me. Thank you for the recent deposits. Payday is coming soon at an account near you. God Bless Faith
Hi Faith,
I too would like to participate, make a deposit. Please PM me instructions on how to get started using money order. Also, I sent you an email last night as soon as I found out about this program. ( I just wanted to let you know I`m David Meyers the same person who sent the email ) I am excited too! Oh, I also enjoyed visited your business websites. Thanks for being a part of bringing CellCFund to us. David Meyers Houston, TX QUOTE(sharewealth @ Feb 8 2007, 03:58 PM) [snapback]3666167[/snapback] Hi Faith, I too would like to participate, make a deposit. Please PM me instructions on how to get started using money order. Also, I sent you an email last night as soon as I found out about this program. ( I just wanted to let you know I`m David Meyers the same person who sent the email ) I am excited too! Oh, I also enjoyed visited your business websites. Thanks for being a part of bringing CellCFund to us. David Meyers Houston, TX David, I just arrived back safely into my abode and am sending you a PM now. Already sent email but since you are using AOL, I want to make sure that this gets to you via PM. Thank you, David for your interest and we are of course, looking forward to doing business with you. edited: on 2nd thought since you do not have 25 or more posts in MMG, I cannot PM you so check your email. The first one bounced back but I managed to get past AOL's email restrictions and resent the email. Please confirm receipt. God Bless Faith
1 MONTH ANNIVERSARY!
Tomorrow morning is our 1 month anniversary and am pleased to say that we have operated with ZERO DEFECTS! No problems have been reported. ALL customer service requests and inquiries have been addressed within 24 hours. ALL early lenders in both PLAN A (114% 30days) AND PLAN B (150% 90days) have been paid WELL IN ADVANCE of their principal maturation date! =============== All deposits were processed successfully and confirmation emails have been sent to the CELLCFund lenders with new deposits. Thank you to ALL of our lenders and to continued success with this win-win formula! God Bless Faith QUOTE(fsloan @ Feb 8 2007, 10:29 PM) [snapback]3668000[/snapback] 1 MONTH ANNIVERSARY! Tomorrow morning is our 1 month anniversary and am pleased to say that we have operated with ZERO DEFECTS! No problems have been reported. ALL customer service requests and inquiries have been addressed within 24 hours. ALL early lenders in both PLAN A (114% 30days) AND PLAN B (150% 90days) have been paid WELL IN ADVANCE of their principal maturation date! =============== All deposits were processed successfully and confirmation emails have been sent to the CELLCFund lenders with new deposits. Thank you to ALL of our lenders and to continued success with this win-win formula! God Bless Faith I am certainly happy with this business, just wish I had more to loan! hopefully I will have more soon. Thanks, Faith, for this great opportunity!
We are not dependent upon an influx of lenders ... we are not looking for hundreds and thousands of lenders to throw money into our coffers just for money sake!
As mentioned before, we may need to stop taking deposits if we find that too much cash is being infused into the business. Why? Because we may not be able to quickly turn a profit on the money. We don't want your cash sitting WAITING to be turned over. So at that time, all depositing activity will be STOPPED. At that time, All existing lenders will be given private membership status and CELLCFund will temporarily closed to any new lenders. When this happen, we will give you ample notice beforehand. God Bless Faith
A testimonial from someone who loves our Customer Service.
----- QUOTE Hi Faith, I apologize that I haven't contacted you regarding the money order <PERSONAL INFO SNIPPED by Faith> Thank you very much for the PM. That's what I call "Customer Service" which is why I know I'm making a good investment choice here. Thank you very, very much for your continued support! For this, we are pleased. God Bless Faith
Faith, I just made a deposit. Thank you for this opportunity!
QUOTE(slappy @ Feb 10 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]3674532[/snapback] Faith, I just made a deposit. Thank you for this opportunity! Slappy, we have received your deposit. Thank you for doing business with CELLCFund. You will receive a confirmation email within the next hour. God Bless Faith QUOTE(mjst @ Feb 9 2007, 09:56 AM) [snapback]3669879[/snapback] I am certainly happy with this business, just wish I had more to loan! hopefully I will have more soon. Thanks, Faith, for this great opportunity! We do what we do best. We take your loan, we turn a profit, we return you a nice share of our profit. Plain and simple. A pleasure doing business with you and ... God Bless Faith
WOW! You guys are keeping me very, very busy. We are responding to inquiries within a matter of hours rather than minutes now.
