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~fishie~
I am just curious as to why it is ok to bash some members and not others...

it is ok to bash KiTTeN but not GPT
it is ok to bash Nothinggirl but not GPT
it is ok to call me a liar without decent proof, but when we point a
person who has multiple ID's we need proof.....
isn't a multiple Id and a liar the same thing?

I guess I just need to understand? Call me blonde but I don't get it.
gonsaigon
QUOTE(~fishie~ @ Jan 6 2007, 12:20 PM) [snapback]3474444[/snapback]

I am just curious as to why it is ok to bash some members and not others...

it is ok to bash KiTTeN but not GPT
it is ok to bash Nothinggirl but not GPT
it is ok to call me a liar without decent proof, but when we point a
person who has multiple ID's we need proof.....
isn't a multiple Id and a liar the same thing?

I guess I just need to understand? Call me blonde but I don't get it.



Props to you fishie, for having the integrity and courage to say what you think.

Pete
ASFx
It is not ok to "bash" other members. MMG is not here for everyone to fight with each other. MMG is here to discuss ways to make money online. If you see someone "bashing" another member, it would be considered a personal attack and against our rules so please report it. If someone called you a name and it was unfounded, please report it. Remember that assumptions do not help anyone here, and you can always ask us if you have any questions.
~fishie~
QUOTE(gonsaigon @ Jan 5 2007, 08:26 PM) [snapback]3474458[/snapback]

Props to you fishie, for having the integrity and courage to say what you think.

Pete


Thanks Pete.
I guess I feel the only way to get answers is to ask.
Get Paid To :)
I never called you liar or anything. if you show me a link
and not a dream, I will be very surprised.


I said I am nobody who was here before.
nothing to do with your blond. I guess I am blonder than you.
and this is the all truth and nothing but the truth.


can't you se I am different?
~fishie~
QUOTE(ASFx @ Jan 5 2007, 08:33 PM) [snapback]3474490[/snapback]

It is not ok to "bash" other members. MMG is not here for everyone to fight with each other. MMG is here to discuss ways to make money online. If you see someone "bashing" another member, it would be considered a personal attack and against our rules so please report it. If someone called you a name and it was unfounded, please report it. Remember that assumptions do not help anyone here, and you can always ask us if you have any questions.


ok, but still the question remains....why one and not the other?
And how are these things discussing ways to make money?

For example:
alot of people have been noticing a bit of spam in the threads lately from an
un-named member and nothing has really been done about it. Yet, when
others have come and posted spam about thier upcomming hyip/surf/mlm/whatever
it has been edited or better yet, deleted.

also, have noticed entire posts disappearing lately when the post was a bit on the
bashing side of things and yet, a new member posted things about other members
and that thread was only closed and left.

I do understand that this is a very large forum and it is difficult to watch every
move that members make, but I still don't get it. I am trying to see the fairness
in what is removed vs closed. I am certainly not bashing the way you run your forum,
but only trying to figure out the difference.

QUOTE(Get Paid To :) @ Jan 5 2007, 08:52 PM) [snapback]3474552[/snapback]

I never called you liar or anything. if you show me a link
and not a dream, I will be very surprised.
I said I am nobody who was here before.
nothing to do with your blond. I guess I am blonder than you.
and this is the all truth and nothing but the truth.
can't you se I am different?


Oh yes, I can see you are different alright.
Everything is not about you, dear.

I am only using an example to show my point.
Get Paid To :)
QUOTE(~fishie~ @ Jan 6 2007, 04:58 AM) [snapback]3474559[/snapback]

I am only using an example to show my point.

I am the quarry. the person who is the aim of your attack and the attack
of your friends.

I just replied and I RECEIVED 20% WARNING, NOT YOU,

THAT WAS THE UNFAIRNESS.
~fishie~
QUOTE(Get Paid To :) @ Jan 5 2007, 09:10 PM) [snapback]3474607[/snapback]

I am the quarry. the person who is the aim of your attack and the attack
of your friends.

I just replied and I RECEIVED 20% WARNING, NOT YOU,

THAT WAS THE UNFAIRNESS.


I am very sorry that , that happened to you sweetheart,
but this is not an attack of anyone.

