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QUOTE(NSIDIUS @ Jan 6 2006, 07:46 PM) SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTT!!! [right][snapback]793537[/snapback][/right] That's awesome I use EMO extensively and love their ATM card  Wonder if they can pay my pending egolds to EMO?
Actually, we don't have to say anything further. Negative thinkers will always made a meal out of every move that 12dp is making. Honestly, I never know why they always come and make negative remarks. Not unless they secretly, seriously hope that 12dp will fail!
QUOTE(RQ Cash @ Jan 6 2006, 09:53 PM) That's awesome I use EMO extensively and love their ATM card Wonder if they can pay my pending egolds to EMO?[right][snapback]793586[/snapback][/right] Used them before when I did more transactions with intgold, switched to bullionexchange with e-gold, now I have to get the EMO card, maybe even order some checks, the good real ones! HAR! YES! Now let's get those egold payments caught up so I have some money again! Shoot.. send it to my EMO account!
i knew EMO will be picked by 12dp
 already did 10k transcation in EMO last month from egold
And the latest egold payment id receieved is ???
QUOTE(mjand2345 @ Jan 6 2006, 09:53 PM) Actually, we don't have to say anything further. Negative thinkers will always made a meal out of every move that 12dp is making. Honestly, I never know why they always come and make negative remarks. Not unless they secretly, seriously hope that 12dp will fail! [right][snapback]793589[/snapback][/right] Alot of them have to, alot of these people are admins of other programs that have only been getting hit and runners trying to diversify a bit and make a quick buck.
Now Charis needs to halt Stormpay payouts and for the next 24-48 hours ONLY do egold payouts... there are no other things on the agenda and egold should be the only thing...
luke
"Receive EMO payments - FREE"
OH YES!!! Thank god i havent switched all the way over to SP yet and didnt pay for that stupid NETIBA! EMO is they way to go!! I just opened up my account, and Im ready to go ..now i just need to get payment from e-gold lol
anyone had their expired upgrades payed out?
i know there are delays but how long do we have to wait extra? just wanted to know 12dp rocks!
QUOTE(lukek @ Jan 6 2006, 10:00 PM) Now Charis needs to halt Stormpay payouts and for the next 24-48 hours ONLY do egold payouts... there are no other things on the agenda and egold should be the only thing... luke [right][snapback]793629[/snapback][/right] Yeah I kinda agree on that, make some transfers deposits withdrawals, etc.. GET'ER DONE!!! QUOTE(lukek @ Jan 6 2006, 11:00 PM) Now Charis needs to halt Stormpay payouts and for the next 24-48 hours ONLY do egold payouts... there are no other things on the agenda and egold should be the only thing... luke [right][snapback]793629[/snapback][/right] I agree with you completely! But Charis has been busy the last few days so I wont be mad if she doesnt make payment on time. QUOTE(ahays630 @ Jan 6 2006, 11:01 PM) "Receive EMO payments - FREE" OH YES!!! Thank god i havent switched all the way over to SP yet and didnt pay for that stupid NETBIA! EMO is they way to go!! I just opened up my account, and Im ready to go ..now i just need to get payment from e-gold lol [right][snapback]793639[/snapback][/right] I signed up for emo about a week ago. Still waiting on verification from them but this is good news! 12DP ROCKS! .gif)
QUOTE(ahays630 @ Jan 6 2006, 10:03 PM) I agree with you completely! But Charis has been busy they last few days so I wont be mad if she doesnt make payment on time. [right][snapback]793652[/snapback][/right] I honestly wouldn't either, as long as I get it. Of course sooner is better, because I really need the money, but again, as long as I get it and as long as they keep on working and staying around. I'm outta here, u all take care, and don't hurt anybody, see you tomorrow.
what's the lastest eg payout number ???
And the latest egold payout ID is ???
QUOTE(mjand2345 @ Jan 7 2006, 11:53 AM) Actually, we don't have to say anything further. Negative thinkers will always made a meal out of every move that 12dp is making. Honestly, I never know why they always come and make negative remarks. Not unless they secretly, seriously hope that 12dp will fail! [right][snapback]793589[/snapback][/right] I agree too Everyone should help each other to make money. Please don't kill the gold goose. 
Maybe when EMO is added into the site we could probably get our expired E-Gold packages paid straight into EMO...wouldn't that be fun?
