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QUOTE(jwc007 @ Feb 2 2006, 09:25 AM) [snapback]1081056[/snapback] I wouldn't assume that it was the FBI, as it might also be the SEC, as 12dp trades and invests money to produce ours and their profit. The money we recieve are a mix of funds from a variety of revenue and 12dp has never been dependant on membership growth for a return and many other AutoSurfs and so called HYIPs. That has made 12dp an exceptionally stable program. The SEC would be investigating questionable trades. The FBI or DEA, probably money laundering. We won't really know anything until Charis or Stormpay tells us. Here's hoping this Program survives this! Yea, I also doubt it is the FBI...
i have one package should be expired and my earning should go pending today, but that still showing as active package and not move to pending.
Anyone else has the same problem? QUOTE(kevinw @ Feb 2 2006, 09:27 AM) [snapback]1081081[/snapback] I'm Kevin Wessell and neither I nor my company, Companies Incorporated, own 12DP or Life Clicks, LLC. If you go to www.companiesinc.com you will see we are in the business of establishing corporations and LLCs. We establish tens of thousands of corporations and LLCs. That is all we do…incorporate. So, perhaps this is one of the many thousands of companies that one of our clients ordered from us. "Ford" manufactures cars. We manufacture companies. If someone robs a bank while driving a Ford that does not mean that Ford motor company is using a new method for raising cash - though with the latest news it looks like they may start resorting to that  . It is the same for us when we establish a corporations or LLC for a customer. If this company is selling products or soliciting investors, be sure you check them out thoroughly before parting with your money. I hope this helps. Kevin Wessell QUOTE(plongeur @ Feb 2 2006, 09:10 AM) [snapback]1080830[/snapback] charis at the moment is surely trying to negociate with stormpay, now, if we take a look at all the recent news and update, its is clearly stormpay we should be mad about, not 12dp, im not saying they have .........bad intention, but, when they manage to get all of 12dp client to file a claim by pissing them off, think of all the money they will have frozen, that means, 12dp cant have it, but they can sure use it to make more money, is stormpay honest in there way of acting, hummm, i have serious doubt on that, but to prevent that, rigth now, the best thing to do is to relax and support charis by letting her do what she has to do to get all of that cleared. also keep that in mind 1,her site didnt get hacked 2,shes got money enough 3,she always post news when they are verified 4,stormpay is the one causing all of that with there new policy that came out very discretly and with not much notice to admins so, let's all act like responsible persons and let her do what she has been doing very good for a long time, finding solutions and keep us informed Good post! I think stormpay is realizing that with 12dp as a client, they risk lawsuits and mass claims to deal with. They don't want all that work and trouble. Im just hoping right now that Charis and stormpay people are able to come to an agreement on them continuing as business partners.
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QUOTE(busybutterfly @ Feb 2 2006, 09:27 AM) [snapback]1081083[/snapback] Is this a joke? its a joke hes trying to add more confusion here, meaningless for him to come here rite?? QUOTE(lamode @ Feb 2 2006, 10:28 AM) [snapback]1081096[/snapback] i have one package should be expired and my earning should go pending today, but that still showing as active package and not move to pending. Anyone else has the same problem? Others on the 12dp forum have reported this problem.
I think at the bottom of this thread it should carry a warning just like the one you find on the cigarette.
"Director General Warning, Reading of this thread is hazardous to your health, if you are suffering from a heart attack and having a weak heart please avoid." QUOTE(busybutterfly @ Feb 2 2006, 05:27 PM) [snapback]1081083[/snapback] Is this a joke? No, its SPAM 
QUOTE(lamode @ Feb 2 2006, 09:28 AM) [snapback]1081096[/snapback] i have one package should be expired and my earning should go pending today, but that still showing as active package and not move to pending. Anyone else has the same problem? lamode!! Can you not see what 12daily pro admin is going through right now!? Give it time!
NEWS
Stormpay Not Responding - by Charis - 12DP Admin at 2006-02-02 12:28:26 We wanted to take this time to update you on the status of our current Stormpay issue. As of about 5pm yesterday evening, StormPay has suspended out account without notice, not allowing any member upgrades nor any of our staff login access to our account. Between our office and our attorney, we have left 4 messages last night as well as 8 messages this morning with no reply. We also have received no email notification of any reaon for the suspension. We have also not yet received the promised bank wire of a portion of our funds that that at 3pm yesterday we were told by them we would receive today. Until we get more information we are unable to provide any further update on our pending payment schedule. We will keep you updated in our member news area as we have more information. QUOTE(kevinw @ Feb 2 2006, 09:28 AM) [snapback]1081106[/snapback] I'm Kevin Wessell and neither I nor my company, Companies Incorporated, own 12DP or Life Clicks, LLC. If you go to www.companiesinc.com you will see we are in the business of establishing corporations and LLCs. We establish tens of thousands of corporations and LLCs. ... Kevin Wessell BAN.
