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Feel better ?
I'll still refrain of quoting this GREAT post .. tongue4.gif ( don't see the reason to quote it again, making the scroll bar way too too long ..wink.gif )
But proadco! You're just EXCELLENT !!


BTW. Do you think it's worth to send Brent tingerinvest or alikes links ? dancing4dh.gif seriosly !
proadco
Everyone, I think it's time to turn the heat up
and bring national attention to Stormpay.


Stormpay sets plot to seize millions from
tens of thousands of people globalwide, then
files for bankruptcy.

If we can get associated press to pick up
the story. This would really put a damper
on Stormpay's racing events.

http://www.associatedpress.com/



QUOTE(Feel better ? @ Feb 21 2006, 07:46 PM) [snapback]1302871[/snapback]

I'll still refrain of quoting this GREAT post .. tongue4.gif ( don't see the reason to quote it again, making the scroll bar way too too long ..wink.gif )
But proadco! You're just EXCELLENT !!
BTW. Do you think it's worth to send Brent tingerinvest or alikes links ? dancing4dh.gif seriosly !



LOL, what do you have to loose.

Deep down, I think Brent wish he was in
on the surf program instead of trying to
beef up advertising dollars for the abc4.

I bet he goes through alot of shoes.
whoot
QUOTE(proadco @ Feb 21 2006, 08:57 PM) [snapback]1302929[/snapback]

Everyone, I think it's time to turn the heat up
and bring national attention to Stormpay.
Stormpay sets plot to seize millions from
tens of thousands of people globalwide, then
files for bankruptcy.

If we can get associated press to pick up
the story. This would really put a damper
on Stormpay's racing events.

http://www.associatedpress.com/
LOL, what do you have to loose.

Deep down, I think Brent wish he was in
on the surf program instead of trying to
beef up advertising dollars for the abc4.

I bet he goes through alot of shoes.

how pathetic! shocking.gif
nursepower
Whoot....why do you come here? It's not like you ever add anything constructive. You simply mock those trying to keep a positive attitude and trying to find a way to recoup some lost money....so bug off!
whoot
waaa waaaa......I have just as many rights to come here and debate some of the ridiculous statements that are made by the ponzi queen worshippers
jimbono
QUOTE(whoot @ Feb 21 2006, 08:24 PM) [snapback]1303279[/snapback]

waaa waaaa......I have just as many rights to come here and debate some of the ridiculous statements that are made by the ponzi queen worshippers

LONG LIVE THE TROLLS !!! rofl4.gif rofl4.gif rofl4.gif
nursepower
My question is why? What do you possibly get out of coming here to debate an issue that true "ponzi queen worshippers" wouldn't listen to anyway?
jimbono
QUOTE(konic81 @ Feb 21 2006, 08:26 PM) [snapback]1303292[/snapback]

HEY GUYS THERE IS NEW PROGRAM THAT CAME OUT I WAS TOLD THAT THEY ARE FROM THE SAME SPONCERS AS 12DP WAS IF ANY ONE INTERESTED I PAY 70% REFERRAL COMISION BACK FOR LIFE THE LINK IS IN MY SIGNATURE yahoo.gif

YOU BETTER THE CHECK THE RULES BEFORE YOU GET YANKED OUT FROM MMG, BUD !!!
jimbono
QUOTE(nursepower @ Feb 21 2006, 08:26 PM) [snapback]1303296[/snapback]

My question is why? What do you possibly get out of coming here to debate an issue that true "ponzi queen worshippers" wouldn't listen to anyway?

Some folks got nothing better to do other and enjoy getting their a s s e s kicked out.. Lighten.gif
Take it easy and PASS ON YOUR KY JELLY !! rofl4.gif rofl4.gif rofl4.gif
whoot
QUOTE(nursepower @ Feb 21 2006, 09:26 PM) [snapback]1303296[/snapback]

My question is why? What do you possibly get out of coming here to debate an issue that true "ponzi queen worshippers" wouldn't listen to anyway?