Read the latest update at 12dp... here's a part of it:
QUOTE As of this evening, 12daily Pro will no longer be accepting upgrades or making withdrawal payments via E-Gold.com. We will honor all current pending withdrawals and upgrades purchased using E-Gold with a payment of full earnings and referral commissions. This evening, we will make the last of our E-Gold payments, which will be for all upgrades expired on Dec. 23. For all E-Gold upgrades expiring on Dec. 24 - January 18, payments will be made by Jan 31, with the timing of payment somewhat dependent on which payment option is chosen. We will be offering a number of payment options to all members will pending E-Gold withdrawals and active upgrades. Beginning Monday, January 9, members will be able to submit a customized support ticket for each affected upgrade which will allow you to select from the following options:
1. Payment via Storm pay (fastest option, 1% fee). We have had hundreds of requests for such transfers in the 2. Payment via EMO (no fee) 3. Payment via EMO money order (must be US citizen and have withdrawal amount $1000 or over)(fee tbd) 4. One time only compounding of withdrawal into new upgrades package(s) to allow time to setup/verify a StormPay or EMO account. (fee will be any amount under $6 left over after all withdrawal funds are applied to new upgrade package) These options will generally all prove faster than recent E-Gold withdrawal times and all E-Gold withdrawals will be completely paid by Jan 31.
Well that sucks!
QUOTE(NSIDIUS @ Jan 6 2006, 11:59 PM) Alot of them have to, alot of these people are admins of other programs that have only been getting hit and runners trying to diversify a bit and make a quick buck. [right][snapback]793628[/snapback][/right] i agree totally....
OMG!!
NO MORE E_GOLD!! 
QUOTE(jsully @ Jan 7 2006, 12:14 AM) Well that sucks! [right][snapback]793722[/snapback][/right] what?
GOOD.
It's about time. That waiting crap is ridiclous though They should allow us to do it now
Aha..the latest update.
They sneaked that one in when I wasn't looking.  Thanks for letting me know.
Yipeee!!! Long live 12dp.. I will definitely be switching to EMO instead of SP..
johnckj
i would do your avatar  sorry, off topic....it's late...it's friday... 
QUOTE(UNC @ Jan 6 2006, 11:15 PM) GOOD. It's about time. That waiting crap is ridiclous though They should allow us to do it now [right][snapback]793726[/snapback][/right] yeah they should. already been waiting long enough.. QUOTE(cominis @ Jan 6 2006, 11:15 PM) what? [right][snapback]793725[/snapback][/right] they're extending our e-gold payments to the 31st. that's unbelievable.
Man, I'm going to miss egold though
i know not everyone can use stormpay, can everyone use emo?
is this no egold going to affect alot of members? QUOTE(LennieF @ Jan 7 2006, 12:17 AM) they're extending our e-gold payments to the 31st. that's unbelievable. [right][snapback]793737[/snapback][/right] oh, i am sorry. i have sp, have since i started. but i only started with 60 and now i am up to 300+, i do feel your pain, as i was about to switch because of sp fees. i am going to switch to emo as long as the fees are less than sp. i think that when programs start to add more and more payment processors, stormpay will be a thing of the past, but they got our money, as we needed them, and they will be all the way to the bank anyway.long live 12dp.
EMO's new debit card is available for worldwide use.
HAIL 12 DAILY PRO !!!!
QUOTE(UNC @ Jan 6 2006, 11:21 PM) EMO's new debit card is available for worldwide use. [right][snapback]793769[/snapback][/right] well that's good. QUOTE(cominis @ Jan 6 2006, 11:20 PM) oh, i am sorry. i have sp, have since i started. but i only started with 60 and now i am up to 300+, i do feel your pain, as i was about to switch because of sp fees. i am going to switch to emo as long as the fees are less than sp. i think that when programs start to add more and more payment processors, stormpay will be a thing of the past, but they got our money, as we needed them, and they will be all the way to the bank anyway.long live 12dp. [right][snapback]793763[/snapback][/right] you'll like emo. i've been a member for awhile. everything's cheap and lightning fast.
yes, i suppose so.
da! though im ticked they dont need a whole nother month to finish paying off all the egold people.. QUOTE(UNC @ Jan 6 2006, 11:23 PM) yes, i suppose so. da! though im ticked they dont need a whole nother month to finish paying off all the egold people.. [right][snapback]793792[/snapback][/right] yeah that does suck....
Let's see how this helps 12DP in the long run .. :
Hmmm.. they seem to have added the new processor just as some good news about E-Gold has filtered in. I can't find anywhere that they're going to drop E-Gold though - so as long as you can stand the waiting period (which hopefully won't get any worse) E-Gold should be just fine.
