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QUOTE(Kakashi @ Dec 11 2005, 12:15 AM) well my upgrade that expired on the 2nd was paid out on the 12th this month but it isnt fair to say 12dp is now taking 10 days to payout cause of the egold slowdown problem [right][snapback]659954[/snapback][/right] how can you be paid on the 12th for your expiry on the 2nd when today is only the 11th?  Even if it was paid on the 12th. That would still be in under 7 business days. QUOTE(nomoney @ Dec 10 2005, 07:04 AM) Have a question to ask for those of you of offer offers to your downlines how do you know they E-Gold acc when they upgrade? Do you ask them for it or there is someways to find out? Hope to get some help on this. Thanks in advance. [right][snapback]656222[/snapback][/right] I contact my referrals via e-mail when they signup under me, I do this with a Standard e-mail I made in which I request their Payment Processor account as well as explaining how my offer works. I keep all of the e-gold account numbers and StormPay addresses in a big MS-Word document which I refer to when it comes time to pay them. I then use this information to prepare Mass Pay batch files to pay everyone in one fail swoop. I also keep track of all my downlines upgrades in a Spreadsheet so that I can refer to it when I'm making up my payout lists. I only wish I could combine the 2 and get it to automatically generate my Mass Pay files  Harbinger
finally got my payout for 1/12.. all becoz of the stupuid egold..
hope i can get my 208xxx upgrade to egold tmr. :prays:
QUOTE(Harbinger @ Dec 11 2005, 11:25 AM) I contact my referrals via e-mail when they signup under me, I do this with a Standard e-mail I made in which I request their Payment Processor account as well as explaining how my offer works. I keep all of the e-gold account numbers and StormPay addresses in a big MS-Word document which I refer to when it comes time to pay them. I then use this information to prepare Mass Pay batch files to pay everyone in one fail swoop. I also keep track of all my downlines upgrades in a Spreadsheet so that I can refer to it when I'm making up my payout lists. I only wish I could combine the 2 and get it to automatically generate my Mass Pay files Harbinger [right][snapback]660112[/snapback][/right] Nice Harbinger! I work the same.... so I wish you good luck bro!  Stelistu
don't worry 12dp always paying
Smooth surfing and more ref-coms
 Just bought some more tickets, can't wait to win the car 
QUOTE(menztoo @ Dec 11 2005, 09:06 AM) Payment received for 02/12 expiry! Way to Go!!!  [right][snapback]660061[/snapback][/right] whats your payment ID? mine is 2021xx and still pending 
12dp never late to pay me. always on time! keep up the good work charis
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Stelistu,
I'm actually closing my offer for new signups at the end of this year as with 165 direct referrals just keeping everything up to date just takes up so much of my time it's unbelieveable. I still haven't posted images of my last payout run as it's so much work to take screenshots of 3 complete pages of e-gold payments + StormPay payments too, edit them to remove Batch Numbers / Account Numbers and finally watermark the images to stop people stealing them to claim they had made the payments. (and yes, this has happened before.) Don't get me wrong the rewards for my efforts are amazing, my downline helped me achieve my goal of maxxing out my level here and I hope I have helped them to achieve their goals. I will of course be honouring my agreement with all of my current referrals and anyone signing up before the end of this year for the entire lifetime of 12dailyPro and will continue to make payments much as I have since I started this offer way back in August. My promotion of 12dailyPro certainly won't stop after the end of this year it will just be less beneficial to anyone signing up under me at that time. I wish you luck with your own return of commissions offer, I hope you will be as successful as I have been in gaining referrals. Regards Harbinger
Very lumpy surf today, not even a little bit sXXXth, I am so tired after surfing, I will have to have a nice lie down.