I like the entertainment value.....the theories that are thrown around here are soooo far fetched
jimbono
QUOTE(konic81 @ Feb 21 2006, 08:30 PM) [snapback]1303341[/snapback]

HEY IF YOU WANT ANOTHER SURFING PROGRAM THAT'S NEW, GOOD,FAST GROWING AND HAS A GREAT ADMIN THIS IS IT. dancing4dh.gif

you got reported , jerk !!! censored2.gif off furious.gif
Feel better ?
QUOTE(nursepower @ Feb 22 2006, 05:20 AM) [snapback]1303237[/snapback]

Whoot....why do you come here?


May be he needs more so called " attention" .. ?




Ok.. I sent Brent of ABS4 a letter - pointing him to 200%/20 days programms .. Moreover, i mentioned him that "small" percentage program like Netiba ($5 for referring others) do not live long these days ...

Now... http://www.associatedpress.com/ ...


zero
QUOTE(konic81 @ Feb 22 2006, 10:26 AM) [snapback]1303292[/snapback]

HEY GUYS THERE IS NEW PROGRAM THAT CAME OUT I WAS TOLD THAT THEY ARE FROM THE SAME SPONCERS AS 12DP WAS IF ANY ONE INTERESTED I PAY 70% REFERRAL COMISION BACK FOR LIFE THE LINK IS IN MY SIGNATURE yahoo.gif


what is that program name?
richville
QUOTE(whoot @ Feb 21 2006, 06:24 PM) [snapback]1303279[/snapback]

waaa waaaa......I have just as many rights to come here and debate some of the ridiculous statements that are made by the ponzi queen worshippers

So said the Stormpay employee tongue4.gif
Dquixote1217
Good evening, guys and gals! Miss me? lol Maybe I can make it up to you:

This just posted at the AdlandPro community:

Join This Civil Rico Act Class Action Suit Against StormPay

autosurfsteve@yahoo.com

I have contacted attorney Tony Davis in Austin, Texas who is preparing to file a Civil Rico Act class action lawsuit against Stormpay. He will be representing several other AutoSurf members in Austin, Texas who have lost money from AutoSurfs and Stormpay.

If you would like to let Tony Davis know that you have also lost money from any autosurf program by way of your Stormpay account, please send an e-mail to me with attached DOCUMENTS with DATES of transactions, correspodenences, replys, tickets, receipts, etc.

autosurfsteve@yahoo.com

This is an important legal step that we must take to get our money back!

If you know that you are a victim of the recent Storm Pay, Inc. actions and wish to join in this class action Civil Rico Act case against Storm Pay, Inc., Ceo Steve C. Girsky and owner John R. McConnell, you need to gather up your emails and documents send them to me. I will in turn submit them to attorney Tony Davis of Austin, Texas.

Wheither your monies are frozen in an autosurf account, &/or if you incurred charge backs from your StormPay account &/or your bank account &/or credit card(s), send me your documents. It doesn't matter where you are located in the world, if you are a victim and wish to be included in this Civil Rico class action lawsuit against stormpay.com, send me your documents.

In my conversation with attorney Tony Davis, he mentioned that all we need is 5 people to establish this lawsuit. He plans to execute this by mid-March, 2006

This civil award includes monetary damages; in particular, three times the actual damages established at trial plus the plaintiffs attorney's fees and costs.

autosurfsteve@yahoo.com

Stephen Shearer, February 21, 4:50 PM, PST
Stephen Shearer ... stevesinfo ... sUrFeRstEvE

ALL ABOUT THE STORMPAY SCAM: http://www.surfersteve.info
"Who is Stephen?" http://www.stephenshearer.zoomshare.com

biggrin.gif
jimbono
QUOTE(Dquixote1217 @ Feb 21 2006, 08:57 PM) [snapback]1303681[/snapback]

Good evening, guys and gals! Miss me? lol Maybe I can make it up to you:

This just posted at the AdlandPro community:

Join This Civil Rico Act Class Action Suit Against StormPay

autosurfsteve@yahoo.com

I have contacted attorney Tony Davis in Austin, Texas who is preparing to file a Civil Rico Act class action lawsuit against Stormpay. He will be representing several other AutoSurf members in Austin, Texas who have lost money from AutoSurfs and Stormpay.