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AMAZING SITUATION! 12DP in Trouble...The end was near!
I submited tcket to SP to know what happend with 12 DP.Now see what they say; Support Helpdesk Home > Helpdesk > My Tickets > 12dp account 12dp account Waiting Time: 3m | ID: 452280 Created by You 02 Feb 2006 11:07 Please release 12 dailypro.com account from hold! Closed by Christina 02 Feb 2006 11:10 Rate this reply Unfortunately, we are unable to process any further transactions on behalf of the merchant. StormPay Inc. certainly understands your concerns regarding this situation. However, the funds of this merchant were frozen by an outside organization pending further investigation. To protect the integrity of the investigation we are unable to release any details at this time. Once the funds are released, StormPay will release the funds to claimant(s) for disbursement. QUOTE(magictime @ Feb 2 2006, 09:29 AM) [snapback]1081121[/snapback] NEWS Stormpay Not Responding - by Charis - 12DP Admin at 2006-02-02 12:28:26 We wanted to take this time to update you on the status of our current Stormpay issue. As of about 5pm yesterday evening, StormPay has suspended out account without notice, not allowing any member upgrades nor any of our staff login access to our account. Between our office and our attorney, we have left 4 messages last night as well as 8 messages this morning with no reply. We also have received no email notification of any reaon for the suspension. We have also not yet received the promised bank wire of a portion of our funds that that at 3pm yesterday we were told by them we would receive today. Until we get more information we are unable to provide any further update on our pending payment schedule. We will keep you updated in our member news area as we have more information. THANK YOU.
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new update for u guys... posted 4 mins ago..
Stormpay Not Responding - by Charis - 12DP Admin at 2006-02-02 12:28:26 We wanted to take this time to update you on the status of our current Stormpay issue. As of about 5pm yesterday evening, StormPay has suspended out account without notice, not allowing any member upgrades nor any of our staff login access to our account. Between our office and our attorney, we have left 4 messages last night as well as 8 messages this morning with no reply. We also have received no email notification of any reaon for the suspension. We have also not yet received the promised bank wire of a portion of our funds that that at 3pm yesterday we were told by them we would receive today. Until we get more information we are unable to provide any further update on our pending payment schedule. We will keep you updated in our member news area as we have more information. see?? SP really sux.. 
QUOTE(Candice @ Feb 2 2006, 05:29 PM) [snapback]1081112[/snapback] Others on the 12dp forum have reported this problem. thank for the reply. haloevo - how the hell i know if she is working? no news and the forum registration is disable.
Spam.
Have a nice vacation kevinw
QUOTE(magictime @ Feb 2 2006, 09:29 AM) [snapback]1081121[/snapback] NEWS Stormpay Not Responding - by Charis - 12DP Admin at 2006-02-02 12:28:26 We wanted to take this time to update you on the status of our current Stormpay issue. As of about 5pm yesterday evening, StormPay has suspended out account without notice, not allowing any member upgrades nor any of our staff login access to our account. Between our office and our attorney, we have left 4 messages last night as well as 8 messages this morning with no reply. We also have received no email notification of any reaon for the suspension. We have also not yet received the promised bank wire of a portion of our funds that that at 3pm yesterday we were told by them we would receive today. Until we get more information we are unable to provide any further update on our pending payment schedule. We will keep you updated in our member news area as we have more information. That's beautiful... we're f  in so many words...QUOTE(kevinw @ Feb 2 2006, 09:34 AM) [snapback]1081195[/snapback] I'm Kevin Wessell and neither I nor my company, Companies Incorporated, own 12DP or Life Clicks, LLC. If you go to www.companiesinc.com you will see we are in the business of establishing corporations and LLCs. We establish tens of thousands of corporations and LLCs. That is all we do…incorporate. So, perhaps this is one of the many thousands of companies that one of our clients ordered from us. "Ford" manufactures cars. We manufacture companies. If someone robs a bank while driving a Ford that does not mean that Ford motor company is using a new method for raising cash - though with the latest news it looks like they may start resorting to that . It is the same for us when we establish a corporations or LLC for a customer. If this company is selling products or soliciting investors, be sure you check them out thoroughly before parting with your money. I hope this helps. Kevin Wessell Enough of this bs. Someone report this guy to a mod!!! QUOTE(kevinw @ Feb 2 2006, 11:27 AM) [snapback]1081081[/snapback] I'm Kevin Wessell and neither I nor my company, Companies Incorporated, own 12DP or Life Clicks, LLC. If you go to www.companiesinc.com you will see we are in the business of establishing corporations and LLCs. We establish tens of thousands of corporations and LLCs. That is all we do…incorporate. So, perhaps this is one of the many thousands of companies that one of our clients ordered from us. "Ford" manufactures cars. We manufacture companies. If someone robs a bank while driving a Ford that does not mean that Ford motor company is using a new method for raising cash - though with the latest news it looks like they may start resorting to that . It is the same for us when we establish a corporations or LLC for a customer. If this company is selling products or soliciting investors, be sure you check them out thoroughly before parting with your money. I hope this helps. Kevin Wessell Yeah...you already said that! Beth
I hate to admit this but the situation right now is not good!
