Well there is no additional news from what is already on this forum.
You can refer to the receiver's website for updates.
The address is below.
http://www.tlennonfor12dailypro.com/
Full Version: 12dailypro - 12dailypro.com
MoneyMakerGroup > HYIPs, Autosurfs, & Other High-Risk Opportunities > *NEW* PTS and PTA > Closed, Inactive & Offline PTA & PTS Programs
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The worst thing for me is that I upgraded from pendings to e-gold & I've 3 pending payouts which I can't get refunds nor can I do a chargeback. Just lost them all.
i m still waiting to see what would the SEC would do
i hope they would return us our money bak i wish QUOTE(growmillions.com @ Apr 11 2006, 10:48 PM) [snapback]1856477[/snapback] To ScamPay, hackers, and scammers:  hey ! nice to see my BIG BRO in action  i'm so proud of him
Update by Charis at her site
http://www.charisjohnson.com/ Previous: Looking Forward - A New Venture Setting the Personal Record Straight by Charis on Thu 13 Apr 2006 12:59 PM EDT | Permanent Link I would personally like to set a few things straight. I have read many speculations, falsehoods and misunderstandings about my personal financial situation. I want to take this time to set the record straight. I will not discuss any actions regarding my former company. But I will address personal matters. The Falsehood: I personally take 1.9 million of money that belonged to other people for personal use? The Facts: Anyone that ever signed up for a Stormpay at any time was taken to a signup page that required them to signup for an account with their personal name. There was no option to create a merchant account. Then when you entered that account there was another page that allowed you to add and link bank accounts to that personal account. There was a clear warning that stated that you could only link bank accounts that matched the name on the account. StormPay at no time during my personal association with them had a merchant account option. Thus any funds withdrawn would be withdrawn to a personal account. From that personal account one could then transfer funds as needed into a business account, pay for business expenses, or transfer money to other payment processors for instance. 1.9 million was all the money that I personally withdrew from StormPay throughout my entire personal relationship with them, which began in May of 2005. Bank documentation proves that almost 1.4 million dollars of that was transferred into another payment processor and server files prove that that money was used to pay members of my former company. Bank documentation also proves that the remainder of the funds were used for rent, operational, salary, and technology expenses associated with my former company, which employed 12 people. If you break that down, its a miniscule pitance compared to the amount of money that members of my former company earned over the course of 9 months. The Falsehood: I am getting $5000 a month from the SEC and my attorney is getting $10,000 a month from the SEC which is coming from money intended for refunds. The Truth: The $5000 a month I am received is coming directly from my own personal bank accounts which were frozen. This money includes the life savings of myself and my husband as well as salary he received from his employer which had nothing to do with my former company. So we are not being given anybody's money but our own. And my attorney has not received a dime from the SEC and won't unless another party sees fit to give up the money they continue to hold. As well, the $10,000 is meant to be a one time payment if and when it occurs, not a monthly payment. These payments only come at all because I was never legally charged with any wrong doing and I formally neither admitted nor denied any of the allegations in the original complaint. The Falsehood: I have people's money and can get them their refunds. The Truth: The SEC has taken control of all assets of my former company. I have been completely and totally cooperative and have given the SEC everything they have asked for. There was a company that said they froze funds of my former company so they could be given as refunds. The question people need to be asking is if this company has been as cooperative as I have and if they have indeed turned over these funds as they claimed they were going to. I personally chose the path that I did so that any money available would be immediately deemed to be monies belonging to the members of my former company and could be gotten from that payment processor and be refunded. At that moment, I ceased to have any control over how and if that will occur nor do I know what the company that froze the funds has done since with the money they claimed to have in their posession. Those are the personal facts. Posted to: Main Page Reflections QUOTE(332210 @ Apr 14 2006, 04:55 AM) [snapback]1879323[/snapback] is there any hope that stormpay will give my stolen money Stormpay has changed their terms, it's not the same payment processor as before. I wonder how can they get away with that - but as we can see everything is possible  .Few of my friends have lost a lot of money because of stormpay, I've lost couple of hundreds. It would be great to get this money back but it won't happen.