*********OOPS! I just read that they're dropping E-Gold. Boohoo!********* I apologize if this has been posted before, but here goes: Letter from Dr. Douglas Jackson; Chairman, e-gold, Ltd. e-gold® has recently been the subject of a slanderous and unfounded article in Business Week. e-gold strongly refutes the allegations and presumptions of this article. The article chose to focus through anecdote and suspicion only on an exception - criminal abuse - and ignores the overwhelming majority of e-gold usage. It also fails to note that all online payment mechanisms including credit cards and intermediaries such as PayPal are targeted by criminals, likely at a much greater magnitude than e-gold, and fails to relate the very proactive steps e-gold takes to eliminate any criminal behavior involving e-gold. e-gold and its Operator, Gold & Silver Reserve (G&SR®), including G&SR's exchange service OmniPay® in cooperation with the United States Government and pursuant to a lawfully issued written request, did allow an examination of the e-gold and OmniPay computer systems and data. The examination occurred on December 16th after normal business hours so as to avoid disrupting access to the system. The examination utilized the full resources of e-gold's system and prevented customer access. We were told by the government examiners that the outage would be for a few hours, however, due to the volume of data maintained by e-gold for its customers' protection, a surprise to the examiners, the examination occupied e-gold's computing capacity for 36 hours. e-gold apologizes for any inconvenience of the system down time caused by the government's request. No charges have been filed against e-gold, G&SR, OmniPay or any of its principals. e-gold operates legally and does not condone persons attempting to use e-gold for criminal activity. e-gold has a long history of cooperation with law enforcement agencies in the US and worldwide, providing data and investigative assistance in response to lawful requests. I'm proud of what we have accomplished so far with e-gold. e-gold, now in its 10th year online, is growing exponentially because of a network effect, a global cascade of Users telling their friends who then tell their friends. For the first time since our launch in 1996, this growth is providing the revenue and resources needed for e-gold to accelerate technical development and other refinements to make it more reliable and even less hospitable to those who would seek to abuse it. We are processing the same volume of transactions and growing at the same exponential pace that PayPal was in the second quarter of 2000. One difference, though, is that they had to give away $tens of millions of their investors' money to build a critical mass of user balances and were continuing a burn rate of about $10 million per month during this period. Altogether they burned through about $275 million of capital losses before their IPO. e-gold, in contrast, lacking significant outside investment: has attained a circulation larger than Canada's official gold reserves (currently 3.46 metric tonnes of gold, equivalent to about $55 million at current exchange rates). has web traffic surpassing etrade.com and citi.com and is neck and neck with kitco.com as the most heavily trafficked gold related site on the Web settles 50 to 60 thousand user-to-user payments per day, a daily value of about $10 million, has active Users in every country, (including more than 150,000 in China) despite our lack so far of foreign language versions - a high priority on our to-do list e-gold is the only payment mechanism that is truly global, enabling any merchant to accept payment online even if the payer lives in a third world country, has no credit card, or is perhaps 'unbanked' altogether. e-gold enables the migrant worker of modest means to send value back to his family in Mexico or Bangladesh at a fraction of the cost of conventional international remittance mechanisms. e-gold alone is free of chargeback risk, yet the fee for receiving payment in e-gold is a tiny fraction of those charged by any other systems. Thanks to e-gold, for the first time in history, normal people of modest means worldwide have the option of using currency that is designed from the ground up to be immune to debasement, with a governance model that precludes even its management and founders from having the power to subvert it. Gold & Silver Reserve has been operating for over nine years. Seeking to comply with every applicable law, G&SR has reached out to the Government dozens of times, has repeatedly met with officials from the Internal Revenue Service, the FBI, SEC and a variety of other Federal agencies, and has been told – in no uncertain terms – that we were operating legally and in full compliance with all laws, rules and regulations. Additionally, the Government has requested from us – on more than three hundred occasions – information regarding individuals it believed to be lawbreakers. Gold & Silver Reserve complied with every single request in a professional and timely fashion. Numerous Government officials have gone so far as to commend us in writing for our efforts in complying with their requests and aiding them in their investigations. Very recently, however, the Government concluded that it was unable to “regulate” our business under any current statutes or regulations. Rather than moving Congress to enact legislation, the Government apparently chose to undertake to regulate us under pre-existing statutes which are totally and utterly inapplicable to our business. To do so, the case the Government brought against Gold & Silver Reserve centered around false statements and fabrications made to a Magistrate Judge in Washington, D.C. A week later, when challenged by that Judge, the Government, fearing