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jimbono
Jan 31 2006, 05:40 PM
QUOTE(randallbate @ Jan 31 2006, 07:13 PM) [snapback]1056090[/snapback]

I'm new on this, and i need some help about 12DP upgrade...Please...
I upgrade for $48.
This upgrade expired 25/01/06, (6 days ago) Now i appear as a FREE MEMBER
My cashout status is pending...
Will i be paid after this upgrade expires if i dont add any further upgrade?
Or i need to upgrade to avoid account cancellation?
THANKS!!!!

You will most likely be paid tomorrow or day after. (5-7 business days from the day of expiry) if your payment processor is StormPay. For EMO, you will have to wait for 10 business days as per today's announcement from Charis.

No, you don't have to upgrade to receive the payout. But you have within 30 days from the expiry of your last upgrade to upgrade again and to avoid account cancellation.
actfree
Jan 31 2006, 05:40 PM
QUOTE(aproxxitone1 @ Jan 31 2006, 06:36 PM) [snapback]1056367[/snapback]

anything u buy is an investment doh.gif


i have a bridge to sell you.. oops, i mean invest. rofl4.gif
FastCashForMe
Jan 31 2006, 05:41 PM
QUOTE(rollergrrl @ Feb 1 2006, 01:37 AM) [snapback]1056378[/snapback]

Is your money "safe" anywhere? What your the government collapses? What if your currency value plummets? What if your country blows up? What if your house burns down and you have a big wad of money under your bed?


Your money is never 100% safe, not even in the bank... of course its 99.8% safe, but nothing is ever 100%. Play the game fair and don´t break the rules and your safe im most places wink.gif
jon
Jan 31 2006, 05:41 PM
QUOTE(IMSGold @ Feb 1 2006, 09:32 AM) [snapback]1056310[/snapback]

This is another rediculous post to add to hundreds of others today!!! 4.gif

Look fellow MMG members, what Stormpay is doing is not illegal anti-trsut anti-freedom immoral nazi tactics!!!

This is common Capitalistic business practices!!

Here are the facts:

- Stormpay is one of the VERY Few payment processors that will do business with programs
like 12Daily!!

- Because of the Thousands of people trying to de-fraud or cheat the system Stormpay is
at risk the most!!!!

- Stormpay is also one of the FEW payment processors that has it's own Debit Card, and
issues checks!!!

- Stormpay is also one of the few payment processors that allow members to fund their account
with a Credit Card!!!

So for Online businesses to that offer Referral fees or commissions that want to use Stormpay
then they have to use ONLY Stormpay or go shopping elsewhere!!! The reason Stormpay is
taking this stand is because of the HIGH Risk Nature of the business we are all in!!!

Look put yourself in Stormpay's shoes for a moment and think of all the administrative CRAP they
have to go thru in order that we the members of 12Daily and 12Daily does not get ripped off!!!

I guarantee you EMO would, and could not deal with it!!!

Sincerely,

Tyler
IMSGold



I agree with you in this aspect. However I still believe that they should give their merchants a free hand in deciding wether what payment processor they should allow in their programs. That is what "competition" means, just like pitting Visa against Mastercard. thumbup(1).gif
emtutusa
Jan 31 2006, 05:41 PM
QUOTE(IMSGold @ Jan 31 2006, 06:32 PM) [snapback]1056310[/snapback]

This is another rediculous post to add to hundreds of others today!!! 4.gif

Look fellow MMG members, what Stormpay is doing is not illegal anti-trsut anti-freedom immoral nazi tactics!!!

This is common Capitalistic business practices!!

Here are the facts:

- Stormpay is one of the VERY Few payment processors that will do business with programs
like 12Daily!!

- Because of the Thousands of people trying to de-fraud or cheat the system Stormpay is
at risk the most!!!!

- Stormpay is also one of the FEW payment processors that has it's own Debit Card, and
issues checks!!!