But we are all caught up with the new deposits and all customer requests have been addressed satisfactorily. Thank you for doing business with CELLCFund and looking forward to a long profitable future with you, our lenders. God Bless Faith
Faith,
I would love to have more info on becoming a member of CELLCFund! I'm your average autosurfer, but this business looks very stable and legit. I'm in one other program, fantasticpay, which is very similar to this but involves real estate and they've worked out very well. Thanks! Joshua p.s. not enough posts here yet to PM so i believe i can receive them but not reply directly so if you have any other means of contact, that would be appreciated! Thanks again! QUOTE(Mrandersuun @ Feb 10 2007, 04:39 PM) [snapback]3676720[/snapback] Faith, I would love to have more info on becoming a member of CELLCFund! I'm your average autosurfer, but this business looks very stable and legit. I'm in one other program, fantasticpay, which is very similar to this but involves real estate and they've worked out very well. Thanks! Joshua p.s. not enough posts here yet to PM so i believe i can receive them but not reply directly so if you have any other means of contact, that would be appreciated! Thanks again! Thank you for your inquiry, Joshua. Of course we have other means of communication. I prefer PM because I get notified quicker but I will by no means limit you with my biased preferences. Send an email to support @ cellcfund . com without all of the spaces. We can then communicate in more detail. Then if you so desire, we can also speak voice to voice depending upon your preference. Wishing you all the best in all of your endeavors and ... God Bless Faith
http://talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1...mp;postcount=19
QUOTE What vague details of any "business plan" can you offer that would illustrate to anyone how you and/or Mr. Christian can make any kind of profit borrowing money at 200% per year when the other companies in the business of leasing/selling cars pay 10% per year for the money they borrow? Just wondering why you never bothered addressing this question that was asked in the TG thread? Good question. Yet you got very defensive and even wanted to have TG remove the entire thread. Could it be that this "Christian" fellow is not really a legal and licensed business man? Which might explain why he's willing to dish out a 200% roi instead of 10-15% from a bank? If that's the case, then that doesn't necessarily mean that the admin has an intention to scam, but this is no different than an illegal hyip, which you're touting as being a legit business. Sorry, but this to me sounds like a ponzi, masked as a "legit" corporation, much like the MLM's who tout the "writing short articles" gig, but are really just well disguised pyramid schemes... but that's admittedly just my theory. But I'd be interested in hearing the above answer.
I would like to join this somewheres down the line.I can't join right now because I put all of my spending money into something else before I found out about this.I wish you all the best, and congrats on having a program that people can trust.
QUOTE(davidscript @ Feb 10 2007, 06:05 PM) [snapback]3676977[/snapback] http://talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1...mp;postcount=19 Just wondering why you never bothered addressing this question that was asked in the TG thread? Good question. Yet you got very defensive and even wanted to have TG remove the entire thread. Could it be that this "Christian" fellow is not really a legal and licensed business man? Which might explain why he's willing to dish out a 200% roi instead of 10-15% from a bank? If that's the case, then that doesn't necessarily mean that the admin has an intention to scam, but this is no different than an illegal hyip, which you're touting as being a legit business. Sorry, but this to me sounds like a ponzi, masked as a "legit" corporation, much like the MLM's who tout the "writing short articles" gig, but are really just well disguised pyramid schemes... but that's admittedly just my theory. But I'd be interested in hearing the above answer. Hi David. I am willing to answer any questions which are relevant to CELLCFund. If I am not able to answer the question, then I am human enough to say that I don't know and have no intention on admonishing you for asking questions you feel are right on point. I am glad you provided a link to the TG forum discussion so everyone can truly see the content of it without having to speculate. Thank you, david for that. I find it rather interesting that since shipdlt is against the 'games' you participate in that now you feel comfortable enough using his post to justify some type of ulterior motive. None the less, let me address your questions/concers as that is what I do. So, let me write while I read above. 