I can't believe you guys are moaning about not being paid for a 23rd December Expiry yet, today is the 7th Business day and with their new revised e-gold terms they have a further 3 days to pay it. I myself am waiting for a December 23rd E-gold expiry to be paid out but I'm not complaing about the fact it hasn't been paid yet.
If you don't like the revised terms on e-gold then perhaps you should switch to StormPay or stop spending and look for another opportunity, making statements like "This tells me that there is no money in their e-gold account and they can only pay a few when e-gold comes in!!!" is purely guessing. You don't know if this is the case and neither do I.
The fact is they are paying, if you don't like their revised terms perhaps it's time to move on.
I have the same thing!! 3 Days and still paying 12/22 for e-gold users!!! This tells me that there is no money in their e-gold account and they can only pay a few when e-gold comes in!!!
This may be true, but as 12DP stated in their update last week, they are limiting the amount of funds kept in Egold. The communication from 12DP admin is remarkable and they have kept us informed every step of the way. Even though many are still being paid from 12/22, that's still well within/lower than 10 business days. When that's exceeded without proper notifcation from 12DP Admin, I may have a reason for some concern.
mjand2345
Jan 3 2006, 03:37 PM
QUOTE(Harbinger @ Jan 4 2006, 07:33 AM)
I can't believe you guys are moaning about not being paid for a 23rd December Expiry yet, today is the 7th Business day and with their new revised e-gold terms they have a further 3 days to pay it. I myself am waiting for a December 23rd E-gold expiry to be paid out but I'm not complaing about the fact it hasn't been paid yet.
If you don't like the revised terms on e-gold then perhaps you should switch to StormPay or stop spending and look for another opportunity, making statements like "This tells me that there is no money in their e-gold account and they can only pay a few when e-gold comes in!!!" is purely guessing. You don't know if this is the case and neither do I.
The fact is they are paying, if you don't like their revised terms perhaps it's time to move on.
I can't agree more. Well said Harbinger! [right][snapback]771829[/snapback][/right]
Well said, guys! Well said!
mkel
Jan 3 2006, 03:38 PM
Tarzan what is the ID for your Dec 23 payment that you are waiting for mine is Dec 24 ID# 310609 just like to know an approx number from Dec 23 and Dec 24
Mary
Omego2K
Jan 3 2006, 03:42 PM
hmm it seems 12dp only did 1000 payouts or so today. That's kinda weird.
mkosung
Jan 3 2006, 03:43 PM
mine is 305XXX for 12/23 expire
they dun keep reserve in egold for security measure i would assume. imagine having 10 million in egold..
i think each day they transfer what is neccesary for payout from bank to gold account. that would seem better. that way they can still earn some interest from their offline investment. just a thought
mjand2345
Jan 3 2006, 03:45 PM
QUOTE(mkosung @ Jan 4 2006, 07:43 AM)
mine is 305XXX for 12/23 expire
they dun keep reserve in egold for security measure i would assume. imagine having 10 million in egold..
i think each day they transfer what is neccesary for payout from bank to gold account. that would seem better. that way they can still earn some interest from their offline investment. just a thought [right][snapback]771882[/snapback][/right]
I agree. That is a more logical way to look the situation.
koprano
Jan 3 2006, 03:49 PM
looks like there are about 9000 payouts a day to process
I will be glad to get my gold from 25th as this will be the sold to buy stormpay credits
No more egold upgrades for me.
mkosung
Jan 3 2006, 03:51 PM
well, i just did an upgrade from SP and it show immediately in my 12dp account. looking good!!
Tarzan
Jan 3 2006, 03:52 PM
QUOTE(mkel @ Jan 3 2006, 05:38 PM)
Tarzan what is the ID for your Dec 23 payment that you are waiting for mine is Dec 24 ID# 310609 just like to know an approx number from Dec 23 and Dec 24
Mary [right][snapback]771851[/snapback][/right]
The one for 12/23 is 308XXX
Meatwad
Jan 3 2006, 03:52 PM
The price of gold is rising also, so that will be a bit extra for the program to work with. 534.00 right now.
mjand2345
Jan 3 2006, 03:56 PM
It will be good if you have gold in your account now!