- Stormpay is also one of the few payment processors that allow members to fund their account
with a Credit Card!!!

So for Online businesses to that offer Referral fees or commissions that want to use Stormpay
then they have to use ONLY Stormpay or go shopping elsewhere!!! The reason Stormpay is
taking this stand is because of the HIGH Risk Nature of the business we are all in!!!

Look put yourself in Stormpay's shoes for a moment and think of all the administrative CRAP they
have to go thru in order that we the members of 12Daily and 12Daily does not get ripped off!!!

I guarantee you EMO would, and could not deal with it!!!

Sincerely,

Tyler
IMSGold



Just wanted to point a few things out.

EMO would do business with 12DP.
EMO has its own debit card.
EMO will accept credit cards.

and EMO will even exchange your e-gold and e-bullion
Also, You can actually get a hold of EMO's customer service. Does SP even have customer service? None that I have seen. They have no reason not to with all the fees they take in.

I think your arguement is baseless. Thats just my opinion though
rollergrrl
Jan 31 2006, 05:42 PM
QUOTE(Tazzz @ Jan 31 2006, 06:40 PM) [snapback]1056405[/snapback]

The sad thing is I do in a way agree with you smile.gif I have been a die hard Stormpay users and the day I -HAD- to get an EGOLD account to join a program was not a fun one for me, its clumsy, and inconvient and hard to fund smaller amounts to without paying a fortune...

I will probably continue to use storm pay... but That doesn't mean I like it....

I think you are right, I think eventually it would have 'self corrected'... Albiet, probably at the end of rifle in those times and under those circumstances...

I really don't want to shoot the owner of Scam pay... I just want him to play fair.. (yeah I know I said play fair and were talking $$ and they don't fit together most of the time)

Alright Play dirty but holding buckets of money that isnt yours in order to recieve a result is just plain criminal and should be treated so.

Break into my home and try to steal my stuff don't be surprised if I was "in fear for my life" and shot the fellow that tried to 'borrow' my TV....

Where my opinions come from? I am a pure capitalist IMHO and disagree with government interference UNLESS it is a pure criminal act.... And by criminal I don't mean breaking of random laws that are stupid in the first place, I mean a truely criminal act... And Stormpay has done that with 12DP by withholding funds from 12dp untill a decision was made (basically in stormpays favor) And for anyone who thinks this is ok, let me start up a payment processor and join under me smile.gif

(Btw all this talk of guns ect is purely being used soley for examples and is in no way meant as a threat or meant to make one feel uncomfortable ect...)


Agreed!
aproxxitone1
Jan 31 2006, 05:42 PM
QUOTE(actfree @ Jan 31 2006, 05:40 PM) [snapback]1056415[/snapback]

i have a bridge to sell you.. oops, i mean invest. rofl4.gif


ur a real smart person..let me tell u Lighten.gif
Pito
Jan 31 2006, 05:43 PM
QUOTE(IMSGold @ Jan 31 2006, 05:39 PM) [snapback]1056389[/snapback]

Ancient knows nothing about what he is talking about especially in regards to Stormpay!!! Your money is
safe with Stormpay as long as you follow their TOS!!!

It's really that simple!!!

Tyler
IMSGold


At least as safe as with e-gold, yes, certainly... Nevertheless,their fees are a pain in the ass, and their ****ing netiba thing makes me wanna puke !
headystuff
Jan 31 2006, 05:43 PM
QUOTE(emtutusa @ Jan 31 2006, 05:41 PM) [snapback]1056424[/snapback]

Just wanted to point a few things out.

EMO would do business with 12DP.
EMO has its own debit card.
EMO will accept credit cards.

and EMO will even exchange your e-gold and e-bullion
Also, You can actually get a hold of EMO's customer service. Does SP even have customer service? None that I have seen. They have no reason not to with all the fees they take in.