Edited: spam
I contacted 1 of my CC company "Chase" in Feb. about 1 1/2 weeks after the stormpiss freeze pertaining to chargebacks and sent them as much documents, evidence, etc and that was that. Wednesday evening 4/12/06 I checked my email and had 6 separate stormpay chargeback emails..totalling just over $8300!!!!!!!!!!! talk about 1 happy camper!! I also have 1500 in chargebacks from Bank of America which they did back in February right off the bat..but last week they needed all documents for proof as they must now be butting heads with stormpay in court.. They sent me all the documents stormpay had sent them.. It's funny my $9800 pendings from 12dailypro that they froze wasn't included in there paperwork, and/or my $600 in my SP account which they flat out stold when they did their own chargeback thing. . So I think I'll win hands down on that one too. I can sleep better at night now  What comes around goes around..sometimes it just takes time QUOTE(kingfish @ Apr 14 2006, 11:07 AM) [snapback]1880209[/snapback] I contacted 1 of my CC company "Chase" in Feb. about 1 1/2 weeks after the stormpiss freeze pertaining to chargebacks and sent them as much documents, evidence, etc and that was that. Wednesday evening 4/12/06 I checked my email and had 6 separate stormpay chargeback emails..totalling just over $8300!!!!!!!!!!! talk about 1 happy camper!! I also have 1500 in chargebacks from Bank of America which they did back in February right off the bat..but last week they needed all documents for proof as they must now be butting heads with stormpay in court.. They sent me all the documents stormpay had sent them.. It's funny my $9800 pendings from 12dailypro that they froze wasn't included in there paperwork, and/or my $600 in my SP account which they flat out stold when they did their own chargeback thing. . So I think I'll win hands down on that one too. I can sleep better at night now What comes around goes around..sometimes it just takes time I performed a successful chargeback with my cc in February, but today I received notice from my cc that Stormpay is now denying the chargeback. I cannot read all the crap that SP sent to my cc, which my cc forwarded to me. My cc wants me to send more info in support of my chargeback that was already approved. What do I send them? And, can SP really recharge my cc for the chargeback that I initiated?? I thought this was all over but now I'm afraid that SP is still going to get this money back... Anybody else run into this??? QUOTE(332210 @ Apr 14 2006, 08:55 PM) [snapback]1879323[/snapback] is there any hope that stormpay will give my stolen money Very unlikely my friend....I bet right now SCAMPAY & SEC is somewhere in the Bahamas spending all of our money!!!  
QUOTE(MissKitty @ Apr 14 2006, 12:30 PM) [snapback]1880800[/snapback] I performed a successful chargeback with my cc in February, but today I received notice from my cc that Stormpay is now denying the chargeback. I cannot read all the crap that SP sent to my cc, which my cc forwarded to me. My cc wants me to send more info in support of my chargeback that was already approved. What do I send them? And, can SP really recharge my cc for the chargeback that I initiated?? I thought this was all over but now I'm afraid that SP is still going to get this money back... Anybody else run into this??? As you read abut my chargebacks, Chase didnt do any chargebacks till just a couple days ago(it's been about 60 days since I sent them my info) so I think it's a done deal there. As for Bank of america, they did my chargeback in feb the same day I called them and said when things came up they would need info on stormpay..If my info doesnt pan out, they will renig on the chargeback. Stormpay sent them stuff, only the stuff they wanted my CC company to see..so send them everything you have.. especially with 12dailypro(froze pending accounts) That'll convince them right there.. and everything else you have..good luck QUOTE(pribilla34 @ Apr 14 2006, 02:35 PM) [snapback]1881696[/snapback] hmm i really don't think you're allowed to post your thread link on other popular threads... heck you can't even get the artist of your signature right. eminem didn't say that ever. in fact, those were lyrics in a Limp Bizkit song, who long have been battling with eminem over some bull****.  That thread is already in the scam section after only 1 day! I went to 12dailypro.com and it still says: QUOTE Site Temporarily Unavailable Sorry, the site you requested is currently unavailable. It will be available as soon as possible. Please try again later. I really don't think so.. 
QUOTE(growmillions.com @ Apr 15 2006, 09:36 AM) [snapback]1888655[/snapback] That thread is already in the scam section after only 1 day! I went to 12dailypro.com and it still says: I really don't think so.. Anyone really get refund ? Anyone know her contact email address ?
All the funds of 12dailypro.com's is now in the hands of a receiver after court proceedings involving the SEC.
We have to wait on word from the receiver about refunds.
