Before you all start sending in mass support tickets, we have become aware of some discrepencies in members SP accounts. Since we are not able ourselves to login into our SP account at all, we have been kept on top of things through the account information and updates of friends, associates, and family members.
This morning many of these people reported to us that their account at SP was now at a $0 balance, when just last night it was showing a positive balance. When they checked the account history screen, it was showing chargebacks were made to whatever AS site they were sending funds to and receiving them from.
Before I continue let me just say one more time:
WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ACCESS WHATSOEVER TO OUR SP ACCOUNT. WE CANNOT EVEN LOG ON TO THE SITE, LET ALONE TO OUR ACCOUNT.
It appears that Storm Pay has decided that they have the right to move our funds and the funds of our members around as they see fit.
We are taking printouts of the account history screens to our lawyer, to add to the pile of other items. This is the most bold and outrageous stunt yet. Not only do we have no control over the money in our accounts, apparently neither do many of our members.
We will not put up with this!
We will update all of you again very soon.
Stephanie
Just Recieve from Alien Trust
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QUOTE(mlb5000 @ Feb 7 2006, 09:26 PM) [snapback]1134906[/snapback] I have $0.58. It's a balance, although not much. I had 66 $ in 12dp and i am very angry when the money is away.
ScumPay had better start talking NOW!!
  
QUOTE(sakul1 @ Feb 7 2006, 03:18 PM) [snapback]1134848[/snapback] You're wrong. This is George Bush's USA! It would be like investigating a bunch of grow-ops in the hood, while putting up posters telling the local stoners their is an investigation going on..  and both abcnews and stormpay said it was an active investigation by outside forces and the AG... BUT THEY ARE LIARS RIGHT! but aren't we supposed to be the "innocent victims" and the site admins the evil scammers? QUOTE(nuk @ Feb 7 2006, 03:04 PM) [snapback]1134692[/snapback] It looks rather obvious that SuckPay is putting actions behind their words recently about ponzis and returning all money they think is dirty straight back to the admins' accts that are frozen. This way they can say *we're doing our job to not be a ponzi conduit* Then they tell the Feds the total money in those admins' accounts and let the Feds kick the admin's asses all over the place. Ruthless move by ScumPay before they die off. Better not sleep in Clarksville tonight Girsky and McConnell because stuff like this can attract attention of the homicidal kind. Lots of individuals have been looted. NUK Their terms of service say they can hold fraudulent money, if they are reversing your payments all the way back to december they will be reversing them back to forever and then you will be in the red and they will be trying to get this money back from your banks as well! They really should stop right now, as frozen means just that! I think at this time the FBI needs to issue a cease and desist to SP
If there was any doubt that ScamPay would be going out of business because of this mess, this latest move should remove all doubt. No one in their right mind could ever trust ScamPay again...
Lesson #7,835 learned from this fiasco: Never, ever, ever leave any money in an online pay processor account. QUOTE(sakul1 @ Feb 7 2006, 03:12 PM) [snapback]1134782[/snapback] I vote for NUKs theory.. they are refunding money to the AS/HYIP accoutns to show the MAN that they are doing something about it, while passing the buck to the admins of the programs.. There probably won't be any refunds at all folks, short of a class action lawsuit months or years away I fear.. anyone still think the FEDS aren't involved? The feds would have frozen everything! taken all the computers too, yes even hosted servers, and no admins from anywhere would be able to be playing god banker like this.... QUOTE(pete72 @ Feb 7 2006, 12:28 PM) [snapback]1134913[/snapback] What worries a little bit about this is that a legal eagle heads stormapy doesn't he. If this is the case he must be sure in what he is doing or he would be in dnager of losing his licence  His licence is the last thing he is going to worry about right now, he better hold on to his head with all this furiouse member who won't be having dinner tonight
OMG!!!!
they Cancelled my withdraw and gave 12daily pro $66 even though i only had $6 invested into them..WTF!!!!..also now my account is 0.00, it use to have 7cents in it..