I think your arguement is baseless. Thats just my opinion though


Well said! clapping7.gif
xvinhp
Jan 31 2006, 05:43 PM
QUOTE(Mike1972 @ Jan 31 2006, 05:40 PM) [snapback]1056406[/snapback]

I am waiting, but SP account.What's yours?


i'm also waiting for the expire on the 23rd.... also stormpay acct..
emtutusa
Jan 31 2006, 05:44 PM
QUOTE(aproxxitone1 @ Jan 31 2006, 06:36 PM) [snapback]1056367[/snapback]

anything u buy is an investment doh.gif


Really? Hmm What kind of return are you getting on your candy bar "investments"?
randallbate
Jan 31 2006, 05:44 PM
QUOTE(jimbono @ Jan 31 2006, 05:40 PM) [snapback]1056412[/snapback]

You will most likely be paid tomorrow or day after. (5-7 business days from the day of expiry) if your payment processor is StormPay. For EMO, you will have to wait for 10 business days as per today's announcement from Charis.

No, you don't have to upgrade to receive the payout. But you have within 30 days from the expiry of your last upgrade to upgrade again and to avoid account cancellation.


THAN YOU!!!!
Great LOGO (JESUS INSIDE)!!!!!
yomoney
Jan 31 2006, 05:44 PM
QUOTE(Tazzz @ Jan 31 2006, 05:12 PM) [snapback]1056079[/snapback]

Not attempting to shoot you down smile.gif but I have a computer with both Linux and Windows on it... And amazingly I'm not going to get dropped by either OS for doing so smile.gif



Right on. Stormpays tactics is downright illegal.
A-Train
Jan 31 2006, 05:45 PM
Same here, I'm still waiting for my StormPay Compound expired last January 23.
aproxxitone1
Jan 31 2006, 05:46 PM
QUOTE(emtutusa @ Jan 31 2006, 05:44 PM) [snapback]1056453[/snapback]

Really? Hmm What kind of return are you getting on your candy bar "investments"?


an intangible one, but it was more than what i got on my return with 12dp ...smart guy biggrin.gif
rollergrrl
Jan 31 2006, 05:47 PM
QUOTE(yomoney @ Jan 31 2006, 06:44 PM) [snapback]1056459[/snapback]

Right on. Stormpays tactics is downright illegal.

Which law did they break?
aproxxitone1
Jan 31 2006, 05:48 PM
QUOTE(aproxxitone1 @ Jan 31 2006, 05:46 PM) [snapback]1056486[/snapback]

an intangible one, but it was more than what i got on my return with 12dp ...smart guy biggrin.gif

tangible*
IMSGold
Jan 31 2006, 05:48 PM
QUOTE(emtutusa @ Jan 31 2006, 05:41 PM) [snapback]1056424[/snapback]

Just wanted to point a few things out.

EMO would do business with 12DP.
EMO has its own debit card.
EMO will accept credit cards.

and EMO will even exchange your e-gold and e-bullion
Also, You can actually get a hold of EMO's customer service. Does SP even have customer service? None that I have seen. They have no reason not to with all the fees they take in.

I think your arguement is baseless. Thats just my opinion though


I agree with most of your points! smile.gif

What we don't know is how well EMO would hand all of 12Daily's business on a daily basis. You have to
realize that 12Daily almost has 400,000 members and the amount of transactions in one day is in the
thousands.

Then you have to realize the hassle of all the Charge Backs from fraudulent credit charges would cause.

As far as I'm concerned I don't think EMO could handle the amount of transactions and fraud attempts
that a program like 12Daily would bring to the table.

I might be wrong but I don't think EMO has been in this type of situation before.

Sincerely,

Tyler
IMSGold
Tazzz
Jan 31 2006, 05:49 PM
QUOTE(IMSGold @ Jan 31 2006, 05:32 PM) [snapback]1056310[/snapback]

This is another rediculous post to add to hundreds of others today!!! 4.gif

Look fellow MMG members, what Stormpay is doing is not illegal anti-trsut anti-freedom immoral nazi tactics!!!