I've gotten no refund yet. I'll let everyone know if I actually do, but I'm not holding my breath.
dont expect a penny back
QUOTE(nihakedha @ Apr 16 2006, 02:19 AM) [snapback]1892819[/snapback] Anyone really get refund ? Anyone know her contact email address ? This (receiver) Has Your Money...Here: http://www.tlennonfor12dailypro.com/ this is a private lawyer, who does Not work for the US government.. he took over 12dp by the court order... If you look at the S.E.C. track record, Other good paying programs I was in, that S.E.C. took over, never paid the thousands of $ owed... The receiver appointed will TAKE all $ from 12dp, scumpay, EMO ... & any $ he can find that was with 12dp, He will then keep...No less than 45% for his fees, any money left.. will be only paid, if you never received a payout, any payouts you received from 12dp, all the way back to the begining of 12dp will be subtracted from any refund..  QUOTE(anagoge @ Apr 17 2006, 11:28 AM) [snapback]1899198[/snapback] This (receiver) Has Your Money...Here: http://www.tlennonfor12dailypro.com/ this is a private lawyer, who does Not work for the US government.. he took over 12dp by the court order... If you look at the S.E.C. track record, Other good paying programs I was in, that S.E.C. took over, never paid the thousands of $ owed... The receiver appointed will TAKE all $ from 12dp, scumpay, EMO ... & any $ he can find that was with 12dp, He will then keep...No less than 45% for his fees, any money left.. will be only paid, if you never received a payout, any payouts you received from 12dp, all the way back to the begining of 12dp will be subtracted from any refund.. where did you get the info of 45%?
usually, if it sounds too good, then it is!!
QUOTE(mmonet @ Apr 14 2006, 06:03 AM) [snapback]1879778[/snapback] Edited: spam My cc account still shows the chargeback I asked for as pending. What info did you send your cc company as mine is asking for more? I always saved every transaction that was done with SP. Thanks in advance for your help!
Something that I thought was funny...
I wanted to take a look at how popular ABC4 has been since 12DP is over now. Just take a look below.  I'm sure they wish 12DP was back! QUOTE(dmday1 @ Apr 17 2006, 10:48 AM) [snapback]1903933[/snapback] Something that I thought was funny... I wanted to take a look at how popular ABC4 has been since 12DP is over now. Just take a look below. I'm sure they wish 12DP was back! so do we , this was the only site one could feel safe wid their money, juss see some of the new surfs that have come now-a-daz 
QUOTE(ItsMik @ Apr 14 2006, 03:25 AM) [snapback]1878827[/snapback] Update by Charis at her site http://www.charisjohnson.com/ Previous: Looking Forward - A New Venture Setting the Personal Record Straight by Charis on Thu 13 Apr 2006 12:59 PM EDT | Permanent Link I would personally like to set a few things straight. I have read many speculations, falsehoods and misunderstandings about my personal financial situation. I want to take this time to set the record straight. I will not discuss any actions regarding my former company. But I will address personal matters. The Falsehood: I personally take 1.9 million of money that belonged to other people for personal use? The Facts: Anyone that ever signed up for a Stormpay at any time was taken to a signup page that required them to signup for an account with their personal name. There was no option to create a merchant account. Then when you entered that account there was another page that allowed you to add and link bank accounts to that personal account. There was a clear warning that stated that you could only link bank accounts that matched the name on the account. StormPay at no time during my personal association with them had a merchant account option. Thus any funds withdrawn would be withdrawn to a personal account. From that personal account one could then transfer funds as needed into a business account, pay for business expenses, or transfer money to other payment processors for instance. 1.9 million was all the money that I personally withdrew from StormPay throughout my entire personal relationship with them, which began in May of 2005. Bank documentation proves that almost 1.4 million dollars of that was transferred into another payment processor and server files prove that that money was used to pay members of my former company. Bank documentation also proves that the remainder of the funds were used for rent, operational, salary, and technology expenses associated with my former company, which employed 12 people. If you break that down, its a miniscule pitance compared to the amount of money that members of my former company earned over the course of 9 months. The Falsehood: I am getting $5000 a month from the SEC and my attorney is getting $10,000 a month from the SEC which is coming from money intended for refunds. The Truth: The $5000 a month I am received is coming directly from my own personal bank accounts which were frozen. This money includes the life savings of myself and my husband as well as salary he received from his employer which had nothing to do with my former company. So we are not being given anybody's money but our own. And my attorney has not received a dime from the SEC and won't unless another party sees fit to give up the money they continue to hold. As well, the $10,000 is meant to be a one time payment if and when it occurs, not a monthly payment. These payments only come at all because I was never legally charged with any wrong doing and I formally neither admitted nor denied any of the allegations in the original complaint. The Falsehood: I have people's money and can get them their refunds. The Truth: The SEC has taken control of all assets of my former company. I have been completely and totally cooperative and have given the SEC everything they have asked for. There was a company that said they froze funds of my former company so they could be given as refunds. The question people need to be asking is if this company has been as cooperative as I have and if they have indeed turned over these funds as they claimed they were going to. I personally chose the path that I did so that any money available would be immediately deemed to be monies belonging to the members of my former company and could be gotten from that payment processor and be refunded. At that moment, I ceased to have any control over how and if that will occur nor do I know what the company that froze the funds has done since with the money they claimed to have in their posession. Those are the personal facts. Posted to: Main Page Reflections Whatever she says, i still think that Charis is a scammer who got caught before she could run with all our money. Scampay is also scammer who got caught up in their own design. scammer who got caught by another scammer who got caught by another scammer.. right ? 
