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QUOTE(gauranggupta @ Jan 7 2006, 02:17 PM) even trafficmeltdown has dropped egold  , now 12dp,alientrust and tm will be hacker free and will grow stronger  [right][snapback]798429[/snapback][/right] Duhhhh....TM has dropped egold because it's now owned by AT!!!! QUOTE(gauranggupta @ Jan 7 2006, 02:17 PM) even trafficmeltdown has dropped egold , now 12dp,alientrust and tm will be hacker free and will grow stronger [right][snapback]798429[/snapback][/right]  
QUOTE(jsully @ Jan 7 2006, 08:33 AM) Yes I think it is 12DP problem with Egold. Lots of other programs still using it successfully and not worried. I will continue to use egold without worry. Letter from Dr. Douglas Jackson; Chairman, e-gold, Ltd. http://www.e-gold.com/letter.html [right][snapback]797759[/snapback][/right] Like I said before , it is up to her even if she only wants to accept Stormpay which is owned by PayPal now but lets see whether her decision is in the programs best interest later on . Let me reiterate the following : I agree, if 12 daily accepted our previous upgrades in e-gold, we should be paid in e-gold . Her reason for not paying out in e-gold for existing upgrades by e-gold is too ridiculous to comprehend. It is her prerogative not to accept e-gold in the future but what has been transacted has to be honoured based on the terms of payment and not switch processors for existing payments . Analogy : If a terrorist deposits money in Citibank and if the police found out about it and goes to investigate Citibank , then should the public not deal with Citibank just because the terrorist opened an account there ? Putting most of her funds into Stormpay is not a wise business decision, I hope that Stormpay don't bite her in the future . She should be more sensitive that there are many members outside US and have problems with some processors and give them time to switch over using their own convenient method of funding and not hold back their e-gold cashouts and force them to change processors all of a sudden. Regards 
QUOTE(hurriedsunny @ Jan 7 2006, 10:20 AM) Duhhhh....TM has dropped egold because it's now owned by AT!!!! [right][snapback]798448[/snapback][/right] no its now owned by paula of safaricash , brian former admin of tm and vince of at are now together
I'm all for no e-gold. as an amature I lost way to much money via e-gold by being hacked!! Can't wait to get my e-gold payments put into stormpay!!!!
--Dave QUOTE(hyippie @ Jan 7 2006, 02:22 PM) Like I said before , it is up to her even if she only wants to accept Stormpay which is owned by PayPal now but lets see whether her decision is in the programs best interest later on . Let me reiterate the following : I agree, if 12 daily excepted our previous upgrades in e-gold, we should be paid in e-gold . Her reason for not paying out in e-gold for existing upgrades by e-gold is too ridiculous to comprehend. It is her prerogative not to accept e-gold in the future but what has been transacted has to be honoured based on the terms of payment and not switch processors for existing payments . Analogy : If a terrorist deposits money in Citibank and if the police found out about it and goes to investigate Citibank , then should the public not deal with Citibank just because the terrorist opened an account there ? Putting most of her funds into Stormpay is not a wise business decision, I hope that Stormpay don't bite her in the future . She should be more sensitive that there are many members outside US and have problems with some processors and give them time to switch over using their own convenient method of funding and not hold back their e-gold cashouts and force them to change processors all of a sudden. Regards [right][snapback]798457[/snapback][/right] Completely agree. (As international member of the community)
ive seen many postings abt not being able to submit a new ticket..
