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QUOTE(scaredykat @ Feb 7 2006, 07:35 PM) [snapback]1137561[/snapback] I think you should watch your account because according to reports yes some peoples money has been pulled back from thier bank accounts. I cannot confirm that. Watch your account ? Yea, you sit back and watch your money!! Here's what's going to happen, when that charge back hits your bank account, your going to see an overdrawn with your bank. CLOSE YOUR BANK ACCOUNT BEFORE THAT CHARGEBACK HITS!!! QUOTE(Stelistu @ Feb 8 2006, 09:40 AM) [snapback]1137602[/snapback] stormpay is doctor Octopus from spidermann 2 ....this means that at their end, they will returned the money forced bt the good guys(12dp attorneys )    why doc oct? 
QUOTE(proadco @ Feb 7 2006, 08:46 PM) [snapback]1137648[/snapback] Watch your account ? Yea, you sit back and watch your money!! Here's what's going to happen, when that charge back hits your bank account, your going to see an overdrawn with your bank. CLOSE YOUR BANK ACCOUNT BEFORE THAT CHARGEBACK HITS!!! IF Sp happen to hit chargeback to ur bank, will it be on hold first or it takes effect immediately? any ideA? QUOTE(visser @ Feb 7 2006, 08:46 PM) [snapback]1137642[/snapback] But Dude, you are comparing a carrot to a kiwi fruit yourself. 1- You can find an annual report for McD but you can't find McD's recipes publicly. Those are considered McD's secrets. 2- The same applies to 12DP, you can find public information about where and how LifeClicks LLC is investing their money. What people are expecting from Charis is that she reveals how she can afford paying 12% daily profit. And that can be considered as her business secret. Just as McD never publicly publishes any secret recipes, Charis has no obligation to reveal her business secrets. mcDonalds has secrets? What secrets? I worked there way back in highschool, only secrets I saw was frozen food, dehydrated reconstituted with water onions, and maybe whatever was on the floor the food got on it when it was dropped  I did not realize till now that what was on the floor was a secret hehehe
QUOTE(proadco @ Feb 8 2006, 03:46 AM) [snapback]1137648[/snapback] Watch your account ? Yea, you sit back and watch your money!! Here's what's going to happen, when that charge back hits your bank account, your going to see an overdrawn with your bank. CLOSE YOUR BANK ACCOUNT BEFORE THAT CHARGEBACK HITS!!! omg scampay is a virus, I hope the authorities will kill it soon 
well I filed a claim for $2060 on one of my credit cards and the chagre was reversed today. good stuff. hopefully Scampay doesnt try to charge it again.
QUOTE(hanzahar @ Feb 7 2006, 05:48 PM) [snapback]1137663[/snapback] why doc oct? noo they are denzel washington from training day. QUOTE(qluc @ Feb 7 2006, 08:48 PM) [snapback]1137667[/snapback] IF Sp happen to hit chargeback to ur bank, will it be on hold first or it takes effect immediately? any ideA? You can dispute it if it happens to you, however disputes can go back and forth forever. If your bank is aware of problems with Stormpay they may be monitoring things. Heck with all the charbacks I have seen on here in the 1000's of dollars I am sure that somewhere somehow someone is going to eat it. sooner or later the fury will stop, most likely the government agency speculated about will have to put a stop to it. QUOTE(hanzahar @ Feb 8 2006, 03:48 AM) [snapback]1137663[/snapback] why doc oct? beacuse the situations can be compared first the scampay had good intentions, then their experiment wen bad and thay went mad as they are now and act like monsters, and the spidy comes saves the situation and stormpay returns money and dies after that well just my 2 cent imagination 
QUOTE(gtrplyr @ Feb 7 2006, 05:52 PM) [snapback]1137692[/snapback] well I filed a claim for $2060 on one of my credit cards and the chagre was reversed today. good stuff. hopefully Scampay doesnt try to charge it again. When I filed on my credit card they said they would close the account with those numbers and are issuing me a new card. 
When Charis says in an hour, does she mean an hour or does she work on some screwy star trek time code system? Not trying to be ugly just wondered when to check 12dp for update?