I am only asking a question....ok, maybe 2 but they are on the same subject/topic.
Get Paid To :)
[edit]SPAM[/edit]
ASFx
QUOTE
alot of people have been noticing a bit of spam in the threads lately from an
un-named member and nothing has really been done about it. Yet, when
others have come and posted spam about thier upcomming hyip/surf/mlm/whatever
it has been edited or better yet, deleted.


Actually the person you are referring to has already been warned. We always have to treat everyone fairly and everyone is able to receive warnings for breaking our rules before we ban them with a few exceptions such as extreme spammers, scammers, or people with multiple accounts that get banned right away.

QUOTE
also, have noticed entire posts disappearing lately when the post was a bit on the
bashing side of things and yet, a new member posted things about other members
and that thread was only closed and left.


Usually the only reasons why posts are deleted is if theyre duplucates, spam, personal attacks, or some other form of post that breaks our rules. Also remember sometimes topics are moved or merged as needed for organization purposes. We have a lot of moderators so one may choose to close the topic while another may choose to delete it. I usually prefer the deletion method because a lot of closed topics can make a mess sometimes.

QUOTE
I do understand that this is a very large forum and it is difficult to watch every
move that members make, but I still don't get it. I am trying to see the fairness
in what is removed vs closed. I am certainly not bashing the way you run your forum,
but only trying to figure out the difference.
Oh yes, I can see you are different alright.
Everything is not about you, dear.


I appreciate your comments and anything that causes us to think about the way we run MMG is a good thing. MMG is always improving because of members like you who make suggestions and question the way we do things.
~fishie~
QUOTE(ASFx @ Jan 5 2007, 09:24 PM) [snapback]3474670[/snapback]

Actually the person you are referring to has already been warned. We always have to treat everyone fairly and everyone is able to receive warnings for breaking our rules before we ban them with a few exceptions such as extreme spammers, scammers, or people with multiple accounts that get banned right away.
Usually the only reasons why posts are deleted is if theyre duplucates, spam, personal attacks, or some other form of post that breaks our rules. Also remember sometimes topics are moved or merged as needed for organization purposes. We have a lot of moderators so one may choose to close the topic while another may choose to delete it. I usually prefer the deletion method because a lot of closed topics can make a mess sometimes.
I appreciate your comments and anything that causes us to think about the way we run MMG is a good thing. MMG is always improving because of members like you who make suggestions and question the way we do things.


Thank You ASFx! That is a Very good reply smile.gif
Is calling someone a liar a personal attack? and if so, should it not have been deleted?

and if someone were entering several different threads to promote say perhaps
a blog or a hyip, should it not also be considered spam and deleted?
Get Paid To :)
If a member offer a way or ways to make money by sport divination
and show results like I do in my blog
you better consider her invitation as a free way for you to create wealth.

isn't it a better way to see a potential?


I AM SORRY FOR YOUR FRIEND WHO BEEN BANNED FOR A REASON.

But what do you want from me.

Did I ban her.

Love

Maria
~fishie~
QUOTE(Get Paid To :) @ Jan 5 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]3474722[/snapback]

If a member offer a way or ways to make money by sport divination
and show results like I do in my blog
you better consider her invitation as a free way for you to create wealth.

isn't it a better way to see a potential?
I AM SORRY FOR YOUR FRIEND WHO BEEN BANNED FOR A REASON.

But what do you want from me.

Did I ban her.

Love

Maria



huh? what friend got banned ? post-36326-1110185726.gif
Get Paid To :)
QUOTE(~fishie~ @ Jan 6 2007, 05:41 AM) [snapback]3474731[/snapback]

huh? what friend got banned ? post-36326-1110185726.gif

if you asking only about Nothinggirl I beg your pardon.
from reading the many past posts, I saw a lot.

but who counts?

just be happy. cheer12.gif
Yippee
QUOTE(Get Paid To :) @ Jan 5 2007, 09:38 PM) [snapback]3474722[/snapback]

If a member offer a way or ways to make money by sport divination
and show results like I do in my blog
you better consider her invitation as a free way for you to create wealth.

isn't it a better way to see a potential?
I AM SORRY FOR YOUR FRIEND WHO BEEN BANNED FOR A REASON.

But what do you want from me.

Did I ban her.

Love

Maria



You CANNOT post and make offers to MMG members to view your blog, or invite them to any other of your programs or schemes. This is considered SPAM and you will receive a warning for doing this. You can have a link in your signature, but you cannot in any way direct members to your link.

