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i just wake up and this one moved to on hold .. sure there was a lot of post ... can someone explain to me?
QUOTE(gauranggupta @ Jan 7 2006, 06:56 AM) [snapback]797119[/snapback] i say 3000 pages mid-feb , any more guesses?? Turns out it was the beginning of feb.  
give that man a beer!!
.gif) QUOTE(haloevo @ Feb 4 2006, 04:44 PM) [snapback]1101694[/snapback] I'm tired. I sent it out. Lets see what they've got to say about it. Thanks for the help guys, and thanks for the compliments on the email to abc4.  Hope they reply quickly... or at all for that matter.QUOTE(haloevo @ Feb 4 2006, 12:30 AM) [snapback]1101625[/snapback] this has also been added. The e-mail to be sent to ABC4 News thus far: Anything else? Very good write up but I have a suggestion, maybe have as all put are names down as a petition whoever wants to, instead of just making it sound like MMG as a whole is against SP and so on. I think with enough names it will be more recognized as something they really need to take serious. Just a suggestion
12 Daily Pro Shuts Down; Investors Wait For Money
LAST UPDATE: 2/4/2006 2:10:07 AM Watch Video An alleged get-rich-quick program included in an ABC4 News investigation has apparently shut down. 12 Daily Pro sent an e-mail to its memberships early Friday morning, saying their organization is being "misrepresented". The e-mail claims some members, including Utah college students, made unspecified false claims. Because of that, and a vague reference to questions being raised by authorities, it's temporary closed up shop. The "Utah" college students mentioned are apparently BYU students. As ABC4 News reported Thursday night, Ned Hill, Dean of BYU's Marriott School of Business became alarmed that some of his students were promoting what he believed was a risky, unethical and possibly illegal enterprise. A memo from Dean Hill warned those students they are in danger of being expelled. Since then, Charis Johnson, the only named principal in 12 Daily Pro and it's parent company, Lifeclick LLC, has sent an e-mail to members saying "due to the questions raised...we feel...it is best to stop accepting upgrade purchases..." What's more, the online clearinghouse handling money transfers for 12 Daily Pro, Storm Pay, has frozen its accounts. Here's Storm Pay's explanation: "Investigations by both Storm Pay and other outside investigational organizations and law enforcement agencies have drawn early conclusions that these types of programs are nothing more than well hidden ponzi or pyramid schemes." The letter goes on to say that accounts will remain frozen "until all legal matters are resolved." That leaves 12 Daily Pro without access to member's money, and that...more than anything done by BYU students or said by their dean is probably the reason 12 Daily Pro is no longer accepting upgrades...or even new memberships. To earn 44%... here's what 12 daily pro says you have to do: Give them your money...six to six thousand dollars, download it's auto-surf program and use it once a day for 12 days. One click and it does all the work -- usually in less than five minutes. You don't even have to watch if you don't want to. ABC4 has tried to reach representatives of 12 Daily Pro for their side of the story. Charis Johnson is the administrator...her appartment address in Charlotte, North Carolina was apparently used on incorporation papers filed last September, and her name was on today's e-mail. In that e-mail, she pledged to cooperate with any authorities that may want to ask questions, but that apparently does not mean ABC4 News. So far, Johnson has not responded to voice messages left by ABC4 News. Charis Johnson has also been invited to produce a detailed prospectus showing how 12 Daily Pro can make enough money to pay out 44 percent interest in 12 days. Of all the emails and phone calls received by ABC4 News from angry 12 Daily Pro members, no one has come close to an explanation of how the program can provide a 44 percent return on membership investment. What may be more disturbing is the fact that some 12 Daily Pro members have actually told ABC4 News they "don't care" where the money comes from. A call to the attorneys general in both North Carolina and Georgia confirm that they have active investigations into 12 Daily Pro. Story by: Brent Hunsaker/ABC4 News Staff Did you guys read the Due Diligence Brent Hunsaker stated above as if abc4 shut down 12dpro, lmao. Then states you have to download 12dpro to use. lol Hunsaker really showed the lack of due diligence. Brent must be a product of the media department of BYU lead by Dean Hill.
coz of the current problems..if everything solves, admin wld move it back to autosurf..