1. Manley Christian is a legal and licensed business man. Go to http://www.betterbusinessbureau.org. There you will search for Car Rental Express. You can also search for Christian Enterprises, LLC. In addition, you can VISIT any of the 3 Car Rental Express locations in Greenville, Spartanburg, and Easley, South Carolina, USA. ALL addresses and business operate during normal business hours. There you will ALSO find the telephone number and address of the main location. David, if you would have read the first post of this thread, there you would find the telephone number where you can speak with him voice to voice. So business legitimacy question was answered. If not, call and/or come visit sometime. It appears that you only had 1 question which I thoroughly answered. Oh, you asked about the TG forum and why I am not interested in promoting CELLCFund via that venue. Because, there is a member there who occupies much to much of my time by not really asking questions but challenging me on the Ponzi/HYIP/scam angle. He is an anti-scam anti-HYIP person and I actually commend him for his stance. But to accuse CELLCFund of being in that category with no proof to back up such a claim is indeed his prerogative but is not mandated that I continue to participate in that line of questioning. No matter how many times I offered to have him speak with Manley Christian, he ignored it. Yet he continued with his redundant accusations. I don't mind that as we all have the right to speak and write. When the question was asked HERE and not on TalkGold by ImAWinner as to why Manley is willing to go this particular route to seek out lenders rather than go the traditional route, I did indeed answer it. Go back a few pages. ImAWinner asked the question about traditional lenders in THIS form and NOT in TG, my friend. I answered him by suggesting he ask Manley that question himself. I have a good memory. He opted not to. I am human and do not have all of the answers. So guess what happened? ImAWinner communicated with me via PM. If you go back maybe 2-3 pages, you will see that ImAWinner was satisfied with our communications and wrote the same. I do whatever I can to answer ALL questions. Now, for those of you who are reading this. I want to give you a 'little' background information as to why one would suddenly come into the CELLCFund thread to attempt to challenge me on unfounded grounds. It is acceptable to challenge one another and it is particularly acceptable and required to challenge CELLCFund. All we will do here is to present the facts. No emotional tirades. No half-baked top of the head created scenarios. Nothing on par with rocket science. Just the truth. But davidscript is an advocate of a 'game' site where the admin isn't too particular about my pointed technical questions. He is a supporter and that is perfectly fine. I am not a supporter. So why not agree to disagree without vindictiveness? But the interesting and telling thing is that in that 'game' program, supporters and principals, found it appropriate to NOT answer the questions I presented while at the same time continue day to day with contradictory and unethical behaviours. So, david, would you like to speak with Manley to answer that last question? The telephone number is on the first post of this thread. Feel free to come by in person and ask any other questions but only if you are legitimately interested in becoming a CELLCFund lender. David, I am truly pleased that you gave me the opportunity so address your 2 posed questions. The FACTS: Tthere are 2 plans 114% 30 days 150%+ 90 days where we hold the principal for an additional 90 days Another FACT: It cannot be a pyramid scheme according to US laws or any law for that matter, my friend. We do NOT have any type of referral system or recruiting requirements in order for our lenders to receive payment. Did I clear up the pyramid claim? It cannot be a PONZI as the funds are being used to acquire additional assets as stated repetitively. We do not have thousands or even hundreds of members. That in itself nullifies any accusations of being a PONZI. A PONZI requires that more and more members join who deposit more and more cash in order to pay the first ones in. If we did not have another lender sign up today in CELLCFund, guess what? CELLCFund still will stand. If you would like to continue talking about the legalities of the game you are in and how it differ from CELLCFund, why not us be civilized and discuss this voice to voice or by PM. Then with your assistance, I will summarize our conversation and post it here? Is that agreeable to you? CELLCFundis not a game such as the one you are playing where the returns are 210% in 20 days, my friend. Let us not compare apples and oranges. But be sure to call Manley Christian and be sure to come visit ANYTIME during normal business hours. Thank you for your inquiries. p.s. MMG is used as a communication medium. No cheerleading. No rah rahs. No bickering. Why? Nothing is wrong. Even customer support is excellent! This is a very quiet, clean place to be. We like that. God Bless you Faith
Actually I posted one positive time... maybe 2... in the IM thread, so I'm not sure if that really makes me a "supporter." I could have been just posting becuase of the some of the injustice and hypocrisy I've been seeing, and you better believe I'm gonna speak out against such hypocrisy, spammers, and phonies (not saying you are) whether I support a particular program or not.