See MMG RULE #3 Do not "post hijack" by placing your referral link in any threads other than ones you have created. There are no "cashback offers" allowed in the program threads, if you must make an offer it belongs in the benefactor section. Also, do not create posts specifically for the purpose of asking people to click on your signature, such as "look at my signature" or "join under me" or something similar in the program threads.

Also, I really believe that ~fishie~ is not talking to you or about you. I'm sorry you are so confused.
Get Paid To :)
well you have you, nothinggirl, Hula in your own forum.
Yippee
QUOTE(Get Paid To :) @ Jan 5 2007, 09:51 PM) [snapback]3474766[/snapback]

In the next 10 days here I am only posting in my blog.
I am making it known in my signature.

I suggest you stop making posts at MMG about your blog.
Hula
Thanks so much, Yippee! thumbup(1).gif

girl_devil.gif Sometimes ya just gotta tell it like it is. wink.gif

I miss the smackdown. Best I can offer is a smirkdown. thumbdown.gif
~fishie~
I appreciate your posts as well, Yippeefish!

thanks sweets.

Hi Hulahoops wave.gif

QUOTE(Get Paid To :) @ Jan 5 2007, 09:48 PM) [snapback]3474753[/snapback]

if you asking only about Nothinggirl I beg your pardon.
from reading the many past posts, I saw a lot.

but who counts?

just be happy. cheer12.gif


I am sorry sweetie, but this is this not only about you
specifically, it is not about Nothinggirl either.
megaplex
So my she's driving me mad thread got closed because why again?

It was a mild mannered point to the Mods that we the members can
with respect bring other members action to attention.

Like I said scammers threads still remain open in the closed section? post-36326-1110185726.gif
Yippee
QUOTE(megaplex @ Jan 5 2007, 10:16 PM) [snapback]3474877[/snapback]

So my she's driving me mad thread got closed because why again?

It was a mild mannered point to the Mods that we the members can
with respect bring other members action to attention.

Like I said scammers threads still remain open in the closed section? post-36326-1110185726.gif

If you want to respectfully bring something to the mods attention, the best way to accomplish this is by using the report button.
~fishie~
You do have a good point there Mega....


Anyway, I must admit at this point, looking back maybe I
should have used the report button when I felt it was a case of
personal attack. Unfortunately, I did not think to use it at the time. I guess
I thought others would view it as the same, but alas the damage has
been done, the thread is closed but still visible for the people who did the
bashing to point to with bragging rights.
ASFx
QUOTE(~fishie~ @ Jan 5 2007, 07:30 PM) [snapback]3474688[/snapback]

Thank You ASFx! That is a Very good reply smile.gif
Is calling someone a liar a personal attack? and if so, should it not have been deleted?

and if someone were entering several different threads to promote say perhaps
a blog or a hyip, should it not also be considered spam and deleted?


It's very hard for us to generalize comments and say that if you call someone a liar, it is a personal attack 100% of the time. Sometimes people may be joking, etc. so the best way to handle it it to just report it to us and we will investigate each issue individually and make a decision based on the contents of the person's post.

Yes if someone is promoting their blog or hyip in different threads, that would fall under the spamming/hijacking category and they should be reported to us. smile.gif
~fishie~
Thank you very much for your time and consideration of my
"generalized" questions and request.
I appreciate your willingness to respond to my inquiries.
I also appreciate your moderator with a heart who has taken care of my "report"

forgive me for not pushing the button earlier when I felt the
attack happened, I guess I was a tad bit shocked at the time.

Basically, the answer to each of my questions is only a matter of how many
times the report button has been used, correct?

Well then, As far as the other issue: Please be ready for lots of reports rofl4.gif ninja.gif

right mega? *winks*

Get Paid To :)
QUOTE(~fishie~ @ Jan 6 2007, 06:07 AM) [snapback]3474796[/snapback]

I am sorry sweetie, but this is this not only about you
specifically, it is not about Nothinggirl either.

fine. if it's not personal, I might join your home forum it's name .


it's too quite there with you and hula alone.
megaplex
QUOTE(Yippee @ Jan 6 2007, 01:19 PM) [snapback]3474896[/snapback]

If you want to respectfully bring something to the mods attention, the best way to accomplish this is by using the report button.

Orrr come on guys, you must of had 10 to a dozen reports on that one.