This is common Capitalistic business practices!!

Here are the facts:

- Stormpay is one of the VERY Few payment processors that will do business with programs
like 12Daily!!

- Because of the Thousands of people trying to de-fraud or cheat the system Stormpay is
at risk the most!!!!

- Stormpay is also one of the FEW payment processors that has it's own Debit Card, and
issues checks!!!

- Stormpay is also one of the few payment processors that allow members to fund their account
with a Credit Card!!!

So for Online businesses to that offer Referral fees or commissions that want to use Stormpay
then they have to use ONLY Stormpay or go shopping elsewhere!!! The reason Stormpay is
taking this stand is because of the HIGH Risk Nature of the business we are all in!!!

Look put yourself in Stormpay's shoes for a moment and think of all the administrative CRAP they
have to go thru in order that we the members of 12Daily and 12Daily does not get ripped off!!!

I guarantee you EMO would, and could not deal with it!!!

Sincerely,

Tyler
IMSGold


Great post... The only problem I have with stormpays decision was the fact that they WITH HELD funds from 12DP untill they complied... Also the lack of notice on Stormpays part was poor (acceptable) but poor decision..


QUOTE(FastCashForMe @ Jan 31 2006, 05:36 PM) [snapback]1056360[/snapback]

I agree, Egold was GREAT but it sucked BIG TIME safety wise. But i mean between emo and stormpay? how could you even think twice? wink.gif


Easy, live in a country that scampay doesnt allow...

QUOTE(rollergrrl @ Jan 31 2006, 05:37 PM) [snapback]1056378[/snapback]

Is your money "safe" anywhere? What your the government collapses? What if your currency value plummets? What if your country blows up? What if your house burns down and you have a big wad of money under your bed?


I second that, but one can take measurements of probability smile.gif

QUOTE(IMSGold @ Jan 31 2006, 05:39 PM) [snapback]1056389[/snapback]

Ancient knows nothing about what he is talking about especially in regards to Stormpay!!! Your money is
safe with Stormpay as long as you follow their TOS!!!

It's really that simple!!!

Tyler
IMSGold


Right, its unfortunate that there have been a few cases where there terms change, dont allow the effected users the time to comply, and they then freeze the funds (God it must be cold in his personal bank account)

I have never had anything personally happen to my SP account as I have allows complied with the terms and conditions... But I really feel sorry for those companies that DIDN'T break the TOS and accepted say EMO, Stormpay, and Paypal... That now have been told they won't give back the funds in the Stormpay account untill a decision is made and you are in complaince with SP's "One processor for them all" policy
emtutusa
Jan 31 2006, 05:49 PM
QUOTE(aproxxitone1 @ Jan 31 2006, 06:46 PM) [snapback]1056486[/snapback]

an intangible one, but it was more than what i got on my return with 12dp ...smart guy biggrin.gif


Did you ever answer me as to which country you are in and how much your EMO was for?
matrung
Jan 31 2006, 05:49 PM
QUOTE(rollergrrl @ Feb 1 2006, 11:47 AM) [snapback]1056495[/snapback]

Which law did they break?


I believe it maybe anti-competition laws ... or anti-trust law in america or some such thing .. you know like microsoft ... goverments don't want microsoft to be a monopoly .. (althougth it really is hehehhe ) ...

i
aproxxitone1
Jan 31 2006, 05:50 PM
QUOTE(emtutusa @ Jan 31 2006, 05:49 PM) [snapback]1056526[/snapback]

Did you ever answer me as to which country you are in and how much your EMO was for?


50 bucks. USA
IMSGold
Jan 31 2006, 05:50 PM
QUOTE(rollergrrl @ Jan 31 2006, 05:47 PM) [snapback]1056495[/snapback]

Which law did they break?


Totally agree! Stormpay has not broken any laws and frankly I'm quite tired
of seeing this type of retarted post!!!