Now that we cleared that up... shipdit raised some interesting points that never were addressed and still aren't. Basically there are two camps here: he knows ponzis are illegal so he's agaisnt them... I, however, know that ponzis are illegal but don't care. I say, "sure they're illegal, but if you wanna play, know what they're about and play them wisely." I respect his opinion even though we disagree, becuase he doesn't camp out in threads trolling all day like some other anit-ponzi advocates. Okay, back on topic... then you have people in between those two camps, and I have no respect for those. The ones who try and white wash the truth, presenting it as something it's not... "this is not a ponzi, but a legit business." BS... prove it. You better believe I'm gonna speak out about that, because thats what I do... expose con games and phonies Not really into calling the guy, since he can pretty much say anything he wants and I have no way to really verify it. But I'm sure someone will make that call. QUOTE(davidscript @ Feb 10 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]3677225[/snapback] Actually I posted one positive time... maybe 2... in the IM thread, so I'm not sure if that really makes me a "supporter." I could have been just posting becuase of the some of the injustice and hypocrisy I've been seeing, and you better believe I'm gonna speak out against such hypocrisy, spammers, and phonies (not saying you are) whether I support a particular program or not. Now that we cleared that up... shipdit raised some interesting points that never were addressed and still aren't. Basically there are two camps here: he knows ponzis are illegal so he's agaisnt them... I, however, know that ponzis are illegal but don't care. I say, "sure they're illegal, but if you wanna play, know what they're about and play them wisely." I respect his opinion even though we disagree, becuase he doesn't camp out in threads trolling all day like some other anit-ponzi advocates. Okay, back on topic... then you have people in between those two camps, and I have no respect for those. The ones who try and white wash the truth, presenting it as something it's not... "this is not a ponzi, but a legit business." BS... prove it. You better believe I'm gonna speak out about that, because thats what I do... expose con games and phonies Not really into calling the guy, since he can pretty much say anything he wants and I have no way to really verify it. But I'm sure someone will make that call. I would be pleased if someone made the call. That is what business numbers which have been in existence for years are for. You are saying that you believe that I am attempting to "white wash the truth". That Car Rental Express is not a legitimate business. And that this is a Ponzi. Okay, David. I respect your opinion. There is nothing I can do to prove otherwise to you. I tried but I am not good at packaging, if you will. Thank you for your challenges, but there is nothing more I can say to "prove it" to you. Thank you for your inquiries and statements. P.S. I have to eat dinner now but I will be back in about an hour and a half. If you want my personal phone number, please PM me. If you won't talk to Manley Christian, would you be willing to speak with me on my dime? I don't want to convince you of anything, I simply believe that that we can 'speak' easier voice to voice. PM me if interested. God Bless Faith
HI Faith - I tried to PM you, but for some reason....had no luck
Looking for more info on how to join. Perhaps if you could PM me the info I'd have more luck! take care, Stella QUOTE(davidscript @ Feb 10 2007, 07:09 PM) [snapback]3677225[/snapback] "this is not a ponzi, but a legit business." BS... prove it. You better believe I'm gonna speak out about that, because thats what I do... expose con games and phonies Not really into calling the guy, since he can pretty much say anything he wants and I have no way to really verify it. But I'm sure someone will make that call. I did not call mr chrisitan, but I checked 411 against the 864-346-8002 number and could not get a listing because it was a cell phone. So I then checked the address at 3206 White Horse Rd Greenville, SC 29611 for a number and found out the number was 864-220-1265. I called it and sure enough someone anwsered and said, "Car Rental Express how can I help you?" then I told them I dialed the wrong number. I still was not happy so faith emailed me her number and we discussed this further. Believe me david that call was worth my time and money. This company has a good person handling the comunications for their program. She is not only nice but also well educated. Faith anwsered every question I had. I then sent them some money.
To be perfectly honest, just a phone call doesn't mean squat. Just becuase the guy is running a rental car "business" doesn't mean he's doing it legtimately, which is the way it's being touted here. Some one needs to actually call him and ask him why he's not takng a loan from a bank, which is what a normal legal business would do, but instead choses to promote his "business" in the hyip arena and willing to pay out 200% roi instead of the much much smaller bank interest.
Come on, people, it's common sense.
I had the same though david, Thats the basic premise to why all hyips are scams. I think one of us needs to give this guy a good call.
You are confused my friend, you need to call faith....She assured me that Mr. Christian knows what he is doing and has a plan in place to cap the amount of money coming in if their is an excess. I dont think these people are stupid. You just refuse to believe that thier could be someone using this avenue to raise funds in a positive way. I believe this group is for real.
Yeah but what were trying to say is call mr manley not fsloan. Talk to him about why he doesn't borrow from a bank at 10% instead of 200%. I mean I have my deposit here and all but It still would be nice if someone called.
QUOTE(ImAWinner @ Feb 10 2007, 09:55 PM) [snapback]3677681[/snapback] Yeah but what were trying to say is call mr manley not fsloan. Talk to him about why he doesn't borrow from a bank at 10% instead of 200%. I mean I have my deposit here and all but It still would be nice if someone called. Ok, I will try to call him tomorrow and ask him that question. lol, sorry QUOTE(Flossie @ Feb 10 2007, 06:48 PM) [snapback]3677658[/snapback] You just refuse to believe that thier could be someone using this avenue to raise funds in a positive way. I believe this group is for real. Hey, nothing wrong with using whatever avenue you can to generate some extra income. In fact, I think it's a good idea. But it's not legit, which is the way it's being touted here. "Hey, it's some guy who's running a part ponzi... someone I can vouch who won't scam... and he's using the rent car "business" as a means to generate some extra income to pay the 200% roi." Done. Don't try and hide behind false pretenses and shills of being a licensed and legit businessman just to sucker in more gullible newbs on your downline. Therein lies the deceit, something that the thread starter here has gone on the offense about towards other admins. And therein lies the hypocrisy and double standards which makes me nuts and impossible for me not to respond.
your making unsupported accusations and I assume you have spoken to neither. I think it is you who needs to make the phone call and not me. I will not reply to this rubish anymore, you make the phone call and give me some proof that that this is a scam and I will gladly agree.
