This is what will be in Charis' announcement IMHO:
Stormpay has been putting back all the paid out money from the autosurfs. They haven't been stealing it. Now all the money is back in the AS, Stormpay will unfreeze all the AS accounts and refunds will proceed from there.
EMO will become 12DPs payment proccessor and the site will continue as normal, and will probably be bigger than ever as Charis will have proven that she will fight the "little people". Don't get me wrong here, I'm in Canada, and I AM NOT A RACIST!! Charis is black, and she is probably used to fighting, probably has been most of her life. She will win over all the doubters and naysayers.
The new LLC program will be huge.
Alien Trust will also go opn and be huge.
Dadndaves will continue as the most stable of them all.
All in all everything will not only get back to normal...it will be much stronger. Whatever doesn't kill ya, makes ya stronger!
believe it
cheers
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QUOTE(meal ticket @ Feb 7 2006, 05:17 PM) [snapback]1137396[/snapback] I wonder If I went to scampay and did a few scamclix, would they take that from me too??  All the $10 I had in sp was from clixing. They took it and zeroed my account. QUOTE(RakeMeHard @ Feb 7 2006, 08:17 PM) [snapback]1137394[/snapback] My roommate has called the FBI to report Charis and 12dp. His SP account was charged back for 12dp funds, but all his other 10 HYIPs/Autosurfs have not been touched. The FBI said that BOTH SP and 12dp will most likely be investigated (assuming there are enough complaints) And why would you file a complaint on 12DP when SP has announced to the world via ABC 4 news, the internet and via its own site told you that THEY have 12DP's money hostage ????? QUOTE(andyha @ Feb 7 2006, 06:21 PM) [snapback]1137432[/snapback] This is what will be in Charis' announcement IMHO: Stormpay has been putting back all the paid out money from the autosurfs. They haven't been stealing it. Now all the money is back in the AS, Stormpay will unfreeze all the AS accounts and refunds will proceed from there. EMO will become 12DPs payment proccessor and the site will continue as normal, and will probably be bigger than ever as Charis will have proven that she will fight the "little people". Don't get me wrong here, I'm in Canada, and I AM NOT A RACIST!! Charis is black, and she is probably used to fighting, probably has been most of her life. She will win over all the doubters and naysayers. The new LLC program will be huge. Alien Trust will also go opn and be huge. Dadndaves will continue as the most stable of them all. All in all everything will not only get back to normal...it will be much stronger. Whatever doesn't kill ya, makes ya stronger! believe it cheers Was thinking the same thing the whole day....just didn't want to get flamed for stating my opinion
This is like waiting for the OJ verdict...
QUOTE(RakeMeHard @ Feb 7 2006, 09:47 PM) [snapback]1137394[/snapback] My roommate has called the FBI to report Charis and 12dp. His SP account was charged back for 12dp funds, but all his other 10 HYIPs/Autosurfs have not been touched. The FBI said that BOTH SP and 12dp will most likely be investigated (assuming there are enough complaints) Ummm...I would think your roommate should have called the FBI on SP instead! What...is your roommate on glue or something????? 
QUOTE(RakeMeHard @ Feb 7 2006, 08:17 PM) [snapback]1137394[/snapback] My roommate has called the FBI to report Charis and 12dp. His SP account was charged back for 12dp funds, but all his other 10 HYIPs/Autosurfs have not been touched. The FBI said that BOTH SP and 12dp will most likely be investigated (assuming there are enough complaints) Your roommate is a  moron. If your roommate bothered to check before calling the feds he would have seen that it was SP that was doing the charge backs and not 12DP Charis.Your roommate is a genious.QUOTE(clockturns @ Feb 8 2006, 03:20 AM) [snapback]1137413[/snapback]  Your roommate is an idiot. Charis isn't the one doing the chargebacks.double that, don't file complains aginast 12dp....ir will ruin all
QUOTE(good2uuuu @ Feb 8 2006, 09:22 AM) [snapback]1137440[/snapback] All the $10 I had in sp was from clixing. They took it and zeroed my account. This is crazy stuff - the whole thing stinks like a rotting lion carcus ! 
