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mariom123456
tell me only country extension of 12dp.
Bilboca
QUOTE(mariom123456 @ Nov 30 2005, 02:53 PM)
tell me only country extension of 12dp.
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I don't know what is their phone number but if you're talking about the same problem you told us yesterday, it's best to contact e-gold as it's not 12dp's fault if your e-gold account has limitation.
CashMeIn
QUOTE(mariom123456 @ Nov 30 2005, 02:53 PM)
tell me only country extension of 12dp.
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USA country extension is "1" .
50cent
Phone: 704-414-6621
Fax: 704-414-6622

http://www.12dailypro.com/contactinfo.htm
tysin
QUOTE(CashMeIn @ Nov 30 2005, 08:50 PM)
That's what I'm hoping. 

Since I'm maxed out here, I want to upgrade
this payment into another autosurf before I do
today's surfing there. If I can upgrade today (last
day of the month), then I 'll receive more
payment on the Dec 15 payday for that
auto-surf (instead of having to wait until
January 15 for today's surfing payment).
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yeah im doing the 3x3x3 and i need this payment today cause an upgrade expired today... usually they arrive at about 9pm 12dp server time... 3-4am here!! Its gonna be a long night...
tommyc
QUOTE(mariom123456 @ Nov 30 2005, 11:46 AM)
Anyone kno telphone number of 12dp? i hve problem and want speak with them.

also extension country as well
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It's located on the lower right hand side of their site. Just look for Contact Information...

Or here: http://www.12dailypro.com/contactinfo.htm
natedawg
okay what is the delay in upgrading my acct.. i really don't get it? ain;t it suppose to be automatic.. i sent 30.00 in egold and i still haven;t been upgraded..

is it because i haven't surf the 12 sites yet? i didn't want to because i don't want to end up being paid as a free memeber .. maybe thats it?


somebody help.. i'm going to send them one more ticket before i go to work... anyone else having this problem..
$ B-Rad $
It says on their contact page "If you need to contact us via mail, please call and we will provide you a mailing address." That would be cool if someone would call and ask for their mailing address just so we can see where they are located.
lukek
I had a mod give me the address before and I verified it, it is in a commerical plaza

luke
Student
Question regarding the home page:

QUOTE
In order to insure the long term success and sustainability of 12daily Pro: 1) member upgrade earnings are financed by multiple income streams including advertising, and off-site investments


Has there ever been anything else mentioned from admin. of these off-site investments?
Bilboca
QUOTE(Student @ Nov 30 2005, 03:37 PM)
Question regarding the home page:
Has there ever been anything else mentioned from admin. of these off-site investments?
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If my memory serve me right, they mentionned they're investing a part of the money in real estate. Not sure where i got this info though.
CashMeIn
QUOTE(Student @ Nov 30 2005, 03:37 PM)
Question regarding the home page:
Has there ever been anything else mentioned from admin. of these off-site investments?
[right][snapback]617508[/snapback][/right]


...Only that they are in a select few other autosurfs. Other than that
they are very tight-lipped about their outside investments because
they say they don't want to give away their business model.

Personally, I don't care about how they make their money. They
can sell manure to dairy farms, but I've been getting paid for
almost 6 months on-time every time.

This is the only program that has paid me any kind of substantial
profit.
Daryl44
Smooth surf as always
Bilboca
QUOTE(CashMeIn @ Nov 30 2005, 03:49 PM)
They can sell manure to dairy farms, but I've been getting paid for
almost 6 months on-time every time.
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rofl4.gif rofl4.gif

I agree that they can do whatever they want with our money as long as they pay. I'm fine with that.
lukek
Same here, as long as the payouts keep on coming do whatever they want

luke
50cent
Paid! w00t2.gif ..my problem fixed biggrin.gif
Thank you 12dp thumbup(1).gif
lukek
What was your batch id?

luke
12dp - #168002 pending
actfree
QUOTE(Bilboca @ Nov 30 2005, 02:57 PM)
rofl4.gif  rofl4.gif