The solution: click on 'submit new ticket' first then log in(preferably with the 'remember me' ticked). Please pass this on for the benefit of the whole 12dp community
QUOTE(hyippie @ Jan 7 2006, 11:22 AM) I agree, if 12 daily accepted our previous upgrades in e-gold, we should be paid in e-gold . Her reason for not paying out in e-gold for existing upgrades by e-gold is too ridiculous to comprehend. [right][snapback]798457[/snapback][/right] Maybe I'm not current on the updates, but where are people getting that they won't get paid through egold? I thought they just announced delayed payments.  QUOTE(kelvin888 @ Jan 7 2006, 02:27 PM) ive seen many postings abt not being able to submit a new ticket.. The solution: click on 'submit new ticket' first then log in(preferably with the 'remember me' ticked). Please pass this on for the benefit of the whole 12dp community [right][snapback]798489[/snapback][/right] The submit new ticket option is disabled until they are in track of new deposits, as stated in latest news. I was looking why i cant make a new ticket and then read it all about in the news. QUOTE(davidscript @ Jan 7 2006, 10:28 AM) Maybe I'm not current on the updates, but where are people getting that they won't get paid through egold? I thought they just announced delayed payments. [right][snapback]798492[/snapback][/right] checkout the latest updates..
Question i see that you can print cks with emo for up to $1000 . Question is if you have $3000 in your EMO account can you print (3) $1000 cks simultameously one after the other or is there a limit or waiting period between printing a ck. I email EMO Admin but of course they havent responded so maybe someone here knows the answer
I must say at least egold answered support requests i dont know about this EMO QUOTE(syscobra @ Jan 7 2006, 10:29 AM) The submit new ticket option is disabled until they are in track of new deposits, as stated in latest news. I was looking why i cant make a new ticket and then read it all about in the news. [right][snapback]798499[/snapback][/right] is it? try using my method, it works QUOTE(doubletrouble @ Jan 7 2006, 12:14 PM) This has probably been covered before, but I want to try 12dailypro. I was going to try to build enough $ using stormclix to pay for an upgrade, but at $.02 per click, that would take some time. They say in other posts up to $5.00 per click if upgrade with netiiba membership, but how much can be made with netclix with this and how fast. Sorry if this has been talked about earlier, links to those discusions would be helpfull, thank you [right][snapback]798410[/snapback][/right] I switched from Egold to Stormpay last month, and got Netiba certified. When I certified, the amount of Stormclix I got more than doubled due to fact that people advertising on Stormclix can target Netiba members. I check the clix about 4 times a day to see if there are any, and I get about $1.50 a day on average. Means you earn back your money from certifying rather quickly, and after that you can earn an upgrade for 12daily about every 4 days. For new members starting with nothing in the bank, it's one of the easiest ways to get up some cash. Classy Lassie QUOTE(papabear @ Jan 7 2006, 01:30 PM) Question i see that you can print cks with emo for up to $1000 . Question is if you have $3000 in your EMO account can you print (3) $1000 cks simultameously one after the other or is there a limit or waiting period between printing a ck. I email EMO Admin but of course they havent responded so maybe someone here knows the answer I must say at least egold answered support requests i dont know about this EMO [right][snapback]798509[/snapback][/right] Just passing through. Since when does e-Gold answer anything? EMO is a top notch organization in terms of service and ease of use. As far as Money Orders from EMO, you can print as many as you want, as many times as you want. I noticed someone said Stormpay is owned by PayPal. If you have something to back that up, I'd like to see it because Stormpay is currently being run by the same scammers they were before. If they dropped e-Gold, one reason could be the fact of all the downtime and they arbitrarily limit accounts if too much money goes in and no one knows how much is too much with e-Gold. Just passing through. Continue on. .gif)
QUOTE(kelvin888 @ Jan 7 2006, 11:29 AM) checkout the latest updates.. [right][snapback]798500[/snapback][/right] Okay, I read it, and I still don't get why egolders think they won't get paid. Ah, my bad... I scrolled down and read it 
QUOTE(syscobra @ Jan 7 2006, 12:15 PM) Anyways i am going to take my money in Stormpay or EMO but i would like to have more money in my egold account cause its the primary source for investments online. If you like it or not, everyone will continue using egold forever. Just my piece on this problem. [right][snapback]798413[/snapback][/right] Then choose EMO and get verified. You can transfer your earnings to Egold from there. Classy Lassie QUOTE Like I said before , it is up to her even if she only wants to accept Stormpay which is owned by PayPal now but lets see whether her decision is in the programs best interest later on . Let me reiterate the following : I agree, if 12 daily excepted our previous upgrades in e-gold, we should be paid in e-gold . Her reason for not paying out in e-gold for existing upgrades by e-gold is too ridiculous to comprehend. It is her prerogative not to accept e-gold in the future but what has been transacted has to be honoured based on the terms of payment and not switch processors for existing payments . Analogy : If a terrorist deposits money in Citibank and if the police found out about it and goes to investigate Citibank , then should the public not deal with Citibank just because the terrorist opened an account there ? Putting most of her funds into Stormpay is not a wise business decision, I hope that Stormpay don't bite her in the future . She should be more sensitive that there are many members outside US and have problems with some processors and give them time to switch over using their own convenient method of funding and not hold back their e-gold cashouts and force them to change processors all of a sudden. Regards Paypal ownes Stormpay?? QUOTE(kelvin888 @ Jan 8 2006, 03:32 AM) is it? try using my method, it works [right][snapback]798512[/snapback][/right] wat's ur new method
can anybody here recieve the confirmation e-mail when changing their account settings or creating a support ticket account?