QUOTE(Misfit @ Feb 7 2006, 05:15 PM) [snapback]1137381[/snapback] Looks like it's time for a new theory. I haven't filed a claim since this whole fiasco started, and was a victim of a chargeback from scampay. They also cancelled a bank transfer. No I think they're trying to get rid of the evidence. What were most of the clix advertising? Autosurfs and hyips QUOTE(lifeless @ Feb 8 2006, 03:52 AM) [snapback]1137693[/snapback] noo they are denzel washington from training day.  i give up you are right, if they give 12dp's money back,and die after, they can be united states president to..in their next life, preferably
QUOTE(scaredykat @ Feb 8 2006, 02:49 AM) [snapback]1137672[/snapback] mcDonalds has secrets? What secrets? I worked there way back in highschool, only secrets I saw was frozen food, dehydrated reconstituted with water onions, and maybe whatever was on the floor the food got on it when it was dropped I did not realize till now that what was on the floor was a secret heheheQUOTE(davidscript @ Feb 7 2006, 07:22 PM) [snapback]1136959[/snapback] Oh it's obvious he knew from the jump. The best thing that could happen for him is that this doesn't go to trial, cause if it does, and he sticks with that arguement, he's toast It was McConnell who operated Tymlobal and the other scheme, not Girsky. NUK QUOTE(Stelistu @ Feb 8 2006, 09:52 AM) [snapback]1137696[/snapback] beacuse the situations can be compared first the scampay had good intentions, then their experiment wen bad and thay went mad as they are now and act like monsters, and the spidy comes saves the situation and stormpay returns money and dies after that well just my 2 cent imagination well...we'll still lost our money as stormpay already spent our monies elsewhere QUOTE(scaredykat @ Feb 7 2006, 08:52 PM) [snapback]1137695[/snapback] You can dispute it if it happens to you, however disputes can go back and forth forever. If your bank is aware of problems with Stormpay they may be monitoring things. Heck with all the charbacks I have seen on here in the 1000's of dollars I am sure that somewhere somehow someone is going to eat it. sooner or later the fury will stop, most likely the government agency speculated about will have to put a stop to it. Bank of America told me if I see a widthdraw from SP then to call them and they will refund my money then get it back from SP. BOA is aware of SP issues. QUOTE(Stelistu @ Feb 7 2006, 10:22 PM) [snapback]1137696[/snapback] beacuse the situations can be compared first the scampay had good intentions, then their experiment wen bad and thay went mad as they are now and act like monsters, and the spidy comes saves the situation and stormpay returns money and dies after that well just my 2 cent imagination Another one could be... Stormpay and cujo??  As in nice dog goes MAD!!
QUOTE(hanzahar @ Feb 8 2006, 03:56 AM) [snapback]1137723[/snapback] well...we'll still lost our money as stormpay already spent our monies elsewhere yeah I was just dreaming, thanks for waking me up in this sad reality 
QUOTE(gtrplyr @ Feb 7 2006, 05:52 PM) [snapback]1137692[/snapback] well I filed a claim for $2060 on one of my credit cards and the chagre was reversed today. good stuff. hopefully Scampay doesnt try to charge it again. omg if everyone is doing chargebacks ... there goes my money tahts stucked in SP 
QUOTE(scaredykat @ Feb 8 2006, 02:49 AM) [snapback]1137672[/snapback] mcDonalds has secrets? What secrets? I worked there way back in highschool, only secrets I saw was frozen food, dehydrated reconstituted with water onions, and maybe whatever was on the floor the food got on it when it was dropped I did not realize till now that what was on the floor was a secret hehehe Roachburger and Coke, please! S camming T rash O wns R acetrack - M y P rofits A nd Y ours QUOTE(gtrplyr @ Feb 7 2006, 08:52 PM) [snapback]1137692[/snapback] well I filed a claim for $2060 on one of my credit cards and the chagre was reversed today. good stuff. hopefully Scampay doesnt try to charge it again. How long did it take you?? QUOTE(headystuff @ Feb 7 2006, 05:54 PM) [snapback]1137705[/snapback] When I filed on my credit card they said they would close the account with those numbers and are issuing me a new card. I'm going to call them right now and tell them my card # was compromised and I want a new one. QUOTE(NSIDIUS @ Feb 7 2006, 07:26 PM) [snapback]1136986[/snapback] Well for one she said she kept it secret because of competition, if "everyone" did what they did what would make them different... However the clincher is that income may not be large enough to "completely" defend the ponzi aspect. She only needs to prove to the appropriate authorities that it's legal. You can't say that because someone keeps a trade secret under wraps that it's illegal... Have you ever seen the Coca-Cola recipe? Nope! Is Coke doing something illegal? If she is investing member money, she is running an illegal investment program due to the fact the 12DP is not registered to take investments and she is not licensed to make investments for others. NUK QUOTE(visser @ Feb 7 2006, 08:46 PM) [snapback]1137642[/snapback] But Dude, you are comparing a carrot to a kiwi fruit yourself. 