Meatwad
Jan 3 2006, 04:00 PM
QUOTE(mjand2345 @ Jan 3 2006, 06:56 PM)
It will be good if you have gold in your account now! [right][snapback]771940[/snapback][/right]
LOL I know I reinvested all of mine yesterday when I got paid. If I had waited...gold would be 200.00 today.
mkel
Jan 3 2006, 04:00 PM
So about 2,000 from Dec 23 and 24
Mary
Tarzan
Jan 3 2006, 04:02 PM
QUOTE(mjand2345 @ Jan 3 2006, 05:29 PM)
Pardon me for saying that, but this is a very childish and immature way of looking at the current situation. E-gold was down for a few days last months, plus there are some holidays as well, so there will be definitely some backlogs for e-gold payments. The number of staff remains unchanged and yet there are backlogs to settle, so it is only logical that e-gold payment is a little slow. If your work is piled up, if you are ill for a few days, won't it take a while to clear those backlogs? [right][snapback]771788[/snapback][/right]
E-gold was down for a few days last months - Yes, I agree with this and egold caused a major backlog.
plus there are some holidays as well, so there will be definitely some backlogs for e-gold payments - Nope, have to disagree with you on this one. Yes there were some holiday days included this month. But why should the holiday only affect e-gold payments? If the holiday was a factor then both e-gold & stormpay payments should have been affected. However, SP payments have not been affected and are being paid with 4 business days as plenty of people received payment for Dec 27th expirations today.
The number of staff remains unchanged and yet there are backlogs to settle, so it is only logical that e-gold payment is a little slow - Have to disagree with this one also. If there is backlog, I would think the team would work together to quickly rectify the backlog and not let one group remain backlogged while another groups rolls full steam ahead with shorter & shorter payout times.
koprano
Jan 3 2006, 04:12 PM
looks like there are about 9000 payouts a day to process
I will be glad to get my gold from 25th as this will be the sold to buy stormpay credits
No more egold upgrades for me.
mjand2345
Jan 3 2006, 04:13 PM
QUOTE(Tarzan @ Jan 4 2006, 08:02 AM)
E-gold was down for a few days last months - Yes, I agree with this and egold caused a major backlog.
plus there are some holidays as well, so there will be definitely some backlogs for e-gold payments - Nope, have to disagree with you on this one. Yes there were some holiday days included this month. But why should the holiday only affect e-gold payments? If the holiday was a factor then both e-gold & stormpay payments should have been affected. However, SP payments have not been affected and are being paid with 4 business days as plenty of people received payment for Dec 27th expirations today.
The number of staff remains unchanged and yet there are backlogs to settle, so it is only logical that e-gold payment is a little slow - Have to disagree with this one also. If there is backlog, I would think the team would work together to quickly rectify the backlog and not let one group remain backlogged while another groups rolls full steam ahead with shorter & shorter payout times. [right][snapback]771968[/snapback][/right]
First of all for b) as I said it is plus the holidays, so what I meant was, the e-gold downtime AND the holidays together compounded the e-gold backlogs. The holidays along will not create such a enormous backlogs, as 12dp will have made prior preparations for the holidays, ao the holidays alone should NOT have create an enormous backlogs.
And for c) I have to totally disagree, if they moved people from one side to the other to settle the backlog, then obviously, SP will slow down, then members from this side will start complaining and it will have people wagging their tongues, saying, "Oh no! Now even SP is slowing down! 12dp must be facing a problem." Is that what you want?
And the last reason is mentioned earlier in the post, as 12dp probably does not want to maintain too much e-gold in their account, due to hackers problem, and insecurity of the e-gold site.
Hope that will shed some light on you
ilham87
Jan 3 2006, 04:14 PM
got my payout this morning..to egold
id: 302xxx
will reinvest.
Bilboca
Jan 3 2006, 04:15 PM
QUOTE(koprano @ Jan 3 2006, 07:12 PM)
looks like there are about 9000 payouts a day to process
I will be glad to get my gold from 25th as this will be the sold to buy stormpay credits
No more egold upgrades for me. [right][snapback]772021[/snapback][/right]
We heard you. There's no need to repeat yourself
espionage
Jan 3 2006, 04:20 PM
12DP is playing cocky by now......
mjand2345
Jan 3 2006, 04:20 PM
Not trying to start any arguments here. But just trying to let everyone see that
there is a logical reason behind every move of a professional team, like 12dp.
I may be wrong, but since I am in, I prefer to think in their perpective and how I
will have handle and foresee situations in the same manner. Just try to think
rationally.
pooaro
Jan 3 2006, 04:27 PM
Just a question.....