QUOTE(davidscript @ Jan 7 2006, 11:35 AM) Okay, I read it, and I still don't get why egolders think they won't get paid. [right][snapback]798531[/snapback][/right] We will get paid but NOT TO E-Gold! Please read the update properly! Tyler IMSGold
Since when the hell is Stormpay owned by PayPal?.... wouldnt make sense for PayPal to own stormpay and create competition for itself....
luke QUOTE(Classy Lassie @ Jan 7 2006, 01:33 PM) I switched from Egold to Stormpay last month, and got Netiba certified. When I certified, the amount of Stormclix I got more than doubled due to fact that people advertising on Stormclix can target Netiba members. I check the clix about 4 times a day to see if there are any, and I get about $1.50 a day on average. Means you earn back your money from certifying rather quickly, and after that you can earn an upgrade for 12daily about every 4 days. For new members starting with nothing in the bank, it's one of the easiest ways to get up some cash. Classy Lassie [right][snapback]798516[/snapback][/right] so the $5.00 ads are b.s. what amount are the ads for generaly? Oh, thanks for your reply QUOTE(TheMobileHookup @ Jan 7 2006, 10:35 AM) Just passing through. Since when does e-Gold answer anything? EMO is a top notch organization in terms of service and ease of use. As far as Money Orders from EMO, you can print as many as you want, as many times as you want. I noticed someone said Stormpay is owned by PayPal. If you have something to back that up, I'd like to see it because Stormpay is currently being run by the same scammers they were before. If they dropped e-Gold, one reason could be the fact of all the downtime and they arbitrarily limit accounts if too much money goes in and no one knows how much is too much with e-Gold. Just passing through. Continue on. [right][snapback]798529[/snapback][/right] Thanks Mob but that does not make sense though are you sure Cause if you can print 10 or 100 $1000 cks one after the other if you want without needing to be verified at all which is what i see in there terms why would you have to be fully verified to print a check for more than $1000. It just doesnt make any sense . Does anybody know for sure how this works QUOTE(bjhac @ Jan 7 2006, 07:35 PM) Paypal ownes Stormpay?? [right][snapback]798538[/snapback][/right] Quite right, this guy is talking nonsense. Probably trying to unsettle stormpay users. What a clown, Paypal is owned by e-bay and have nothing to do with Stormpay. In fact they are arch rivals I wish people wouldn't post rubbish in here QUOTE(lukek @ Jan 7 2006, 01:39 PM) Since when the hell is Stormpay owned by PayPal?.... wouldnt make sense for PayPal to own stormpay and create competition for itself.... luke [right][snapback]798557[/snapback][/right] paypal has a lot of negative info floating around the net about it, so why not creat anouther identity QUOTE(IMSGold @ Jan 7 2006, 11:38 AM) We will get paid but NOT TO E-Gold! Please read the update properly! Tyler IMSGold [right][snapback]798553[/snapback][/right] I did, and edited my previous post... chill out  QUOTE(syscobra @ Jan 7 2006, 12:15 PM) Well i really dont like this news from 12dp. I have 3 pending payouts almost 1k and a cousin have 2 pending of 864, if you ever used egold you must know how hard is to find egold. In our country is so hard to get out the money(Venezuela). You must make a lot of stuff to get some money in egold in here. I Really don't know how they can make that move, why? lets say something.. .- If they say people use egold for criminal activities....they are not the fbi or a competent authority to say that.  .