1- You can find an annual report for McD but you can't find McD's recipes publicly. Those are considered McD's secrets. 2- The same applies to 12DP, you can find public information about where and how LifeClicks LLC is investing their money. What people are expecting from Charis is that she reveals how she can afford paying 12% daily profit. And that can be considered as her business secret. Just as McD never publicly publishes any secret recipes, Charis has no obligation to reveal her business secrets. In all honesty, if Charis is legit, she does not have to show anything to the news. The only people that need to know are the investigating authorities. If she is legit, sharing her money making strategies on television would be very stupid. QUOTE(wisechild @ Feb 7 2006, 06:00 PM) [snapback]1137747[/snapback] How long did it take you?? its a Chase credit card. i filed the claim on Saturday. So about 3 days. QUOTE(nuk @ Feb 7 2006, 05:55 PM) [snapback]1137720[/snapback] It was McConnell who operated Tymlobal and the other scheme, not Girsky. NUK You're saying girsky didn't have enough brains to know what was being promoted on his site? He pleads ignorance, they'll laugh him out of the courtroom QUOTE(nuk @ Feb 8 2006, 02:55 AM) [snapback]1137720[/snapback] It was McConnell who operated Tymlobal and the other scheme, not Girsky. NUK That was way back NUK, does the spikes on your head come with extra RAM memory?  I remember that TYM global thingy as well, I was offered to buy in on the new payment processor they were launching, I think it was like 500 shares at $500 bucks. Never took them up on the offer though. QUOTE(cake again @ Feb 8 2006, 03:59 AM) [snapback]1137743[/snapback] Roachburger and Coke, please! S camming T rash O wns R acetrack - M y P rofits A nd Y ours Nice one cake again! .gif) Nice to see you around. I have to go to sleep now, I hope I won't dream about my 5 pending cashouts from about 13k$ anymore. Wish me a good rest . Hope to get some good news tomorrow. 
QUOTE(Stelistu @ Feb 7 2006, 05:55 PM) [snapback]1137718[/snapback] i give up you are right, if they give 12dp's money back,and die after, they can be united states president to..in their next life, preferably have you seen training day?
It's been an hour since Charis posted:
Hi... I wanted to let you know that there will be a statement released in the member news area within an hour with an update on communications between StormPay and 12daily Pro attornies. It will also be posted here on the forum. This statement will address the resolution of the freeze on 12dp's StormPay account by attornies for both parties. It will also address the StormPay account issues many of you have experienced today. We ask that you please not remain logged in here to the forum for extended periods as it is causing periodic overloads on the servers. Please check back for the statement mentioned above in about an hour. I hope knowing a statement is coming can help relieve some of your confusion and concern. any second now that means.
scampay took 3400 out of my account
is this what 8k a month hosting got them? Site Temporarily Unavailable Sorry, the site you requested is currently unavailable. It will be available as soon as possible. Please try again later. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Generated Wed, 08 Feb 2006 02:07:03 GMT by Prolexic.com (SI4MIA1/3.0) QUOTE(nuk @ Feb 7 2006, 09:02 PM) [snapback]1137758[/snapback] If she is investing member money, she is running an illegal investment program due to the fact the 12DP is not registered to take investments and she is not licensed to make investments for others. NUK Nuk, that isnt true, she would have to promise you she was investing your money and promise she was paying you a percent based on that. All companies use your money.
Over 2,400 people on the official 12dp forums, haha.. everybody's anxious to see what she's got in store for us.
hmmm so havn't that hour passed yet charis ?
QUOTE(nuk @ Feb 7 2006, 09:02 PM) [snapback]1137758[/snapback] If she is investing member money, she is running an illegal investment program due to the fact the 12DP is not registered to take investments and she is not licensed to make investments for others. NUK We signed up as members, not as investors... She is reinvesting the money in whatever then that is fine. She is not brokering investments in our name. There is a large difference here. QUOTE(haloevo @ Feb 7 2006, 10:36 PM) [snapback]1137792[/snapback] Over 2,400 people on the official 12dp forums, haha.. everybody's anxious to see what she's got in store for us. Hope it is something good!!