it would lose its case filed a second suit against Gold & Silver Reserve. We are now addressing that action and are confident that we will be victorious in a very short time. Both OmniPay and e-gold have been substantially harmed. Both sites were off-line altogether for 36 hours - an interval during which we were at a loss to know what to announce or even how to announce it. There were other direct interventions as well that I am not yet at liberty to discuss that nearly crippled OmniPay's ability to honor its obligations to and on behalf of users. The worst effect of course is on our reputation. This irresponsible smear piece will surely impair our efforts to build strategic relationships with the host of businesses and individuals that would benefit from an embrace of e-gold. Let me be very clear. e-gold in no manner condones persons or organizations attempting to use e-gold to support criminal acts. The exact opposite is true. e-gold limits accounts that are suspect of illicit activity and has a long history of cooperation with law enforcement agencies. There are two elements that make e-gold about the dumbest choice a criminal could make if seeking to obfuscate a money trail or otherwise hide the proceeds of crime. It is impossible for a general user of e-gold to send/add money (value in any form) into the system... he can only get e-gold by receiving an e-gold Spend from someone who already has some. There's a permanent record of all transfers, that is, a permanent record of the entire lineage of every particle of value in the e-gold system. There is nothing "anonymous and untraceable" about e-gold. e-gold Spends settle by book entry - it isn't so-called "digital cash". e-gold is not about crime. e-gold is not a hospitable environment for criminals. e-gold maintains an efficient and highly capable investigative staff to aid in the identification, apprehension and prosecution of any criminal abusing the system. Our staff has participated in hundreds of investigations supporting the FBI, FTC, IRS, DEA, SEC, USPS, and others. This is the reality of every payment system, the need to aid in rooting out criminal abuse, whether it is child pornographers taking advantage of the multiple layers and indirection of credit card middlemen, or smurfs aggregating cash via international remittance processors or even state lotteries. e-gold has taken a proactive approach, reaching out to law enforcement agencies and NGO's (Non-Governmental Organization) to foster closer cooperation in combating crime online. For example, e-gold is a charter member of the Financial Coalition to eradicate Child Pornography, organized by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, along with Visa, MasterCard, Microsoft, AOL, PayPal, First Data and some of the major banks. I hope to have additional and useful facts shortly and will communicate them when appropriate. I can assure you e-gold is up and running, supporting its customers, and continuing to grow. You can check it out at www.e-gold.com/letter.html
Yes been posted before but another read couldn't hurt
i still a fan or egold rather then sp..
Thank god I dont have to signup for Stormpay
me too
So if we have pending egold payments we won't get paid into egold until end of January?
so do you guys feel that another upgrade will be allright here in 12dp. reason i ask is all ive been reading is negative, negative and more negative posts on 12dailypro. Not here but another forum and its making me think twice about what to do.Is everyone still gung-ho about this program still? and if not where would you go? sorry if this seems stupid im new to this game
i am so lucky that i had my emo account verified the first week i heard of net money, before i heard of 12daily, egold and stormpay!!!!
 although i never used it 
Now they dropped EG completely it will be an interseting process.. I will wait and see how it goes before I invest again..
However, It still shouldn't take a month to finish all these egold cashouts 
QUOTE(jsully @ Jan 6 2006, 10:31 PM) So if we have pending egold payments we won't get paid into egold until end of January? [right][snapback]793842[/snapback][/right] My understanding is that if you have an e-gold upgrade that expired on December 23 or before, you will be paid by tonight. If you have one that expired December 24+, you will not receive payment by e-gold. You must choose one of the 4 options presented and will be paid by January 31. Edit: These are the options 1. Payment via Storm pay (fastest option, 1% fee). We have had hundreds of requests for such transfers in the 2. Payment via EMO (no fee) 3. Payment via EMO money order (must be US citizen and have withdrawal amount $1000 or over)(fee tbd) 4. One time only compounding of withdrawal into new upgrades package(s) to allow time to setup/verify a StormPay or EMO account. (fee will be any amount under $6 left over after all withdrawal funds are applied to new upgrade package) QUOTE(jsully @ Jan 6 2006, 08:31 PM) So if we have pending egold payments we won't get paid into egold until end of January? [right][snapback]793842[/snapback][/right] Where did you see that? egold went to 10 business days.. payouts should begin tomorrow and begin to stabilize... everyone should just stay positive...
QUOTE(jsully @ Jan 6 2006, 11:31 PM) So if we have pending egold payments we won't get paid into egold until end of January? [right][snapback]793842[/snapback][/right] they said upto january 31st depending on which withdrawal option we choose. hopefully they're just giving themselves alotta leeway on that. alot of us have way too much money tied up to be waiting 25 days for it. emo will be great, tho. no fees for emo to emo members! that's gonna save a minimum $600 a month for the maxouts!
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