If you would like to let Tony Davis know that you have also lost money from any autosurf program by way of your Stormpay account, please send an e-mail to me with attached DOCUMENTS with DATES of transactions, correspodenences, replys, tickets, receipts, etc.

autosurfsteve@yahoo.com

This is an important legal step that we must take to get our money back!

If you know that you are a victim of the recent Storm Pay, Inc. actions and wish to join in this class action Civil Rico Act case against Storm Pay, Inc., Ceo Steve C. Girsky and owner John R. McConnell, you need to gather up your emails and documents send them to me. I will in turn submit them to attorney Tony Davis of Austin, Texas.

Wheither your monies are frozen in an autosurf account, &/or if you incurred charge backs from your StormPay account &/or your bank account &/or credit card(s), send me your documents. It doesn't matter where you are located in the world, if you are a victim and wish to be included in this Civil Rico class action lawsuit against stormpay.com, send me your documents.

In my conversation with attorney Tony Davis, he mentioned that all we need is 5 people to establish this lawsuit. He plans to execute this by mid-March, 2006

This civil award includes monetary damages; in particular, three times the actual damages established at trial plus the plaintiffs attorney’s fees and costs.

autosurfsteve@yahoo.com

Stephen Shearer, February 21, 4:50 PM, PST
Stephen Shearer ... stevesinfo ... sUrFeRstEvE

ALL ABOUT THE STORMPAY SCAM: http://www.surfersteve.info
"Who is Stephen?" http://www.stephenshearer.zoomshare.com

biggrin.gif



keep it goin, bud clapping7.gif
watsuuuup
QUOTE(richville @ Feb 22 2006, 01:56 PM) [snapback]1303664[/snapback]

So said the Stormpay employee tongue4.gif

lol there has to be a reason why "WHOOT"HANGS AROUND maybe sp employee maybe attention maybe he just likes to give ppl a hard time about their failures .medication maybe a alternative smile.gif
Dino
QUOTE(Feel better ? @ Feb 21 2006, 09:32 PM) [snapback]1303381[/snapback]

May be he needs more so called " attention" .. ?
Ok.. I sent Brent of ABS4 a letter - pointing him to 200%/20 days programms .. Moreover, i mentioned him that "small" percentage program like Netiba ($5 for referring others) do not live long these days ...

Now... http://www.associatedpress.com/ ...

Did you tell him that StormPay has an Autosurf of thier own, Stormclix?
Dquixote1217
Oh boys, oh girls! See my earlier post - there is a rico act class action lawsuit gainst Stormpay that EVERYONE can join in, no matter where you live in the world. Triple damages, court costs, attorney fees and all are included in the award.
proadco
QUOTE(Feel better ? @ Feb 21 2006, 08:32 PM) [snapback]1303381[/snapback]

May be he needs more so called " attention" .. ?
Ok.. I sent Brent of ABS4 a letter - pointing him to 200%/20 days programms .. Moreover, i mentioned him that "small" percentage program like Netiba ($5 for referring others) do not live long these days ...

Now... http://www.associatedpress.com/ ...



LMAOOOOOOO

oh yea,

I suggested to Brent to visit

" Talkgold forum "

He said he would do that, he even
repeated the name back to me.
Lennyw
I saw something interesting when I viewed the latest video from that ABC4 station. It's the "looking for the money" one. The newsreporter went to Charis's business address. Then to that apartment of hers. Then the kicker. He went to the site of the new house she was building. Then I thought back some. Didn't Charis same something to the effect that she may have to sell her car to continue with the now defunct Convention? Now isn't that something. The new home she's building. So were you really contemplating selling your car Charis? Or did you want us to think you were down to your last dime? Revealing.
marcdamfman
QUOTE(Dquixote1217 @ Feb 21 2006, 09:57 PM) [snapback]1303681[/snapback]

Good evening, guys and gals! Miss me? lol Maybe I can make it up to you:

This just posted at the AdlandPro community:

Join This Civil Rico Act Class Action Suit Against StormPay

autosurfsteve@yahoo.com

I have contacted attorney Tony Davis in Austin, Texas who is preparing to file a Civil Rico Act class action lawsuit against Stormpay. He will be representing several other AutoSurf members in Austin, Texas who have lost money from AutoSurfs and Stormpay.