While we're waitiing for the news, it might be a good time to call your bank and make sure ScamPay hasn't messed with your funds there too.
Just a thought. QUOTE(qluc @ Feb 7 2006, 05:35 PM) [snapback]1137560[/snapback] Can Stormpay do chargeback to the withdrawals to bank that's been cleared a month ago??? At this stage, believe the unbelievable because I think I have just about seen it all. I would contact my bank and make them aware of a fraudulent online payment processor called Stormpay if I were you. Make sure you put emphasis on the word "fraudulent".
I'm kind of confused. The homepage of 12DAP says "12daily Pro is a unique paid autosurf program managed by the online professionals of LifeClicks LLC. The LifeClicks team has a collective fourteen years of experience in the areas of marketing, advertising, media, and online investments." 14 years..I thought that LifeClicks was formed in Sept. 2005. So who else was involved with 12DP for the last 14 years? Or am I wrong about this?
QUOTE(El Moro @ Feb 8 2006, 02:06 AM) [snapback]1137797[/snapback] hmmm so havn't that hour passed yet charis ? LOL, whenever someone says within an hour they always mean in about 2! QUOTE(kellysartin @ Feb 7 2006, 06:08 PM) [snapback]1137812[/snapback] I'm kind of confused. The homepage of 12DAP says "12daily Pro is a unique paid autosurf program managed by the online professionals of LifeClicks LLC. The LifeClicks team has a collective fourteen years of experience in the areas of marketing, advertising, media, and online investments." 14 years..I thought that LifeClicks was formed in Sept. 2005. So who else was involved with 12DP for the last 14 years? Or am I wrong about this? 12dailypro debuted in April 2005.... QUOTE(kellysartin @ Feb 7 2006, 09:08 PM) [snapback]1137812[/snapback] I'm kind of confused. The homepage of 12DAP says "12daily Pro is a unique paid autosurf program managed by the online professionals of LifeClicks LLC. The LifeClicks team has a collective fourteen years of experience in the areas of marketing, advertising, media, and online investments." 14 years..I thought that LifeClicks was formed in Sept. 2005. So who else was involved with 12DP for the last 14 years? Or am I wrong about this? It means that the people involved in LifeClicks have a combined 14 years of experience in this field. It has nothing to do with how long the company has been around.
wow, now at over 2,500.. lol
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relying on scumpay to refund your money is futile. my bank informed me filling out my ach affadavit is a 100% assurance that my funds will be reversed. sometimes you just have to take matters into your own hands.
QUOTE(kellysartin @ Feb 8 2006, 03:08 AM) [snapback]1137812[/snapback] I'm kind of confused. The homepage of 12DAP says "12daily Pro is a unique paid autosurf program managed by the online professionals of LifeClicks LLC. The LifeClicks team has a collective fourteen years of experience in the areas of marketing, advertising, media, and online investments." 14 years..I thought that LifeClicks was formed in Sept. 2005. So who else was involved with 12DP for the last 14 years? Or am I wrong about this? It depends on how you see things. Say there is 14 members on the team with a COLLECTIVE experience, that only makes it 1 year each:-) QUOTE(madbob @ Feb 8 2006, 03:09 AM) [snapback]1137819[/snapback] LOL, whenever someone says within an hour they always mean in about 2! crap
Just finished surfing...lol
QUOTE(nuk @ Feb 7 2006, 05:37 PM) [snapback]1136593[/snapback] Oh please. What is she doing to get refunds for members? Having more meetings with attorneys, allegedly. Going to collect more money for a lawsuit that they would have already filed if they thought it was the smart thing to do? It's not HER money getting taken away, it's YOURS so you will have to be the ones to get it back because CHaris, Vinnie and the rest are wetting their pants wondering when the Feds will be visiting them. NUK Nuk'd - are you perhaps out of sorts because it is so dark and smelly where you keep your head? QUOTE(kellysartin @ Feb 7 2006, 09:08 PM) [snapback]1137812[/snapback] I'm kind of confused. The homepage of 12DAP says "12daily Pro is a unique paid autosurf program managed by the online professionals of LifeClicks LLC. The LifeClicks team has a collective fourteen years of experience in the areas of marketing, advertising, media, and online investments." 14 years..I thought that LifeClicks was formed in Sept. 2005. So who else was involved with 12DP for the last 14 years? Or am I wrong about this? The life clicks team has had 14 years of experience. This would mean that Charis and her staff have 14 years experience, not the company itself. |