"he's using the rent car "business" as a means to generate some extra income to pay the 200% roi.",dscript If that is true then why is he running this at all?
I never said the admin has intentions to scam.
I can see what I'm dealing with here, so I guess I'm done for now.
Someone needs to call. I mean i treat these things MORE OR LESS all the same so im not gonna pick up the phone.
QUOTE(musiclady @ Feb 10 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]3677326[/snapback] HI Faith - I tried to PM you, but for some reason....had no luck Looking for more info on how to join. Perhaps if you could PM me the info I'd have more luck! take care, Stella Hi musiclady. I finally got back in from dinner 2 hrs late since I ended up in a residential ditch. Never knew they existed. But I made a California U-turn in Greenville, SC in front of a house in a quiet residential neighborhood. Guess what? There was a divet (is that a word?) in front of the home, and on the immediate left where my left tire ended was one of those big round tubes/pipes surrounded by concrete. So the more I rev'd the engine the more rubber I smelled since I was now stabilized precariously on only 1 tire. Now I can out maneuver snow and ice pre.valent in Chicago, Michigan, New York, Michigan but this one threw me for a loop. Called a tow truck; turned up my music and waited. Finally, short of $80 + $20 tip and 2 hours later, I am in the comfort of my abode. How Fun! But I'm still laughing and smiling. The meal was only $48. I should've called a friend who could cook, eh? I've been in SC for all of 6 months with no 'real' snow or ice and end up stuck in a residential driveway with my tire surrounded by concrete and round circular thingies which should be underground with a weak version of street lights. <LOL> But it too shall pass and it did. What I need you to do since you have not enough posts for PM is to send an email to support at cellfund dot com replacing 'at' with '@' and 'dot' with "." Still laughing ... thank you for your inquiry and looking forward to being of service. God Bless Faith QUOTE(davidscript @ Feb 10 2007, 09:28 PM) [snapback]3677606[/snapback] To be perfectly honest, just a phone call doesn't mean squat. Just becuase the guy is running a rental car "business" doesn't mean he's doing it legtimately, which is the way it's being touted here. Some one needs to actually call him and ask him why he's not takng a loan from a bank, which is what a normal legal business would do, but instead choses to promote his "business" in the hyip arena and willing to pay out 200% roi instead of the much much smaller bank interest. Come on, people, it's common sense. Thank you david and your are absolutely right. A phone number means squat with the ease of portability these days. BBB doesn't indicate that it is a GOOD business but it does indicate that the business has been operating x number of years with no bbb complaints for whatever that is worth. But if you choose not to call and you choose not to visit, then how can Manley answer your questions? Are you truly after the 'real' answer? Those were rhetorical questions with no expected answer, David. There are a whole plethhora of reasons one can speculate upon, but a phone or a real visit will at least give your the opportunity to pose your questions to the principal. I am going to have to end here and say, I am at a loss as to what other option I can offer you. Let me throw this out to you: If I am able to answer your questions to the level in which you 'expect' an answer, are you interested in becoming a lender or is this all a 'who is the big man in the sandbox' conquest? God Bless, sincerely Faith QUOTE(ImAWinner @ Feb 10 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]3677629[/snapback] I had the same though david, Thats the basic premise to why all hyips are scams. I think one of us needs to give this guy a good call. Then my gosh, what is prohibiting you from making the call? 1. Pick up the phone 2. Visit the establishment 3. Check the yellow pages (weak, i know) 4. Check the BBB 5. Check the local government records for registration and incorporation' 6. Call Faith Tell me what else you want and let me see if I can get it for you. If this is a witch hunt, I can still accommodate you with no reservation because that's who I am. What is it that you need from me? I can give you incorporation papers. I can show you around the establishment. I can , I can, I can ... I am willing I am willing ... God Bless Faith
Here is my 2 cents:
Calling or not calling is something better contemplated during business hours where there is at least someone there to answer your call if you indeed decide to call. < So no need to labor over this thought, the person who feels the need, JUST DO IT! as Faith and others indicated. Don`t waste time with speculations. davidscript, you said < I quote > Just becuase the guy is running a rental car "business" doesn't mean he's doing it legtimately... < end of quote > My question to you is: Is there any reason to believe Mr. Christian is running a rental car business illegally simply because he decides to use private loans ( personal loans from individuals ) to fund asset acquisition for his company, rather than borrow money from a bank or use other traditional business loan methods? I`m thinking of the borrowing boom that`s going on right now - PEOPLE-TO-PEOPLE LENDING. Check out what some people who are borrowing money from other people are using the loans for--- THEIR BUSINESS! ( Google Prosper.com and you`ll see what I`m talking about ) So, in my opinion Mr. Christian is doing nothing different or illegal than the the people who acquire loans from other people as I mentioned I observed at Prosper.com. davidscript, if you can show us any place written, that would even warrant a belief that Mr. Christian ( or any other business person for that matter ) who chooses this particular avenue of getting funds for asset acquisition is wrong, you have my undivided attention. Thanks again Faith, for the work that you do. David Meyers
Not wrong, just not smart.