 Unfortunatly I think there have been to many complaints to different agencies that the heat is now coming!!!! I hope I'm wrong but my gut tells me this is a very serious situation for both 12Daily and us members Tyler IMSGold QUOTE(kevinw @ Feb 2 2006, 09:34 AM) [snapback]1081195[/snapback] I'm Kevin Wessell I hope this helps. Kevin Wessell reported, hope a mod bans this
what the hell is kevinw doin?~!
hello ur post is big enough to be seen~~~ QUOTE(uplinkhack @ Feb 2 2006, 10:38 AM) [snapback]1081250[/snapback] what the hell is kevinw doin?~! hello ur post is big enough to be seen~~~ He's spamming. I've reported him and I hope some others do the same. QUOTE(RQ Cash @ Feb 2 2006, 09:36 AM) [snapback]1081215[/snapback] That's beautiful... we're f in so many words...The latest update says it all!!! !2Daily Pro is now OVER and OUT!!! Sincerely, Tyler IMSGold
stormpay has their disscussion board back up
QUOTE(uplinkhack @ Feb 2 2006, 12:06 PM) [snapback]1080779[/snapback] hey i just logged in to SP and saw that their latest news that's supposed to be posted on 31 Jan (if i remember correctly) is removed. The post is about the single payment processor being SP. Does that imply they decided to go back on their actions??? Someone else pls check theirs too and confirm the removal of the news~ Let's hope everything's back to normal and peaceful life and we all get back to our normal daily surfing routine and cashing out~~~ ~ Peace out ~ They moved that statement to their user agreement section. Look at item number 28 under their user agreement you will see the same statement. Hope that helps
I wonder if Stormpay is just pissed that 12DP is opening another site that is using a different payment processor. If this is so, you might not see the new 12DP until this is figured out.
QUOTE(longfellaz @ Feb 2 2006, 11:37 AM) [snapback]1081238[/snapback] reported, hope a mod bans this Exactly what rule did his post break on this forum? Seems like maybe people were blaming his company for selling an LLC to 12DP. He has every right to defend himself....
ponzi nemesis and his cronies complained to someone?? messed up the autosurf industry??
I hope not. QUOTE(4u2c @ Feb 2 2006, 11:29 AM) [snapback]1081114[/snapback] I think at the bottom of this thread it should carry a warning just like the one you find on the cigarette. "Director General Warning, Reading of this thread is hazardous to your health, if you are suffering from a heart attack and having a weak heart please avoid." Yeah! I've felt like that on occasion and the current situation seems no exception, and certainly would induce depression! Abundant Negativity helps no one and is never justified, no matter how dire the situation seems. Like attracts like, a known universal law! QUOTE(IMSGold @ Feb 3 2006, 01:39 AM) [snapback]1081263[/snapback] The latest update says it all!!! !2Daily Pro is now OVER and OUT!!! Sincerely, Tyler IMSGold hello pls dun be spoiler can or not?
So.. 12DP did NOT get a response from StormPay... so I doubt any of you guys did either.
QUOTE(lamode @ Feb 2 2006, 12:28 PM) [snapback]1081096[/snapback] i have one package should be expired and my earning should go pending today, but that still showing as active package and not move to pending. Anyone else has the same problem? mine has done the same thing. not sure what is going on there QUOTE(Candice @ Feb 2 2006, 09:39 AM) [snapback]1081258[/snapback] He's spamming. I've reported him and I hope some others do the same. YES I DID TO REPORT HIM QUOTE(wildfxp @ Feb 2 2006, 09:41 AM) [snapback]1081294[/snapback] I wonder if Stormpay is just pissed that 12DP is opening another site that is using a different payment processor. If this is so, you might not see the new 12DP until this is figured out. If you try and upgrade on Alien Trust you get the same error message as 12 dailypro.