Tyler
IMSGold
Autumm
Jan 31 2006, 05:51 PM
QUOTE(emtutusa @ Jan 31 2006, 05:41 PM) [snapback]1056424[/snapback]

Just wanted to point a few things out.

EMO would do business with 12DP.
EMO has its own debit card.
EMO will accept credit cards.

and EMO will even exchange your e-gold and e-bullion
Also, You can actually get a hold of EMO's customer service. Does SP even have customer service? None that I have seen. They have no reason not to with all the fees they take in.

I think your arguement is baseless. Thats just my opinion though


how sure are u stormpay doesnt have a customer service.
do u even a stormpay account to speak?
dont make such statement if u do not have the full story.
Stormpay has a customer service if u log into your stormpay account. responses are always within 24 hours
Lucian Reign
Jan 31 2006, 05:51 PM
QUOTE(rollergrrl @ Feb 1 2006, 09:47 AM) [snapback]1056495[/snapback]

Which law did they break?

smile.gif
Tazzz
Jan 31 2006, 05:54 PM
QUOTE(rollergrrl @ Jan 31 2006, 05:47 PM) [snapback]1056495[/snapback]

Which law did they break?


One could argue that they broke a law in the united states against blackmail... Or one could argue an antitrust lawsuit (but this is a tough one for this small act)


rollergrrl
Jan 31 2006, 05:54 PM
QUOTE(matrung @ Jan 31 2006, 06:49 PM) [snapback]1056528[/snapback]

I believe it maybe anti-competition laws ... or anti-trust law in america or some such thing .. you know like microsoft ... goverments don't want microsoft to be a monopoly .. (althougth it really is hehehhe ) ...

i

I see no proof of a law they have broken. What are your sources for this "anti-competition" law?
onlyemokid
Jan 31 2006, 05:57 PM
will we still be paid ontime for SP? Thx
IMSGold
Jan 31 2006, 05:57 PM
QUOTE(Tazzz @ Jan 31 2006, 05:49 PM) [snapback]1056524[/snapback]

Great post... The only problem I have with stormpays decision was the fact that they WITH HELD funds from 12DP untill they complied... Also the lack of notice on Stormpays part was poor (acceptable) but poor decision..
Easy, live in a country that scampay doesnt allow...
I second that, but one can take measurements of probability smile.gif
Right, its unfortunate that there have been a few cases where there terms change, dont allow the effected users the time to comply, and they then freeze the funds (God it must be cold in his personal bank account)

I have never had anything personally happen to my SP account as I have allows complied with the terms and conditions... But I really feel sorry for those companies that DIDN'T break the TOS and accepted say EMO, Stormpay, and Paypal... That now have been told they won't give back the funds in the Stormpay account untill a decision is made and you are in complaince with SP's "One processor for them all" policy


You are incorrect here!!! Stormpay has made it clear that if you don't comply within a certain time frame then your account will be frozen!!!

Also Stormpay has said that if you want to use other payment processors then all you have to do is
disable the ability for your members to upgrade using Stormpay. You can use your Stormpay account
to pay your members so that they receive their monies owing!!!

Please people read the facts and DON'T SPECULATE!!!

Sincerely,

Tyler
IMSGold
jimbono
Jan 31 2006, 05:58 PM
QUOTE(Autumm @ Jan 31 2006, 07:51 PM) [snapback]1056546[/snapback]

how sure are u stormpay doesnt have a customer service.
do u even a stormpay account to speak?
dont make such statement if u do not have the full story.
Stormpay has a customer service if u log into your stormpay account. responses are always within 24 hours

What he means by customer service might be the toll free number (phone) that EMO has and SP does not have.
emtutusa
Jan 31 2006, 05:58 PM
QUOTE(aproxxitone1 @ Jan 31 2006, 06:50 PM) [snapback]1056537[/snapback]

50 bucks. USA


Ok I got news for you. That EMO (at least in the USA) is legal tender. They HAVE to accept it. Go to EMO's site and print off the info on this page https://www.emocorp.com/s/template/Bank.vm;...FFDEA72A2728307

and MAKE them accept it. The bank can also do a phone or website verification to find out if it is a negotiable instrument. Good Luck.
davidscript
Jan 31 2006, 05:58 PM
QUOTE(rollergrrl @ Jan 31 2006, 05:54 PM) [snapback]1056577[/snapback]

I see no proof of a law they have broken. What are your sources for this "anti-competition" law?