QUOTE(R33z @ Feb 4 2006, 04:45 PM) [snapback]1101702[/snapback] i just wake up and this one moved to on hold .. sure there was a lot of post ... can someone explain to me? QUOTE(ryans32 @ Feb 4 2006, 03:43 AM) [snapback]1101693[/snapback] 113 Members are surfing this Forum and no one can answer me????  Please explain how to do a charge back? What do we tell our credit cards?tell them you bought some ad but the merchant's account was frozen by stormpay.
I thought I would give a little hope. I just received a payment for
an Jan 8, e-gold in my EMO account. It isn't dead yet!!! QUOTE(haloevo @ Feb 4 2006, 04:30 AM) [snapback]1101625[/snapback] this has also been added. The e-mail to be sent to ABC4 News thus far: Anything else? just found the bbb link for stormpay http://data.middletennessee.bbb.org/common...tml?bid=2146166 and the old matrix scheme is TymGlobal and the cached link is http://web.archive.org/web/20030424075525/.../tymglobal.com/ ok, i am really mad at SP now, i officially broke my ENTER key on my keyboard  coco
Well... we can make a petition to sign at www.petitiononline.com and those who agree to my e-mail can sign the petition. How does that sound?
Thank you... so my claim should be against Stormpay not 12DP correct?
QUOTE(ryans32 @ Feb 4 2006, 03:43 PM) [snapback]1101693[/snapback] 113 Members are surfing this Forum and no one can answer me???? Please explain how to do a charge back? What do we tell our credit cards?i think one of the reply on this thread have that, but i don't know the link, because this thread become so many reply. Are you have energy to see page by page ? 
btw, as was discussed in here last night......after many people calling that ABC so-called news team, they are already reading mmg.
now maybe they should read closer and actually learn something....
Well it seems SP wasn't lying about an outside investigation. In that last clip they did mention 2 attorney generals investigating 12DP. It makes sense now, how do you go trying to monopolize all autosurfs on monday, then freezing almost all their accounts and messing up your business 2 days later? No one shoots themselves in the foot like that. Stormpay's smarter than that. They know no future autosurf or hyip will ever use them again. I believe they had no choice but to do what they did to save themselves. As far as the funds not being there? Maybe, but why freeze other autosurfs who were not attempting to pull out millions? It's all too much of a coincidense. First the freeze, then the news story with SP looking so good and responsible. They knew somthing, and that's why they took action so suddenly, a day before the news event. I'm starting to think this war is not between 12DP and SP, but maybe the government and 12DP? And SP is just the middle man, trying to play dumb and look good for the feds. Believe me, SP doesn't want this as much as we don't. Not with the kind of money they were making off these programs.
QUOTE(GettingRicher @ Feb 4 2006, 02:07 PM) [snapback]1101662[/snapback] Ya its wonderful how the loss of 6k brings me closer to all you guys.  I need a hug  QUOTE(ryans32 @ Feb 4 2006, 03:49 AM) [snapback]1101728[/snapback] Thank you... so my claim should be against Stormpay not 12DP correct? sure stormpay who charged your CC!!!! QUOTE(ryans32 @ Feb 4 2006, 12:49 AM) [snapback]1101728[/snapback] Thank you... so my claim should be against Stormpay not 12DP correct? http://talkgold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68613&page=9 QUOTE(Kruise @ Feb 4 2006, 12:50 AM) [snapback]1101733[/snapback] Well it seems SP wasn't lying about an outside investigation. In that last clip they did mention 2 attorney generals investigating 12DP. It makes sense now, how do you go trying to monopolize all autosurfs on monday, then freezing almost all their accounts and messing up your business 2 days later? No one shoots themselves in the foot like that. Stormpay's smarter than that. They know no future autosurf or hyip will ever use them again. I believe they had no choice but to do what they did to save themselves. As far as the funds not being there? Maybe, but why freeze other autosurfs who were not attempting to pull out millions? It's all too much of a coincidense. First the freeze, then the news story with SP looking so good and responsible. They knew somthing, and that's why they took action so suddenly, a day before the news event. I'm starting to think this war is not between 12DP and SP, but maybe the government and 12DP? And SP is just the middle man, trying to play dumb and look good for the feds. Believe me, SP doesn't want this as much as we don't. Not with the kind of money they were making off these programs. Sounds like bingo was his name-o QUOTE(coco @ Feb 4 2006, 12:49 AM) [snapback]1101726[/snapback] just found the bbb link for stormpay http://data.middletennessee.bbb.org/common...tml?bid=2146166 and the old matrix scheme is TymGlobal and the cached link is http://web.archive.org/web/20030424075525/.../tymglobal.com/ ok, i am really mad at SP now, i officially broke my ENTER key on my keyboard coco Well its a good thing you have two of them then. 