- If they say is not safe to have large egold ammounts....hell they have paid in a day at least 500k to 1million somedays we really dont now but BIG AMMOUNTS have been paid from them everyday. And maybe receive money for about 500k to 2 million a day in their accounts. Now its not safe?  .- They say people have some hacked accounts?....Hey that is Responsability of the account holders. If they don't know how to keep their account safe they must have no account. If people get your account number and passphrase then change the email in your account, well that is your responsability, you can always pay someone to have a security check in your computer when trying to play with money online, and have some advice from experts source, ITS NOT HARD. I have a lot of accounts online since 6 years ago and NEVER got any hacker problem. Hackers can enter in your accounts only if you leave them a hole to meet your numbers, standar and minimal security check can keep you safe from them. Anyways i am going to take my money in Stormpay or EMO but i would like to have more money in my egold account cause its the primary source for investments online. If you like it or not, everyone will continue using egold forever. Just my piece on this problem. [right][snapback]798413[/snapback][/right] You've made really good points but you have to think of the other side of the arguement too. E-gold is anonymous... It's definitely used for criminal activities... Why can't anyone find Sasho? He literally stole money and bragged about it. E-Gold. It's not safe to hold large amounts in any e-gold account that you use because of the threats of viruses, trojans, keyloggers. Even if you have great security you still worry. People have hacked accounts, Yes it is the responsibility of the account holder, but how many times have you seen people come in here screaming about a hacked account expecting 12DP to give them their money back, not everyone takes responsibility for their own actions. BTW I have never had the problem either (knock on wood), if I did I would know it was my fault. Will I still use e-gold for other programs? Yes. I do feel that it is a "safe" move for 12DP, EMO is a VERY credible company! I havn't even seen any other "autosurf" or "hyip" use them. Plus you must be verified to use it to it's fullest extent, not to mention they even comply with the "patriot act" Which I don't care for, but this means that if 12DP was not on real business the feds have any and all information they need to kick in their doors. The concerns with e-gold aren't unwarranted, just like another member said why didn't the president state that they are seeking an injunction against businessweek in regards to the news if it is false. There is a VERY large rush to sell e-gold, just look at some of the exchangers (not accepting sell orders right now) so it's not like we're taking crazy pills worrying about an account freeze. 12DP does handle millions per day, WE WOULD ALL BE SCREWED IF THE FEDS FROZE EGOLD ACTIVITIES. Just think, if you play online, **MOST** of your online programs would not be able to pay you, except the ones in which you used Stormpay, or EMO! I think its good to diversify, I know it's a big and scary "What If", but it is completely plausable, that the Feds could choose to do that with e-gold because they are "different". So not saying that e-gold won't last, but that doesn't mean it cant "change". Just my opinion. QUOTE(yurica @ Jan 7 2006, 10:36 AM) wat's ur new method [right][snapback]798539[/snapback][/right] For those trying to submit new tickets, first go to http://12dpsupport.com/support/ then click on 'submit new ticket'. Then an error msg will come out asking you to register. key in id and password on the left.
can anybody here recieve the confirmation e-mail when changing their account settings or creating a support ticket account?