It's not like sp is FORCING 12dp to drop all other processors at gunpoint, they gave them an option, although no one really knows for sure what extent sp would take it if 12dp went the other route. Would they freeze everyone's account? That would be liable for sure.
FastCashForMe
Jan 31 2006, 05:58 PM
QUOTE(IMSGold @ Feb 1 2006, 01:50 AM) [snapback]1056543[/snapback]

Totally agree! Stormpay has not broken any laws and frankly I'm quite tired
of seeing this type of retarted post!!!

Tyler
IMSGold


Sure you don´t like it you dont have to use it wink.gif but then again you would be missing out on the free money that 12dp is paying you, so you might as well get over it and get a stormpay account. wink.gif
Tazzz
Jan 31 2006, 05:58 PM
QUOTE(Tazzz @ Jan 31 2006, 05:54 PM) [snapback]1056576[/snapback]

One could argue that they broke a law in the united states against blackmail... Or one could argue an antitrust lawsuit (but this is a tough one for this small act)



QUOTE
We discovered Sunday night, that the delay in receiving funds was not simply slow banking. On Sunday night we received a notice from StormPay informing us that they had cancelled all our pending withdrawals and could only pay us by bank wire or check. They also informed us that they would not continue doing business with us if we continued to offer our members the ability to upgrade with EMO. On Monday morning we attempted to arrange our bank wire with Stormpay, hoping to have time to come to some fair resolution that would allow us to maintain both payment processors. StormPay informed us at this time that they would not allow the release of our funds until we removed EMO as a payment option from our site. We were given a 5pm deadline in order to do so. Not doing so would result in StormPay disallowing any further upgrades incoming purchases through them. The only account functions we would have been allowed at that point would have been to refund all funds in our account to the purchaser, which would not have allowed for any earnings or commissions to be paid to these StormPay members.
sNarFy
Jan 31 2006, 05:59 PM
If 12dp stick with EMO and Stormpay, none of this argument or problems will occur and we live happily ever after... dance9bh.gif
MoneyMakingDiva
Jan 31 2006, 05:59 PM
Once again, people. Stormpay has stated that with these sort of programs... it's them and them alone or choose another processor. The update is on their site....

Policy Update
31-Jan-2006 14:40
Due to high volumes of fraudulent transactions made to merchants with commission based business models, StormPay can no longer process payments for those type of merchants who choose to accept more than one payment processing solution.

Using more than one payment processor is exactly the situation that “fraud” seeks out. This enables the fraudulent user to set up a fake profile with either of the processors, make a purchase or join the program, and then withdraw their earnings to the other processor where the real identity is used. This sort of activity makes it nearly impossible for either processor, or law enforcement to properly handle the fraud because the “trail” comes to an end. This is the cause for a great many chargebacks to those merchants which can be avoided.

As of 1/30/2006 StormPay must require Merchants with a commissioned based business model who choose to accept StormPay, to only accept StormPay. StormPay certainly does not wish to dictate how our merchants run their business, all merchants are free to choose any processing solution that best suits their needs. We understand you have choices and certainly hope that choice is the online leader – StormPay. However, if another payment solution is used, please immediately remove StormPay from the associated website as a funding option and continue to use the StormPay account funds to finish payments to those members who paid using their StormPay account.

At StormPay we truly care about our merchants’ and the overall success of their business and sales and for that reason we have implemented these very necessary changes. Thank you in advance for your understanding in this very crucial matter.