QUOTE(aer @ Feb 4 2006, 03:52 AM) [snapback]1101745[/snapback] sure stormpay who charged your CC!!!! Stormpay made the charge, but I am worried that they will tell my Credit Company that 12DP is the SCAM and then my file will be dropped.
We'll see what happens in the morning.
Night all.
Well, if anyone needs more proof that Stormpay is hardly on the up-and-up itself, here's a link to one of the C&D orders against them:
http://tennessee.gov/commerce/securities/d...bal08072003.pdf QUOTE(Kruise @ Feb 4 2006, 03:50 AM) [snapback]1101733[/snapback] Well it seems SP wasn't lying about an outside investigation. In that last clip they did mention 2 attorney generals investigating 12DP. It makes sense now, how do you go trying to monopolize all autosurfs on monday, then freezing almost all their accounts and messing up your business 2 days later? No one shoots themselves in the foot like that. Stormpay's smarter than that. They know no future autosurf or hyip will ever use them again. I believe they had no choice but to do what they did to save themselves. As far as the funds not being there? Maybe, but why freeze other autosurfs who were not attempting to pull out millions? It's all too much of a coincidense. First the freeze, then the news story with SP looking so good and responsible. They knew somthing, and that's why they took action so suddenly, a day before the news event. I'm starting to think this war is not between 12DP and SP, but maybe the government and 12DP? And SP is just the middle man, trying to play dumb and look good for the feds. Believe me, SP doesn't want this as much as we don't. Not with the kind of money they were making off these programs. I have a friend who is unable to withdraw $15K and it wasn't from an autosurf. SP will not respond to any emails with an explanation. Either way, Charis and her attorney's believe her business plan is legal. If not, the Attorney generals will step in. Might take some fighting on her part. This is a waiting game now. Like the grains of sand running through an hourglass so are the days of our lives-or something like that. It's been a while. lol Jeff
How Charis will know who amongst the SP members were paid after SP decide to give her a full access to her account?
When SP admin will pay the 12dp members, I´m not sure the payouts would be on a "processed" status automatically! What a BIG MESS!!!!
I really really dont understand after watching the clip!!!!!!!!!! come on 12dailypro is PAYING!!! PAYING!! PAYING!!! i have never gotten a payment late from them ever!!! Why doesnt the authorities investigate autosurfs or HYIPS that just scoot off with the cash in a matter of months!!
Why 12daily ????!!!!! i dont live in the US and im really amazed at the kind of things america does. so now Stormpay seems to be telling the truth and 12daily are made to look like a scam. what a change in a matter of hours!!! btw , is abc4 news reliable??? i have never heard of them. sorry like i said , im not american. QUOTE(haloevo @ Feb 4 2006, 12:55 AM) [snapback]1101764[/snapback] We'll see what happens in the morning. Night all. Good night man. We all here at MMG appreciate your hard work in this matter.
Noooooooooo! I don't want to see 12dp in this secton...
too much surfing on here, posting pics, emails, my job is done for the night
hope for better news tomorrow NIGHT QUOTE(ryans32 @ Feb 4 2006, 12:49 AM) [snapback]1101728[/snapback] Thank you... so my claim should be against Stormpay not 12DP correct? correct
And to add on to my earlier post , i feel really sorry for Charis that she has to go through all this despite having one of the most professional sites ever.