QUOTE(good2uuuu @ Feb 7 2006, 08:22 PM) [snapback]1137440[/snapback] All the $10 I had in sp was from clixing. They took it and zeroed my account. Damn. $10 from stormclixing is very hard work. QUOTE(RakeMeHard @ Feb 7 2006, 06:17 PM) [snapback]1137394[/snapback] My roommate has called the FBI to report Charis and 12dp. His SP account was charged back for 12dp funds, but all his other 10 HYIPs/Autosurfs have not been touched. The FBI said that BOTH SP and 12dp will most likely be investigated (assuming there are enough complaints) Guys I dont' think he's serious....nobody is THAT stupid... 
QUOTE(good2uuuu @ Feb 7 2006, 09:52 PM) [snapback]1137440[/snapback] All the $10 I had in sp was from clixing. They took it and zeroed my account. That is aweful!  My gosh...scampay is digging its own grave!!
QUOTE(RakeMeHard @ Feb 7 2006, 08:17 PM) [snapback]1137394[/snapback] My roommate has called the FBI to report Charis and 12dp. His SP account was charged back for 12dp funds, but all his other 10 HYIPs/Autosurfs have not been touched. The FBI said that BOTH SP and 12dp will most likely be investigated (assuming there are enough complaints) Did your roommate read any of the posts before doing this. There are people who are having not only 12D charged back but HYIPS that are closed as well. Were is that money going. 
ANY new from EMO?
Could we received money back????????????????????????????????? QUOTE(andyha @ Feb 7 2006, 05:21 PM) [snapback]1137432[/snapback] This is what will be in Charis' announcement IMHO: Stormpay has been putting back all the paid out money from the autosurfs. They haven't been stealing it. Now all the money is back in the AS, Stormpay will unfreeze all the AS accounts and refunds will proceed from there. EMO will become 12DPs payment proccessor and the site will continue as normal, and will probably be bigger than ever as Charis will have proven that she will fight the "little people". Don't get me wrong here, I'm in Canada, and I AM NOT A RACIST!! Charis is black, and she is probably used to fighting, probably has been most of her life. She will win over all the doubters and naysayers. The new LLC program will be huge. Alien Trust will also go opn and be huge. Dadndaves will continue as the most stable of them all. All in all everything will not only get back to normal...it will be much stronger. Whatever doesn't kill ya, makes ya stronger! believe it cheers These all of my hopes... QUOTE(daudi81 @ Feb 7 2006, 05:25 PM) [snapback]1137477[/snapback] Guys I dont' think he's serious....nobody is THAT stupid... Yeah it better be a joke, otherwise this is by far the most dumb person on MMG!
stormpay is down again?
QUOTE(kyteflyer @ Feb 7 2006, 10:47 PM) [snapback]1137395[/snapback] Please note I said "seem". I have been reading forums all over, and my observations of the posts elsewhere have led me to that conclusion. I have not even attempted to keep up with the posts in this thread, because there is no possibility of doing so. The thread increases by hundreds of pages daily. If you read them all, you must not have time to do anything else. Having made no claim against 12DP/SP for your $$... there must have been somethign which drew you to their attention. Have you made a lot of money out of 12DP? There must be a commonality which all of you share... I thought I had it... so its something else. This activity on the part of Stormpay isnt random. Random or not, money in my account belongs to me, not stormpay. I should remind stormpay that I joined 12Daily Pro through their Stormclix site which they sanctioned and approved for advertising. They also made a big pile of money through their 6.9% fees, NetIBA certification, Debit Card, etc. all made while advertising the very sites they are now calling ponzis. It is a bit of a joke, isn't it?? I have not made big bucks from Daily Pro. My friends have made very little as well. We all got chargebacks and all our accounts are zero. QUOTE(saratonyn @ Feb 7 2006, 05:23 PM) [snapback]1137453[/snapback] This is like waiting for the OJ verdict... QUOTE(kyteflyer @ Feb 7 2006, 05:10 PM) [snapback]1137342[/snapback] Will those be the same ones howling about chargebacks now? The ones that tried to get the jump on everyone else, make a grab and run? I've been reading in forums all over and am seeing a common theme. The ones screaming the loudest are also those who have made the most, already, and are still trying chargebacks (and being charged back in return). When is enough, enough, I wonder. I'm sitting still and waiting. I may lose, I may not. I went into this with eyes wide open and the only thing I regret is the timing. It could have been good, shame I didnt know about it til 3 weeks ago. What are you talking about? How some people can make these types of assumptions are beyond me. The fact remains that Stormpay are a bunch of thieves. They have blatantly stolen money that is not theirs. So, maybe you should get your facts straight first before jumping in and posting the first thing that comes to mind. Yes, a big shame that you joined late, but then so did I, well better luck next time! QUOTE(daudi81 @ Feb 7 2006, 06:25 PM) [snapback]1137477[/snapback] Guys I dont' think he's serious....nobody is THAT stupid... Ya never know. Look at the stupid stunt Sh**Pay is trying to pull. The world is full of morons QUOTE(xvinhp @ Feb 8 2006, 01:27 AM) [snapback]1137493[/snapback] These all of my hopes... Don't get your hopes up - it just doesnt explain peoples accounts getting zeroed - why would someone who had $10 from Stormclix be zeroed? QUOTE(lcurthebest @ Feb 7 2006, 05:27 PM) [snapback]1137499[/snapback] stormpay is down again? Well, maybe when they come back the chargebacks would have disappeared and it would have all been a very bad nightmare.