If you would like to let Tony Davis know that you have also lost money from any autosurf program by way of your Stormpay account, please send an e-mail to me with attached DOCUMENTS with DATES of transactions, correspodenences, replys, tickets, receipts, etc.

autosurfsteve@yahoo.com

This is an important legal step that we must take to get our money back!

If you know that you are a victim of the recent Storm Pay, Inc. actions and wish to join in this class action Civil Rico Act case against Storm Pay, Inc., Ceo Steve C. Girsky and owner John R. McConnell, you need to gather up your emails and documents send them to me. I will in turn submit them to attorney Tony Davis of Austin, Texas.

Wheither your monies are frozen in an autosurf account, &/or if you incurred charge backs from your StormPay account &/or your bank account &/or credit card(s), send me your documents. It doesn't matter where you are located in the world, if you are a victim and wish to be included in this Civil Rico class action lawsuit against stormpay.com, send me your documents.

In my conversation with attorney Tony Davis, he mentioned that all we need is 5 people to establish this lawsuit. He plans to execute this by mid-March, 2006

This civil award includes monetary damages; in particular, three times the actual damages established at trial plus the plaintiffs attorney's fees and costs.

autosurfsteve@yahoo.com

Stephen Shearer, February 21, 4:50 PM, PST
Stephen Shearer ... stevesinfo ... sUrFeRstEvE

ALL ABOUT THE STORMPAY SCAM: http://www.surfersteve.info
"Who is Stephen?" http://www.stephenshearer.zoomshare.com

biggrin.gif


Down with stormpay!!! dance9bh.gif
soccer
QUOTE(ballast @ Feb 21 2006, 03:40 AM) [snapback]1294631[/snapback]

How cannot you be aware that Stormpay cannot accept payments for any gambling type businesses???
Is it so hard to read first "Stormpay users rules" ???
If you dont want any problem, USE MONEYBOOKERS !!! But , Frank, maybe you like problem...

I think I could label ballast an eyes roller. rolleyes.gif .
How come our account was good to stormpay for 5 weeks, and suddenly
they freeze us is different from the question:

How come 12 daily pro account was good to stormpay for 9 months, and suddenly
they freeze them.

because we take action to receive our money back and 12 daily pro do nothing.

but again, the big different: we paid our members after the freeze. 12daily pro did not.

And why they gave us the Netiba?
chloe2651
QUOTE(soccer @ Feb 22 2006, 03:23 PM) [snapback]1304533[/snapback]

I think I could label ballast an eyes roller. rolleyes.gif .
How come our account was good to stormpay for 5 weeks, and suddenly
they freeze us is different from the question:

How come 12 daily pro account was good to stormpay for 9 months, and suddenly
they freeze them.

because we take action to receive our money back and 12 daily pro do nothing.

but again, the big different: we paid our members after the freeze. 12daily pro did not.

And why they gave us the Netiba?

without me having to read pages and pages of this thread what action have you taken to get your money back?
ItsMik
Did anyone here see the 10pm advt by ABC4?
proadco
QUOTE(Feel better ? @ Feb 21 2006, 07:46 PM) [snapback]1302871[/snapback]

I'll still refrain of quoting this GREAT post .. tongue4.gif ( don't see the reason to quote it again, making the scroll bar way too too long ..wink.gif )
But proadco! You're just EXCELLENT !!
BTW. Do you think it's worth to send Brent tingerinvest or alikes links ? dancing4dh.gif seriosly !



Thanks for the kind words


My first phone call early this morning was to
the abc4 station manager but he was out.