I agree that they can do whatever they want with our money as long as they pay. I'm fine with that.
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broach
QUOTE(Bilboca @ Nov 30 2005, 04:57 PM)
rofl4.gif  rofl4.gif

I agree that they can do whatever they want with our money as long as they pay. I'm fine with that.
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I would care, just because you are paid does not mean it is o.k. besides is it legal to invest other people's money without disclosing where it goes?
CashMeIn
QUOTE(broach @ Nov 30 2005, 04:55 PM)
I would care, just because you are paid does not mean it is o.k. besides is it legal to invest other people's money without disclosing where it goes?
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Well OK, I wouldn't want them investing in some Colombian drug cartel,
but then I really don't think Charis is the type to invest in something
like that. Let's just say that I have complete confidence that her investments
are safe and "above board".
broach
QUOTE(CashMeIn @ Nov 30 2005, 06:00 PM)
Well OK, I wouldn't want them investing in some Colombian drug cartel,
but then I really don't think Charis is the type to invest in something
like that.  Let's just say that I have complete confidence that her investments
are safe and "above board".
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True, I don't think that she is investing in anything bad I just wonder about any legal issues as far as being secretive about where the money goes. I am not a lawyer or an expert of the law I just have always had the understaning that you have dislose where you are investing other people's money.
Bilboca
QUOTE(broach @ Nov 30 2005, 04:55 PM)
I would care, just because you are paid does not mean it is o.k. besides is it legal to invest other people's money without disclosing where it goes?
[right][snapback]617778[/snapback][/right]


I should have mentionned as long as it's legal, i don't care.

But as cashmein has mentionned, i don't think that Charis is the type of people to invest in something illegal but who know. We know almost nothing about their offline investment. For now on, it's just a matter of trusting her and on this side, i have complete confidence.
Pipster
QUOTE(lukek @ Nov 30 2005, 01:16 PM)
What was your batch id?

luke
12dp - #168002 pending
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You still have a day or so,maybe 2.
Me waiting on 1650xx from the 24th,maybe tonight.
Pipster
QUOTE(Pipster @ Nov 30 2005, 02:10 PM)
You still have a day or so,maybe 2.
Me waiting on 1650xx from the 24th,maybe tonight.
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As i am typing this got notification of payment rofl4.gif thumbup(1).gif

What a timing..and a big sweet one too smile.gif

24th expiry starting with id #165049.

There is mess payout running right now via SP smile.gif

Pipster
Should add ,still STRONG..4 business days smile.gif
Harbinger
QUOTE(natedawg @ Nov 30 2005, 08:22 PM)
okay what is the delay in upgrading my acct.. i really don't get it? ain;t it suppose to be automatic.. i sent 30.00 in egold and i still haven;t been upgraded..

is it because i haven't surf the 12 sites yet? i didn't want to because i don't want to end up being paid as a free memeber .. maybe thats it?
somebody help.. i'm going to send them one more ticket before i go to work... anyone else having this problem..
[right][snapback]617454[/snapback][/right]


There's no point opening multiple tickets for the same issue, that just means it takes them longer to go through them. Likewise adding a reply to your own ticket will push it back to the end of the queue. Just wait for them to reply to your initial ticket. They have 130,000 members and working their way through all the support tickets can take time.

You won't lose your money or any surfing days because of it, just be patient and they will credit your account manually. I'm sure it's happened to most of us on at least one occasion (myself included) and I'm sure everyone can confirm that if this has happened to them the problem has been resolved.

I know it sucks that your units didn't get applied automatically but these things really do happen occasionallly. Give them the chance to fix it and don't be impatient. They will get to you.

Harbinger
Bilboca
QUOTE(Pipster @ Nov 30 2005, 05:13 PM)
As i am typing this got notification of payment  rofl4.gif  thumbup(1).gif

What a timing..and a big sweet one too smile.gif

24th expiry starting with id #165049.

There is mess payout running right now via SP smile.gif
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Congrats Pipster clapping7.gif

This prog still ROCK!!!!!!
lukek
My friend just got his 12dp payout (#166600) and it was via SP.

luke
broach
QUOTE(Bilboca @ Nov 30 2005, 06:08 PM)
I should have mentionned as long as it's legal, i don't care.