QUOTE(lcurthebest @ Feb 7 2006, 08:27 PM) [snapback]1137499[/snapback] stormpay is down again? looks like they are down again. running off with our money after they did all the charge backs. 
I was charged back of 4,500, I think we will file a class action lawsuit with SCAMPAY.
CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT WITH SCAMPAY. ANYONE AGREES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! QUOTE(madbob @ Feb 7 2006, 08:30 PM) [snapback]1137515[/snapback] Don't get your hopes up - it just doesnt explain peoples accounts getting zeroed - why would someone who had $10 from Stormclix be zeroed? Wondering if after they take my stormclix money they will also refund the money i paid to them for others to click? hmmmm somehow i doubt it!
Today I received $8.64 and $86.4 from stormpay for 12dp charge back.
I made a withdrawal of $100+ to SPDC on 2nd Feb,today I found out the transaction was cancelled and the money was gone.
QUOTE(qluc @ Feb 7 2006, 08:19 PM) [snapback]1137409[/snapback] I made a small successful withdrawal from SP to my bank on Jan 3rd and JAn 11th, is it possible that Stormpay do a chargeback in these 2 withdrawals even though they've been cleared month ago? Can someone help? btw, i just found out my SP also been zeroed out  can someone help me with this answer?
QUOTE(daudi81 @ Feb 7 2006, 05:25 PM) [snapback]1137477[/snapback] Guys I dont' think he's serious....nobody is THAT stupid... Yes - some people really are THAT stupid..... QUOTE(coderx @ Feb 8 2006, 01:32 AM) [snapback]1137528[/snapback] looks like they are down again. running off with our money after they did all the charge backs. Geez, that must be the 123rd time they have run off with our money after the site is unavailable! QUOTE(NASH422 @ Feb 7 2006, 08:31 PM) [snapback]1137521[/snapback] I hope they go under and never recover.  I believe your wish will be granted.  I can't see any way ScumPay can recover from this PR nightmare.
Can Stormpay do chargeback to the withdrawals to bank that's been cleared a month ago???
QUOTE(qluc @ Feb 7 2006, 08:33 PM) [snapback]1137537[/snapback] can someone help me with this answer? I think you should watch your account because according to reports yes some peoples money has been pulled back from thier bank accounts. I cannot confirm that. QUOTE(anhonestliving @ Feb 7 2006, 01:30 PM) [snapback]1134381[/snapback] Ahhh....my very last bottle of scotch......careful now, oops! *smash*...oh well..... I have one, and I share...cheers.  Classy Lassie QUOTE(saratonyn @ Feb 8 2006, 01:34 AM) [snapback]1137547[/snapback] I believe your wish will be granted. I can't see any way ScumPay can recover from this PR nightmare. Me neither ..... just think of the deafening stampede to withdraw funds if they ever refunded everybodys money!
stormpay is denzel washington from training day..
QUOTE(scaredykat @ Feb 7 2006, 08:35 PM) [snapback]1137561[/snapback] I think you should watch your account because according to reports yes some peoples money has been pulled back from thier bank accounts. I cannot confirm that. I think i should go close my old my bank account tommorrow curse SP for all these troubles QUOTE(mlb5000 @ Feb 7 2006, 06:19 PM) [snapback]1136447[/snapback] Since when should we diversify payment processors? Apparently since now...