Tried that didnt work so I went and started a fun page that no one minded
too much, even the the target wuz posting in there and enjoying it posting
whopping 1800 x 1600 pic which is still there.

Get Paid To :)
and nothinggirl, of course....
megaplex
QUOTE(megaplex @ Jan 6 2007, 02:21 PM) [snapback]3475158[/snapback]

Orrr come on guys, you must of had 10 to a dozen reports on that one.

Tried that didnt work so I went and started a fun page that no one minded
too much, even the the target wuz posting in there and enjoying it posting
whopping 1800 x 1600 pic which is still there.

If we cant laugh and take the piss out of each other whats the place come too?
Get Paid To :)
You know why you need MMG although you have your own forum with your own friends?

the answer is that here you have more than friends.

you have people with different views.

you need to listen to them sometimes. that's why you here, even if some of them are
deserve a censored2.gif
enlightenedmind
QUOTE(Get Paid To :) @ Jan 5 2007, 11:22 PM) [snapback]3475161[/snapback]

and nothinggirl, of course....

rofl4.gif rofl4.gif The funny thing is...since I've had a couple of drinks your posts actually make sense. NOT> annoyed.gif
megaplex
QUOTE(enlightenedmind @ Jan 6 2007, 02:25 PM) [snapback]3475185[/snapback]

rofl4.gif rofl4.gif The funny thing is...since I've had a couple of drinks your posts actually make sense. NOT> annoyed.gif

They make more sense on crack. rofl4.gif

Drinks, what's on the menu ? I'll buy myself one.
enlightenedmind
QUOTE(megaplex @ Jan 5 2007, 11:28 PM) [snapback]3475195[/snapback]

They make more sense on crack. rofl4.gif

Drinks, what's on the menu ? I'll buy myself one.

Long Island Iced Tea...
Get Paid To :)
as long as you spell Maria right, all is accepted.

QUOTE(enlightenedmind @ Jan 6 2007, 07:25 AM) [snapback]3475185[/snapback]

rofl4.gif rofl4.gif The funny thing is...since I've had a couple of drinks your posts actually make sense. NOT> annoyed.gif

clapping7.gif
~fishie~
Anywhooooo~
Back to the subject at hand......sorry to go MIA for so long.

Most of my questions have been answered and taken care of, but
still there remains one issue I am still unsure of and Megaplex has also
raised this question as well....

why when he posted what he posted was it deleted and yet
when a "basher" arrived on the scene and posted against an
"inactive" mmg member was it not deleted?

Or better yet as Mega pointed out...
why are his posts deleted and threads closed while scammers threads and posts remain?

If you are to close threads, why aren't scammers threads also closed?
Or if you are to delete threads, why aren't "others" deleted as well?

QUOTE(Get Paid To :) @ Jan 5 2007, 11:25 PM) [snapback]3475183[/snapback]

You know why you need MMG although you have your own forum with your own friends?

the answer is that here you have more than friends.

you have people with different views.

you need to listen to them sometimes. that's why you here, even if some of them are
deserve a censored2.gif


EXCUSE ME?
I thought you were no longer posting for 10 days except at YOUR home?

First of all: Umm... I do not OWN that forum, I work there.
Yes, I have a lot of friends, just like many other people,
I have work friends and I have friends outside work. Many of them
frequent both places.

Secondly: Am I not allowed to post here anymore because I have a job?
I am not a post ho' who feels the need to spread my "different views" ~ thank you.
But when I have an issue, I ask questions. Do I not have that right?



QUOTE(enlightenedmind @ Jan 5 2007, 11:25 PM) [snapback]3475185[/snapback]

rofl4.gif rofl4.gif The funny thing is...since I've had a couple of drinks your posts actually make sense. NOT> annoyed.gif


Hi ya EM wave.gif

rofl4.gif rofl4.gif rofl4.gif
Get Paid To :)


QUOTE
Secondly: Am I not allowed to post here anymore because I have a job?


IPB Image

so small ninja.gif

QUOTE(megaplex @ Jan 6 2007, 07:24 AM) [snapback]3475173[/snapback]

If we cant laugh and take the piss out of each other whats the place come too?

money makeing forum, maybe? rolleyes.gif
~fishie~
and this has WHAT to do with the topic at hand?

Seriously, I am attempting to get a few answers to questions,
that is why this is in the "ASK FOR HELP" section.