My heart goes out to you even though i have not gotten any concrete profits from the program ( thanks to the freezing!!) QUOTE(arkangel @ Feb 4 2006, 05:00 PM) [snapback]1101791[/snapback] I really really dont understand after watching the clip!!!!!!!!!! come on 12dailypro is PAYING!!! PAYING!! PAYING!!! i have never gotten a payment late from them ever!!! Why doesnt the authorities investigate autosurfs or HYIPS that just scoot off with the cash in a matter of months!! Why 12daily ????!!!!! i dont live in the US and im really amazed at the kind of things america does. so now Stormpay seems to be telling the truth and 12daily are made to look like a scam. what a change in a matter of hours!!! btw , is abc4 news reliable??? i have never heard of them. sorry like i said , im not american. Someone is trying to avert their responsibilities by setting other ppl up here by getting media attention to divert our attention. With 12DP nailed they can easily get away with the $$$ score free and legally! All of us here need to get together to think of something. Even we can't get back our money, we cannot let them go just like this!
QUOTE(DaBadGuy @ Feb 4 2006, 01:02 AM) [snapback]1101806[/snapback] Noooooooooo! I don't want to see 12dp in this secton... Yes that was my thought as I woke up, opened the "paidsurfing" and no 12dp on the top like usual  also no alientrust and some other big popular autosurfs... well, I am really shocked...don't know what to say. it seems like a never ending nightmare for me sorry, but that's all I can say 
haloevo
Can´t you putt the letter in here so we all can sign it? QUOTE(ryans32 @ Feb 4 2006, 02:53 AM) [snapback]1101755[/snapback] Stormpay made the charge, but I am worried that they will tell my Credit Company that 12DP is the SCAM and then my file will be dropped. That really shouldn't matter, should it? (ok it may not work like this but it's fun to think on it...) Let's pretend that SP is a bank. <grinning> ...I go to the bank with my credit card and slide it in the ATM machine and pull out 200 bucks. ...then while I'm counting the money I say 'boy I can't wait to get down to the crack house and get a hookup!' All of a sudden the bank manager runs out there and snatches my money and tells me that it's against their policy to despense cash for illlegal use. Then he stuffs the cash in his pocket as he walks back in. Wether I was going to buy crack or I was just saying that out loud to entertain myself is irrelevant, the fact is that he has my money. Frozen. In his pocket. I'm sure the CC company might find his theft offensive too. ...sounds good anyway and I've entertained myself for a few minutes....
Well, not everywhere does 12dailypro get bad press: Here's what I found on some pretty recent news channel:
PRWEB) - Kansas City, MO (PRWEB) January 31, 2006 -- The 12 Daily Pro System, is called a 100% Automated Home Business and is promoted as €œHands Free Income.€ All you have to do is view a few Websites and you make money. ADVERTISEMENT According to Jim Mack of http://www.whoisjimmack.com fame and those who are now using this system, €œIt creates a level playing field for all those wishing success in internet business.€ Jim Mack, being an expert in direct sales and internet marketing with full knowledge of companies such as Alien Trust, 15 Daily Up, Coastal Club (Coastal Vacations), Emerald Passport, Profit Masters, Eventis and International Galleries, €œthis system was created so anyone could have success". Unlike most US and Canada type companies, 12 Daily Pro is also supposed to work anywhere on the globe. In fact, the top earners are showing off their payouts to make every that is a bit skeptical, feel easy about becoming part of the program. Jim Mack, an 18 year Direct Sales Industry Veteran, Sales Trainer and author had bold comments about 12 Daily Pro: "It sounded like hype and I almost missed it. I was one click away from missing the most lucrative opportunity I have seen in 12 years. I thank God I took the system for a free €œtest drive.€ He further said, €œThis is the first business I have seen since I started direct sales that, literally, my 73-year-old mother could do. That says a lot." Jim€™s comment regarding the choice of name for this major portal of the 12 Daily Pro System, <edit: url removed> , was, €œI know its funny, but it was really the only name that would fit, because there really is nothing to do. They do your advertising, follow up and everything, you just collect the commissions. That€™s what got me. I get paid big money for surfing the internet." Having heard this kind of thing before, we peeled back the onion. What we found was for starters is, all the marketing is done by the company via a heavy advertising budget utilized in Search Engine-Professionally Optimized, websites, competitive key word, Pay-Per-Click Advertising and many other varied forms of media so the word does get out there. Barriers such as advertising, follow-up, and €œclosing the deal.€ which have always been a challenge for marketers are all addressed by this system. 12 Daily Pro is reported to be a €œmarketing system itself€ whose purpose is to promote any other business or website. It€™s said, this is €œideal, for businesses such as Emerald Passport, Profit Masters, Eventis, Mentors On A Mission, Coastal Vacations, Liberty League International, Advantage Conferences, International Galleries and Success University just to name a few as a supplement or full time income.€ The 12 Daily Pro System, is called a 100% Automated Home Business and is promoted as €œHands Free Income.€ All you have to do is view a few websites and you make money. Barriers such as advertising, follow-up, and €œclosing the deal.€ which have always been a challenge for marketers are all addressed by this system. If you€™d like to learn more about the 12 Daily Pro System, contact Jim Mack at 913-375-0052 visit his site at <edit: url removed> and http://www.whoisjimmack.com <edit: url removed> . Jim says €œClick around, take a look at the forums and see all the people that are getting paid. ### JAYMACK TRUST, LLC Jim Mack 913-375-0052 E-mail Information QUOTE(Aeriennet @ Feb 4 2006, 01:16 PM) [snapback]1101881[/snapback] haloevo Can´t you putt the letter in here so we all can sign it? 