However I did speak with his assistant for
several minutes.

I asked her if they had pay day loan companies
in their town. She replied, they had several. I asked
her why isn't brent covering them since they charge 1 %
per day interest / 30 % interest per month.

Whereas, with Brent's bashing of 12dpr members returns
calculates 2.31%. Instead Brent Hunsacker is beating the
bushes to drive ratings of 12% returns.

The lady I spoke with, the station managers assistant stumbled
calling stormpay, said stormpro

Well in a since Stormpro is really making a Storm and being a
pro scammer at it. L@@k like their doing their best to keep
the funds along with the scamming netiab to boot.


After that conversation she was going to direct me the news
cordinator, John Gleason. But, John was out till after lunch.

After lunch I called and had about a 20 minute conversation
with John Gleason.

I said John, you guys are missing the big chance to boost
your ratings by not breathing down stormpay neck with tens
of thousands members being held hostage by Stormpay.

Why are you guys bashing Charis, she doesn't have the funds,
Stormpay does. Havn't you guys ever heard the old saying, follow
the money.

Even before abc4 ran the BYU story, No one had any compliants
with 12dpro. Your barking up the wrong tree.

It doesn't make sense to be looking at 12dpro. Shouldn't you be
taking the position of the people globalwide that is being shook down
by Stormpay. Arn't you concern for the people in Utah getting their
funds back as well the people globalwide.

John, think about it for a second. Bringing national attention to
abc4 vs Stormpay in the public behalf, Where's the money Stormpay ?


I also stated to John, you guys sound like it's impossible for anyone
to make money unless your working 40 to 60 hours punching the clock
working for someone else.

Then John stated, maybe you should speak to Brent Hunsaker.

I said why ? Brent doesn't know his left hand from his right hand. Brent
is still confused that America is still the land of opportunity where people
take risk in life to get ahead so they don't have to work for minimum wages.

I stated to John, that WallStreet is one big ponzi scheme itself, when people
make a profit it's from the losers who invested late. He laughed and agreed.

Then I brought up another point that the gov't is the only ones that can produce
and print money, but why are you guys not reporting credit card companies that
produce money out of thin air.

I asked if he had a stormpay account and he stated No.... I said what !! How in
the world can you do a investgative report and not even create a stormpay account
to see what's all going on behind the scenes within stormclix. John said, stormclix,
what's that ?

Then I brought up the rankings on alexa that if it was not for all of us members
that abc4 would still be at the bottom of the totem pole. He asked me to spell
alexa so he could see the stats of their site.

After speaking with three different people at abc4 it has become apparent they
have no idea the power the internet really has. The must feel its all centered
around google and yahoo for information only.

For those who are just coming on the net tonight, scroll back and you will see my post
with my conversation with Brent Hunsaker of abc4
DeepSix
jeeeeeeezzzzz... so.. things just went from bad to ten times worse... i can kiss my money goodbye then i guess huh?... somehow.. stormpay is going to manage to run away w/ millions of dollars... i don't know how bankruptcy law works.. but if they run w/ my money.. that would be the biggest BS ever... im going to go ask my law professor how this bankruptcy law works tomorrow
proadco
QUOTE(ItsMik @ Feb 21 2006, 10:35 PM) [snapback]1304630[/snapback]

Did anyone here see the 10pm advt by ABC4?


The news will be on in six minutes, most likely
it's about the convention being cancelled.

Things reporters do to try and keep their job
and boost ratings for abc4
WebVenture
Things couldn't get any worse for 12DP sad.gif
amcnd
ABC4 news...
1. Convention off.
thats it
Nvus
QUOTE(amcnd @ Feb 22 2006, 12:09 AM) [snapback]1304917[/snapback]

ABC4 news...
1. Convention off.
thats it


lol...

well isnt ABC just kinda sorta late with their 'breaking news'

~envious
kramralk
QUOTE(stormysurfshares @ Feb 21 2006, 05:55 PM) [snapback]1302383[/snapback]

One of the really sad thing is how we keep hearing about people who lost money they could not afford. AT stormysurf.com we try to encourage people NOT to spend money they can't afford. I just got off the phone with a person who is disabled and lost everything when stormpay froze our funds. We are refunding our members slowly ..........here is what 12dailypro should do:

Pick a couple good processors like e-gold and alertpay and start over. Forget about stormpay and what happended and start over and start paying again. Alien trust , Stormysurf.com and trafficmeltdown are moving on, so should 12dailypro.