But as cashmein has mentionned, i don't think that Charis is the type of people to invest in something illegal but who know. We know almost nothing about their offline investment. For now on, it's just a matter of trusting her and on this side, i have complete confidence.
[right][snapback]617821[/snapback][/right]

I know, I think Charis is honest and I would like to join. I just would just like to feel confident that 12dp is 100% legal.
Radmax
QUOTE(Bilboca @ Nov 30 2005, 02:08 PM)
I should have mentionned as long as it's legal, i don't care.

But as cashmein has mentionned, i don't think that Charis is the type of people to invest in something illegal but who know. We know almost nothing about their offline investment. For now on, it's just a matter of trusting her and on this side, i have complete confidence.
[right][snapback]617821[/snapback][/right]


You guy's are actually trusting that they are able to generate 56% ROI in like 20 days? shocking.gif
tysin
just got paid for my expiry on 24th too just minutes ago in sp biggrin.gif clapping7.gif post-69220-1110229459.gif thumbup(1).gif yahoo.gif w00t2.gif dance9bh.gif dancing4dh.gif
$ B-Rad $
rofl4.gif
Only way to find out is if we all stop upgrading and see if I get paid doh.gif

But that won't happen.

So I call it ponzi - I'm pretty much done investing here I just pick up my referral commisions. Of course I may always come back.
lukek
QUOTE(Radmax86 @ Nov 30 2005, 05:29 PM)
You guy's are actually trusting that they are able to generate 56% ROI in like 20 days? shocking.gif
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No need to burst anyones bubble ...

luke
Radmax
QUOTE(lukek @ Nov 30 2005, 02:35 PM)
No need to burst anyones bubble ...

luke
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A lot of money is involved here. People clearly need a reality check.

I have no problem with ponzi's, just call a spade a spade.
Pipster
QUOTE($ B-Rad $ @ Nov 30 2005, 02:32 PM)
rofl4.gif 
Only way to find out is if we all stop upgrading and see if I get paid  doh.gif

But that won't happen.

So I call it ponzi - I'm pretty much done investing here I just pick up my referral commisions.  Of course I may always come back.
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You feel proud of it ? thumbdown.gif
lukek
That is true but there hasnt been one sigh yet of a slow down. All 130k that are upgraded have been paid out with 7 b days without a glitch. The test will be what happens after the convetion... Admin said they so like 200 tickets or so, that alone brought them in $18k at $90 a piece...

your advice is well taken, Ive already taken out all my money that came from my earnings and only have profits... sure I dont want to lose the profits but if I lose I wont lose my hard earned money.
luke
lazygirl
QUOTE($ B-Rad $ @ Nov 30 2005, 02:32 PM)
rofl4.gif 
Only way to find out is if we all stop upgrading and see if I get paid  doh.gif

But that won't happen.

So I call it ponzi - I'm pretty much done investing here I just pick up my referral commisions.  Of course I may always come back.
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these type of people annoy me...... they don`t invest but just earn from other peoples commissions...... furious.gif

they should change the rules about this....


waiting on payment to E-Gold for 24th Nov. expiry.......... thumbup(1).gif

has anyone been pad for 24th expiry to E-gold.....??? wave.gif
jump
Been paid many many times. If I could max out here today I would!

dance9bh.gif
Radmax
QUOTE(lukek @ Nov 30 2005, 02:42 PM)
That is  true but there hasnt been one sigh yet of a slow down.  All 130k that are upgraded have been paid out with 7 b days without a glitch.  The test will be what happens after the convetion...  Admin said they so like 200 tickets or so, that alone brought them in $18k at $90 a piece...

your advice is well taken, Ive already taken out all my money that came from my earnings and only have profits... sure I dont want to lose the profits but if I lose I wont lose my hard earned money.
luke
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First off, 18k is peanuts here. Hell, peanut crumbs would be more descriptive.

I didn't say anything about a slow down or how long it will last (My original guess was passed months ago tongue4.gif). I'm just trying to make sure people are treating this as the highly volitile program it is and not a long-term investment program.