Pete
complete surfing
QUOTE(Harbinger @ Dec 11 2005, 12:18 PM) Stelistu, I'm actually closing my offer for new signups at the end of this year as with 165 direct referrals just keeping everything up to date just takes up so much of my time it's unbelieveable. I still haven't posted images of my last payout run as it's so much work to take screenshots of 3 complete pages of e-gold payments + StormPay payments too, edit them to remove Batch Numbers / Account Numbers and finally watermark the images to stop people stealing them to claim they had made the payments. (and yes, this has happened before.) Don't get me wrong the rewards for my efforts are amazing, my downline helped me achieve my goal of maxxing out my level here and I hope I have helped them to achieve their goals. I will of course be honouring my agreement with all of my current referrals and anyone signing up before the end of this year for the entire lifetime of 12dailyPro and will continue to make payments much as I have since I started this offer way back in August. My promotion of 12dailyPro certainly won't stop after the end of this year it will just be less beneficial to anyone signing up under me at that time. I wish you luck with your own return of commissions offer, I hope you will be as successful as I have been in gaining referrals. Regards Harbinger [right][snapback]660236[/snapback][/right] Thanks for the reply Harbringer! I totally understand you, because I now have about 47 refferals and it is allready a hard work to keep up the pace, to pay on time and to be daily for them and answer their mails with many different questions.... I certainly can extend myself up to 100 refferals as I calculated and keeping up the pace, but after that limit I am also considering to change my offer for those who will join under me after I go over the 100 refferals mark...but we will live and see what is happening! I just say thank you to all my refferals , to 12dp, and 2 the wonderfull mmg community! P.S.: I am very happy that I managed to go over the e-gols problems, and that I did all reff com back payouts for those pending on the 2dec expiry. folks pls check your e-golds
Paid for 12-2 expiry
total page 1234 .. what a nice number lol
i think 12dp admin team is trying to rush back the payment and make the payment back on track...
 I got paid for my 3rd expiry 8hours ago, its out of my expectation since i thought 1st dec and 2nd will be in priority, anyway, good job 12dp. luv ya  
can anyone who got paid to e gold for 2 and 3 dec exp, post the payment ID that found in history page in here?
 mine payment id is 2021xx and still pending, i am looking forward to reinvest, a bit concern if i can reinvest today.
QUOTE(lamode @ Dec 11 2005, 07:28 PM) can anyone who got paid to e gold for 2 and 3 dec exp, post the payment ID that found in history page in here? mine payment id is 2021xx and still pending, i am looking forward to reinvest, a bit concern if i can reinvest today.[right][snapback]660370[/snapback][/right] 3 dec 2014xx QUOTE(lamode @ Dec 11 2005, 04:58 PM) can anyone who got paid to e gold for 2 and 3 dec exp, post the payment ID that found in history page in here? mine payment id is 2021xx and still pending, i am looking forward to reinvest, a bit concern if i can reinvest today.[right][snapback]660370[/snapback][/right] same here....looking forward to upgrade today 
Also waiting to get paid on an expiry from the 3rd
Waiting on 12/04 2087** My first payout in this program.
QUOTE(mia @ Dec 11 2005, 05:23 PM) Waiting on 12/04 2087** My first payout in this program. [right][snapback]660422[/snapback][/right] get ready for sweet surprise my friend. happy money making
I can or No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hi guys i can use 2 accont 12dp from 1 PC or NOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLZ  
QUOTE(anas55 @ Dec 11 2005, 08:14 AM) I can or No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hi guys i can use 2 accont 12dp from 1 PC or NOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLZ [right][snapback]660476[/snapback][/right] NOOOOOOOOOO !!!
lol, its obviously no i guess..
I was paid yesterday for a Dec 1st expiry.....
admin seems to be catching up with payments now. and I upgraded again today......  I think I'll buy some more charity clicks.....
QUOTE(alex_a28 @ Dec 11 2005, 05:11 PM) Here is something for ya'll to read: http://talkgold.com/forum/r48174-.html [right][snapback]660396[/snapback][/right] Oh god. just gone thro fully. It took so much of time for me to read that completely, how stupid is this guy PN? 
QUOTE(anas55 @ Dec 11 2005, 08:14 PM) I can or No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hi guys i can use 2 accont 12dp from 1 PC or NOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLZ [right][snapback]660476[/snapback][/right] No ..by the way 12dp only allowed 1 account per person .. seem that you break the rules hehehe QUOTE(edatamerge @ Dec 11 2005, 08:33 PM) Oh god. just gone thro fully. It took so much of time for me to read that completely, how stupid is this guy PN? [right][snapback]660529[/snapback][/right] In that conversation,.. he already show taht he's so stupid lol QUOTE(anas55 @ Dec 11 2005, 05:44 PM) I can or No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hi guys i can use 2 accont 12dp from 1 PC or NOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLZ [right][snapback]660476[/snapback][/right] sent a ticket to the admin to request what can be dont about it........... all the best dude!
so i see everything is ok with 12DP
Smooth surf today. Hope to get my payout by tomorrow hee hee. Time to fill my EG acc with some $$$.