The only problem with that si that they wont let you run a business like that behind bars.
chloe2651
I'm sure this has been posted before but intresting still.




BBB Reliability Report
The Better Business Bureau
Serving Middle Tennessee
P.O. Box 198436
Nashville, TN 37219-8436

StormPay, Inc
1690 Golf Club Lane
Clarksville, TN 37043
Telephone: (931) 647-8750
Fax: (931) 647-8970

The BBB reports on members and non-members. If a company is a member of the BBB, it is stated in this report


BBB Definition:

report - A summary of activity reflected in a company's BBB file. Includes basic business background, BBB membership information, and Bureau complaint activity over the previous three years. Also reports may include any known government actions, advertising issues or other information that results from activity conducted by the BBB.

.

Principal: Mr. Steve Girsky , CEO Incorporated: July 2003, TN
Entity: Corporation File Open Date: September 2002
TOB Classification: Online Payment Processor
BBB Membership: This company is not a member.

Principal Officer

Mr. Steve Girsky is the CEO of the company.

Customer Service Contact

Mr. Steve Girsky is the complaint contact person for this company and should be contacted at (931) 647-8750 before filing a complaint with the BBB.

Customer Experience

BBB Interim Report


BBB Definition:

Report - A summary of activity reflected in a company's BBB file. Includes basic business background, BBB membership information, and Bureau complaint activity over the previous three years. Also reports may include any known government actions, advertising issues


BBB Definition:

advertising issues - Claims alleging print or electronic media advertised claims or practices misrepresent the service or product offer.

or other information that results from activity conducted by the BBB.

Dated February 16, 2006

From January 1 through February 16, 2006, the Better Business Bureau has received 812 complaints from consumer stating that the company has frozen their online accounts and will not make available the funds in those accounts. While the company has been notified of each complaint filed with BBB, it has not answered or resolved


BBB Definition:

resolved - The company resolved


BBB Definition:

resolved - The company resolved the complaint issues.

the complaint issues.

them.

On February 16, 2006, BBB discontinued processing complaints with the company due to the company’s failure to respond to complaint volume.

Customers with complaints may continue to file them with BBB. BBB will forward all complaints to the appropriate regulatory authority.

This company first came to the attention of BBB by means of consumer inquiry in September 2002 and was operated by John R. McConnell, Jr. From September 2002 through May 2005, the company received 44 customer complaints concerning the company’s failure to allow customers to withdraw available funds, poor customer service and failure to provide laptop computers per the company’s computer matrix program. These complaints were closed by BBB as unanswered and unresolved


BBB Definition:

unresolved - The company failed to resolve the complaint issues.

.

On May 13, 2005, BBB received a telephone call from Steve Girksy indicating that he was the new CEO and customer contact. At that time, Steve Girsky requested all unanswered and unresolved


BBB Definition:

unresolved - The company failed to resolve the complaint issues.

complaints. Girsky provided the company’s position on the previous complaints. 17 of the 44 complaints were closed as unresolved


BBB Definition:

unresolved - The company failed to resolve the complaint issues.

.

From May 2005 through December 2005, the company received 18 complaints concerning the company’s failure to inform and follow up with its customers when it suspends accounts, failure to release funds in a timely manner and failure resolve complaints directly with its customers. The company had responded to these issues by providing an explanation, releasing funds or by making refunds.

John R. McConnell, Jr. is also identified in BBB files as the registered agent of NetIBA on which BBB maintains a separate file which is available at your request.