QUOTE(Wasee @ Feb 7 2006, 05:54 PM) [snapback]1134888[/snapback] 4 Beautifull name assigned to stormpay SuckingPay StupidPay StinkyPay ScamPay (-_-) Oh my, I am experiencing Dejevu. I have been down this road just recently. I am now waiting for the " Our site has been hacked" scenario. I don't expect to get any monies owed to me. If I get paid, it will definitely be a bonus. I am in Canada. Our bank will not do chargebacks because of the user agreement in scampay that states they are reseller and all sales final.
BTW I would suggest all of you run xoftspy and spybot search and destroy if you have them because in the last 24 horus my systme has somehow been infected by two keyloggers!
QUOTE(pete72 @ Feb 7 2006, 03:28 PM) [snapback]1134913[/snapback] What worries a little bit about this is that a legal eagle heads stormapy doesn't he. If this is the case he must be sure in what he is doing or he would be in dnager of losing his licence He probably has enough of our money to last his 3 lifetimes so who cares about his license?
How do you cancel or delete your credit card in SP? I can't find a delete button anywhere.
what are you talking there ain't any bucks... whatever they can not take members money and this SP story should go to ABC4 and to CNN and Fox and .....
Also copied from another forum:
www.stormpayfraud.com Stormpay's bank. You can call if you have a check to find out if it's good. Legends Bank 310 North First Street Clarksville, TN 37040 Phone: (931) 503-1234 Fax: (931) 920-0099 Telephone Banking: 1-866-367-6708 email address: customerservice@legendsbank.com QUOTE(scaredykat @ Feb 7 2006, 03:31 PM) [snapback]1134941[/snapback] The feds would have frozen everything! taken all the computers too, yes even hosted servers, and no admins from anywhere would be able to be playing god banker like this.... thats what I've been getting at...all operations no matter how small would cease. QUOTE(IMSGold @ Feb 7 2006, 09:15 PM) [snapback]1134814[/snapback] Your posts are really stupid!!! Just recently you posted that SP released the funds of frozen accounts and now you come up with this crap!!! I never received a refund of any kind!! They Cancelled my last cheque withdrawal which had nothing to do with money earned in HYIP's or 12 Daily!!! There is no logic to how they are doing these chargebacks except to get SP members accounts down to ZERO or as close to ZERO as they can!!! This is not right and is pure theft!!! If you think any different then you need some serious professional help!!! Tyler IMSGold Totaly agree with you.. I can't belive that somone can think diferently about the situation... ghhhhhhhhhh... ohhhhhhh.... that sucks.. QUOTE(pete72 @ Feb 7 2006, 12:28 PM) [snapback]1134913[/snapback] What worries a little bit about this is that a legal eagle heads stormapy doesn't he. If this is the case he must be sure in what he is doing or he would be in dnager of losing his licence Losing his license? At this point I think he's taking out all the stops. His actions are of a man not concerned with his illegal practises, but preparing to run when need be and covering his *ss as much as possible in the meantime QUOTE(speedbump @ Feb 7 2006, 03:33 PM) [snapback]1134967[/snapback] Oh my, I am experiencing Dejevu. I have been down this road just recently. I am now waiting for the " Our site has been hacked" scenario. I don't expect to get any monies owed to me. If I get paid, it will definitely be a bonus. I am in Canada. Our bank will not do chargebacks because of the user agreement in scampay that states they are reseller and all sales final. oh i think sp will be claim hackers myself....glad someone esle brought it up, after all if HYIPs can do it why not them! QUOTE(onlinearnings @ Feb 7 2006, 01:49 PM) [snapback]1134541[/snapback] NOPE ME EITHER, this is money that 12 DP paid me and now I will never see it. wonder if this is happening with AT, just seems to be a 12 DP problem no? My Suckpay account had a chargeback from a payment I received from them so it is something that is happening across the board and not just at 12DP QUOTE(Kruise @ Feb 7 2006, 03:34 PM) [snapback]1134973[/snapback] How do you cancel or delete your credit card in SP? I can't find a delete button anywhere. the credit card button is next to the auto pay button, as for bank account there is no delete! QUOTE(scaredykat @ Feb 7 2006, 06:03 PM) [snapback]1134969[/snapback] BTW I would suggest all of you run xoftspy and spybot search and destroy if you have them because in the last 24 horus my systme has somehow been infected by two keyloggers! Have you been to any conference sites recently. QUOTE(scaredykat @ Feb 7 2006, 01:33 PM) [snapback]1134969[/snapback] BTW I would suggest all of you run xoftspy and spybot search and destroy if you have them because in the last 24 horus my systme has somehow been infected by two keyloggers! gotta love linux.... 