QUOTE(dmday1 @ Apr 18 2006, 12:18 AM) [snapback]1903933[/snapback] Something that I thought was funny... I wanted to take a look at how popular ABC4 has been since 12DP is over now. Just take a look below. I'm sure they wish 12DP was back! that is some good research dude  got me
Brent boy is upto it again, making his bread and butter :>>>>>
http://www.abc4.com/local_news/local_headl...82-4591748BBAAC QUOTE(ItsMik @ Apr 18 2006, 10:58 PM) [snapback]1916817[/snapback] Brent boy is upto it again, making his bread and butter :>>>>> http://www.abc4.com/local_news/local_headl...82-4591748BBAAC Oooops he forgot to put his reflink in his article - lol 
Well, I guess it's back to digging ditches and siphioning gasoline for a living. Slingin' dirt and swallerin' gas for food money. Caris stashed the gold somewheres me'thinks. Aye, gi'nite' n' sleep tight.
Anyone got their chargeback so far? Who is the latest?
QUOTE(Cyzarine @ Apr 19 2006, 04:01 PM) [snapback]1917871[/snapback] Anyone got their chargeback so far? Who is the latest? am working with wellsfargo - charge back against EMO..
I received my chargeback that I started back in february last week. It was around $1,800 with providian bank.
Wow, thought this was still in the On Hold section.
Has anyone actually made any heads or tails of her new site/program/venture? What is it? And can it make me money? If you have, please fill me in
I bank with bank of america and today i recieved a letter saying the investigation of my $1545 chargeback on stormpay was done with and I would get to keep the money!!! Had to wait since Febuary for them to do their investigation but its done with and Stormpay loses
QUOTE(Cyzarine @ Apr 19 2006, 02:31 AM) [snapback]1917871[/snapback] Anyone got their chargeback so far? Who is the latest? i suppose that u have deposited emo by credit card?
Well, guess it's back to the streets now...
QUOTE(moneysources2k6 @ Apr 19 2006, 06:58 PM) [snapback]1920647[/snapback] Probably just a faker who tries to make some cash ... QUOTE(future @ Apr 21 2006, 02:40 PM) [snapback]1936001[/snapback] Probably just a faker who tries to make some cash ... Yeah  doesnt seem real at all.
so any chanse of refunds?
anybody have Charis cell phone?
It's been nearly 2 months since the SEC take over and I havn't gotten any information of substance from anywhere. If you e-mail the receiver, you get a regurgitated statement that basically says nothing except we're working on it. One obvious question that hasn't been addressed is, does Stormpay have the millions of dollars of 12Dailypros members money? If not, where is it? If the SEC's investigation hasn't come up with this money, why isn't there any criminal investigation and charges made against Stormpay. Here is the last reply from the SEC to my e-mail request. QUESTION-"Is the money that Stormpay supposedly froze (apparently millions, as in
50 million), even accounted for? ANSWER-"Not yet but we are working on it." QUOTE(lsjimm @ Apr 21 2006, 08:02 AM) [snapback]1936956[/snapback] It's been nearly 2 months since the SEC take over and I havn't gotten any information of substance from anywhere. If you e-mail the receiver, you get a regurgitated statement that basically says nothing except we're working on it. One obvious question that hasn't been addressed is, does Stormpay have the millions of dollars of 12Dailypros members money? If not, where is it? If the SEC's investigation hasn't come up with this money, why isn't there any crimminal investigation and charges made against Stormpay. Here is the last reply from the SEC to my e-mail request. QUESTION-"Is the money that Stormpay supposedly froze (apparently millions, as in 50 million), even accounted for? ANSWER-"Not yet but we are working on it." I agree, how is it storm pay is still in business. I recevied a notice from them yesterday with a new chargeback, and it was the for the only payment I actually got from stormpay in real money. so of course my account went to negitive. I gave SP a 5% good vote when I was paid, and now I give them 100% AS*****whole award!!!! QUOTE(lsjimm @ Apr 21 2006, 12:02 PM) [snapback]1936956[/snapback] It's been nearly 2 months since the SEC take over and I havn't gotten any information of substance from anywhere. If you e-mail the receiver, you get a regurgitated statement that basically says nothing except we're working on it. One obvious question that hasn't been addressed is, does Stormpay have the millions of dollars of 12Dailypros members money? If not, where is it? If the SEC's investigation hasn't come up with this money, why isn't there any crimminal investigation and charges made against Stormpay. Here is the last reply from the SEC to my e-mail request. QUESTION-"Is the money that Stormpay supposedly froze (apparently millions, as in 50 million), even accounted for? ANSWER-"Not yet but we are working on it." People must think we're all joking when we say it'll be years before anyone sees anything. If anyone sees anything before that then consider yourself lucky but it usually takes 2-3 years to work on these so they can drain every penny out for their 200-500 an hour they get to "receive" some account.