On August 7, 2003, the Tennessee Securities Division of the Department of Commerce & Insurance issued an "Order to Cease and Desist" (file number 03-020) with TymGlobal, Inc., StormPay, Inc. and John R. McConnell, Jr.

The order states that TymGlobal and StormPay are under common ownership and/or control. TymGlobal operates an internet website which is registered to StormPay. On the internet website, respondents are operating a pyramid and/or Ponzi scheme promising large returns on investments for participating in the scheme. The order further states that TymGlobal has not registered any securities offerings with the Division pursuant to Tennessee Securities Act of 1980. Nor has the company registered with the Division as a broker-dealer, agent of a broker-dealer or investment adviser. Also, the respondent StormPay has not registered any securities offerings with the Division nor has the company registered with the Division as a broker-dealer, agent of a broker-dealer, or investment adviser. John R. McConnell, Jr. has not registered with the Division as a broker-dealer, an agent of a broker-dealer or as an investment adviser.

Potential investors were given the opportunity to invest in both partnership shares as TymGlobal as well as to participate in various Ponzi schemes. Respondents promised a high return. The offering of participation in the schemes sold by the respondents is an investment contract and thus, a security under the act.

The Division ordered the respondents TymGlobal, StormPay and John R. McConnell, Jr to cease and desist the conduct of a broker-dealer in the state of Tennessee until such time as it effectively registers with the Division. The order did not intend to prohibit lawful conduct of the respondents.

For additional information concerning this order, please contact Daphne Smith, Assistant Commissioner for Securities, State of Tennessee, Department of Commerce and Insurance, Suite 680, 500 James Robertson Pky, Nashville, TN 37243.

Report as of February 21, 2006
Copyright© 2006 Better Business Bureau®, Inc.

BBB reports may not be reproduced for sales or promotional purposes.

The information in this report has either been provided by the company or has been compiled by the Bureau from other reliable sources.
kramralk
QUOTE(Lennyw @ Feb 21 2006, 09:07 PM) [snapback]1304385[/snapback]

I saw something interesting when I viewed the latest video from that ABC4 station. It's the "looking for the money" one. The newsreporter went to Charis's business address. Then to that apartment of hers. Then the kicker. He went to the site of the new house she was building. Then I thought back some. Didn't Charis same something to the effect that she may have to sell her car to continue with the now defunct Convention? Now isn't that something. The new home she's building. So were you really contemplating selling your car Charis? Or did you want us to think you were down to your last dime? Revealing.



HAAAA HAAAA, that woman has some of your money my money and alot other members money and she even has members donating money to her. Yeah shes broke alright.LOL
proadco
QUOTE(Eighterz @ May 12 2005, 08:38 PM) [snapback]242837[/snapback]

well, well, well smile.gif 12% appeared too.
Waiting for 30% one. rofl4.gif



You know, if Brent Hunsaker can't believe
12dailypro...

Could you imagine the field day Brent would
have over 24dailypro.

hmm,,,,,

brent@abc4.com
kramralk
QUOTE(WebVenture @ Feb 21 2006, 10:03 PM) [snapback]1304862[/snapback]

Things couldn't get any worse for 12DP sad.gif




Oh they could be worse like Charis going to jail for some years.
onlinecashtime
can someone post the link?
admin-SuperHyipGame
I hope SP doesn't file for bankruptcy. That would be bad for all of us who had money invested in 12DP.
proadco
QUOTE(onlinecashtime @ Feb 21 2006, 11:31 PM) [snapback]1305152[/snapback]

can someone post the link?


Which link do you want '

QUOTE(kramralk @ Feb 21 2006, 11:19 PM) [snapback]1305016[/snapback]

The only problem with that si that they wont let you run a business like that behind bars.


Behind bars, Charis is a smart lady, don't you think she
covered herself. Stormpay is using 12dpro as a smoke screen
to attempt to cover their tracks of cooking the books.