StormPay Inc.
BigMoneyGuy
Jan 31 2006, 05:59 PM
Guys, take a breather!

Here's something to read while relaxing. I stumbled across this website while browsing around cyberspace. What is your take on it? I think its hilariously refreshing....nice to see someone not taking everything so seriously.

Then again, maybe it's just me sharing an odd sense of humor.

For your enjoyment:

www.autosurf12dailypro.com

-BigMoneyGuy
FastCashForMe
Jan 31 2006, 06:00 PM
QUOTE(davidscript @ Feb 1 2006, 01:58 AM) [snapback]1056625[/snapback]

It's not like sp is FORCING 12dp to drop all other processors at gunpoint, they gave them an option, although no one really knows for sure what extent sp would take it if 12dp went the other route. Would they freeze everyone's account? That would be liable for sure.


80% of members ALREADY use and are happind with stormpay. Did you expect them to drop SP and continue with EMO just to satisfy the 20%, i don´t think soo.....
IMSGold
Jan 31 2006, 06:00 PM
QUOTE(sNarFy @ Jan 31 2006, 05:59 PM) [snapback]1056632[/snapback]

If 12dp stick with EMO and Stormpay, none of this argument or problems will occur and we live happily ever after... dance9bh.gif


Were you raised under major Powerlines or something!!!! screwy.gif screwy.gif
A-Train
Jan 31 2006, 06:01 PM
QUOTE(sNarFy @ Jan 31 2006, 05:59 PM) [snapback]1056632[/snapback]

If 12dp stick with EMO and Stormpay, none of this argument or problems will occur and we live happily ever after... dance9bh.gif


I think you don't really understand what is happening there!

StormPay doesn't allow multple payment processors to any auto-surf or HYIP programs. Either you will choose or drop StormPay.
emtutusa
Jan 31 2006, 06:02 PM
QUOTE(Autumm @ Jan 31 2006, 06:51 PM) [snapback]1056546[/snapback]

how sure are u stormpay doesnt have a customer service.
do u even a stormpay account to speak?
dont make such statement if u do not have the full story.
Stormpay has a customer service if u log into your stormpay account. responses are always within 24 hours


Yes I do have a SP account and have since I started with 12DP. And Yes I have paid Stormpay over 1k in FEES to date. And I have NEVER found a number to call SP with problems. And it is my understanding that NETIBA and SP are owned by the same person and I have had a support ticket out for NETIBA for over a month. So you could very well say I have the full story.
sujit_76
Jan 31 2006, 06:02 PM
Just wanted to make few poits here. We have heard of VISA VERIFIED processors. EMO uses that where in the payment is routed through your banking account. This verification service has been started by VISA just to ensure that the card is used by the actual Credit Card Holder. I Hope SP signs up for this Service ASAP
Now on 12DP issue after getting this confirmed by SP my confidence in 12DP has increased and now in my opinion there is no doubt about the professionalism and ethical standard of Charis.
I am also waiting for EMO Payouts and approximately 10K. I am now very clear that I will stay with EMO because I want to Join the new site ASAP.
I will also like fellow MMG members to stop bashing 12DP and make this thread a happy place so that the new bees are not afraid away
aproxxitone1
Jan 31 2006, 06:03 PM
QUOTE(emtutusa @ Jan 31 2006, 05:58 PM) [snapback]1056621[/snapback]

Ok I got news for you. That EMO (at least in the USA) is legal tender. They HAVE to accept it. Go to EMO's site and print off the info on this page https://www.emocorp.com/s/template/Bank.vm;...FFDEA72A2728307

and MAKE them accept it. The bank can also do a phone or website verification to find out if it is a negotiable instrument. Good Luck.

i apprieciate it, but i been there done that...both my bank and check cashing stores could not receive a single person via emo customer service
sachiaiko
Jan 31 2006, 06:05 PM
Is there ANY possible way, what so ever, that we can get in the forums if we arent members on the 12daily official site? I am so furious i want to speak out against this, and there WAS an option to become a registered member of the forums after a months worth of time, but they wont respond to my tickets when i try and do it. (I've tried three times in the last month)

I'm so angry. I think they should have everyone move to EMO and abadoned STormpay. Not only has stormpay realized "oh hey, we can actually win here, woooo, we should monopolize everything." They are actually saying if you use ANY OTHER payment processor stormpay will cut you off.