A smart businessman isn't gonna run a business with a plan to pay 200% back to his lenders in 6 months, lol. Show me one successful legit business that borrows money against those returns. I didn't see any rates at 200% on prosper.com. They would think the person asking for that return was out of their mind. But I can certainly think of a whole slew of hyip ponzis who tried the "backed by a legit source of income" angle and we all know where they ended up. In fact, there was one touting that they customized automobiles not too long ago... can't remember the name. A "businessman" who attempts to try and turn a profit against an "asset acquisition" that costly isn't a businessman I would trust with my money... especially one who's supposedly been in business for 4 years and needs to now borrow from lenders in the hyip arena? Now if he's gonna use part of the money for his business venture to try and turn a profit and part of the money to pay back his lenders, that would make more sense, and I personally see nothing wrong with that... but then that makes it a ponzi, or at least a partial ponzi (illegal), and not a legit business, now doesn't it? QUOTE(davidscript @ Feb 11 2007, 08:36 AM) [snapback]3680521[/snapback] Not wrong, just not smart. A smart businessman isn't gonna run a business with a plan to pay 200% back to his lenders in 6 months, lol. Show me one successful legit business that borrows money against those returns. I didn't see any rates at 200% on prosper.com. They would think the person asking for that return was out of their mind. But I can certainly think of a whole slew of hyip ponzis who tried the "backed by a legit source of income" angle and we all know where they ended up. In fact, there was one touting that they customized automobiles not too long ago... can't remember the name. A "businessman" who attempts to try and turn a profit against an "asset acquisition" that costly isn't a businessman I would trust with my money... especially one who's supposedly been in business for 4 years and needs to now borrow from lenders in the hyip arena? Now if he's gonna use part of the money for his business venture to try and turn a profit and part of the money to pay back his lenders, that would make more sense, and I personally see nothing wrong with that... but then that makes it a ponzi, or at least a partial ponzi (illegal), and not a legit business, now doesn't it? I would just give a real life example that I went through with a traditional bank. I recently received a personal loan from a well known financial company in the usa. My interest rate is 19% for 5 years. I was told that because my credit was good, I got the best rate available for personal loans(and I did check out several other lenders and all were 18% and above for personal loans). So, loaning money from people at 14% per month isn't too bad of a deal considering the rate I received. It is abundantly clear that these two have no intentions of doing any real dd, their sole purpose is to cause panic and unrest among current members. They could simply make a call and ask all the questions they please, but have already said they're not going to do that. Anyone who has doubts in any program is urged to do their own dd. Enough information has been provided here to make a good informed decision and if it isn't enough, you can always call the man in charge in SC and ask for even more info. QUOTE(davidscript date='Feb 11 2007, 11:36 AM @ Feb 11 2007, 11:36 AM) [snapback]3680521[/snapback] A "businessman" who attempts to try and turn a profit against an "asset acquisition" that costly isn't a businessman I would trust with my money... especially one who's supposedly been in business for 4 years and needs to now borrow from lenders in the hyip arena? See that's the thing, davidscript. This is NOT the HYIP ARENA, this is the NON-HYIP ARENA also known as the Investment Programs (Non HYIP) Subforums. Cellcfund was originally in the HYIP section but it was moved into this section. I'm not trying to be rude or anything but how else can this be proved to you?? The truth is that you have to make that call and go visit them. I understand what you're are saying but where is your proof of what you say?? I could make the call but would you believe me?? I spoke to Faith and she answered my questions. A faith said, they don't need an influx of new recruits, hence why there's no referral link and there's no cheering here. If as you say "A "businessman" who attempts to try and turn a profit against an "asset acquisition" that costly isn't a businessman I would trust with my money", then why are you here?? Are you trying to protect us from something?? Again, I'm not trying to be rude but all I've been reading is about some definitions of PONZI and accusations of being illegal and/or not being able to secure loans from banking institutions. I thought we were in a place where you're innocent until proven guilty. Please..... Make the Call. Please... Present Proof. If you can't do either, then Please..... invest in some other program. Please. Zeus
You can't say that about me slappy, first off if you haven't noticed i put my money in the program 280 in fact. I wouldn't be surprised if that was more then what you put in here. Id be interested to hear manleys reasoning, but not enough to give a call cause i treat online stuff MORE OR LESS the same.