Can i surf for my hubby's account from same computer i surf my account? Just for one day...
gonsaigon
Jan 3 2006, 04:28 PM
If I was 12dp Admin, and, I was looking to make some profit from investment, to assist the program, and I could see gold rising like a rocket.
I would probably slow e-gold payments down a little, still stay within terms, and make some money for my reserve fund. Familiar?
Pete
Tarzan
Jan 3 2006, 04:30 PM
QUOTE(mjand2345 @ Jan 3 2006, 06:13 PM)
And for c) I have to totally disagree, if they moved people from one side to the other to settle the backlog, then obviously, SP will slow down, then members from this side will start complaining and it will have people wagging their tongues, saying, "Oh no! Now even SP is slowing down! 12dp must be facing a problem." Is that what you want?
And the last reason is mentioned earlier in the post, as 12dp probably does not want to maintain too much e-gold in their account, due to hackers problem, and insecurity of the e-gold site.
Hope that will shed some light on you [right][snapback]772026[/snapback][/right]
Thank you for proving my point for me on "c". If they took the time to tackle the backlog of egold, WHY would SP members start complaining and wagging their tongues? If the SP payouts dropped from 4 business days to 6 or 7 why should SP members complain? They would still be paid within the 7 business day TOS agreement.
I would rather see no big gaps between any of the processors. If e-gold is backlogged, then layoff the SP payments and if SP is backlogged then layoff the e-gold payments so that both processors are averaging somewhat the same payout time as long as it doesn't go over the TOS.
UNC
Jan 3 2006, 04:31 PM
Waiting for 12/24 308608 hopefully tomorrow..
koprano
Jan 3 2006, 04:31 PM
Sounds good logic there
It also "forces peoples mind " to switch to stormpay.
Storm 5 days eg 10 days
hmm
It looks like I may get my egold for dec 25 on the same day i get my stormpay exp for 31st.
JhK
Jan 3 2006, 04:34 PM
QUOTE(koprano @ Jan 4 2006, 11:31 AM)
Sounds good logic there
It also "forces peoples mind " to switch to stormpay.
Storm 5 days eg 10 days
hmm
It looks like I may get my egold for dec 25 on the same day i get my stormpay exp for 31st. [right][snapback]772123[/snapback][/right]
they got me there im switching to SP
cook
Jan 3 2006, 04:37 PM
i'm switching to SP too
ravensbj
Jan 3 2006, 04:39 PM
QUOTE(mjand2345 @ Jan 4 2006, 01:13 AM)
First of all for b) as I said it is plus the holidays, so what I meant was, the e-gold downtime AND the holidays together compounded the e-gold backlogs. The holidays along will not create such a enormous backlogs, as 12dp will have made prior preparations for the holidays, ao the holidays alone should NOT have create an enormous backlogs.
[right][snapback]772026[/snapback][/right]
This is a cop out as i have already posted. They worked on all holidays paying SP and getting it further ahead of egold. SP payments were reported being made as late as 11pm new years eve. No one expected them to work that day BUT they chose to. So dont blame official none working days its pure BS. Why work on a holiday and get SP even further ahead when they should have used that time to catch egold up from the problems that were caused by egold being down.
As for moving in funds to pay whats due yes I agree thats the way to work. However they know how much they need for whats due for the day so they should move sufficient to cover it. So that excuse is another crock of crap.
Its time the smug SP members stopped thinking about them selves by not giving a crap about the situation egold members find them selves in.
adendum Just to make it clear My only complaint is as stated above. moving SP further ahead with no attempt to catch egold up to put it plainly. Based on the reported payout id's I should get mine some time today. its a 305xxx and that will be withing the tos.
notlohreg
Jan 3 2006, 04:40 PM
I've seen posts in another forum of people who've been paid to E-gold for 23/12 expiry......
cook
Jan 3 2006, 04:41 PM
QUOTE(notlohreg @ Jan 3 2006, 05:40 PM)
I've seen posts in another forum of people who've been paid to E-gold for 23/12 expiry...... [right][snapback]772175[/snapback][/right]
really ?
Harbinger
Jan 3 2006, 04:41 PM
QUOTE(pooaro @ Jan 4 2006, 12:27 AM)
Just a question.....
