Can any computer expert here tells what are the methods to trace and catch those scammers? I can't tolerate scammers anymore!!

anything like this requires "hacking" which is ALOT worse than Scamming trust me .. It can be done ... The evidence could never stand in a court off law

Do you mean that there is no way of tracing those scammers? How about getting their ip address and trace their location and identity? Which authority should we report them to?

Yep i though you meant hacking into there systems..

Well you need to get there IP most hide behind a Proxy so realy it's near Impossible to track them

Does it mean that as long as we can get their ip we are able to identify them? E-gold will have ip address of each member. If e-gold is willing to reveal them, there should not be problem!! Am I right?

Well E-gold wont give out any detauks unless it's taken to court

And also Scammers use Proxy so they can appear from anywhere in the world one second and then another second be in another part

Completely agree with you. All we have to do right now is keep full attention before join or invest in any program. Scammers are all around and find their victims
Sometimes, to be scam is good, because we learn how the scammer work

It's sad but I don't think there is something we can do to stop the scammers. ... also if the admins are really going in jail, I don't think there will be hyip or atusoruf because even the good admins will be scared to launch because there are risk involved always.

So far is there any case been taken to court that e-gold has to reveal the identity of the scammer?

helpless now.......

why are you helpless?

Tracing IP address is useless IP's can be changed at random if needs be so the IP things is not reliable at all.

There is no method that can catch scammer:
- Trace IP -> it's easy to use proxy
- Trace Address -> It's easy to use fake address
- Contact e-gold -> egold only can block scammers account, not giving back your money

So The best way the catch scammer is don't invest on scammer's site , Wow but all hyip is will scam later, so the best way to cast scammer is not play HYIP

You are admin of another HYIP. Are you going to be another scammer?

why?

it is mentioned in the terms and conditions

because e-gold is a 100% anomynous service

sigh...

We have gained some experience in investment but not good enough in tracking those scammers. But we hope those "experts" can really share their opinions on how to capture those scammers!!

Contact the owner of the proxy as you would need to match to their logs for them to find out the connecting IP, which could in itself be a proxy.

It's not so hard to track them, but I don't think many members would take action, maybe just some calls, but that's it.

I would recommend to use tracert command in cmd when you join a new program, then going to http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/city.ch?ip= and http://www.whoislookup.ie/whois.php to learn more.

Good luck and happy hunting.

You wont be scammed if you choose the right program and knows how to play the game.

Its a matter of choice.

Of course everyone knows how not to get scammed, but very few will actually stop playing HYIP.

Some have gone to jail, they did a crack down in New Zealand a while back and caught like 40 people running pronzis (offline and online). So some of the large ones would get done but when they do there life is almost over as it can be a very long jail sentence.


There are many things you can do, but the things that have been proven to work best are not legal and you need a large investment for it to be worth your while.


Not all HYIP, only 99.999 but there is the odd few out there that make real investments. The internet scams are little compared to some of the huge offline scams some people run, so this market sort of gets ignored by the people that could do something to fix it can lock these scammers up (unless your making real investments you would be one of them).


You reckon? Something will change in this HYIP world soon, it could be for good or worst but there is bound to be something that will stop people from investing or have everyone investing but these HYIP that are paying huge returns will be gone and wont come back as things will lead into only investing in places that make real investments.


They can take the same step as e-gold does and tell you to take them to court to get that information and i would imagine most wont even keep logs. Contacting there hosting company can work, if they know about something illegal happening on there servers they can be held responsible so most hosts will give you the information you need and close there site down.

Bollocks to all of that, if you want to stop scammers and aespecially
vigalanties types.

You need strong robust severs based in Russia. Nothing short of a
full blown DDOS will put them off the air and keep them off the air.

Persistent Emails sent to the hosting company warning them of the
delinquent clients activities and a warning period of 6 hours to cancel
their account. If no appropriate responce, an initiated feed line burst of
at least 120 to 150 zombie units.

Once the ISP gets the idea that their client is not worth tying up their
tech support for days they usually pull the pin on the offending account.

If not more aggressive means can be employed to ensure that the hosted
site cannot function under congested traffic conditions.

The thing is this does tie up massive amounts bandwidth and server
resources to initialize. Usually not worth it in 95% of most cases.

M

That would only work with sites on cheap hosting, DDos attacks are not that hard to counter for large sites or hosts that know how to deal with large amounts of traffic.

So your saying everything said in this thread is bollocks? Would you mind pointing out what is bollocks, i know everything i said was fact and not fiction, so i would love to know what you think it is was talking crap about.

e-gold helped me WITHOUT going to court.
just be persistent with them
They contacted the site that did not provide
me with what I paid for. Then they
shut them down. THEN the site contacted
me, refunded me the money to get their
business back with e gold.

Wasnt being personal.

I meant bollocks in relation to trying to trace them. I only see limited results from
that even when a reward or bounty is posted.

In a majority of cases HYIPs run on cheap hosting sites.

M

Very sorry i defiantly took that with the wrong meaning.

Yes you are right the internet makes it very easy to hide and i don't see that ever changing unfortunately.

The beauty of possiblity thinking is there is alot more possiblities than meets the eye.

I think if we really trace the ip, it is not impossible to locate them