Bilboca
QUOTE(Radmax86 @ Nov 30 2005, 05:29 PM)
You guy's are actually trusting that they are able to generate 56% ROI in like 20 days? shocking.gif
[right][snapback]617897[/snapback][/right]


Sure it's risky but the money i invest in, is the money i can afford to lose. harhar.gif
lukek
Im at a stage where im putting away every single dollar I make from 12dp back into my bank account...

luke
mollo
I think not now..
At least for us...........
Stelistu
QUOTE($ B-Rad $ @ Dec 1 2005, 12:32 AM)
rofl4.gif 
Only way to find out is if we all stop upgrading and see if I get paid  doh.gif

But that won't happen.

So I call it ponzi - I'm pretty much done investing here I just pick up my referral commisions.  Of course I may always come back.
[right][snapback]617901[/snapback][/right]


Perhaps you will reconsider this! smile.gif
Radmax
QUOTE(lukek @ Nov 30 2005, 02:56 PM)
Im at a stage where im putting away every single dollar I make from 12dp back into my bank account...

luke
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Thats my current strategy, and it has made me a good chunk of change. Every time i get paid, I roll the same amount back in and keep the 44%. When payment times get a bit longer, I will probably revise that strategy, but who really knows at this point. Thats just my strategy though, people need to do whatever suits their risk management plan best.

If you want to maximize your profit and are comfortable rolling the dice a few times, by all means, go for it.
ancient
The answer is simple, if you have to know everything about this program including the breakfast menu, go somewhere else and dont invest here, if you dont trust the program and admin, then go somewhere else. Its real simple. I have done that in 3 programs.

If it isnt broke then why try to fix it????????????/

KiTTeN
volitile program? you mean volitive or volatile? why do you think it's highly volatile and not long term? it's longing very long....

QUOTE(Radmax86 @ Nov 30 2005, 11:53 PM)
First off, 18k is peanuts here. Hell, peanut crumbs would be more descriptive.

I didn't say anything about a slow down or how long it will last (My original guess was passed months ago tongue4.gif). I'm just trying to make sure people are treating this as the highly volitile program it is and not a long-term investment program.
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Pipster
QUOTE(Bilboca @ Nov 30 2005, 02:54 PM)
Sure it's risky but the money i invest in, is the money i can afford to lose.  harhar.gif
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I believe the majority on MMG at that point can't really lose as they play with profit.

The risk involved with that kind of programs should be well known to the most,as far as new comers go..as long as they are aware of the nature of this game and the risk involved vs the reward and past performance,let them make their own decisions whether this is good to go or not based on their own preferences.

No one should be risking any money required for daily living and expenses here in order to make more even if this seems as a safe bet so far and this refers to any program posted on that forum as a rule regardless of its hisotry and length of successful operation.(blah blah)

The term "investing" here is misleading..spend would be more accurate to use.

Back to this wonderful GAME,waiting to purchase my next upgrade #19 tonight smile.gif
KiTTeN
and i'm thinking there's no any risk until to february convention at least !

i'm thinking so, any thinker like me around?????
manula
Hi to all,

does anybody know why 12DP is set to pay commissions in "7 business days"?

Is there a real technical issue or is it simply a choice of the admin?

Just wondering... Other sites pay commission on the day it's accrued.
If 12DP did the same all members would probably benefit and new investors would also be more inclined to get started, considering the "risk" period is only 12 days.

Also, it would be much easier for people to start a 3x3x3 strategy without needing 9k, but only 6k.

Is there any rumor of Charis changing the paying system?

... Of course the reason why she's not paying commissions on the day could be that she has 21 days to work on our deposit to earn money, not just 12...

Bilboca
QUOTE(KiTTeN @ Nov 30 2005, 06:08 PM)
and i'm thinking there's no any risk until to february convention at least !

i'm thinking so, any thinker like me around?????
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Not risky? youre kidding right?

There's alway an element of risk even if the convention is planned for february. It's a good thing but that mean nothing. Just play on the safe side and if it's still there in february, well most of us will hit the jackpot.
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