Can i surf for my hubby's account from same computer i surf my account? Just for one day... [right][snapback]772102[/snapback][/right]
Personally I wouldn't advise it but the Administration have stated before that occasionally surfing 2 accounts from the same computer is acceptable (occasionally being no more than 1 or 2 days of the 12 days surfing)
Harbinger
pooaro
Jan 3 2006, 04:45 PM
QUOTE(Harbinger @ Jan 4 2006, 06:11 AM)
Personally I wouldn't advise it but the Administration have stated before that occasionally surfing 2 accounts from the same computer is acceptable (occasionally being no more than 1 or 2 days of the 12 days surfing)
This is a cop out as i have already posted. They worked on all holidays paying SP and getting it further ahead of egold. SP payments were reported being made as late as 11pm new years eve. No one expected them to work that day BUT they chose to. So dont blame official none working days its pure BS. Why work on a holiday and get SP even further ahead when they should have used that time to catch egold up from the problems that were caused by egold being down.
As for moving in funds to pay whats due yes I agree thats the way to work. However they know how much they need for whats due for the day so they should move sufficient to cover it. So that excuse is another crock of crap.
Its time the smug SP members stopped thinking about them selves by not giving a crap about the situation egold members find them selves in. [right][snapback]772167[/snapback][/right]
OT Ravensbj did you get my PM
ravensbj
Jan 3 2006, 04:54 PM
QUOTE(Elycia @ Jan 4 2006, 01:51 AM)
OT Ravensbj did you get my PM [right][snapback]772219[/snapback][/right]
yes delt with
Elycia
Jan 3 2006, 04:54 PM
QUOTE(ravensbj @ Jan 3 2006, 07:54 PM)
yes delt with [right][snapback]772233[/snapback][/right]
Thank you very much!!
jyue
Jan 3 2006, 05:05 PM
QUOTE(koprano @ Jan 3 2006, 04:31 PM)
Sounds good logic there
It also "forces peoples mind " to switch to stormpay.
Storm 5 days eg 10 days
hmm
It looks like I may get my egold for dec 25 on the same day i get my stormpay exp for 31st. [right][snapback]772123[/snapback][/right]
I am switching to sp too,but still 1pending and 2 upgrade packs in eg now.
~jyue~
teejay
Jan 3 2006, 05:07 PM
QUOTE(ilham87 @ Jan 3 2006, 08:14 PM)
got my payout this morning..to egold
id: 302xxx
will reinvest. [right][snapback]772030[/snapback][/right]
Mine is coming up! 305xxx.
celine dion
Jan 3 2006, 05:12 PM
got paid 22-12
mjand2345
Jan 3 2006, 05:14 PM
QUOTE(Tarzan @ Jan 4 2006, 08:30 AM)
Thank you for proving my point for me on "c". If they took the time to tackle the backlog of egold, WHY would SP members start complaining and wagging their tongues? If the SP payouts dropped from 4 business days to 6 or 7 why should SP members complain? They would still be paid within the 7 business day TOS agreement.
I would rather see no big gaps between any of the processors. If e-gold is backlogged, then layoff the SP payments and if SP is backlogged then layoff the e-gold payments so that both processors are averaging somewhat the same payout time as long as it doesn't go over the TOS. [right][snapback]772117[/snapback][/right]
Why thank me? Sorry for taking this long to reply. My computer hanged after I typed the reply and I have to do all over again! Well, i will try to keep this short. Let's assume the payment for SP done today is for expired 12/22, and you said it is ok to move staff to help the e-gold backlogs, ok, let's do that! Then the next day, the payment for SP done may still be at 12/22, because you already move staff over to help e-gold. Then the 3rd day, and the payment for SP is still at 12/22, what do you think members using SP will be thinking? If you said they won't say anything, it is ok to help get e-gold member to get their backlogs clear, then you are already lying to yourself. Because you ARE already making noise now! People will only look at their own end of the situation, they can't be bothered with others! So if SP start slowing down, and e-gold start moving faster, the complain will then come from the SP end now! Do you understand now?
Another reason is probably because the number of members using e-gold much higher than SP, because of the SP fees earlier on. So can you imagine the enormous backlog created?
Let's try to more matured, since we are all in this already. Making noise and complaining is not going to change anything, it is not as if 12dp admin comes here. By making noise at the slightest of instances, you are hurting fellow members confidences here. So if one day if 12dp does fail, you will have a hand in it. Is that what you want?
Be more rational and analyse the situation throughly. Don't start making noise just because things are not so much in you favor. You still will be paid. Eventually, that's what we all want and it is just a matter of a couple of days more, isn't it?
mkosung
Jan 3 2006, 05:19 PM
when 12dp annouced that SP is now their prefered payment processor, it is a known fact that ppl who use this processor will gain better service & payout time.