Hi
just received this email from the receiver: QUOTE Securities and Exchange Commission v. Charis Johnson, LifeClicks, LLC, and 12Daily Pro; USDC, Central Dist. of CA, Case No. CV 06-01018-NM(PLAx) As most of you know by now, on March 1, 2006, Judge Nora M. Manella of the United States District Court for the Central District of California entered an Order of Permanent Injunction and related Orders which included the appointment of Thomas F. Lennon as permanent receiver in the above-referenced case. This Permanent Injunction specifically enjoined investors from exercising self-help, including "initiating or processing chargebacks of any monies used to purchase or upgrade membership units in or with 12DP." Because the Permanent Injunction was not clear as to whether it also applied to financial institutions processing chargebacks, the Receiver sought and obtained the Clarification Order that explicitly also prohibited financial institutions, to the extent possible, from processing chargebacks or refunds on electronic transfers. The Clarification Order was entered March 14, 2006. Visa, MasterCard, Global Payments, and Nova Information Systems, Inc. all filed applications requesting that the Clarification Order be vacated and that the Permanent Injunction Order be narrowed to make clear that individuals that used their credit cards to purchase memberships or upgrades retained whatever rights they had under their agreements with their credit card issuer. These applications were granted by the Court's minute order dated March 27, 2006. The original Permanent Injunction and the Court's minute order are posted on the Receiver's website: www.tlennonfor12dailypro.com. As a result of these orders, investors who used credit cards to invest are not enjoined from exercising self-help vis-à-vis their credit card, but investors that used electronic fund transfers to invest are enjoined from exercising self-help. Although this may seem like an unfair distinction, the legal rights of each group are different. The rights of consumers to dispute electronic transfers are limited to unauthorized debits or errors in the amount of debits, but do not provide a right to reverse a transfer because the consumer has discovered that the recipient was perpetrating a fraud. Moreover, all investors and creditors are enjoined from initiating any legal action against 12Daily Pro, LifeClicks or Charis Johnson. The Receiver's goal is to try and put all investors on the same footing in obtaining a return of their principal. It is uncertain at this time whether there will be enough funds recovered to achieve that goal. The Receiver's efforts are focused on recovering funds that rightfully belong to the receivership estate, obtaining records from StormPay and others in order to determine how much each investor transferred to 12Daily Pro, how much each investor received in returns, and how much each investor recovered through chargebacks or electronic transfer returns. From this information, the Receiver will determine the net claim amount of each investor. The Receiver anticipates asking permission from the Court to distribute the assets recovered to investors pro rata based on net claim amounts. It is impossible to estimate at this time what likely recoveries will be or when the Receiver may be in a position to make distributions. The Receiver realizes that this is an extremely frustrating situation for investors, but please understand that he is working as diligently as possible to reach a fair and equitable result. Please check the website for updates and further information including answers to frequently asked questions. Please click here to log that you have viewed this document: www.tlennonfor12dailypro.com/notice/notice_record.aspx?email=******@hotmail.com This e-mail was sent by Thomas F. Lennon Inc., located at 7777 Alvarado Rd., Suite 712, La Mesa, CA 91941 in the USA. To not receive further e-mails, please click here or reply to this e-mail with "unlist" in the Subject line. at least some news ... 
QUOTE(trinity @ Apr 21 2006, 03:53 PM) [snapback]1939412[/snapback] Hi just received this email from the receiver: at least some news ... received this mail too QUOTE(jon2000 @ Apr 22 2006, 07:23 AM) [snapback]1939552[/snapback] received this mail too yeah, me too.. BTW, wat does this mail mean? seems like too much legal terms for me... anybody care to explain?
i receive this email also, i am in profit of about usd$600/- and the worst part is they may chase after the money , it mention in their website and no their email
received it too
i also got this email... i feel like its almost a threat.. what i don't understand is that i didn't have any money in 12dp and my chargeback wasn't made toward 12dp.. it was made for alientrust... so that does that put me in the scope for legal action.. im a bit confused
Just wondered. Are your STormpay account still active or you have deleted it?
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