I dont think he understood what you meant. There is nothing wrong with asking questions, but this is a good place to be. man I cant type...
Good news, for you Dave. I spoke with Mr. Christian and here is what he told me:
"I extend him an open invitation expenses paid to come and visit us good for the next 30 days." Congratulations and hope to do business with you in the future! God Bless Faith
Yea... okay.
QUOTE(musiclady @ Feb 10 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]3677326[/snapback] HI Faith - I tried to PM you, but for some reason....had no luck Looking for more info on how to join. Perhaps if you could PM me the info I'd have more luck! take care, Stella Thank you for the email, Stella. I sent you the details via email and thank you for your inquiry. Looking forward to doing business with you. God Bless Faith Sorry, Stella. I believe that I have yet to receive your email. Send to support @ cellcfund . com Jan, hope you received the email. I just received your PM. Thank you both and looking forward to doing business with you soon as CELLCFund lenders. God Bless Faith
David ( davidscript ), I don`t know about your schedule, but that sounds like a good deal. What more could you ask for? I have one more question to ask you. So you think what Mr. Christian is doing is not smart. For himself or the lenders? I haven`t read in this post where any lenders who were due to receive their payment NOT receive their payment as planned. Not only that, you can see something of Mr. Christian`s generosity in that he sent out payments earlier than expected - I mean immediately sharing the profits with the lenders of the CELLCFund Secure Private Loan Program. Wow! I`ve worked for some employers who barely want to give you your paycheck when it`s due ( they go on vacation and forget to do payroll etc.)
So, what really are your concerns if what Mr. Christian is doing is not wrong? ( Oh sorry, I said I had one more question ---I guess another one popped up. ) I can`t say what Mr. Christian is doing is not smart when I don`t have all the pieces ( and not looking for them either ) I personally think Mr. Christian is a very intelligent man after all he has a very smart person who is doing business quite well--- Ms.Faith Sloan David Meyers QUOTE(fsloan @ Feb 11 2007, 09:51 PM) [snapback]3682575[/snapback] Thank you for the email, Stella. I sent you the details via email and thank you for your inquiry. Looking forward to doing business with you. God Bless Faith Sorry, Stella. I believe that I have yet to receive your email. Send to support @ cellcfund . com Jan, hope you received the email. I just received your PM. Thank you both and looking forward to doing business with you soon as CELLCFund lenders. God Bless Faith Yes I did Faith and thank you for being so efficient!! I plan to be involved by tomorrow afternoon....what with you using ceptrust..maybe even in a big way tho daily...like maybe 50 a day or so..ok?? (*_~) got a few bills to be paid then may even increase it.. Jan May add this in another forum...if it is not there already..(Emc) They may invite you over there... QUOTE(sharewealth @ Feb 11 2007, 11:37 PM) [snapback]3682717[/snapback] David ( davidscript ), I don`t know about your schedule, but that sounds like a good deal. What more could you ask for? I have one more question to ask you. So you think what Mr. Christian is doing is not smart. For himself or the lenders? I haven`t read in this post where any lenders who were due to receive their payment NOT receive their payment as planned. Not only that, you can see something of Mr. Christian`s generosity in that he sent out payments earlier than expected - I mean immediately sharing the profits with the lenders of the CELLCFund Secure Private Loan Program. Wow! I`ve worked for some employers who barely want to give you your paycheck when it`s due ( they go on vacation and forget to do payroll etc.) So, what really are your concerns if what Mr. Christian is doing is not wrong? ( Oh sorry, I said I had one more question ---I guess another one popped up. ) I can`t say what Mr. Christian is doing is not smart when I don`t have all the pieces ( and not looking for them either ) I personally think Mr. Christian is a very intelligent man after all he has a very smart person who is doing business quite well--- Ms.Faith Sloan David Meyers Thank you David for your support. But since Manley Christian has extended the all expense paid trip for 30 days then, I say he has done more than he can to beginning a dialogue with davidscript. Thank you for the kudos re: myself. I am a successful business woman and strategic technologist but give all of that credit to the Lord who has blessed me with my gifts. I'd like to continue to have a quiet yet successful and responsive program here. So I would like to close this chapter in this conversation for now. Thank you again for becoming a lender and of course and as usual we hope to continue doing business with you in the future, David (sharewealth). God Bless Faith QUOTE(oakie06 @ Feb 12 2007, 12:03 AM) [snapback]3682777[/snapback] Yes I did Faith and thank you for being so efficient!! I plan to be involved by tomorrow afternoon....what with you using ceptrust..maybe even in a big way tho daily...like maybe 50 a day or so..ok?? (*_~) got a few bills to be paid then may even increase it.. Jan May add this in another forum...if it is not there already..(Emc) They may invite you over there... Jan thank you for your vote of confidence. As the liaison for CELLCFund, I try to answer any and all support email and PMs promptly. AFter all, without lenders such as yourself, there would be no CELLCFund but there will always be Car Rental Express as long as Mr. Christian continues his incorporated business. Since he is expanding right now, I see no reason to think otherwise. Looking forward to doing business with you, Jan and thank you again! God Bless Faith