"Temporarily out of stock
Due to the popularity of the StormPay debit card as a withdrawal option, our current inventory of debit cards has been depleted. We have backordered an additional supply of cards and those have been promised to us by February 13. For that reason, we are unable to accept any payments at this time for the debit card until we have an inventory of cards in our possession." So they just decide to change it to Feb 13th... Even though they were PROMISED the cards by Feb 1st.. StormPay is not acting professional about their own company....
The news about 12Dailypro on Stormpay's site is there. It's under the help button- just click on announcements in this area. This news is about how Stormpay requires commission based businesses to use their service exclusively.
QUOTE(haloevo @ Feb 2 2006, 10:22 AM) [snapback]1081016[/snapback] hmmmm........ yes, it has been removed. Good speculation. I wonder why this has been done.
really sux that 12 DP is on the way out. Now people will see why surfs/hyips shouldnt use STORMPAY. The chargebacks are gonna fly. So If you have money in stormpay ...GET IT OUT NOW
cause they will take it and if your balance isnt enough they will make your account negative. Have fun....
I want to say goodbye to SP.........
DONT DO ANY CHARGEBACKS PLEASE, THIS WILL ONLY ADD TO THE PROBLEMS !!
let's wait and see...it's late now for me and it's early over at Charis side i suppose...hope we get a more credible update asap...
QUOTE(kevinw @ Feb 3 2006, 01:21 AM) [snapback]1080993[/snapback] I'm Kevin Wessell and neither I nor my company, Companies Incorporated, own 12DP or Life Clicks, LLC. If you go to www.companiesinc.com you will see we are in the business of establishing corporations and LLCs. We establish tens of thousands of corporations and LLCs. That is all we do…incorporate. So, perhaps this is one of the many thousands of companies that one of our clients ordered from us. "Ford" manufactures cars. We manufacture companies. If someone robs a bank while driving a Ford that does not mean that Ford motor company is using a new method for raising cash - though with the latest news it looks like they may start resorting to that . It is the same for us when we establish a corporation or LLC for a customer. If this company is selling products or soliciting investors, be sure you check them out thoroughly before parting with your money. I hope this helps. Kevin Wessell huh? so? Very out of the blue. Are you implying that u incorporated 12dailypro and Lifeclicks but u are not liable for their actions? Or Did u incorporated stormpay and whatever stormpay did u are not liable? QUOTE(CGP @ Feb 2 2006, 12:48 PM) [snapback]1081368[/snapback] huh? so? Very out of the blue. Are you implying that u incorporated 12dailypro and Lifeclicks but u are not liable for their actions? Or Did u incorporated stormpay and whatever stormpay did u are not liable? read back a couple pages . . . he is a spammer, just ignore him . . QUOTE(gauranggupta @ Feb 2 2006, 09:47 AM) [snapback]1081361[/snapback] DONT DO ANY CHARGEBACKS PLEASE, THIS WILL ONLY ADD TO THE PROBLEMS !! a lot won't listen...especially the adults. (no offense) some of you that got paid...are you going to call this one a "SCAM" too? *looks for that person*
Stormpay is on a crazy rampage freezing everyone's (Merchants) accounts.
QUOTE(hurriedsunny @ Feb 2 2006, 07:08 PM) [snapback]1080797[/snapback] LOL and the FUN just continues. Here's an excerpt from the 12d forum for those of you who can't get on it to read from someone who wrote SP regarding all this: Hey, here is a reply on a mail to stormpay asking : why did you suspend 12dp's account. Stormpay Inc. certainly understands your concerns regarding this situation. However, the funds of this merchant were frozen by an outside organization pending further investigation. To protect the integrity of the investigation we are unable to release any details at this time. Once the funds are released, StormPay will release the funds to claimant(s) for disbursement. Soooooooo...the conclusion to that...the person posting that just assumed that that means the FBI is now giving 12d problems!! Oh well...the saga continues!!  I think 12dp has alot of money in their Stormpay to the degree to make the authorities extremely worry about illegal use of that money and/or illegal sources . Hope this is solved fast , because i need to see my 8.64 $  - poor guy  |
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