But the feds needs to raid Stormpay before they laundry
what money is left in the kitty before they send it off to a swiss
bank account.
chloe2651
QUOTE(admin-SuperHyipGame @ Feb 22 2006, 04:33 PM) [snapback]1305176[/snapback]

I hope SP doesn't file for bankruptcy. That would be bad for all of us who had money invested in 12DP.

All of our money is gone................... bye2.gif bye2.gif ...................Life goes on check my signature you will see the light. lol.
gauranggupta
tell this brent chap to go take a hike, tell him if he has the guts to come and post here.
marcdamfman
QUOTE(chloe2651 @ Feb 22 2006, 12:59 AM) [snapback]1305422[/snapback]

All of our money is gone................... bye2.gif bye2.gif ...................Life goes on check my signature you will see the light. lol.



For sure...time to move on. Get E Gold and check out the new surfs rising!!! dance9bh.gif
kelvin888
is the site down atm?
gauranggupta
QUOTE(kelvin888 @ Feb 21 2006, 10:59 PM) [snapback]1305942[/snapback]

is the site down atm?

Site Temporarily Unavailable
Sorry, the site you requested is currently unavailable. It will be available as soon as possible. Please try again later.


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Generated Wed, 22 Feb 2006 06:59:29 GMT by Prolexic.com (SI4MIA1/2.0)


yes looks like maintainance or ddos
kramralk
QUOTE(proadco @ Feb 21 2006, 10:48 PM) [snapback]1305198[/snapback]

Which link do you want '
Behind bars, Charis is a smart lady, don't you think she
covered herself. Stormpay is using 12dpro as a smoke screen
to attempt to cover their tracks of cooking the books.

But the feds needs to raid Stormpay before they laundry
what money is left in the kitty before they send it off to a swiss
bank account.



She may be smart enough to fool you but she isnt smart enough to fool the FEDS.
Baby Angel
this thread is HUGE..i think its time you guy moved on... bye2.gif
Nvus
I wouldnt be so quick to give Charis the boot here everyone that seems to have completely lost all hope of a positive resolution to this current unfortunate situation we are all in...

I recall just a few weeks ago that everyone thought Vince at AT wasnt getting his act together and that his business was bound to fade away into oblivion. Well didnt he just shock us all...his site is out of the "sites on hold" list despite the many allegations that he was doomed to failure...

Give the woman a chance; I cant imagine the logistics of dealing with thousands upon thousands of members, ensuring that support tickets are responded too, keeping an active admin presence on the forum, monitoring all incoming member registrations and also tracking pending payments and completing them as promised...she did this for months; some of us here would flip head over heels for a HYIP in the HYIP list that would be able to accomplish this feat with just FIVE HUNDRED members, let alone thousands and thousands of them for over 10 months...

In the mean time, check out some sites that are paying and newly ignited flames that are not allowing SP's move to put a halt on the motor train of the online money making industry; PM me for details bout the one in my sig for example.

Support each other, we are all here for each other, thats why I joined MMG at least; glad to know there are people out there that are willing to inform each other of honest paying programs that can improve their economic status as well as offer them the chance to expand their own businesses' audience...

Take care,
~envious
proadco
I wonder what's the hold up with abc4
on updating this breaking news

Major Development in 12 Daily Pro Debacle

It's been 3 hours since the Station in Utah
ran their 10 pm news coverage.

Brent was really shocked when I told him
once we spent our funds for advertising that
those monies belong to admins in the AS
programs.

Wished I could of seen his facial expression
as he was totally baffled afterwards.
chloe2651
QUOTE(proadco @ Feb 22 2006, 06:16 PM) [snapback]1306082[/snapback]

I wonder what's the hold up with abc4
on updating this breaking news

Major Development in 12 Daily Pro Debacle

It's been 3 hours since the Station in Utah
ran their 10 pm news coverage.

Brent was really shocked when I told him
once we spent our funds for advertising that
those monies belong to admins in the AS
programs.

Wished I could of seen his facial expression
as he was totally baffled afterwards.

I wish I was next to you when you were on the phone to him. rofl4.gif
RakeMeHard
Black Gold has taken 12dp's place.
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