QUOTE(alex_a28 @ Dec 11 2005, 11:41 AM) Here is something for ya'll to read: ok, i finally gone throught it and its worth to read. Charis did admit that the main source of income is from member fees. http://talkgold.com/forum/r48174-.html [right][snapback]660396[/snapback][/right] 
w00t go Charis paid me again my 3rd payment
QUOTE(lamode @ Dec 11 2005, 05:05 AM) ok, i finally gone throught it and its worth to read. Charis did admit that the main source of income is from member fees. [right][snapback]660624[/snapback][/right] ok so wat do u want us to do?? declare it a scam?? 
QUOTE(lamode @ Dec 11 2005, 08:28 PM) can anyone who got paid to e gold for 2 and 3 dec exp, post the payment ID that found in history page in here? mine payment id is 2021xx and still pending, i am looking forward to reinvest, a bit concern if i can reinvest today.[right][snapback]660370[/snapback][/right] paid #201401 3dec, eg QUOTE(lamode @ Dec 11 2005, 05:05 AM) ok, i finally gone throught it and its worth to read. Charis did admit that the main source of income is from member fees. [right][snapback]660624[/snapback][/right] nothing to be suprised for member fees to be main source right? members fee are still money. all they need to do is earn 44% with the fees. i have no worries that member fees is the main source of income as long as they can use it to earn money.
i dont think she needs to prove herself further !!!!
QUOTE(lamode @ Dec 11 2005, 05:05 AM) ok, i finally gone throught it and its worth to read. Charis did admit that the main source of income is from member fees. [right][snapback]660624[/snapback][/right] Just wondering what were you expecting to hear/read ? Did you really need talkgold to get it into your head? Or maybe you thought she has time to trade at marketiva?LOL Enjoy the ride and make the most out of it while it lasts. There is no such thing can offer that return investing..not to mention time frames money stays with the program is not that long when they have huge long list of payments to do daily. I should add tho that if you do have moral problem with that kind of scheme then bail out and don't play it. Each has their own freedom of choice
I just got paid!
 Reinvesting again!
QUOTE(lamode @ Dec 11 2005, 09:05 AM) ok, i finally gone throught it and its worth to read. Charis did admit that the main source of income is from member fees. [right][snapback]660624[/snapback][/right] How many believe this? Didn't you know Ponzi has been impersonating Charis and has about 10 different usernames over the past few months? There are a lot of things posted by "Charis" out there that are not from Charis. Do you honestly think she would call him "dear"  In other words what I'm trying to say is that is most likeley a fake charis and not the 12DP admin.
QUOTE(Lisa111 @ Dec 11 2005, 07:29 AM) How many believe this? Didn't you know Ponzi has been impersonating Charis and has about 10 different usernames over the past few months? There are a lot of things posted by "Charis" out there that are not from Charis. Do you honestly think she would call him "dear" In other words what I'm trying to say is that is most likeley a fake charis and not the 12DP admin. [right][snapback]661068[/snapback][/right] As much as i like 12dp and this is good for me,and regardless of whom pretending to be charis for real or not..this should be posted...12dp relies on new spends no matter what anyone would say,for good or bad. Whether to participate or not is indvidual issue but this should be obvious by now.this refers not just to 12dp but to most of the programs posted on mmg in general.
Yes, I can't beleive people still hold on to the belief that this could be something different. Its a ponzi. Let go of all hopes that its not. Everyone in this thread should know this by now.