This is not General chat, nor is it Get paid To's thread to boost post count.

I would seriously appreciate your consideration for others.
thank you.
Ragnafrak
Hi guys,

I'm pretty sure that I'm the one responsible for the instances of deleted post you're referring to. As Asfx said earlier, some mods close threads, some mods delete; I'm more of the deletion-type of moderator. At the time a report came in, I read a few pages and made the solo-decision that in my view of MMG's rules several posts had crossed the line. I could have edited each post individually, but to save time I elected to just delete them in and post in the thread instead. Unfortunately it wasn't until just after I did this that I got in touch with the admin on the subject and he gave me a stern cautioning on the ramifications of the type of moderation I'd performed.

In short, I realize now that those posts most likely could have gone without deletion and stayed with the rest of the thread prior to be closed. I take responsibility for the result and wish that any frustration or confusion caused my by action be directed at me and my inexperience rather than at MMG's policy as a whole and for us all to move on. I'm much more careful now, but I'm still learning.

Thanks-
~fishie~


QUOTE(Ragnafrak @ Jan 6 2007, 09:49 AM) [snapback]3477902[/snapback]

Hi guys,

I'm pretty sure that I'm the one responsible for the instances of deleted post you're referring to. As Asfx said earlier, some mods close threads, some mods delete; I'm more of the deletion-type of moderator. At the time a report came in, I read a few pages and made the solo-decision that in my view of MMG's rules several posts had crossed the line. I could have edited each post individually, but to save time I elected to just delete them in and post in the thread instead. Unfortunately it wasn't until just after I did this that I got in touch with the admin on the subject and he gave me a stern cautioning on the ramifications of the type of moderation I'd performed.

In short, I realize now that those posts most likely could have gone without deletion and stayed with the rest of the thread prior to be closed. I take responsibility for the result and wish that any frustration or confusion caused my by action be directed at me and my inexperience rather than at MMG's policy as a whole and for us all to move on. I'm much more careful now, but I'm still learning.

Thanks-


Oh Honey!
It's alright, Thank you for your explaination and for helping me to understand. I appreciate your willingness to offer an explaination, it takes guts to be yourself on a public forum and I am grateful.

Nice to meet you Ragnafrak smile.gif
Get Paid To :)

fishie Honey!
my point is: you make your own forum the way you are
why decrease this one to your extra small size
but not make yours this free chat able.

I recall you start this topicon chat section.

you are not asking for help.

you want MMG in your forum shape, but can't bring your own to be readable
by more than the few who are here too.

why?
you know best.
Ragnafrak
Actually I think that the Ask for Help forum is a good place for this thread. The original poster is attempting to have questions asked by the MMG staff and as far as I can tell has been largely successful in doing so.

Further, Please do not try to goad replies out of other members with posts meant to belittle them.
Get Paid To :)
Cry like a cat: mew mew mew....

she, not me.

I am making everyone bigger and stronger here.
Ragnafrak
To me, you appear to be patronizing people. I can only caution you that offending people will be inevitable if you continue to post in the manner that you have been.

If your post would not contribute constructively towards the topic at hand in a thread, please reconsider posting it as it may be unnecessary.
Get Paid To :)
this is only first impression.
I can get you a list of 38 members whom I help a lot
in the last 2 months.

but if one cross my path with bad intention, I am not helpless like most girls.

respect!

and lot of love

Maria
~fishie~
GTP

Please.
I am not whining nor crying. I was simply asking questions which
have now been fully answered by the MMG staff and I am sincerely
appreciative of all they do. This thread is not to pimp a hyip/blog/program/forum
or anything else of that matter. Again, I have not mentioned my place of
employment~ YOU have! I try to abide by MMG's rules regarding that~besides
everything has it's proper place, including this thread and the people discussing
the issue at hand.

I am NOT by any means trying to belittle or bring down the staff
here at MMG. Most of them know me very well and also know that
I am not a trouble maker by nature and typically am here to help
when needed, however I do tend to ask a lot of questions and I
also tend to voice my opinions. Sometimes those opinions are not
necessarily the voice of the majority. Trust me sweets, most of the
staff here get along with me very well.

As for what you are doing in this thread is beyond me.

MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED FULLY AND THERE IS NO NEED FOR THIS TO CONTINUE, UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF YOURSELF.
Yippee
Since the original questions have been answered, there is no reason to keep this thread open.
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