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You`re welcome Faith. I agree. OK QUOTE(ImAWinner @ Feb 11 2007, 05:23 PM) [snapback]3682255[/snapback] You can't say that about me slappy, first off if you haven't noticed i put my money in the program 280 in fact. I wouldn't be surprised if that was more then what you put in here. Id be interested to hear manleys reasoning, but not enough to give a call cause i treat online stuff MORE OR LESS the same. Lol, I've reserved my spot here in case it went private prior to me being able to deposit much, much more in the very near future, as I have paydays from other private programs coming in very soon(even with that said, you only have slightly more that me at this point). Your post proves my point, thank you. You whine and complain about the legitamacy of CellCfund and then admit that you have no intentions of doing any real dd by contacting Mr. Christian. By the way, if you want to throw numbers around, I'm more than sure that I've got at least 5 times more invested in online investments than you, so don't even try to talk down to people based on their investment(by the end of the month, go check out the COF thread if you think I'm lying). And yes, I call it an investment because I don't play with ponzies like many, I'm in 5 programs currently all, with the exception of one, provides proof/or can provide proof of where the money is going and the one that can't has been around for 3 years now. I would suggest picking up the phone and making a call rather than trying to cause distrust and fear. If you would call and still have concerns, I would love if those concerns were posted for everyone to see and comment on as that would benefit many; but, with no call, obviously that can't happen.
slappy,
He did not mean anything by that so just let it go. people are free to say what they want and theirs no need to try and hurt someones feelings. He may not have as much invested as you or maybe more but it doesnt matter. I'm just happy to start to see others investing in this good program with us. So like faith has expressed theirs no need for controversy, she gets the anwsers. Have a good day. Flossie
Aaaargh, what a morning already. I am developing an application for Car Rental Express (yes, my profession is web-based technology and yes, I love this stuff), and this one block of logic is driving me insane.
Decided to take a break from it for 20 minutes or so. In any case, let us keep things low-key and mellow. I believe that we can put this particular conversation to bed and keep this area open for announcements, support and other administrative matters. All of you are indeed appreciated as lenders in CELLCFund. And those who are not, it is alright for them to read the happenings going on here and ask questions as they deem fit. One of the reasons why I am here is to take the good along with the bad ... the simple along with the most difficult. Again, any questions are welcome as they relate to CELLCFund and I will continue to do my best to get them answered. That is the best that I can do. I certainly hope that everyone has a beautiful morning. Mine can only get better because I just had a brainstorm about my tech challenge. My mind thinks about a million things even while I type. God Bless Faith
not a question here fsloan, just to congratulate you on your program and hope for continue success
QUOTE(tysin @ Feb 12 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]3684387[/snapback] not a question here fsloan, just to congratulate you on your program and hope for continue success Thank you tysin, stranger. Wishing you all the success in your endeavors. God Bless Faith QUOTE(buddbrand @ Jan 11 2007, 12:10 PM) [snapback]3508069[/snapback] Though even Warren Edward Buffett known as one of the most successful investors could only make profits 20% per one year, however, congratulations on your own program, i will take part in when i have egold to make enough profits here WELL SAID QUOTE(minnow @ Feb 12 2007, 10:28 AM) [snapback]3684832[/snapback] WELL SAID Hi to you too, minnow. We'll still be here. Just make sure you spend money that you can do without for 30 or 90-180 days. p.s. about Mr. Warren, Big shot investor, back in 2003 per this article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2999697.stm QUOTE Investment guru Warren Buffett has confirmed his legendary ability to back the right businesses by doubling his company's profits. His Berkshire Hathaway group made an operating profit of $1.7bn (£1.1bn) in the first three months of the year - more than twice the figure at the same time last year. We are not investing but by putting your loan into the business and turning a profit, we can get you 14% in 30 days or 50%+ in 90 days. God Bless Faith |