QUOTE(Pipster @ Dec 11 2005, 11:33 AM) As much as i like 12dp and this is good for me,and regardless of whom pretending to be charis for real or not..this should be posted...12dp relies on new spends no matter what anyone would say,for good or bad. Whether to participate or not is indvidual issue but this should be obvious by now.this refers not just to 12dp but to most of the programs posted on mmg in general. [right][snapback]661081[/snapback][/right] I'm sure partially on spends, but not necessarily "new" ones. Charis (the real admin) has said several times they could halt membership and still function. I know they take in money from advertizing and probably from other autosurfs. Even just with members re upgrading continually they could run for awhile without new spends from new members. My only question would be what would happen when all those members maxed out? Reading that Talkgold forum is funny because you have people speculating that Charis made up Ponzi N and they are the same person!  Wow! Like Charis has the time to waste hours and hours each day posing as Ponzi Nemesis on all the forums. He is ALWAYS there somewhere on some forum. The only way that would be possible is if Charis was an alien that could bilocate and be two separate people at the same time 
Lisa111 - you need to use the forum logon details to get into the chat room, this is the real charis from 12dp, else this person wont be able to login ...
Pipster - i do know its ponzi style program, but i just point it out for poeple that think and believe they are doing real investment to gain the 44% profit to pay members, infact they would have needed to gain more than 44% if you calculate the ref commision aswell. btw, marketiva suck i wouldnt use them if i were to invest big, probably look into fxcm or fxdd
QUOTE(Pipster @ Dec 11 2005, 06:40 AM) Just wondering what were you expecting to hear/read ? Did you really need talkgold to get it into your head? Or maybe you thought she has time to trade at marketiva?LOL Enjoy the ride and make the most out of it while it lasts. There is no such thing can offer that return investing..not to mention time frames money stays with the program is not that long when they have huge long list of payments to do daily. I should add tho that if you do have moral problem with that kind of scheme then bail out and don't play it. Each has their own freedom of choice [right][snapback]660941[/snapback][/right] ya pipster u r right,and here i would like to add more,what is the fun if main source of income is new subscriptions/investments,members are not making money here by involvement in criminal activities,u show your sites to other people which is basically advertising,and u get paid for your web promotion investments,then so what if it is dependent upon new subcriptions,when people r getting paid daily due to honesty and integrity of the system then what is the need to discuss these ponzi kind of things?and according to latest stats by a review site more than 10millions dollar is being invested daily in 12dailypro from egold alone and i dont know how much money is invested from stormpay also,so that reflects people's faith and confidance in this wonderful opportunity! review source http://9planetreviews.com/team/deardr/blog.shtml QUOTE(R33z @ Dec 11 2005, 01:35 PM) No ..by the way 12dp only allowed 1 account per person .. seem that you break the rules hehehe [right][snapback]660532[/snapback][/right] From the TOS: We want to insure you all that we will do everything in our power insure that those who are attempting to circumvent our terms as stated above WILL be dealt with. We are not talking about, for example, husbands and wives or co-workers or students sharing a computer or confusion about IP addresses. We are talking about deliberate and extensive evidence of cheating within the program, which takes into account MANY more factors than just IP addresses. We are talking about BLATANT cheating. Where we research the system and find members blatantly attempting to cheat the it, we WILL take action and enforce our terms of service. It would appear that 2 people CAN use one Computer/IP address QUOTE(lamode @ Dec 12 2005, 12:43 AM) Lisa111 - you need to use the forum logon details to get into the chat room, this is the real charis from 12dp, else this person wont be able to login ... Pipster - i do know its ponzi style program, but i just point it out for poeple that think and believe they are doing real investment to gain the 44% profit to pay members, infact they would have needed to gain more than 44% if you calculate the ref commision aswell. btw, marketiva suck i wouldnt use them if i were to invest big, probably look into fxcm or fxdd [right][snapback]661105[/snapback][/right]  FXCM better 
QUOTE(lamode @ Dec 11 2005, 07:43 AM) Lisa111 - you need to use the forum logon details to get into the chat room, this is the real charis from 12dp, else this person wont be able to login ... Pipster - i do know its ponzi style program, but i just point it out for poeple that think and believe they are doing real investment to gain the 44% profit to pay members, infact they would have needed to gain more than 44% if you calculate the ref commision aswell. btw, marketiva suck i wouldnt use them if i were to invest big, probably look into fxcm or fxdd [right][snapback]661105[/snapback][/right] charis is in chat? where? |