I have no objection on this. 12dp is trying to protect their members. You guys just do not understand. With 10 business days, 12dp will be able to thoroughly check through all accounts whcih includes referal details so that they know the account is genuine and is not created by cheaters that do not obey the strict 12dp rules. if a cheater can have 10x 12dp accounts, the cheater can easily create 10x EG account. and with each earning 12% commision is cheating the system. this is not RIGHT!
With SP, it is harder to do this cos you need to be verified and netiba.
12dp currently is still accepting EG, no doubt about it. but prepare to be penalized with the 10 business days wait. If you can't handle that, then switch to SP.
If there are any cheaters in the system now, they will be wetting their pants off due to this new rule. You never know, ppl who is complaining about the 10 business days wait could be cheaters in the system, so beware of what you post. hehehe.......
JhK
Jan 3 2006, 05:20 PM
QUOTE(teejay @ Jan 4 2006, 12:07 PM)
Mine is coming up! 305xxx. [right][snapback]772305[/snapback][/right]
mine is b4 urs 304xxx
mkosung
Jan 3 2006, 05:20 PM
QUOTE(teejay @ Jan 4 2006, 09:07 AM)
Mine is coming up! 305xxx. [right][snapback]772305[/snapback][/right]
me also waiting for 305XXX
mjand2345
Jan 3 2006, 05:23 PM
QUOTE(mkosung @ Jan 4 2006, 09:19 AM)
when 12dp annouced that SP is now their prefered payment processor, it is a known fact that ppl who use this processor will gain better service & payout time.
I have no objection on this. 12dp is trying to protect their members. You guys just do not understand. With 10 business days, 12dp will be able to thoroughly check through all accounts whcih includes referal details so that they know the account is genuine and is not created by cheaters that do not obey the strict 12dp rules. if a cheater can have 10x 12dp accounts, the cheater can easily create 10x EG account. and with each earning 12% commision is cheating the system. this is not RIGHT!
With SP, it is harder to do this cos you need to be verified and netiba.
12dp currently is still accepting EG, no doubt about it. but prepare to be penalized with the 10 business days wait. If you can't handle that, then switch to SP.
If there are any cheaters in the system now, they will be wetting their pants off due to this new rule. You never know, ppl who is complaining about the 10 business days wait could be cheaters in the system, so beware of what you post. hehehe....... [right][snapback]772358[/snapback][/right]
It is good to know someone who thinks alike. More matured and rational. Hi mkosung! Nice to meet you!
hunytree
Jan 3 2006, 05:25 PM
received 301xxxx
mkosung
Jan 3 2006, 05:27 PM
QUOTE(mjand2345 @ Jan 4 2006, 09:23 AM)
It is good to know someone who thinks alike. More matured and rational. Hi mkosung! Nice to meet you! [right][snapback]772375[/snapback][/right]
nice to meet you too!
richville
Jan 3 2006, 05:28 PM
I am sick and tired of all these complaints about some payments being faster than others. The fact is whether it is 10 days with egold or 7 days with stormpay they are both within the TOS of the program. I'm a member of another program that sent out an email to its members stating that anyone that asks about their payouts before they are due according to their TOS will have all their upgrades deleted. I think Charis might want to do the same and I wouldn't blame her.
By the way, before you start calling me a smug SP member, I have a fairly large payout pending now and it's an egold upgrade.
johnq
Jan 3 2006, 05:29 PM
QUOTE(mkel @ Jan 3 2006, 04:38 PM)
Tarzan what is the ID for your Dec 23 payment that you are waiting for mine is Dec 24 ID# 310609 just like to know an approx number from Dec 23 and Dec 24
Mary [right][snapback]771851[/snapback][/right]
My 315xxx is from 12-24 if that helps at all!
Successs
Jan 3 2006, 05:30 PM
I noticed that thier terms was changed. 2 months ago they guaranteed payout and refund. But now they don't. What do you think?
ComPlete
Jan 3 2006, 05:33 PM
QUOTE(Successs @ Jan 3 2006, 05:30 PM)
I noticed that thier terms was changed. 2 months ago they guaranteed payout and refund. But now they don't. What do you think? [right][snapback]772407[/snapback][/right]
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good!!
they got me there im switching to SP 