I swear some of the people that post here have the brains the size of a walnut... if I was a mod here I would just ban these users and do everyone a favor... stop posting information that is completely made up.....god
luke QUOTE(papabear @ Jan 7 2006, 01:41 PM) Thanks Mob but that does not make sense though are you sure Cause if you can print 10 or 100 $1000 cks one after the other if you want without needing to be verified at all which is what i see in there terms why would you have to be fully verified to print a check for more than $1000. It just doesnt make any sense . Does anybody know for sure how this works [right][snapback]798564[/snapback][/right] Oh...that part. Must have misread. You can print when not verified? If so then I assume there is a limit on that. I bought the fancy paper for the money orders. Wasn't taking chances and you never know when you have a big payout to take care of...I miss those days 
which one is better? Stormpay or EMO?
QUOTE(NSIDIUS @ Jan 7 2006, 02:43 PM) You've made really good points but you have to think of the other side of the arguement too. E-gold is anonymous... It's definitely used for criminal activities... Why can't anyone find Sasho? He literally stole money and bragged about it. E-Gold. [right][snapback]798583[/snapback][/right] Yeah, good thing he was Net IBA Certified! 
QUOTE(NSIDIUS @ Jan 7 2006, 11:43 AM) You've made really good points but you have to think of the other side of the arguement too. E-gold is anonymous... It's definitely used for criminal activities... Why can't anyone find Sasho? He literally stole money and bragged about it. E-Gold. It's not safe to hold large amounts in any e-gold account that you use because of the threats of viruses, trojans, keyloggers. Even if you have great security you still worry. People have hacked accounts, Yes it is the responsibility of the account holder, but how many times have you seen people come in here screaming about a hacked account expecting 12DP to give them their money back, not everyone takes responsibility for their own actions. BTW I have never had the problem either (knock on wood), if I did I would know it was my fault. Will I still use e-gold for other programs? Yes. I do feel that it is a "safe" move for 12DP, EMO is a VERY credible company! I havn't even seen any other "autosurf" or "hyip" use them. Plus you must be verified to use it to it's fullest extent, not to mention they even comply with the "patriot act" Which I don't care for, but this means that if 12DP was not on real business the feds have any and all information they need to kick in their doors. The concerns with e-gold aren't unwarranted, just like another member said why didn't the president state that they are seeking an injunction against businessweek in regards to the news if it is false. There is a VERY large rush to sell e-gold, just look at some of the exchangers (not accepting sell orders right now) so it's not like we're taking crazy pills worrying about an account freeze. 12DP does handle millions per day, WE WOULD ALL BE SCREWED IF THE FEDS FROZE EGOLD ACTIVITIES. Just think, if you play online, **MOST** of your online programs would not be able to pay you, except the ones in which you used Stormpay, or EMO! I think its good to diversify, I know it's a big and scary "What If", but it is completely plausable, that the Feds could choose to do that with e-gold because they are "different". So not saying that e-gold won't last, but that doesn't mean it cant "change". Just my opinion. [right][snapback]798583[/snapback][/right] Wow, good post, Nsidius
QUOTE(Omego2K @ Jan 7 2006, 10:36 AM) can anybody here recieve the confirmation e-mail when changing their account settings or creating a support ticket account? [right][snapback]798541[/snapback][/right] yes, once you register for e-support desk, you will receive an email almost immediately(I registered mine on the 5th). Once you submit a new ticket, it may take a while to arrive in your email though.
QUOTE(bjhac @ Jan 7 2006, 10:35 AM) Paypal ownes Stormpay?? [right][snapback]798538[/snapback][/right] Actually the Holding company is E-Bay . They own Pay Pal , Stormpay and Netiba. For business reasons, even Stormpay deny being the same company as Netiba, while previously , all Netiba certified websites used Stormpay Servers for the redirectional logo which was changed 3 months back . From past track record and history of Paypal , I think they are cautious not to reveal any affiliation with their new takeover of the other 2 companies last year. History may repeat itself .... If one is to dig deep enough , one will see the light ! Regards
We can't give a ticket to monday anyways right folks?