Sweetness...Just terminated my stormpay account. Go into profile/edit on the left and hit terminate account.
QUOTE(Kruise @ Feb 7 2006, 06:04 PM) [snapback]1134973[/snapback] How do you cancel or delete your credit card in SP? I can't find a delete button anywhere. I think you can go to deposit funds. That is where your credit card info is. There should be a delete credit card info in there. QUOTE(scaredykat @ Feb 7 2006, 03:30 PM) [snapback]1134931[/snapback] Their terms of service say they can hold fraudulent money, if they are reversing your payments all the way back to december they will be reversing them back to forever and then you will be in the red and they will be trying to get this money back from your banks as well! They really should stop right now, as frozen means just that! I think at this time the FBI needs to issue a cease and desist to SP is that what they are doing? Reversing earnings or payments from every autosurf or HYIP until who knows when until they zero everyone out. Nice way to make everyone go even more totally ape****.
i just called mastercard and they hav'nt heard anything about this issue. but i did make sure to block them from taking anything from my account.
finally...I caught up with the end of the thread.
QUOTE(daudi81 @ Feb 7 2006, 12:40 PM) [snapback]1135019[/snapback] Sweetness...Just terminated my stormpay account. Go into profile/edit on the left and hit terminate account. how do u know they still dont have your bank info??
Just logged in to my SP Account also
Balance $0,00 Chargeback - 12DP But there were funds that were not earned through 12DP they just took the lot. Not happy Jan!!!!!! Sachiel
I got $5 that Stormpay will claim they were hacked.
I'll be paying by Stormpay by the way.
QUOTE(Nils @ Feb 7 2006, 01:35 PM) [snapback]1134987[/snapback] Totaly agree with you.. I can't belive that somone can think diferently about the situation... ghhhhhhhhhh... ohhhhhhh.... that sucks.. it will all come down to "proceeds of a crime"..
just a note, they have not touched my account at present. Maybe because I never recieved any payments from anyone but them? but no refunds either and I funded 12dp on 1/30/06
so are they doing this randomly? yes! there seems no method to this madness QUOTE(daudi81 @ Feb 7 2006, 12:40 PM) [snapback]1135019[/snapback] Sweetness...Just terminated my stormpay account. Go into profile/edit on the left and hit terminate account. By terminating your account you just remove the very slight possibility of getting your money back 
QUOTE(Kruise @ Feb 8 2006, 07:34 AM) [snapback]1134973[/snapback] How do you cancel or delete your credit card in SP? I can't find a delete button anywhere. Do you think it will make a diffrence? They will have it on record. QUOTE(speedbump @ Feb 7 2006, 12:38 PM) [snapback]1135009[/snapback] Have you been to any conference sites recently. why? uh .. i have .. and the links came from some of the programs here .. is there something i should be worried about these conference sites? QUOTE(she @ Feb 7 2006, 03:35 PM) [snapback]1134979[/snapback] Also copied from another forum: www.stormpayfraud.com Stormpay's bank. You can call if you have a check to find out if it's good. Legends Bank 310 North First Street Clarksville, TN 37040 Phone: (931) 503-1234 Fax: (931) 920-0099 Telephone Banking: 1-866-367-6708 email address: customerservice@legendsbank.com Thanks! If they are physically located in Clarksville, TN, then there must be some MMG members here living nearby the location. Pay a visit there, would someone!? At least we'll know if Feds are involved and/or raid is going on. I personally prefer the scary dude Nuk pays them a visit with that mask!
my balance is now $0.00
LOOK  they took more then what I paid 12daily pro with, they stole my money!!! QUOTE(nursepower @ Feb 8 2006, 07:41 AM) [snapback]1135036[/snapback] I got $5 that Stormpay will claim they were hacked. I'll be paying by Stormpay by the way. Very funny. 