QUOTE(DaBadGuy @ Feb 4 2006, 09:02 AM) [snapback]1101806[/snapback] Noooooooooo! I don't want to see 12dp in this secton... not too scary, im afraid ScamPay will be in here soon.    damn, still waiting my withdraw from sp.
QUOTE Well it seems SP wasn't lying about an outside investigation. In that last clip they did mention 2 attorney generals investigating 12DP. It makes sense now, how do you go trying to monopolize all autosurfs on monday, then freezing almost all their accounts and messing up your business 2 days later? No one shoots themselves in the foot like that. Stormpay's smarter than that. They know no future autosurf or hyip will ever use them again. I believe they had no choice but to do what they did to save themselves. As far as the funds not being there? Maybe, but why freeze other autosurfs who were not attempting to pull out millions? It's all too much of a coincidense. First the freeze, then the news story with SP looking so good and responsible. They knew somthing, and that's why they took action so suddenly, a day before the news event. I'm starting to think this war is not between 12DP and SP, but maybe the government and 12DP? And SP is just the middle man, trying to play dumb and look good for the feds. Believe me, SP doesn't want this as much as we don't. Not with the kind of money they were making off these programs. Then why SP need to freeze all accounts of other autosurfs and hyips?
I hope some others help as well:
QUOTE(dmday1 @ Feb 4 2006, 01:28 AM) [snapback]1101954[/snapback] I hope some others help as well: DAYUM!!!! $3k donated???? Oh well, as soon as I can fun my EMO I will donate something, but this guy must have made a fortune with 12daily to donate friggin 3 thousand dollars!!! QUOTE(kleefton @ Feb 4 2006, 09:31 AM) [snapback]1101968[/snapback] DAYUM!!!! $3k donated???? Oh well, as soon as I can fun my EMO I will donate something, but this guy must have made a fortune with 12daily to donate friggin 3 thousand dollars!!! he is 12dp mod, maybe 12dp pays him more than it in saraly?
hey guys what is going on, why is it in this section?
QUOTE(lamode @ Feb 4 2006, 04:34 AM) [snapback]1101985[/snapback] he is 12dp mod, maybe 12dp pays him more than it in saraly? Nope. Just wanted to help 12DP get back on it's feet.
hope i can get back my $$ in this..~
QUOTE(dmday1 @ Feb 4 2006, 05:35 PM) [snapback]1101994[/snapback] Nope. Just wanted to help 12DP get back on it's feet. wow, tha big sum of $$$ dmday1
QUOTE(dmday1 @ Feb 4 2006, 01:35 PM) [snapback]1101994[/snapback] Nope. Just wanted to help 12DP get back on it's feet.
anyone done chargeback? or paid by stormpay?
my funds are deposited into stormpay for abt a month, how do i recover from spi had emailed abc to report on the biggest ponzi... ----> sp
i wonder who are those guest in here viewing MMG-12dp thread?
 BTW, i still hope there is good news coming soon ..its enough for all the bad news since 2 days ago 
u r right yurica
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