Just think of it this way... if 12daily pro continued to use egold everyone would be *****ing about the payout delays.....
 luke QUOTE(hyippie @ Jan 7 2006, 12:48 PM) Actually the Holding company is E-Bay . They own Pay Pal , Stormpay and Netiba. For business reasons, even Stormpay deny being the same company as Netiba, while previously , all Netiba certified websites used Stormpay Servers for the redirectional logo which was changed 3 months . From past track record and history of Paypal , I think they are cautious not to reveal any affliliation with their new takeover of the other 2 companies last year. History may repeat itself .... If one is to dig deep enough , one will see the light ! Regards [right][snapback]798615[/snapback][/right] Please do share this information with us.... luke
how to access the ticket support of 12dp?
QUOTE(hyippie @ Jan 7 2006, 01:48 PM) Actually the Holding company is E-Bay . They own Pay Pal , Stormpay and Netiba. For business reasons, even Stormpay deny being the same company as Netiba, while previously , all Netiba certified websites used Stormpay Servers for the redirectional logo which was changed 3 months . From past track record and history of Paypal , I think they are cautious not to reveal any affliliation with their new takeover of the other 2 companies last year. History may repeat itself .... If one is to dig deep enough , one will see the light ! Regards [right][snapback]798615[/snapback][/right] eBay owning them makes more sense than PayPal which is owed by eBay. Would make sense since they'd control a BIG piece of the pie. Also explains that NetIBA crap and lowering fees. I'll have to look this up though for any interesting parts of the story, though all companies listed above can burn for all I care
QUOTE(lukek @ Jan 7 2006, 06:49 PM) Just think of it this way... if 12daily pro continued to use egold everyone would be *****ing about the payout delays..... [right][snapback]798624[/snapback][/right] they can just restore e gold and say the security reasons as excuses. many members will still more happer then now. QUOTE(DropZite @ Jan 7 2006, 12:52 PM) how to access the ticket support of 12dp? [right][snapback]798639[/snapback][/right] Go to: http://12dpsupport.com/support/ And you have to sign up.... luke QUOTE(UNC @ Jan 7 2006, 10:49 AM) We can't give a ticket to monday anyways right folks? [right][snapback]798616[/snapback][/right] depending on what problems you have..
Thanks Mob I thought maybe there more to it so if you all dont mind i will put the question out again if anybody knows for sure please talk to me
Question i see that you can print cks with emo for up to $1000 . Question is if you have $3000 in your EMO account can you print (3) $1000 cks simultameously one after the other or is there a limit or waiting period between printing a ck. I email EMO Admin but of course they havent responded so maybe someone here knows the answer I must say at least egold answered support requests i dont know about this EMO QUOTE(papabear @ Jan 7 2006, 12:54 PM) Thanks Mob I thought maybe there more to it so if you all dont mind i will put the question out again if anybody knows for sure please talk to me Question i see that you can print cks with emo for up to $1000 . Question is if you have $3000 in your EMO account can you print (3) $1000 cks simultameously one after the other or is there a limit or waiting period between printing a ck. I email EMO Admin but of course they havent responded so maybe someone here knows the answer I must say at least egold answered support requests i dont know about this EMO [right][snapback]798650[/snapback][/right] glad you decided to jump back on the 12dp band wagon hahah  luke
how do you submit a ticket on 12dp? I made a support account, but I cant see a link to submit a ticket...
Let us know what you find Mr.Hookup
Very interseted if this is true.. QUOTE(IVM @ Jan 7 2006, 12:36 PM) Not a panicking problem indeed. You would not like to refund your members for money you never received just because you want to be a honourable admin as it was the case of AlienTrust and some members being hacked and having to put payouts behind due to so many problems and so on and on. Your members money should be secure in the pay processor you use for your program. Same case with Charis here. JMHO [right][snapback]797779[/snapback][/right] it definitely is a panicking problem. my members are secure with EGold and anything else is just completely ludicrous. The problem is not EGold, the problem is 12 daily not being able to control their accounts and having very lax security. To blame 12 daily problems on EGold is unethical as all get out.
I donno whether Paypal own SP and NetIBA.
But I know about hyippie's posting and he don't post crap. I follwed him in lots of posts and his posts are good ones I donno he has to explain more here |