Don't know if this is old news already, but it's hard enough to read forward, much less back
BBB issues alert on StormPay Middle Tennessee chapter reports surge of complaints The Leaf-Chronicle The Better Business Bureau of Middle Tennessee today issued an alert regarding StormPay.com, an online payment processing business, in response to over 180 complaints filed since the end of January. “A review of complaints filed by users indicate that the company is holding in excess of $460,000,” explains BBB chapter President/CEO, Kathleen Calligan. The BBB said it has requested the assistance of federal authorities. Steve Girsky, StormPay owner, and John McConnell, president of the Clarksville-based business, are diverting the blame for the situation to a Web merchant with whom they’ve been associated, called “12dailypro,” which they say is being investigated by law enforcement. For more on the story, see tomorrow's edition of The Leaf-Chronicle. Originally published February 7, 2006
I sincerely and honestly hope those SCUMBAGS suffer for this !!
QUOTE(meal ticket @ Feb 7 2006, 07:17 PM) [snapback]1137396[/snapback] I wonder If I went to scampay and did a few scamclix, would they take that from me too?? Of course scumCrooks would sieze your scamClix I'm going to participate in the scamclix and donate my clixpay to charity. QUOTE(lifeless @ Feb 8 2006, 03:37 AM) [snapback]1137577[/snapback] stormpay is denzel washington from training day.. stormpay is doctor Octopus from spidermann 2 ....this means that at their end, they will returned the money forced bt the good guys(12dp attorneys )  
QUOTE(heatherphipps2 @ Feb 7 2006, 08:38 PM) [snapback]1137585[/snapback] Apparently since now... And remember to never, ever, ever, ever leave even one cent more than you have to in any online processor account. QUOTE(saratonyn @ Feb 7 2006, 08:40 PM) [snapback]1137606[/snapback] And remember to never, ever, ever, ever leave even one cent more than you have to in any online processor account. Well for the last two weeks I been trying to figure how anyone got money out of this processor/retailer/reseller whatever they are! Thats all I have seen is people trying to take thier money and finding out they took it back from them, it just wasnt as widespread and in your face as it has been today! QUOTE(proadco @ Feb 7 2006, 08:39 PM) [snapback]1137597[/snapback] Of course scumCrooks would sieze your scamClix I'm going to participate in the scamclix and donate my clixpay to charity. ScumCrooks & ScamClix!
i kinda want to thermite the CEO's car or something. chemistry=fun
Seems like the scamPay site down
I guess those lowlifes hatching on yet another plan to steal people's money... oh, well, where's the money to steal?? its only zeros now... QUOTE(madbob @ Feb 7 2006, 05:30 PM) [snapback]1137515[/snapback] Don't get your hopes up - it just doesnt explain peoples accounts getting zeroed - why would someone who had $10 from Stormclix be zeroed? I'll bet Stormpay got a deluge of Visa fraud claims from individuals and in the midst of negotiating with Chlaris they scrambled to zero out accounts to try to protect reserves from these chargebacks. I filed a claim through my bank today for $2000. Wells Fargo will probably pay it when they investigate and see all the sh__ hitting the fan. QUOTE(saratonyn @ Feb 7 2006, 08:40 PM) [snapback]1137606[/snapback] And remember to never, ever, ever, ever leave even one cent more than you have to in any online processor account. Good advice. I am only afraid for my bank account. I can't close it yet I have bills out. QUOTE(Pepper'n'Spice @ Feb 8 2006, 02:10 AM) [snapback]1137348[/snapback] Let's just say I'll believe it all when Charis shows me proof! And please don't compare McD's to 12dailypro, that like comparing a carrot to a kiwi fruit. If I wanted an annual report for McD's or IBM I could have it by the end of the week. Those companies are obligated to show their shareholders exactly what is going on. Charis on the other hand is still keeping her sources of income a big secret. Big difference, my friend! 1- You can find an annual report for McD but you can't find McD's recipes publicly. Those are considered McD's secrets. 2- The same applies to 12DP, you can find public information about where and how LifeClicks LLC is investing their money. What people are expecting from Charis is that she reveals how she can afford paying 12% daily profit. And that can be considered as her business secret. Just as McD never publicly publishes any secret recipes, Charis has no obligation to reveal her business secrets. |
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