Stormpay is the biggest pile of BS EVER!!!
They took ALL my Stormpay money and sent it to 50c2s!!! I havent been in 50c2s since last October!!! And they charged back MORE money than the money 50c2s paid me for my test spend. They are doing this thing very randomly. Sh1tPay is just that, a BIG PILE OF S  T!!!
what da heck all this??? now my sp account $0
QUOTE(pete72 @ Feb 7 2006, 12:42 PM) [snapback]1135041[/snapback] By terminating your account you just remove the very slight possibility of getting your money back Just thinking the same....perhaps they just send a cheque, with a complimentary box of chocolates? QUOTE(nursepower @ Feb 7 2006, 09:41 PM) [snapback]1135036[/snapback] I got $5 that Stormpay will claim they were hacked. I'll be paying by Stormpay by the way. lol 
QUOTE(scaredykat @ Feb 7 2006, 03:31 PM) [snapback]1134941[/snapback] The feds would have frozen everything! taken all the computers too, yes even hosted servers, and no admins from anywhere would be able to be playing god banker like this.... I think the very real possibility that the feds MIGHT be getting involved predicated this pre-emptive move by SP to return all money that they can directly trace to an autosurf or hyip recently. Or, it's SP's way of saying FU as they rapidly die and they plan to go to the Feds themselves. Someone at SpoogePay realized that it looks pretty stupid to have all these accounts with autosurf/hyip profits in them while they are running around claiming to not be involved in those schemes any longer. Poof! Send the money back to admins for the last month or two and claim everything before then was probably legit. SP is still going under but now the owners are scrambling to avoid much worse consequences. NUK QUOTE($Maker @ Feb 7 2006, 03:43 PM) [snapback]1135051[/snapback] Thanks! If they are physically located in Clarksville, TN, then there must be some MMG members here living nearby the location. Pay a visit there, would someone!? At least we'll know if Feds are involved and/or raid is going on. I personally prefer the scary dude Nuk pays them a visit with that mask! If the feds were involved you would NOT be able to log onto any of the sites involved and especially not SP! They may get involved quickly when Visa gets tired of seeing stormpay on chargebacks though! QUOTE(speedbump @ Feb 7 2006, 03:15 PM) [snapback]1134811[/snapback] All I did was go into Deposit funds. Your credit card info is there . Click on delete credit card info. Gone. I hope. Not credit card... Bank account information... I don't have a credit card listed with SP.
someone quick. I need stormpay's phone number
QUOTE(R33z @ Feb 7 2006, 01:44 PM) [snapback]1135059[/snapback] what da heck all this??? now my sp account $0 You and everybody else.... Even payments that were en route to banks were taken back. Checks cancelled...ect. QUOTE(pete72 @ Feb 7 2006, 01:42 PM) [snapback]1135041[/snapback] By terminating your account you just remove the very slight possibility of getting your money back I don't have any money to earn back. My 12dp earnings got into my stormpay account a day before this mess started. I withdrew everything to my bank account. My stormpay is sitting at 0. Just terminated the account because I'm tired of this stormpay stuff. I'm sticking with egold QUOTE(she @ Feb 7 2006, 03:35 PM) [snapback]1134979[/snapback] Also copied from another forum: www.stormpayfraud.com Stormpay's bank. You can call if you have a check to find out if it's good. Legends Bank 310 North First Street Clarksville, TN 37040 Phone: (931) 503-1234 Fax: (931) 920-0099 Telephone Banking: 1-866-367-6708 email address: customerservice@legendsbank.com Thanks! If they are physically located in Clarksville, TN, then there must be some MMG members here living nearby the location. Pay a visit there, would someone!? At least we'll know if Feds are involved and/or raid is going on. I personally prefer the scary dude Nuk pays them a visit with that mask! |
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