I am outraged, i think Stormpay is a joke, a fraud, a scam, a rip off, and i hate hate hate that i need to use it for 12daily, and i think everyone really needs to speak out.

Would you rather pay stormpay fees? Or zero fees in Emo payments.

And what about 12daily's customers who CAN"T use stormpay due to their living situation? Jesus... this is disgusting, i'm so outraged... seriously. I'm normally this calm, loving, honest and blunt person and i'm not normally so fiesty and crap but i'm seriously upset about what has happened and i want to tell 12daily in my own words, but opening a ticket will only cause problems while posting to the boards is much easier.

So HOW do i post to the boards when they havent put any effort into getting them running in the three months i've been around? :growls: Dear lord, i'm so frustrated!
Tazzz
Jan 31 2006, 06:05 PM
QUOTE(IMSGold @ Jan 31 2006, 05:57 PM) [snapback]1056617[/snapback]

You are incorrect here!!! Stormpay has made it clear that if you don't comply within a certain time frame then your account will be frozen!!!

Also Stormpay has said that if you want to use other payment processors then all you have to do is
disable the ability for your members to upgrade using Stormpay. You can use your Stormpay account
to pay your members so that they receive their monies owing!!!

Please people read the facts and DON'T SPECULATE!!!

Sincerely,

Tyler
IMSGold


What was I incorrect about? The post you qouted stated I disagreed with the length of time that Stormpay gave to comply...

Read my prevoise post qouting the email from 12DP and you will see what I am talking about, Sure its not speculation its going off of the assumption that 12DP is telling the truth of what transpired in their email.

Tyler, read what is being posted before you attack, I agree that there are some people that have posted that are blown out of porportion. If you read all of my posts I don't believe anything I have said is wrong, and infact I have even stated that I will indeed probably continue to use stormpay and deal with it... not like it... but deal with it.. Please read the facts yourself. We have an email from 12DP and the post from SP to go off of...
headystuff
Jan 31 2006, 06:08 PM
Let's just pose a hypothetical situation:

Charis opens another autosurf called 12dailyemo.

EMO processor

Same TOS

Same Rates

How long would 12dailypro continue with Stealpay as its processor?
jimbono
Jan 31 2006, 06:08 PM
QUOTE(IMSGold @ Jan 31 2006, 08:00 PM) [snapback]1056647[/snapback]

Were you raised under major Powerlines or something!!!! screwy.gif screwy.gif

rofl4.gif rofl4.gif rofl4.gif
Lucian Reign
Jan 31 2006, 06:09 PM
According to that latest news from Charis at 12DP over 75% of 12DP customers use Stormpay.

So in a democratic sort of a way she is doing what is best for the majority of her shareholders - I agree with this. It would be stupid and suicidal for her to drop SP in favour of EMO

Well done Charis!!

Well done 12DP

smile.gif
NSIDIUS
Jan 31 2006, 06:09 PM
Sometimes I just don't know what the hell people are talking about in here... biggrin.gif lol
Tazzz
Jan 31 2006, 06:09 PM
QUOTE(headystuff @ Jan 31 2006, 06:08 PM) [snapback]1056727[/snapback]

Let's just pose a hypothetical situation:

Charis opens another autosurf called 12dailyemo.

EMO processor

Same TOS

Same Rates

How long would 12dailypro continue with Stealpay as its processor?


For as long as there is a person out there upgrading or they are in business.
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